Summoning Insight Episode 81: Betting on the Unknown (feat. IWillDominate and GoldenGlue) | The 9s

Summoning Insight returns on The 9s presented by AT&T in partnership with Cloud9!
Join MonteCristo, Thorin, and Locodoco alongside guests GoldenGlue and IWillDominate, who join the show to discuss the results of the League of Legends World Championship play-ins and offer predictions for the group stage. Summoning Insight is the premier League of Legends esports podcast. This episode was filmed on October 10th, 2019.
The 9s: Summoning Insight will be airing throughout Worlds in 2019, so be sure to catch the show live on Cloud9's Twitch channel. The next episode will air at 2 PM PDT / 5 PM EDT on October 14, 2019.
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[@hkiss95]

Cloud 9 literally legendary for getting Thorin heavily involved with worlds

[@Elena-gj6ow]

Thorin having legs is somehow just wrong.

[@titangourmand]

For real it feels really strange

[@ZulousOG]

Theyre not actually his legs, he's got a leg double

[@nasenach]

his pants :O

[@awung11]

FAKE! This is all CGI

[@SukoSeiti]

WTF are you talking about, his legs shows all the time on CS caster desks.

[@RaidsEpicly]

Despite having a high production value show with everyone on location, still no timestamps. Never change

[@cloud9]

It's back! 😱

[@Animegamernerd1]

Just became C9 fan

[@devensamra4510]

Good investment 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@cyrus147]

WTF? its back? wtf?

[@YayLexx]

YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@asvvampire]

@Alec Rast The Organizations name is Cloud9 not Cloud 9. This is not an automated reddit reply bot

[@pierce_grossman]

Oh boy, here we go again... 00:00:00 - fake intro 00:00:34 - whatever 00:00:53 - intro + overview of the show + eventual banter 00:04:14 - Monte's Thombstone analogy 00:06:05 - Phoenix song/video 00:10:00 - Statistics by bing 00:13:10 - Goldenglue IN 00:14:38 - C9 overperforming at worlds narrative 00:21:21 - This year's group draw and its legitimacy 00:26:48 - Most underrated midlaner at worlds by Goldenglue + eventual banter 00:31:21 - Is Faker the best midlaner in this tournament? + Caps' level in relation to Faker 00:37:55 - What's the chance of G2 choking? + obvious shots at TSM 00:40:59 - Power picks for midlane coming into worlds 00:42:34 - Goldenglue's plans for offseason 00:43:45 - C9's hype/highlights(?) video 00:48:38 - The end of break / The Click Debate by Puma 00:49:16 - Which region is the strongest? + discussion about teams from other regions facing each other 00:59:06 - Does NA have a world class team? 01:01:52 - C9's second video 01:04:10 - IWillDominate IN 01:07:34 - Tarzan as a jungler 01:09:57 - Chovy 01:11:20 - Best jungler in the tournament / is the jungle role going to be a decisive factor like solo lanes were in the previous wordls? 01:12:30 - Clid 01:13:40 - SKT's players in relation to GRF and DWG 01:15:35 - Does DWG have any players in the top20? 01:19:28 - Lack of NA (or other) players in Jatt's and Vedius' top20 01:21:33 - Doinb 01:26:15 - Hylissang 01:27:37 - Faker 01:31:11 - Perkz 01:35:40 - What has the most impact on the game in the context of role right now 01:38:40 - Shifting paradigms of supports and adcs / state of support and adc roles 01:49:19 - Which junglers are going to be picked? 01:50:46 - Sleeper picks and possibility of countering/facing perma banned champions 01:55:56 - Assessment of GAM Esports 01:57:00 - TL as a dark horse 02:00:04 - Group predictions 02:00:35 - Group A 02:04:14 - Group B (and possible Lord Bet) 02:11:15 - Group C 02:16:00 - Group D 02:25:33 - C9's roundtable + video 02:30:15 - Lord Bet 02:32:00 - Questions from fans at discord 02:32:55 - Ivern being a ranged champion 02:33:50 - Q to Thorin: how do you feel about Flame's carrer being over? 02:38:28 - UZI's ability to carry in regard to his health problems/injuries 02:44:27 - Why're you guys so nice to Loco today? 02:45:20 - Do you think C9 can perform better against G2 and GRF with Deftly instead Sneaky? 02:47:02 - How do you think IG is going to do this year? 02:52:22 - How do you justify/define greatness? 02:56:00 - Which criteria would you use in your top20 list? 03:00:20 - Outro 03:01:50 - Bonus Lord Thorin

[@alexanderb898]

Thank you

[@fernandossmm]

You're doing the Lord's work

[@Puman1341]

ty boi

[@sirjones_]

holy sh*t, thanks A LOT

[@anurag1990123]

holy shit that is fking long

[@Pyridius]

I miss MonteCristo and League of Legends related content so I'm going to be soaking in as much of this content as possible. Thank you Mr. Cloud 9

[@6baltej6]

spoiler he doesnt say anything important all episode

[@zeitecsmith2875]

@@6baltej6 Yeah it was weird, Thooorin and Monte switched roles where Monte is the host leading conversation and Thooorin is just an analyst (role within the podcast, I don't think he calls himself a LoL analyst since he's a CSGO specialist)

[@iRiDiKi]

@@zeitecsmith2875 I think as the eps and worlds go on he will be able to express more. He's new to it, and new to the meta that league is now. Honestly I still think it's better/correct to play league like they did in the past, just they need to figure out how to get through all the early stuff first. Once it's figured out league will go back, unless Riot keep making big changes to the game that act as mini resets.

[@TheSergio1021]

Mr. Cloud 9 😂

[@kalash_nikov]

@@iRiDiKi That's so weird, but as I was reading the beginning of your comment, Monte was just saying that exact same thing (I assume you took it from him, but that's not important) at 32:48. So freaky.

[@LOLxArcSaber]

He's given all these production tools but yet they're still allowing them to be themselves with no filter banter when they talk I love this.

[@WarHawk215]

Obviously they're a bit soft on C9 but still thoorin being honest with their chances.

[@FeroMortem]

Making league of legends feel like home again. The best show on the internet.

[@predragdjedovic]

It could be if they let Monte solo lead show,and trow out this idiot Thorin

[@Moontrimmer86]

I'm not used to seeing legs. It's distracting.

[@cracktr0]

aka thorins thicc thighs and locos moose knuckle.

[@darkmasterlord57]

So used to just seeing them as head and shoulders in pixelated webcams

[@SuperHeroR]

I miss Monte and Monte's laugh so much (especially the Monte antics)!! Monte, hope you're doing well. I hate what Riot did to you, and wish some how we can have you back permanently.

[@psixi7230]

same

[@LodgicalThoughts]

its better this way, now he can voice his actual opinion. not his riot filtered opinion.

[@RaidsEpicly]

When you're hanging out with your old best friend who you kinda like more than your new best friend

[@catnapMitsu]

Dom is so well spoken. I really enjoy it when he does content with this crew. They should get him in more often!

[@samueltunnicliffe7012]

Well... it happened. Just not in the way we expected

[@persephone9360]

@@samueltunnicliffe7012 REALLY not in the way we expected!

[@hamaniedrees669]

Having Thorin and Monte in a league show is one of the best ways to wanting to know more stuff about league. So entertaining and informative at the same time SI I love it.

[@jujingyi94]

that intro was fun

[@seren451]

Never in my life would I ever thought I'd see Thorins legs

[@theanonymouschicken169]

“You and Thorin have to play nice” *Pushes him in the first 30 seconds*

[@willbo6416]

I need Montecristo & DOA on an analyst desk covering league of legends again

[@ihateeveryone8161]

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING SUMMONING INSIGHT BACK BOYS, THIS HAD TO HAPPEN!

[@samdixon5496]

The old gangs back. And so am i

[@anthonyewolf]

This is straight nostalgia from back when I used to throw this on in the background and pretend I could be a league analyst and crack a cold one with the boys. Now it's like 5 years later... Still kind of pretending.

[@richyj627]

Love it! Thank you to our hosts and Cloud 9 for putting this together!

[@FlewerN]

Monty and Thooorin on league again, so legendary, worth my 3 hours! THANKS C9

[@mattwc93]

I'm so glad we get Monte back at least in some capacity. The "Pooping back and forth forever" comment about SPY was amazing.

[@rax1e352]

I haven't even played LoL seriously for a long time or barely even touched it, but I am hyped af for this

[@Wearenotwell]

Monte saving Thorins career quickly moving on from the wukong joke

[@mcoffely]

Free Wukong. Fuck Chinese owned Rito.

[@raymondriles2241]

I thought he was going for the old regi wukong meme and that it would be regi jumping on loco

[@coldDrive]

I was sure I stayed subbed on this channel for a reason. Here it is.

[@Goonwild5299]

Rare magic when these guys get together. They are all real ones. Never change

[@awesomecoca]

It seems Loco took a bath. Good for him

[@predragdjedovic]

What about you? U smell like idiot all over the net!

[@liltonyabc]

Haven't really watched league of legends since season 4, and wow seeing this production value is amazing!

[@ZulousOG]

@DastardlyMuffins its somehow worse

[@ZulousOG]

@DastardlyMuffins the production value is way worse now than it was before. The meta has changed but this has nothing to do with the meta

[@ZulousOG]

@DastardlyMuffins the last 2 worlds have had awful production, even simple things have been done poorly.

[@sodaron]

Great you have you back Monte and Thorin.

[@HapMcGregor]

Thorin had polio as a child so those must be prosthetic legs

[@LockoRockoFTW]

Lamo coming back for the scrilla makes it so fitting

[@wkingston1248]

the full production is so cool

[@Muppstarz]

Looking forward to the second week, I think they'll get progressively better

[@kemvaros5031]

SUMMONING INSIGHT, LETS GO BABY! Thank you Cloud 9!

[@Strifex3]

Watching this after Day 1, Dom hit the nail on the head with the Team Liquid vs Damwon matchup!

[@haydn1708]

This is fantastic I’m so happy to have monte back! but we need time stamps in the description or pinned comments please C9

[@1JoeRocket]

Haydn xo xotwod

[@AsianAnimeRuLe]

i never got so excited for a talk show about league until I heard about this

[@Rafa-ke2sz]

Thank you Cloud9 for making this happen

[@Paws403]

Finally the league villains are back!

[@hamzasehavdic]

Thanks c9 for this, I'm very grateful we can see the trio back

[@acsu96]

holy moly, even better than the return of SI, is SI with a ton of episodes scheduled in the works. OWL offseason ironically means Monte can put a bunch of time into league show haha

[@RoughRunnerAce98]

What is the best way to support this work? Thank you for bringing SI back

[@StGeorgedragonhunter]

Back in the game!!!

[@Calebstarcraft]

C9 the real winners of worlds for bringing this back

[@broefkip]

This shit is amazing, I would love for this to continue on for a long time :)

[@umiluv]

So great to see this! Missed you guys so much. ❤️

[@iamkailong]

Monte, you are a Blizzard employee. As a caster, freedom of speech must be valued highly for you. Could you comment on the recent fiesta of Blizzard (obviously Riot too) banning player from speaking up for HK. Thank you.

[@sleven8013]

This is the best content for League period

[@kollat13]

THAT INTRO WAS INSANE

[@botcrafter4906]

THANK YOU CLOUD9

[@SuperDeamien]

Dominate is a great guest, great show

[@jensa91]

I’ve missed this so much! Hopefully Doa comes on as a guest!

[@Mike-hy8cs]

I truly believe samsung white is the best team we have ever seen. The pure dominance they showed on the worlds stage over every team was insane. They were blowing every team out in 30 minutes or less because their aggressive early game-mid game was so scary. Skt 2015 was a close second.

[@zer0day873]

This show is so clean. Part from thorin and monte finger gesturing to production 😆

[@darthpsykoz]

This is what I needed to get hyped for worlds!

[@hmmm8850]

Loco is sitting so awkwardly, but its good to be back. Lowkey worried listen loco was done.

[@F0rtysxity]

Yes. The boys are back in town!

[@blackjack2150]

Good banter, but also informative. Can't wait for the next episode.

[@joelyons8129]

monte back, always good content with him/thorin/loco

[@jolodobles724]

Thorin group saw the future of group a

[@danielrodrig33]

"This is jungle politics" -Locodoco

[@airstyles1989]

THERE WE GO! WELCOME BACK!!!!!

[@AshesOfGravity]

wtf is this? Actual production values? Bring back skype calls on NA to EU connections

[@trollguyyeah]

It takes 1 new episode for the Wukong hot take.

[@mitchellwilliam95]

17:05 History between Loco & Repeared during their professional days-- leads into an inside joke about TSM Wukong.

[@angelchama1874]

this is the best league show pleasge let dom be a regular guest :pepehands

[@Yelpadin]

Oh yes right into my veins

[@devensamra4510]

JeyTilly yes siiir

[@acsu96]

Something I haven't seen mentioned on any of the talk shows I've watched is in the GAM - SPY matchup that gives Splyce a boost: Jensen Goh helps coach them. If anyone watches and knows about GAM, it's him.

[@Captharlock80]

Hopefully this will continue on once worlds is done, even if it is on a bi-weekly or monthly schedule

[@DuelistNoel]

THANK YOU C9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE INTRO XD

[@TheStryker247]

Imagine if deft and knight were at worlds

[@c105mik3]

I'm absolutely I loving this ty C9 for making this happen.

[@DuelMp5]

I seriously love Dom's rant on DWG, they are probably the most overrated team I've ever seen coming into Worlds

[@kadenkoepnick434]

LGD season 5 was worse

[@DuelMp5]

@@kadenkoepnick434 I think LGD was correctly hyped after LPL won MSI that year, they were the 1st seed afterall, even though they massively disappointed and was made a meme DWG on the other hand didn't do jack shit but was already predicted to be a top 4/5 team at Worlds

[@kadenkoepnick434]

@@DuelMp5 Ah I thought you meant overrated based on worlds results. I'm not gonna claim to be some LCK expert but from what I've seen DWG is underperforming pretty hard so far in worlds. They were a top team in korea for the summer split and had to beat some solid teams to make it to worlds so it's not like they've done nothing to be rated as a decent team.

[@aeowinh]

I will wait, apparently the first seed of China want to compete for that title

[@firstlast5630]

G2 is the most overrated team.

[@MrSpenczar]

IM IN LOVE WITH THIS

[@IgnacioCentu96]

Thank Mr Cloud9

[@ArchAngelDublin]

I havent really followed Monte since he left the league scene but it seems like he was having such a good time here at this show. Can anyone confirm if hes laughed this much in overwatch videos? Im glad hes doing this again even if its just for worlds :^)

[@xxxbilly]

MIGA - Make Insight Great Again

[@nhuxtable4019]

TAKE MY MFing LIKE FROM MY SWEATY PALMS

[@jonrundle5385]

This show is so damn hype. Thanks for the content

[@persephone9360]

the caller section was truly the top prospects of the gaming community showing up. multiple silent idiots, one dude just laughed and DCed, lag all around

[@StrongestCreatureOnEarth]

Im so filled with joy

[@stevenmallory8578]

Guess who's back? Back again

[@BaHayaDK]

Monte's back. Don't tell Rito

[@soccerfanbrock]

fantastic guests

[@guilhermekeffer8673]

Man, that is amazing!!

[@sado259]

Thanks to C9 for this awesome content

[@FailMachineInc]

THANK YOU CLOUD 9

[@morfea123]

Like the good old glory days of the league!

[@PatchworkPS]

Those intros are 10/10. Great shit.

[@mariom1939]

God damn, I was about to sleep..

[@Lead3RVideos]

This production is lit 🔥

[@LAK253]

Best Worlds content on YT.

[@JoaoPedroTiago]

For the next episode is it possible to have a better qualaty upload ? even if u have to upscale the footage, the image qualaty willl be better since the compression ratio will not be so agressive

[@paulrodriquez4079]

awesome content! best show on league ever!!

[@MrZimono]

This was great, but I wish we could have some Grog

[@umiluv]

❤️

[@TyTy_1198]

Thoorin is savage af and the 🐐🐐

[@NudePenguin]

Wtf. Is this the best thing ever hahahaha

[@gordonfreemanlaw]

Thanks for the juicy content

[@psyclops973]

The best part is, the peasants are happy with the show's return, and Thoorin and the boys are getting mad skrilla

[@dariomajetic5404]

Thorin is shuch a lagend, and his unique personality and jokes are so funny... keep doing what ur doing i follow u for many years now cuz i play and watch both cs go and lol...