Eclipse Should NOT Be ALIVE And NEEDS HELP!

Eclipse Should NOT Be ALIVE And NEEDS HELP!
Eclipse reaches out to Sun and Moon telling them something is wrong and he shoudln't be alive. HAs Eclipse gone INSANE?!
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[@Ijustexistfornoreason]

"Eclipse should not be alive and needs help" why did they describe SAMS fandom's mixed opinions on Eclipse?

[@purpur_flower-104]

Idk man, we love and hate that Burt dorito

[@Calicowithastick]

true ppl simp for him and hate him

[@xPoisonedStardustx]

I’m on the ‘Eclipse should not be alive’ team. How about everyone else?

[@Lover.Drawing]

Cuz they know some of us want him dead And some of us have as much faith in him for redemption as Charlie has faith in demons

[@purpur_flower-104]

@@Calicowithastick I am one of those persons

[@Saintpentious]

You know eclipse is desperate if he needs help from the people he hates

[@rileycasteel9267]

Did solar remake him? He wouldn't cause he hates him just as much as moon does. Sun trust solar! He wouldn't do that! Solar would be mad at sun for not trusting him.

[@Calicowithastick]

real tho

[@rainpuppy14]

@@rileycasteel9267 no solar did not remake him Solar was the code, somebody copied his code, and that’s how eclipse was brought back.

[@goldencatandfirecat3751]

He hates everyone

[@Clestial_oreo]

fr

[@solarsnumber1fan]

eclipse must be really desperate to ask MOON for help knowing very well how much moon hates him

[@purpur_flower-104]

I mean, 2 brains are better than one

[@Solars.number1fan]

Username twins😻

[@purpur_flower-104]

👁👁

[@elainerich6229]

​@@Solars.number1fanAre you the one I had a mega talk with on one of the animations with Solar tied up

[@Solars.number1fan]

@@elainerich6229 lmao yes, that was me

[@N_OnDrugs]

Eclipse: i confronted the creator... Suns cat: * flies up the stairs in the background*

[@MONTY_PLEA]

Bro looked like Superman lmao- 💀

[@SkittleShark27]

Istg that momment was so unhinged

[@Sal182-27]

I JUST NOTICED THAT TOO LMAO

[@Eclipsetherat]

lol

[@Aya.Sharkizee]

Bro just turned on Superman mode and ascended

[@CrescentDoesArt]

Sun Moon and Eclipse just having a normal conversation is so funny to me- 😭💀

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

Fr, normal things :)

[@purpur_flower-104]

The most common conversation between the three

[@duckmaster7868]

Family AU be like

[@annvisie]

I mean... Eclipse is right. If Sun and Moon managed to get rid of him, that "someone" would just make another Eclipse! And you know what the saddest part is? From their entire conversation, you can tell that Eclipse isn't so keen on staying alive...

[@Cozmix_starzz]

I know its sad.. But i dont think anyone would even care if he was or wasnt they just want him dead..

[@annvisie]

@@Cozmix_starzz 😭

[@VTFpersonal]

is really sad! for us as that we know all of Eclipses past and whole character development-- for them? even if they have reasons to hate/fear him-- at some point they gonna need to stop and think if Sun managed to talk face to face to BM and offer help? why cant he do it to Eclipse? the one who have showed actual remorse? and is actually asking for help?

[@annvisie]

@@VTFpersonal Let's hope that's what happens. In the meantime, I will continue to sit here and fear for the life of our Clipsy :(

[@ghaithullahal-zubi152]

It’s sad for us that he is alive

[@NadineScholtes]

6:22 Cat teleports, Sun notices. 6:39 cat flies up the stairs. 7:02 cat is suddenly behind Sun and is scratching the door. The cat needs to be named Mystery, because he/she is one!

[@dragonden72]

/they/it

[@NadineScholtes]

@@dragonden72 Ah sorry English is not my first language.

[@-Stick_Lore-]

​@@NadineScholtesI'm only 1:47 in the video, and I'm already dying from cuteness from Sun's cats.. ;-;

[@shahaleel-queen]

​@@NadineScholtes But I don't blame you because I don't speak English well

[@Wings_of_fire_4_ever]

Moon always threatens his enemies by saying, "I will skin you alive." 😮😅

[@DarkMariLost]

The fact that Eclipse is questioning his existence and sound so tired.... Im sure this is a pre-redemption arc. Proud of Sun for not fully panicking like he used to, even he's tired of this BS

[@starletnight2849]

Yeah. I’m hoping that they either redeem him, or just let him have his eternal rest. I feel like those would be the best two endings for him.

[@DarkMariLost]

@@starletnight2849 true, let's hope, I kinda feel bad, he really sounded that he just doesn't want to be there, let's hope what happens next.

[@madaicita17]

@@starletnight2849Either would be cool

[@solarsnumber1fan]

i’m so happy that moon apologised to sun afterwards for screaming because old moon wouldn’t havs

[@ayyyimmaninja]

Well this was a gut punch. I understand Sun and Moon have no reason to trust or listen to Eclipse…but wouldn’t they find it odd that he is seeking them out?? That he is asking the question everyone else is asking?? I understand why they wouldn’t hear him out, but I wish they did… The guy needs help.

[@dianacampbell9398]

Seriusly dude? The last time Moon accepted a deal to help Eclipse, he ended up dead, this reaction of anger and rejection is totally logical and justified.

[@matosarex5882]

Moon won't make the same mistake twice. Dying once to accept a deal with Eclipse was more than enough. He is trying to improve, both in terms of his anger issues, and also trying not to make the same mistakes as Old Moon. Eclipse will only be able to get help from someone whose life he hasn't ruined in the past >c

[@jaydensirman]

They (especially moon) let their anger overpower them and it caused them to leap over that big question. That big fact.

[@indodinoyoutube]

I'm honestly glad they didn't trust him enough to work with him. That's only ever ended badly. I do hope someone figures out who rebuilt him though... WE NEED TO KNOW!!! The only person I can really think of would be Vanny, possibly to keep Sun and Moon and even Lunar busy until she reaches the point in her plan where she takes over the shows? The only problem is that I don't think she has magic... we also haven't seen what all her glitch form is capable of, so maybe she does now? I've heard some people also mention Taurus because of the magic, which mostly tracks. He could either be using it to force Lunar to control his powers faster, or to make Lunar lose control so he has an excuse to kill the poor bean. However, we don't know if Taurus is even capable of building animatronics! We know very little about his capabilities at all! I considered Phantom Freddy... but he doesn't have his own magic. He has to steal it from other magic users. And he wouldn't give that power to an animatronic he's never met! Plus he has NO REASON to go after Sun, Moon, Lunar, etc! Most of the villains don't actually... except Vanny, the less friendly Astrals, and the creator, who was already ruled out. Though I guess it's possible he was lying... the creator is an insanely good liar after all! As for Ruin... I don't think he's the one who rebuilt Eclipse. I agree that he may not be fully cured, but I have this gut feeling he genuinely had nothing to do with Eclipse. Personally, my bet is on Vanny currently. I mean... all the purple arcade glitches, with Vanny herself being glitched now? Solar and Moon being technologically capable of fixing what Vanny did to Roxanne? Vanny choosing a date for Roxy's memories that so directly involved Sun? HECK! Vanny's return episode thumbnail had SUN'S SEVERED HEAD in the background of Vanny's lab for crying out loud! Stepping into a writer's perspective for a moment, they really seem to be setting up for the characters to blame Ruin only to reveal Vanny as the true culprit when the time comes. And if it isn't her, it's gotta be Taurus. He's the only other person with potential motive!

[@rainpuppy14]

@@indodinoyoutube the dates don’t add up She said she wasn’t going to make her move until the new year. He showed up on the 26th. You can watch the Roxanne and Gregory mus musical she says oh how much I’d love to mess with them around Christmas, but I have to be patient also is she strong enough to knock solar out not to mention she’s a lot smaller than he is whoever knocked him out, would have to be roughly the same size as him

[@crazylazya]

. . . Well, F**k. That sure was a rollercoaster. Eclipse's voice thou... Davis always surprises me with his acting abilities. WOAH

[@Daycare_Attendant]

Hopefully this means my boi Eclipse can get a redemption arc soon! 1:47 THE CAT 😂 3:07 CLIPSY! :D 3:33 That laugh! 😭 5:56 Clipsy, don’t say that about Solar Clipsy… 7:17 Moony, give him a chance, don’t make this worst 😭 7:43 Sunny, please calm him down 8:50 Your worst if you don’t help him and give him a chance to get a redemption arc, he’s different 10:09 WHAT DID HE DO, HE FELL IN THE WATER? XD I feel bad for Clipsy! I want him to get a redemption arc! They wouldn’t just bring him back for like the second time just to kill him off again. I feel like this might actually be a redemption arc for him!

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

Lol I love these comments

[@Solars.number1fan]

His laugh is everything I swear. I don't care if it's evil laugh for some reason I just love it lol. Also as many insane twists this show has I'm kinda scared of the thought of what if Solar was the one who brought Eclipse back? But at the same time it literally doesn't makes sense. Why would he? He cares about Sun, Moon, Earth and Lunar too. And he was knocked out. I'm still kinda suspicious of Ruin's virus not being completely gone. I'm gonna be mad if they make Solar the one who brought Eclipse back because honestly that completely ruins his nice Eclipse/nice one tilte. Do you have any idea on who could have been the one brought him back?

[@rainpuppy14]

@@Solars.number1fan solar was the one who was knocked out. How could he have brought eclipse back if he was the one used

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

@@Solars.number1fan I have a little theory that’s been going on my mind since watching this video. What if Solar is a reeeaallyy smart Eclipse? Like, what if his Moon hated him for a reason? What if Solar is actually ‘gaining’ Sun and Moon’s trust, to finally do what Eclipse couldn’t? I feel like Solar might be a possibility, but he was already working on Jack. So… idk. But there is a possibility. To be honest, Solar is kinda just that chill guy that everyone likes to hang out with. He is kind to Lunar, Earth, Moon and the other characters. But I feel like Solar has been up to something lately. We haven’t seen much of him since rescuing Ruin and him creating Jack.

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

@@rainpuppy14 oh yeah, Solar was knocked out…. I still have that theory in mind tho

[@alexandriavansteenwyk3622]

Eclipse really sounds upset. He sounds like he doesn't WANT to be back. But perhaps you could give Eclipse a chance. Put him on a short leash and give him a chance.

[@gachabox3142]

Lmao put him on a child harness

[@COSGUK]

*reads title.* There aren't enough therapists in the world to help Eclipse right now.

[@probablysatan..5776]

REAL, AND I HAVEN'T EVEN STARYED STUDYING! GIVE ME SOME TIME BRO 😭

[@tomgallant2913]

YOU JUST ROSTED HIM 😂😂

[@Saturnthe_Sleepyhead]

No therapist would ever wanna see him anyway 😂

[@voodokitty6897]

Fr 😂

[@GL1TT3R_B0MB]

DANG-

[@Marshmallow_gal]

WHO ELSE CLICKED STRAIGHT AWAY?! 👇 Edit: Eclipse doesn’t even sound like he wants to be alive, but he doesn’t want to die because he wants revenge, but he sounds too tired

[@Tornado_203]

Yep

[@GalaxyGaming503]

Me

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

Literally as soon as it popped in my notifications and it read ‘Sun and Moon Show’ my finger instinctively clicked it. It’s just a habit I do every now and then, I just click on notifications that seem appealing to me

[@purpur_flower-104]

@@Solarpuppet_7112 Doesn’t matter if I’m watching something interesting, I got priorities, and we all click if it’s the SAMS

[@jaydensirman]

poor eclipse but karma is a bish ain't it?

[@EmilySpiritExT]

Good that Sun let his cat out so if Moon were to have a rage, the cat would be spared the scene. Good on Sun to wanna comfort Moon after such a distressing call.

[@BuubleInk]

3:06 bro is doing his own audio for the simps💀

[@purpur_flower-104]

Eclipse: **breathing seductively**

[@BuubleInk]

@@purpur_flower-104 lmao 💀

[@sigdorbloody]

NAHH FR LMFAO

[@H0lyV3sp3r]

@@purpur_flower-104STOP (I’m getting the fanfic written now! 🤭)

[@duckmaster7868]

​@@H0lyV3sp3r Tell me when it's finished-

[@GalaxyGaming503]

7:40 damn eclipse was MAD Edit: I think he was going to say, YOU’LL JUST MAKE ANOTHER MISTAKE! but it came out as YOU’LL JUST MAKE ANOTH-

[@azulathesunmoonsimp8939]

That actually sounded more like a mix of anger *and fear-*

[@Delianne_kate]

That was the first time I heard him scream

[@_.hybrids._1680]

It’s more like desperation and fear

[@charstarblade6602]

I think he was saying "they will just make another-" Refuring to whoever brought him back will just do it again

[@GalaxyGaming503]

@@charstarblade6602ohh that’s actually smart I didn’t think of that

[@lemonessence4301]

I clicked right away when I saw the new episode ^^ and WOW, seeing both Eclipse begging for help and Moon just screaming at him like that... I can imagine where Moon's hate comes from, can't blame him, though I also can't really pretend like I am not worried about what happens with Eclipse, he just isn't himself from when he got back. He didn't ask anyone to bring him back and then he suddenly appeared out of the air and... from almost the start it seems like he doing all bad stuff just because this is who he was before he died but is he really still feeling the same hatred, or at least that strong hatred towards them? I think the fact that in the few last episodes before his death, he seemed kinda torn between moving on from this hatred when he talked with Solar means something. Maybe he wanted things to be different but ye, it was back then way too late for fixing it, both in his eyes and both Sun and Moon. But anyway, to sum it all Eclipse has some serious crisis and he looks anywhere for help since he feels hyperfocused on why he is alive in the first place and what that means for him. Huh... I wonder in which direction the show gonna move.

[@Frog_Xs]

*The title speaks facts and this video fills you with determination for the Eclipse redemption arc*

[@_0MoonRise0_]

*agreed 👍*

[@sunspotgamer5388]

I’m gonna be fair, I don’t think I want an Eclipse redemption arc. I mean, what are they gonna do once he is redeemed? Make a new character?

[@dogwoodsALPHAfoot]

stop 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[@Theo.waffles]

Kinda..?

[@Frog_Xs]

@@sunspotgamer5388 well- that’s going to be figured out in a second part- I JUST WANT MY DORITO TO BE OK DUDE-😭

[@EmilySpiritExT]

AHHHHHHHHHH! Sun's other cat! 1:05 I can't tell if it's black or has dark colored fur. The lighting isn't the greatest! But AWWWWW hiya Tux's brother or sister! (we don't know the genders of his cats.) So cute!

[@rainpuppy14]

He moon says about how big he is

[@EmilySpiritExT]

@@rainpuppy14 yea!

[@gachabox3142]

I think it’s a tuxedo cat judging by the white fur on its neck going down to its belly

[@EmilySpiritExT]

@@gachabox3142 That’s adorable! No wonder Sun got that cat too!

[@gachabox3142]

@@EmilySpiritExT I wonder, if Sun were to give Eclipse a chance like he tried to with Bloodmoon, if Sun and Eclipse would bond over cats

[@ObsessiveCelestial]

Well ain’t that a concerning title. And thumbnail…

[@Duskdrop666]

You know it's bad if he's on his hands an knees begging Moon

[@elainerich6229]

Yeah..if eclipse was mentally on his hands and knees (like in the thumbnail) it means he is DESPERATE

[@VirusMoon]

Eclipse has a point. Redemption arc time

[@MelloWasNeverHere]

Yay!!

[@starling1226]

Eclipse has a point, if he dies again without finding out who brought him back, he will be brought back again.

[@TiredMechanic]

I want to be alive; but I need purpose....I need peace. To move on; and not have everyone in that family hate me. I also need to find out who brought me back; but Sun and Moon just wont be nice to me for once in their damn life :(

[@indodinoyoutube]

Exactly. But I also am glad they're refusing to help him with that too. Bro literally specified "YET" after saying he wasn't going to kill anyone. He isn't trustworthy enough to partner with him.

[@blueheather2.0]

@@TiredMechanic No. Find out who brought you back so y'all can off him/her, then Sun+Moon will off you and you won't come back. Congrats, people will no longer call you Afton😁

[@starling1226]

@@indodinoyoutube I think he means he wants to kill the one who brought him back

[@wolpernessi]

omg... being killed over and over again will just damage him even more tho O.o

[@Lunar-n-Solar_Show]

The title is accurate

[@Mr_PuzzlesWife]

Yes it is

[@Kurkiaaa]

Fr!

[@purpur_flower-104]

Yes

[@Oldaccountstarrthelunatic]

REDEMPTION

[@Saintpentious]

​@@Oldaccountstarrthelunaticyes

[@Lover.Drawing]

YO ECLIPSE BEGGING ON HIS KNEES IS SOMETHING I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE

[@Eternalbeingg]

Fr

[@Tufflyin_asmrVA]

FR

[@_0MoonRise0_]

Now the title is interesting me- *curious eyes* Redemption maybe…? :3 7:34 I just love the way they’re just yelling at each other it’s so hilarious to me- Well I never thought I’d see Eclipse on his knees begging…(the thumbnail-)

[@Inky_Kuro]

THE TITLE OH MY GOSH I WHEEZED SO HARD 6:40 Eclipse, being very serious and cool: Me, focusing on the background: "What da cat doin'?" Also Sun and his cats

[@mamakaroti3520]

Only person I can think of who won’t kill him on sight or run away screaming, and might actually consider helping him is probably Earth, maybe Ruin Wait…. The creator might be able to help eclipse, he doesn’t seem to hate him that much

[@Inky_Kuro]

@@mamakaroti3520 She wouldn't run away or fight on sight, but I don't think she'd be super open to helping unless he was actually to her, still. Their last talk did not go well! x'D

[@WafflesssFalling]

@@mamakaroti3520 well, Sun has been very calm around this whole ordeal, I think he'd be most willing to help him, especially with having known Eclipse the longest at this point (if Sun isn't behind bringing him back, anyway, with how well he's handing it)

[@CandyBeeMoon23575]

You know it's a bad tink when eclipse is literally begging the moon to kill him

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

I think Eclipse kinda needed help from the start. He was confused, trapped in Sun’s mind. Discarded by Old Moon. Obviously he was gonna be upset!

[@VTFpersonal]

yep- if you go suuuuper back- he even tried to talk to Moon in a silly villain way but he did warned Moon of what he would do.. and Moon? only talked him down and acted like he could handle him like a simple virus.. the more times he gets "beated" the more desperate and mad he got.. in Lunar's arc he showed remorse and even some worry of Lunar sooo yea

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

@@VTFpersonal Yup, Eclipse in my opinion needs therapy and an actual friend. That he won’t turn on. Because he turns on everybody. If he just turns against everyone and betrays them, he won’t get anything else but hate, loss, and getting yelled at by Sun and Moon. But the thing is, Eclipse sounded serious. He wasn’t lying because you can easily tell when Eclipse is lying. He sounded tired, desperate and lost. He isn’t the devious, villainous, evil mastermind he used to be. Eclipse is struggling to keep on edge of his own sanity. I feel like Eclipse might… snap… but in the worst way possible soon. And I’m concerned and genuinely worried for him. Let’s get our fingers crossed to find out who brought him back, so Eclipse can finally confront them on why. It ain’t Ruin, The Creator, Solar or anyone else. It has to be an unknown person that is hiding waiting to be introduced. Hopefully Eclipse can then ‘bite they’re a$$’, and get his revenge.

[@VTFpersonal]

@@Solarpuppet_7112 yea- he is serious. he did make peace with his death- he accepted him- now he is back against his will! I feel if he does snap- it may happend as he is being under control- showing not that he is in fact fighting for control.. also that- his paranoia grew once Lunar betrayed him- thats when he grew more angry, sure lunar showed him he wasnt on his side anymore- yet I feel Eclipse fully trusted him- and that is a scar that is not gonna heal soon idk who will be friends with him- part of me hopes Sun can be the one giving him a hand- like he offer to BM- and Eclipse- takes it..

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

@@VTFpersonal But I don’t think Sun will, but at the same time I think he will. My reasons to why he probably won’t, is because Sun hates Eclipse. He hates him as much as he hates Bloodmoon. But when Moon was on call, Sun was very quiet as if he was regretful or guilty. But afterwards, he acted normal. I don’t know if Sun feels sympathetic for Eclipse, but it would be cool seeing Eclipse get some help. I mean, he needs it. Seriously.

[@Solarpuppet_7112]

I feel like someone is controlling Eclipse as well. He wouldn’t just ‘make’ a puzzle, and be all confused about it. That unknown person must be sending protocols to Eclipse, and he does them without his own will. When he went to the creator, he said something like, “I… Made a puzzle…” as if he didn’t understand why or how. This unknown person must be really powerful if they are able to control Eclipse. But he is quite weak, being rebuilt with ‘old fazbear parts’ as the creator said. I just wanna hug Eclipse. Eclipse wants to find out who killed him, then die. He’s died twice already. First death getting mangled in the woods somewhere in an unknown location, then getting exploded by a satellite lazer. Damn. Hopefully Sun and Moon will understand later on. I just hope Moon doesn’t get too stubborn *just* because it’s Eclipse. Eclipse isn’t a bad guy all the time. Yes, he exploded Lunar, he built Bloodmoon, he manipulated and abused Lunar, but right now he is getting the pain thrown right back at him.

[@MinerB2023]

who else noticed that Moon told Sun to remain calm but got angry himself 🤣

[@KaiyoMooooonTwT]

Sniff sniff* I smell hypocrisy

[@starletnight2849]

@@KaiyoMooooonTwT That’s been there for a while now, bud

[@KaiyoMooooonTwT]

@@starletnight2849 I'm aware. U don't have to act like I'm just some stupid kid on the internet I'm just saying.

[@starletnight2849]

@@KaiyoMooooonTwT I was trying to make a joke. I wasn’t trying to be malicious. I’m sorry that I came across that way. I don’t know anything about you, so why would I call you stupid if we’ve never interacted before? I will, however, ask you to try to be more respectful when speaking, even though I accidentally offended you, because it was unintentional on my part. I should’ve made my tone more clear, and I accept that. I simply struggle with context clues and hadn’t perceived my reply to be offensive. Again, I apologise.

[@frostywolf9863]

I am ADDICTED to these thumbnails, don’t even get me started

[@purpur_flower-104]

Don’t get me wrong but moon on the thumbnail looks a bit familiar **usseewa starts playing on the background**

[@A_WildWillow]

Why did I read this to 'Addict' once I saw 'addicted'-

[@Mygoat57]

I saw the title, and I was: "Yes, this is accurate, he doesn't indeed need a lot of help"

[@25shadow11]

The sad thing at that is, that KINDA was a good chance there. He literally more or less just strolled in offered them a solid chance to at least get their hands on him somehow. Clipsy had a SOLID point, they really SHOULD look into who brought him back, because they COULD just make him again, even if Sun and Moon put him down again. To be honest... It sounds like even ECLIPSE is tired of being brought back, he sounds tired of.. being. Recall what he said to himself long ago, back when he had the star: "I'm so tired, I'm so. Damn. TIRED. I just want to be DONE." Perhaps that.. exhaustion hasn't fully gone. That feeling of being just so fed up with... It all. He literally all the power in the world, the universe, and wasn't happy. He put down Lunar, wasn't happy. Nothing he did made him happy, I'm willing to bet being brought back by some random is making him VERY unhappy, because someone obviously could've just done it on a whim to use him somehow. His existence being just a tool for someone else, no doubt he would want to be done if that is gonna be the case. A true shame.. he is having a true z genuine existential crisis, unlike any do far in these series..... And no one cares or wants to care. He burned too many bridges, he is all alone in this. It's pitiable

[@animatic-enthusiast]

THE THUMBNAIL IS ABSOLUTE GOLD AS ALWAYS! Oh god this episode seems chaotic-

[@Demondoes]

Eclipse sounds like an abusive ex, the pleading, the evading apologising, he’s distraught yet defensive. What happened to him?

[@-0xaii]

He’s my favorite plot twist I brought him back

[@Demondoes]

@@-0xaii oh no

[@beatricerose4645]

I just saw a short animatic about this!! He has some audacity being alive!

[@elizabeth43267]

RIP the "In VRCHAT" titles.. 😞😞

[@_Gigs_]

I love Sun's cats so fricking much their so dang cute. Also why does Eclipse sound like he was having race with the flash or something like bro wasn't puppet enough for you I am sorry I know this was supposed to be a serious episode but I couldn't stop laughing at that voice of his 😭😭😭💀💀💀

[@purpur_flower-104]

Eclipse should not be here How the f@ck did eclipse find them? That was a wild one

[@Starr_06]

Damn he is THAT desperate to get help from SUN AND MOON 0:12: "when have I ever lead you wrong?" -Moon *pulls out a 15+ hr long video of moon leading sun wrong* 1:35: “hey buddy!” (x1) 2:35: now they're bickering over how big a dumpster is- 3:08: ...well SHI- 3:55: he sounds so tired 4:40: I also agree! :D 5:56: Solar will never do such thing! >:( 7:29: Moon…buddy- let’s calm down… 9:06: awh :( 9:37: “hi buddy! :)” (x2) 9:48: Pizza oven!Pizza oven!PIZZA OVENN!! 10:06: imagine he fell lol 10:10: HA! CALLED IT! 10:17: “hi buddy :]” (x3) Ok but what did you all expect? Did you really think Sun and Moon would actually help Eclipse? He’s the same guy who caused them so much trauma of course they wouldn’t work or even help him 💀 The chance of Eclipse having any redemption arc is very slim, he might have a small one but not enough to deserve forgiveness

[@mamakaroti3520]

I’m pretty sure eclipse just wants to roll over and die for good at this point😅

[@Starr_06]

@@mamakaroti3520 tbh if I kept coming back, I'd want to too And I mean Eclipse actually accepted his death this time 💀👍

[@Dr.M4l1c3]

Sun's protection from stress: KITTY✨

[@EmilySpiritExT]

I'd love to see more Tux! x3 Sun's chonky white cat with some black markings again!

[@Lazuli_Starlight]

Whoa, Eclipse is very, very desperate here. Yikes. That won't end well, Eclipse does stupid things when he is desperate. But also, did he really think Moon would help him? Out of everyone in the celestial family, the only one who would be even less likely to help him is Lunar... Eclipse might have like a 5% chance with Earth but she can't do much to help him (well, she could give him desperately needed therapy but he wouldn't take it). Solar *might* help if he thinks he can use Eclipse to find the culprit and then quickly kill both Eclipse and culprit afterwards. Though I do find it interesting, that recently on the Monty and Puppet Podcast, Solar mentioned how hyper-individualistic Eclipse is, to a toxic degree. Yet here he is asking for help from his worst enemy. I wonder what else could change? For better or worse? I am loving these episodes that let me put Eclipse under a microscope. Hes such an interesting character and a very compelling villain. I want to study his deranged psyche. For Science.

[@laurieperez84]

Eclipse really need help, ruin was right when he was kidnapped by him, please don't die again Eclipse, and you deserve better, don't say you shouldn't be alive😢 Moony calm down please!!!

[@Daycare_Attendant]

True!

[@matosarex5882]

No??? not true Did they really expect Eclipse to get help from those who HIM ruined their lives? The last time he had the opportunity to make a deal with Moon, it led to his death, it is more than logical that Moon is determined not to make the same mistakes as his past life. Eclipse wants help? Well (he does NOT deserve), but let him not be so shameless as to seek her out with those he harmed.

[@Alice._.fpe9]

Sir that's there own opinion not yours you know? People have different opinions like people say he need redemption arc and others just like you hate him. You need to calm down bro😅

[@Alice._.fpe9]

Sir that's there own opinion not yours you know? People have different opinions like people say he need redemption arc and others just like you hate him. You need to calm down bro😅

[@Alice._.fpe9]

Sir that's there own opinion not yours you know? People have different opinions like people say he need redemption arc and others just like you hate him. You need to calm down bro😅

[@kimar7123]

1:47 Kittyyyy!!🤩😍 10:30 Oooohhhh, so that's Sweetie Bear? She's very cute!🥺❤🐾 Sun, I wanna meet the other cats!! Pwiiiiiish!🥺💕✨️ Also, It's the first time I see Moon THIS angry.😬 I actually hid myself in the pillow. Oh god.😶‍🌫️

[@LilyFazbear]

*checks outside* Is the Apocalypse starting? Surely Eclipse turning to the two he'd tormented for help is a sign of that... right? Still... seems he's running out of people he can consult with his problem.

[@mamakaroti3520]

Call Earth, he needs to call Earth

[@Ashleysparadise]

I JUST HAVE TO POINT OUT THE THUMBNAIL! lately for a while theyve had art thumbnails and their AMAZING!! The thumbnail artist needs a raise

[@danixaleon2704]

right now you can expect the worst if eclipse really needed help because it may be true or just a lie but it is eclipse technically no one is going to help you at this point because of everything that the done at the beginning, by the way it is good to see one of sunny's kittens are adorable QwQ especially when he pets him nwn

[@VTFpersonal]

mh..Moon got preetty defensive when Solar was even metioned.. :eyes: mmh~ go on Moonie~ also- gosh daamn-- Eclipse voice heree!! ohh godh Davis did amazing! for the lack of movement - the voices got even better !! the desperation- the fear? stress! he said please! he really is losing it! idk why this Moon acts this..vile ..sure! he feels like he failed when he was back , but is not smart to cut down the person you are trying to actually locate! -this Moon sure is-- different.. god I hope we get to see eclipse in the next lore.. maybe he goes to actually see Moon? he is smart to actually try and get the one person he seems "smart" so far..

[@animatic-enthusiast]

Sun talking to his cats is so wholesome oml This was a great episode. Eclipse must be really desperate if he’s asking Moon for help. Though it’s completely understandable that Sun and Moon don’t wanna help him. I mean, what good has he done for them besides creating Lunar? (Which he didn’t mean to be good) Tbh I wouldn’t mind an Eclipse redemption arc, but I feel like if he had one he would just end up like KC, because the Celestials wouldn’t want him anywhere near them. Though I could imagine them making Eclipse have his own little story instead of just being basically forgotten like KC was. I bet if Eclipse had a tinder profile the simps would go crazy, lol.

[@Arachnidpanic]

LMAOO I FORGOT K.C HAD A TINDER PF

[@IntrovertedCat]

ECLIPSE’S REDEMPTION ARC MAY BE BEGINNING!!! Also seeing Sun with his cat is so cute, adorable, and wholesome and I love it

[@Starnightlightyippe]

DID ANYONE SEE SUNS CAT GO ON ITS SIDE WHEN IT WENT UP THE STAIRS 😭

[@Fandum_plant]

That title sure is mouth full but it also extremely true Edit (just finished the episode ): Sun is right a dumpster would be taller than them. Even though they both hate Eclipse he brings up a good point on the whole who made him thing a lot of people think it’s ruin but a part of me feels like it could be stitch wraith

[@AU_Fanatic]

I always thought it was the Stitchwraith too. However, some people think it's Vanny and considering how often the two channels have been collaborating, I can see how they think that. I'm leaning more towards Stitchwraith, but I could be wrong.

[@gacha_galaxygirl_2.0]

He doesn't just need help to find who brought him back. He needs mental help. Because the fact that he thought of this: 5:12 makes it sound like he's suicidal. I wonder if he could call up theripist Earth and if he'll even be allowed to talk to her- 😀

[@_.hybrids._1680]

I’m pretty sure that’s what they’re going for. It’s confirmed that he was beyond exhausted when he died in Solar’s dimension only to be violently ripped back to the land of the living. If it was a normal situation, this call would have been him taunting them if it would happen at all, but no. Eclipse is legitimately begging for death so that he can finally rest.

[@-0xaii]

I think he is suicidal and it made me really sad how moon yelled at him and imagining it Eclipse probably was mad too he just needs A LOT of help and he needs someone to help him realized it, someone like Solar, or Earth I hope he is on his redemption arch, if he is then we all must protect the guy when he is announced because moon will murder him

[@starletnight2849]

@@-0xaii So, what do you suggest we do? Do something like the Eclipse haters (mostly Lunar fans) did, with that whole “protection agency” thingy?

[@Zer0FNaFUndertalelover]

I think this Eclipse should have pointed out that he doesn't remember any of the previous Eclipse's memories except the part that he died.

[@EmilySpiritExT]

Okay so the dog that was relocated by Jack wasn't Vegeta's dog...I honestly wouldn't be surprised if that dog came from the same LITTER as that crazy dog since the unnamed dog survived being in Antarctica for who knows how long and came back with treatable hypothermia. That's good news!

[@Solar_The_Silly]

"Unknown caller-" (Insert TikTok ad) 2:58

[@shigaraki6304]

Hmmm I sense a potential redemption arc… Eclipse does sound a little crazy tho Also, sun petting his cat at the end was adorable :D

[@mamakaroti3520]

Dude died like three times, I would be concerned if he was okay

[@frog9499]

even eclipse wants to be gone he’s confused and just doesn’t want to exist anymore

[@MewMewBomb]

Damn. You know it’s serious when Eclipse seeks out the two people he hates most and asks for help. Tbh he probably could’ve gone about it it differently (maybe with less edgy rambling and without pointing fingers at Solar), and maybe they would’ve listened longer, but like. Them not listening and not wanting to help him is completely valid, and they have every reason to not trust him. At this point, only people he hasn’t wronged before would be willing to even just hear him out. People like Earth and Ruin, and maybe OG Freddy. Since Sun wanted to extend an olive branch to Bloodmoon and spoke to him, offering help, maybe he’d listen to Eclipse, provided they were alone and Moon wasn’t trying to drive Eclipse away. Sun would be extremely guarded, rightfully so, but y’know. Eclipse is dangerous and has a horrible reputation, and he’s hated by many people, but he needs SOME kind of support system right now.

[@rainpuppy14]

Nope earth doesn’t want anything to do with him either Nope, not even OG. Freddie would hear him out. He tried to go after Francine.

[@gachabox3142]

I actually had an idea about Sun giving Eclipse a small chance to talk with him if Eclipse, in return, didn’t hurt anyone or cause problems. I can see Eclipse talking/hanging out with Sun from time to time while Moon isn’t there; playing games, playing with the cats, relaxing outside, and maybe doing some cooking.

[@katarzynamedynska1682]

​@@gachabox3142 same I really want to see this in the show QwQ

[@gachabox3142]

@@katarzynamedynska1682 Me too! If he gets redeemed, this would be a nice way to start him on the path to that!

[@katarzynamedynska1682]

@@gachabox3142 mhm yeah ^^

[@AdriannaOrtiz]

To be fair I think Eclipse needs help,. I think he can be a good person if he gets a chance and change a bit ..

[@Oh._.Wow-2]

This is wild, but atleast moon didn’t explode at sun

[@neilfinkbeiner2513]

The fact that he said "The nice one" makes me think... because we all know that Solar could make a body for eclipse but that's only if he was forced to, that leads to more questions.....

[@wildfoxstyle9063]

Poor eclipse!! Get this man some help!! And don’t let him die!! Let him live let him be free again! ❤❤❤😔🥺

[@JHellraiser]

Moon and Sun should have listened to him, even if it seems like he was rambling. They know better than anyone that Eclipse is not one to just ramble about nothing and considering that he had been right about the astral bodies, it would seem prudent to listen. Plus, he did not sound the same, he sounded desperate and broken.

[@Zer0FNaFUndertalelover]

If Moon would just put his anger and hate for Eclipse, think rationally, and actually think about what Eclipse said about why he's back, and who remade him, and what for, he could temporarily work with Eclipse and find out who's behind this. I think Moon should discuss this with Earth in his next therapy session and see what she has to say about it from a non judgemental point of view.

[@The-Stars-Show]

well it's that time again and now the entire SAMS and LAES lore after the FNAF security breach game Sundrop and moondrop decided to do the impossible. He built a body for himself and separated from his brother when he did this he left a part of his kill code behind thinking that it wouldn't affect Sundrop, it did not affect Sundrop but it developed its own personality forming eclipse, Eclipse eventually burrowed into sundrops head until July 16th where it is believed he took out 12 kids a little bit after this event Moon drops started the sun and moon show as a distraction, maybe a bit of a coping skill for Sundrop. Sundrop and moondrop started making reaction videos and playing games but things quickly got Sinister as eclipse start it again more consciousness and show himself as a prevailing character soon Eclipse would start saying disturbing things through son eventually showing himself to Moondrop. as the year continued to go on Eclipse was planning something he had a new Target now not just freedom a device Moon had created to harvest the power of creation. soon in a hilarious episode of sun and moon show we see that Moon has a counterpart named lunar, his first words were tickle cuddlefish number 17, we soon learn more about lunars existence, Eclipse that made lunar to be his counterpart seeing how well sun and moon work together he assumed that lunar would be a good match but not before he tried to make someone else, we don't learn about it until very later on but Eclipse had tried to make a companion before lunar named blood moon his Pure Drive blood and chaos. Eclipse had been planning for a while torturing Moon drop in Sundrop for a while his plan got put into motion on October 1st, he trapped moon in his own head making it so anytime lunar who had proceeded take over the moon drop his body moved Moon drop would feel excruciating pain making it so Moon drop cannot Escape his own mindscape Eclipse took over son and they continued to go throughout the month taking over the show. at the end of October after Monty had had a talk with lunar he betrayed eclipse, getting into cohorts with moon drop and a big battle pursued where they "killed" eclipse. soon blood moon became a threat going around causing senseless violence. Moon drop started to Tire himself out very fast has he went around what we can only assume the whole world looking for all of the clips backups and destroying them, his friend Monty eventually found him and forced Moon drop to take a break, little did Monty know that this would eventually cause some problems, in a episode that honestly gave me excitement and fear at the same time eclipse came back being quoted as "did you really think you could kill me that easily" giving the same Vibe as William afton's favorite line "I always come back" Eclipse built himself a body and eventually went into hiding but not before f****** with moon some more making his kill code come back, and now we have kill code who eventually partnered up with moon so that he would only kill bad people, God do I wish that Creator was in reach of kill code soon kill code God and cohorts with eclipse and blood moon proclaiming them as his children seeing as they were all made from a kill code, god dammit that was some Darth Vader s***. Oh and the fazbear sent a replasment for sun and moon who thay named "forkface". and now Eclipse out of a fit of stupidity decided that he would become a building, yes he became the computer systems throughout a building kill code eventually decided that he was done killing people and became good, blood moon eventually went off and faced Sundrop getting brutally blasted but now Sundrop haunted by his actions and blood moon started seeing him everywhere, blood moon continue to urge Sundrop to snap luckily Moon drop was there for Sun Drop the whole time, oh yeah and I forgot to mention call my moon drop just lost his whole ass memory so this ain't the same Moon drop we know in Sundrop is having a hard time dealing with that continuously scared that moondrop is going to revert to his old ways of being a "b****" soon we got a new character named Earth after the Creator decided to make sun and moon a more female motherly counterpart after being quoted as saying "you two give more of a creepy Uncle vibe" I love that for you Creator go get them, Earth shows up after a month because she got distracted frolicking through flower fields. we soon discovered that Moon drops friend Monty has a fat crush on her call Mom when I say fat it is obese. soon something traumatizing happens a insane Maniac going by the name of ruin eclipse make sure to roll your r's with that one it's fun call Mom coming here to do one thing from what we and moon know kill the Creator, ruin is another version of sun and moon when they decided to fuse themselves instead of separate soon something called the ruin virus infected them from what I'm going to say and they became an insane British man, Gordon Ramsay would like you ruin. now something even more traumatizing happens lunar gets blown up while running directly towards Monty after he left trying to avoid all of the drama from Sun and Moon, holy s*** what is going on. Monty quickly went to his space base and try to recreate lunar, but eventually he had to leave space in hopes for lunar safe return as Eclipse threatened him, little did anyone know at this point being born in space gives you powers, I'm becoming an astronaut I want my babies to have powers but we'll get to that later. soon lunar was rebuilt son started to learn how to harvest star power and use it, in a beautiful weave nerd battle they fight eclipse and Son uses Kamehameha with the star power sending Eclipse to another dimension where he would be blown the f****** up. before Eclipse died he was trying to warn sun and moon about lunar and to kill him when he came back because of those magical star baby powers, we love that for you eclipse, soon in a heartbreaking video eclipse and a counterpart that I have not yet to introduce because I hate him named solar flare die, lunar comes back thinking he's going to have a good time, kill the Sands because he's going to have the worst time ever. in a trauma response to I don't know being blown the f*** up he started running around, walking and never stopping in a hilarious yet tragic video we get to see that lunar is a mentally traumatized and tries to suffocate himself me too buddy this is what happens when taxes come in, despite all of this Earth tries to soothe him, good Eclipse eventually decides f*** my world I'm moving in now we have a happy little family, oh wait it's not happy, ruin after escaping Moon's hold decided to rebuilt blood moon, in a hilarious yet traumatizing video blood moon comes back for reals this time confronting Sundrop and threatening to torture him, but saying that someone won't let him kill sundrop. soon we get the October Ark after ruin tricks Moon into going away from the daycare to visit their creator, soon they come back to the daycare and find ruin. Moon drop being the genius he is decided to turn on the portal where ruin had planted the bomb which eventually ended up blowing up the daycare and transporting sun and moon into ruins Dimension being stuck there for all of October, we got some hilarious gameplay and some Sinister warnings in October the ruin and blood moon Ark, soon go to eclipse convinces blood moon to help him out so he could get out of ruins grasp promising him freedom, sun and moon will visiting the Creator in Ruins Dimensions steal the ruin virus cure. an epic showdown occurs after sun and moon make it through a portal back to good eclipse and now blood moon. and probably one of the best episodes yet blood moon gets caught with his shenanigans and gets paralyzed, sun and moon in an epic face off against ruin chase him around and eventually stabbed the ruin cure into him which ends up letting blood moon go, great we let a homicidal Maniac Run free good job eclipse. and now this is where we are lunar lost his voice. Sundrop Forest Earth to learn how to drive a car eventually ending up in her crashing it, she opened a bakery then got revenge on Sundrop for the car and Moon went missing and lunar's voices was broken and Earth turned normal size for a while and now Lunar's voice is fixed he was huge for a while. Blood moon attacked Earth and lunar lost control over his powers. Soon they found Earth and she had gotten some upgrades from her father. Sun and moon went to hunt down blood moon they found out he was working with this weird little plush animatronic doll controlled by somebody. Blood Moon encountered the Stitch Wraith and almost died. Lunar (almost) has full control of his powers now yay! Earth finally stood up to the Creator... well the Creator just stood there and Gaslight but we ain't going to talk about that and now moon is mad at Monty for putting Earth In Harm's Way which is understandable and we have a nice break for the whole family enjoying Christmas together and eclipse is back. I... Im so done. And we have to protect lunar oh yeah they also killed for Gore and now she knows that the Creator isn't a saint... although her trying to defend the fact that he most likely doesn't know what love feels like breaks my heart, oh yeah and on top of that Ruin got kidnapped by eclipse and is now safe but he was... affected to say the least. Lunar is now DATING Pollux AND Castor? MOON ISNT MENTILLY UNSTABLE!?! And lunar and earth are trying to get a house... And now Jack my new favorite character... Sun found his cat's!

[@rebeccabrancato1416]

Eclipse: I'm not killing anybody yet.... Me: well by by sun😁

[@mamakaroti3520]

When he says yet I think he means whoever brought him back to life 👀

[@rebeccabrancato1416]

He's probably gonna kill sun I mean like the Roxanne and Gregory show have hinted his death twice in two thumbnails so it might not be eclipse killing him but his death is coming soon

[@Kachan-0]

OMG THE THUMBNAIL SLAYS SO MUCH AND THE NAME OF THE VIDEO TOO- I ALREADY LOVE THIS VID

[@Vincent-the-amalgimation]

REDEMPTION ARC AFTER ABOUT... 1-2 YEARS??? Edit: Oh. My. Whoa. Intense. Very intense is the only way I can describe it-

[@ilovespacegiggles]

I CANT WAUT 1-2 YEARS FOR HIS REDEMPTION ARC (if he's ever gonna get one)

[@axolotl-lover2267]

It seems like every time Eclipse comes back, he loses more sanity and is in more of a state of panic, rage, and distress. Or is that just me seeing that?

[@Blu32000]

The thumbnail is accurate, eclipse needs therapy 💀

[@Sirengirl02]

So Sun Has a Wight cat named Tux and a black cat he calls Sweetie, That is Absolutely adorable. He did say he has two cats right? When his cats went "missing" In that one video the missing posters on the Thumbnail had three cat silhouettes tho..

[@jj-kiwi-shadow]

Moon, you are just as bad if not already worse than eclipse if you don't help him. If you want to be the better man then you'd help him. You don't have to like him but Eclipse pretty much told you and made it obvious that he's afraid and he can't control himself. He made a puzzle for no reason. You could help him and then leave him to do his own thing OR you could try redeem him and talk things out. Edit - i seen little thing about " are you on the 'eclipse shouldn't be alive' side or 'needs help' side" for those wondering if I've not made it obvious, I'm on the 'eclipse needs help' side

[@classicnightbloom0177]

The fact that eclipse even called moon despite the fact he managed to make moon hate him as much as before he was reseted or even more hatred for eclipse then before, says something right there. How much he wants to find out who re made him, how desperate he must be to wanting to know to either get rid of whoever did re make him or torture whoever did and kill them. And I know he was already tired before hand before eclipse died in the other dimension. He must be really tired about being back again now too. So I’m just curious on how things will turn out like, I kinda think it’s ruin, but another part is disagreeing and saying it’s someone else. Not too sure now but we will find out eventually.

[@egodragonvm663]

I’m sorry but…moon MAYBE you shouldn’t have hung up yet.If eclipse, who is probably running from you and HATES you, called for help he must’ve had some reason to….Moon,Sun,…FUCKING SOLAR at this point.CALL.HIM.BACK.

[@MichelleAftonGacha]

The title is so real. Also I am still not used to Sun and Moon having a house but it's really cool

[@artsncraftslayer]

Aww we finally see Sun's cats! They look adorable! Also damn. I can understand why they didn't want to help Eclipse, but then again, he did call the people he absolutely loathes. Here's hoping this is the start of a redemption arc 🙂

[@davenolan5]

Is it wrong i want eclipse to be nice and get along with everyone??

[@VTFpersonal]

nope- old fans been wanting this for a looong time now

[@QueenAcid]

Im one of the few people happy to have Eclipse back. But the poor thing. Someone needs to help him fr. I want him to find himself. Rooting for Eclipse by myself teehee.

[@Chapel003]

I love lunar and eclipse so I’m scared he’s gonna hurt lunar but he seemed like he genuinely wanted help so I’m hoping him and lunar will be ok

[@Daycare_Attendant]

I agree with you!

[@Kurkiaaa]

The title is so accurate. He souldnt be alive and he NEEDS HELP!

[@dogwoodsALPHAfoot]

"eclipse should NOT BE ALIVE" yeah tbh i agree he should get therapy in hell :3 edit after the video: moon acts like he had a breakup- also the fact that eclipse seems like hes trying to hint at wanting therapy. moon will skin him if he tries to talk to earth, much as be in the same building as her 💀

[@purpur_flower-104]

I mean…

[@mamakaroti3520]

He does need therapy tho…

[@lexidotson9972]

Eclipse is William afton conformed XD he always comes back XD

[@uzi_thebot]

Theory: Ruin was never cured, and is acting nice to take advantage of Sun and moon. He remade him so they suffer, as Ruin has given up.

[@lucifersrubberduckie69]

Plot twist: I did it, I brought back Eclipse. Fight me.

[@Thelostwolftherian]

Can we team up

[@kariSha26]

NNNNOOOOOO HOW COULD YOU

[@Thelostwolftherian]

@@kariSha26🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Billchipher764]

​@@ThelostwolftherianWHAT WHY

[@Solars.number1fan]

Another plot twist: And I helped bringing him back and we're planning on making an Eclipse army rn😈

[@Trenidia]

A lore video with Eclipse on my birthday? Best birthday ever! On another note it makes me sad thinking that he’s contemplated destroying himself while also seeing the futility of it all.

[@GumdropElissiaRoselle]

6:40 wtf happened to that cat. It's defying the laws of physics 😂😂

[@Ieatmoldycheese]

😹😹

[@Chrissercombe]

As much im also questioning why and who brought eclipse back and would like to help him but at the same time can we actually trust him tho??? Oh Well let's give it a shot✨️✨️✨️ :D

[@beckywilson1550]

Well he's nicer than old eclipse

[@Purple_Hat_VR]

I love hearing eclipse just have an exestential crisis "why am i back?" "how am i back?" "WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME!?" these are questions eclipse and me ask ourselves every morning before i get out of bed

[@JaydenMoondrop]

Eclipse has always needed help 7:42 Sun just wanted to be his cats after all of that 10:37 Love how Sun is with his cat

[@fnaf_lover_1]

The title basically explains how the SAMS fandom feels about eclipse and I'm loving it. I'm loving the thumbnail too! :3 1:07 KITTY!!!! ⭐ 2:31 Sun defending his cat's intelligence: 3:06 ....what. the. Fu- 3:21 Eclipse sounds like he smoked 10 packs of cigarettes and is now high 😭 3:41 eclipse, you have the balls to call Sun and Moon, you asking for help? AT LEAST, don't ask with your stupid attitude- it's not that hard 😭 4:50 MOON. MOON. HE'S TRYING TO EXPLAIN SOMETHING, PLEASE- I KNOW YOU HATE HIM, SH*T SOME OF US DO. BUT BRUH, PLEASE LET HIM SPEAK 😭 5:59 ECLIPSE LEAVE SOLAR OUT OF THHIS, HE'S DONE NOTHING WRONG. LEAVE SOLAR ALONE, WHY ARE YOU BRINGING HIM INTO THIS?? 😭 6:58; Eclipse has a point, but...i think he's losing his mind about the situation. He literally has no clue why he's alive, he knows he's supposed to be dead and yet he's alive, and has no clue how or why. My thought now is, it was probably Evil sun that brought him back to life just to fuck around with Moon and Sun, because there is nobody else that is an enemy to sun and moon other then Bloodmoon, stitch wraith(if that's how you spell his name), and or it was Ruin, like i said in my theory before. There is literally so many damn questions, and NONE OF THEM ARE BEING ANSWERED 😭 Now, im about to go way back to when Eclipse existed. Eclipse, just appeared in Sun's head, confused as to where he was and to what was happening, when he introduced himself as old Moon's killcode(i think, i don't remember.) Eclipse told old Moon what he was going to do, only to be talked down by old Moon, who probably thought Eclipse was a simple virus that could be defeated. I could see why Eclipse would be upset by that, he was probably seen as a simple virus that could be controlled by old Moon. Eclipse, later on in the future, making Bloodmoon, causing July 16, then more into the future and making Lunar, taking over the show with Lunar. Eclipse, when hitting Lunar, showed remorse for hitting Lunar, asking himself "why did i do that?" But then brushing it off. I feel like Eclipse, making Lunar off of what Moon looks like, when Lunar actually defended himself, looking just like Moon, Eclipse got angry, of course for Lunar questioning him, but also for another reason, being literally talked shit by old Moon, who just saw Eclipse as a simple virus that cam be controlled, Eclipse got angry and hit Lunar, not meaning to do it but with Lunar, in old Moon's body, Eclipse got angry. Eclipse, also clear has abandonment issues, being left alone, First by Old Moon, then by Bloodmoon who just left after literally being created, then by Lunar, Eclipse has a few more issues, like being afraid of the dark(i think) because when playing tattle tails with Lunar, the light cuts off and Eclipse calmly kinda freaks out, one other fear i think Eclipse has being alone, with the fact that when he was going to die the second time with Solar flare, Eclipse said "we" multiple times when saying there had to be a way for them both of them to live. Now, I'm not defending Eclipse for the bullshit he's done, but he had reasons to do it, he wanted to take the star and reset the world, then when he got the star his plans changed and it was just to torment Sun and Moon, now that he died a second time with no way to come back to life, he didn't plan on coming back to life annd he couldn't come back to life, so he's now an angry orange mac & cheese.

[@Chia-Chia-Chi]

I have a feeling Evil Sun brought Eclipse back but idk 🤔😅

[@Cryp-Ko]

Ruin: I can help you! Eclipse: no Eclipse: I need help Ruin: let’s kill him! PLEASE MAKE THEIR FRIENDSHIP WORK… I would love to see Ruin(good ruin) and Eclipse get along and help each other especially after Eclipse knows private info abt Ruin

[@matosarex5882]

I'm glad Moon isn't willing to make the same mistake twice. If Eclipse wants help, he should look for someone whose life he hasn't ruined in the past, the list is short but it's what he gets for being an idiot and a bad person.

[@mamakaroti3520]

The only person I can think of who’s life he hasn’t ruined is either Ruin or Solar, I know Solar won’t, and ruin most likely won’t… maybe Earth? Y know I’m pretty sure that after whoever brought Eclipse back is dead, eclipse is probably going to kill himself, or let moon do it

[@vickit9190]

Eclipse sounds like he wants to go back to being dead. I think I have an idea why. Roxanne's dead brother has this peaceful place he lives in the afterlife. What if Eclipse has one too? As rotten and evil as he is, even HE knows coming back from the dead is unnatural.

[@Mi4..]

That title is wild, again That dude is trying to have a redemption arc after 2 years??? 💀💀

[@Menacingnugget-zn7bm]

KITTY!!!!! I would love to see that Sweetie bear with Tux