Super Bowl 100: The NFL needs to rethink what a stadium looks like | Sports Illustrated

[@scottyv1985]

Only 20 to 30 thousands seats for a Super Bowl stadium.... Yeah ok.

[@ajrichards1190]

They're talking about the function of newer stadiums in the next 20-30 years. Modern stadiums already have other functions and they want to increase the functions for the non-sports fan.

[@Freeebookman]

wolfpackwarriors xxcvhhkl

[@morgannorris3168]

GucciArzola think about what that does to ticket price though

[@128robertmarlowe]

yeah but smaller arena better experience. Look at fenway park

[@masonhall2981]

they said 30-40,000 seats sunk into the ground plus renovating the office towers around it to seat 80,000. for this first stadium like this it'd be ok. everything after though would seat well over 100,000.

[@wesleymodling3457]

Now, stadiums are multi-purpose. The new falcons stadium obviously has the falcons, but it also has the new soccer team, college football at the beginning and end of each season, final fours, concerts, monster jam, etc. It won't be open all of the time, but it will be open a lot.

[@BRAVESllllll1995]

Wesley Modling our football teams need to do what european football teams do. Our way is inefficient

[@evacody1249]

Why let's take Ford Field in Detroit. Yes the people paid for it. So you want to know who owns the Stadium not the team. The people that own it are Detroit/Wayne County. Yeah they want a cut of the ticket sells that's how they get there cut.

[@jakethesnake1366]

Wesley Modling BROTHERHOOD UNITED!!!

[@Cy-Kill_01]

Delain124 and if that happens then the owner will just move the team from Detroit. If you dare to threaten the owners profits they will just leave the town. If they can't have all the money then no one can have the money, that's the way it works.

[@surgeonwhite5267]

Pretty much every stadium in Australia is multi purpose. Always being used for different sports and concerts ect.

[@mojoriden]

the solution to not spending 1 billion? spend 10 billion!

[@samtarin8596]

mojoriden now someone is thinking!

[@JaRa911]

Hell yeah!! Murrica bitches!!

[@justjack9849]

Yeah

[@JoesTheShow]

Stop asking the tax payers to pay for these monstrosities. They never see any of the profits, and you have the audacity to charge them 12 dollars for a beer.

[@OP4Kub]

JoesTheShow They do see the profits, through the boom in the economy. If the stadium wasn't there, then ~80,000 less would be around weekly. That means those people aren't buying food from restaurants, staying in hotels, or spending money, which all stimulate the economy. The people do see the profits, just not directly.

[@Cy-Kill_01]

OP4 Kub the issue is the fact that it's only during football season is when you will theoretically see these gains in the economy. And while you may see a slight profit during that time it won't make a dent in terms the tax costs just to maintain the damn thing. The City owning the stadium means they have to maintain the stadium. It's like hosting the Olympics, great idea at the time and a short term gain, but in the long term it fucks you over big time

[@OP4Kub]

Eli Gulley It doesn't matter that the people are only their for football season. It's not like those hotels and restaurants close when it isn't football season. The jobs are still there, and just because they aren't still benefiting AS much as compared to the football season, they still are benefiting.

[@WVU.STEELERS.CELTICS]

Drew Lowe Wish everyone else would follow.

[@americangiant1003]

They called "seasonal jobs" for a reason OP$. Other than NFL/College Football and every 5-10 years if in regular rotations like the Super Bowl or NCAA Final Four(College Basketball)or College Football Championship game)season most of those employees don't work year round. Its same concept as say Baseball only stadiums or theme parks like 6 flags. In case like Cowboys AT& T Stadium and Mercedes Stadium those mega facilities can work since both the North Texas(Dallas area) and Atlanta are major US cities with huge international airports. However for mid size or smaller NFL cities, a 90,000 seat stadium is dumb and in this age of virtual reality TV/Internet/Smart Phone, dumb.

[@intsoccersuperstar1]

Super Bowl 100: and the Browns still haven't made it to one

[@don14vito]

But they'll have drafted yet another QB and they'll be looking to rebuild. SB 102 will be their year.

[@jordank5957]

And my Bills probably will not have seen the postseason😂😂😭😭

[@theboys1459]

and will have about 102 new qbs

[@Steeleagle302]

intsoccersuperstar1 Tom Brady will throwing touchdowns from a wheel chair.

[@seanflipflop2887]

THEY MISSED UT THEN, NFL IS DEAD... A LIBERAL TRASH HEAP...

[@therealhuttertube]

all stadium should be privately financial

[@MattSmith-iq1ld]

One of the reasons why the SF Giants fans fill AT&T Park every single night despite a losing season. Stadium was entirely privately financed by the SF Giants baseball organization. Same is true with the new Golden State Warriors arena that being built just down the road from A&T Park. Privately financed.

[@0fficialdregs]

the more the better

[@rockvilleraven]

Matt Smith Abe Pollin built both the Capital Center in Landover and the Capital One Arena in downtown Washington with private financing.

[@heavyizthacrown-5842]

Luke Ross WHY FINANCE PRIVATELY WHEN YOU CAN DEMAND PUBLIC FUNDING BY THREATENING TO MOVE THE TEAM!? YOU'RE A MORON.

[@Huna98]

"We want the stadiums to be multipurpose" St. Louis: Ok here is a dome for the Rams that can also do concerts, March Madness, Monster Truck events, conventions and more! "No not like that"

[@yalar47]

Davis Winn that stadium sucks bruh

[@slwfiguresnetwork]

@@yalar47 tell that to wwe bc they’re hosting the rumble there

[@backwoodshunter.2439]

Football stadiums are already used for many events.. I live in Colorado and Sports Authority Field has events all year. Obviously we have the Broncos, but we also have the Outlaws (lacrosse), college football games, and high school football playoffs. Also, there are concerts played there almost every week during the summer.

[@5baseball379]

I absolutely hate the whole idea. And I think a lot of people will agree

[@TheSteve1126]

Aaron Archuletta because if you can't draw more than 30,000 people you don't deserve a team

[@Craig-bo5fl]

Derek Vandyke Stadiums should hold at least 1 million people at a time

[@joefather2463]

Derek Vandyke i like the concept but i feel like theres no way to get it to work with so much less seats

[@Craig-bo5fl]

Mustache Cash Dash you make it 10 stories high but you make them long as hell. 250k on each side minimum so 25,000 vertically. Dubai is already building 1

[@jasonvaccaro96]

Stephano Dubai will never have a Superbowl or sport play in that stadium a waste of money.

[@airzone2332]

Oh well looks like the avg Joe won't be going to the games anymore.

[@sodaking6858]

Greg Clarke its sad tho more and more only elites can afford to go to games and packers season tickets people have been on the waiting list their whole life's in their 30s lterallyt when a baby is born in green bay their parents automatically put them on the season ticket list so maybe one day on their kids 30s they can get the season ticket

[@QuadinarosLS]

Stop bullshitting. You can get tickets on the secondary market for dirt cheap.

[@BryonLetterman]

If I could go to a bar or restaurant or some upper walkway and see the game from there, why would I buy a ticket? And a 40k seating capacity is small.

[@QuadinarosLS]

@alfred selle Calls people stupid, misspells "their".

[@jeffc1347]

I live in Orlando where the Amway Center, MLS soccer stadium, and Citrus Bowl were built (with TDT revenues) to dump into downtown and bring revenue to the city. After the games everyone walks straight to their cars and gets the hell out because the 3 complexes were built on the black side of the highway.

[@LuongoTHEmachine]

Freeway overpass is the #1 killer of urban development

[@atonewiththedust]

UCF student here, can confirm

[@xdgaming70]

atonewiththedust makes sense

[@dgilbertson10]

@@LuongoTHEmachine can confirm, green bay has so many that if you want to travel even a mile into town, it would have to be by car.

[@groverbarham2574]

this is exactly what the Baltimore Orioles did with Camden Yards, they integrated Oriole Park into Downtown Baltimore. Built restaurants and tourist attractions near it. It is the best stadium in the MLB

[@joefuckingflacco11tds-0int4]

This is what Baltimore is great at. Architecture. The stadium blends in with the rowhouses nearby for the natural feel and has easy access to the light rail to take you further into the city. Much better than Memorial Stadium I agree that Camden yards is better than even Fenway

[@robertbytyqi8877]

Grover Barham too bad Baltimore a shithole

[@geebee6010]

PNC Park is

[@nickstrong7261]

Grover Barham i go all the time....I live in cecil county maryland ahich is very close so i go to football and baseba games 😄😄

[@rushore1]

That's not exactly what they are referring to. Many stadiums are built around shopping and night life (or vice versa). They are referring to the stadium itself. When you shop and eat on non-game days in Baltimore, you use the area AROUND the stadium. These guys are trying to make the shopping and restaurants part of the stadium itself so that the people who actually own the stadium can be part of the profits to make it more worth building a billion dollar structure.

[@ccfilms_co]

My whole life as I would sit in Arrowhead Stadium watching my beloved Chiefs I always thought to myself, "Man, you know what would make this experience so much better? If I could bring my private yacht into the stadium with me" Thank you populous and Sports Illustrated, now I know I will not have to wait much longer.

[@benhahn7105]

Plus if it's integrated into the city where would you tailgate

[@colt-one]

Exactly. This is purely the ideology of urbanist twats. They despise cars, and obsessively use the term "suburban" as derision. "Density" and "Walkable" is always their mantra. Not everyone wants to fucking walk for everything.

[@CharlieND]

Tailgates are for morons

[@1911FanBoi]

They don’t like tailgating because it eats into their profits. No pun. Why would we spend money on food and beer when I can do it in the parking lot. Tailgating is organic and forcing commercialization and consumerism on fans is not.

[@GRITBONE]

@@CharlieND you are for morons.

[@4Paczjkor]

colt one urban planners wants every city to be like New York or San Francisco so it can attract the young working millennials who are looking for jobs in those areas.

[@barackobama9272]

I’ve started to see this in my hometown. The Columbia Fireflies (Low-A Mets team) play here in a new stadium that was built just a few years ago. It is open to the public when there aren’t games going on - plus it has offices for other businesses within the stadium, conference rooms, hosts concerts, special events, and space that shops/restaurants can rent out. It’s also a pretty nice place to see a baseball game for cheap (although the baseball isn’t the best being Low-A haha)

[@the3rdid485]

Two events a year? Do they realize how many hundreds of baseball games there are a year? That's just ONE sport.

[@Acquiredammunity]

Patriots Gillette Stadium has already done some of these adds, the integrated an entire shopping center and hotels around it and im sure it will expand​ to more stores and more apartments/lofts in the future.but no....no one is dumb enough to build a SB venue that will only house 30,000 fans tops, wtf.....

[@no_bitches0621]

acquired immunity the NFL is becoming pathetic in seating. Max of maybe thirty thousand in new stadiums. But then look at college. 105,000 SEATS! Pathetic! The NFL needs to build stadiums with college like seating! Forty thousand compared to 105,000 is pathetic, I'm sorry, but it is true.

[@vaughnshinkus4178]

What? The largest NFL stadiums hold 80,000 plus standing room!

[@likepie321]

colleges also use bench seating to squish more people in the same spot and they are usually not as high end as NFL stadiums.

[@americangiant1003]

Or how about in smaller or mid market/cities 50-60K and if they in mix to host a super bowl and FIFA World Cup game expand by 5,000-10,000 to 70k?

[@no_bitches0621]

AmericanGiant100 there are big nfl stadiums, but they are the older ones. Lucas Oil Field sits 70,000. Soilder Field is really old, and seats at least 80,000. Lambaeu is old and sits 70,000.

[@tonyvang9810]

AT&T, U.S. Bank and now Mercedes Benz Stadium... All are massive and cost over a billion dollars so they're thinking is invalid really.

[@americangiant1003]

i never understood why Jerry Jones renamed the fairly new Cowboys Stadium(that was a great name IMO)for AT&T stadium? There already 2 major sporting facilities in America called AT&T. SF Giants Ballpark and the Spurs fairly new AT&T arena?

[@aaronahmed262]

AmericanGiant100 because at and t is a major sponsor for the cowboys and they paid to have their name on the stadium. Jerry just wants more miney

[@ambrizfer7898]

Tony Vang also the Vikings staduin cost less then a billion and it looks nice as fuck

[@americangiant1003]

And King keep in mind the Twin Cities real estate is much cheaper than say much of the bigger US cities and regions. Talking about of course NYC/North NJ (Giants and Jets), Dallas/Ft. Worth (The Cowboys current stadium in Arlington, texas)the SF Bay area(49ers) and in a couple of years the new Rams/Chargers stadium in LA (Inglewood.) I do agree that some of these newer NFL stadiums built since around 2004, did not need all of the extra fancy bells and whistles that added at least tens of millions to the cost.

[@0fficialdregs]

dont forget Chicago where the real estate is very tight.

[@mattmalloy1001]

what a pathetic idea. whats the point in this? 20-30 thousand seats? how stupid

[@nicholaspesch5086]

Tell that to the Chargers

[@morgannorris3168]

Nicholas Pesch the Chargers rent doing it by choice. Moment they can they r moving to the giant Inglewood stadium

[@Craig-bo5fl]

Matt Malloy DUBAI MAKING A BASKETBALL STADIUM THAT CAN HOLD 1 MILLIOK PEOPLE

[@FordFalcon1962nBlue]

^ do they put 3 people per seat and have people stacked on top? lol

[@JRMoney94]

FordFalcon1962nBlue What a stupid question

[@MrBurgundy76]

I like the idea of a stadium being integrated with the surrounding area. I'd imagine no owner would want a 20-30 thousand seat stadium ever though.

[@clude9897]

Ok I like the idea of adapting the Stadium so that it's better for the whole community and not just the team, but don't compromise the stadium itself so that a KFC can sit above it, especially if it only seats 20,000

[@warsawpacked418]

Malls are dead and the NFL is dying. Oh I got an idea, let's combine malls and stadiums! LOL

[@dissinfo6358]

Most cities also have downtown areas that are dying or dead. Too many condos all over the place. They know it's dying; just trying to grab as much tax money as possible before RIP. Corporate welfare at it's finest.

[@IaHarbour]

AKA the Hartford Civic Center. It was literally an arena in a mall

[@portona2625]

The nfl is never going to die.. It is becoming a lot less popular I will give you that but the amount of money they are asking for these stadiums is ridiculous and meanwhile that tax payer money could be put to WAY better use like getting kids new school books not ones that are 20-40 years old or supplies stuff that benefits the community in the long run.

[@prilljazzatlanta5070]

Ia •_• still have my whalers gear

[@elhamburgo6256]

It just pisses me off that Real Madrid wants to bring this idea into football…Football stadiums should be made for football fans and not for shopping queens. The same counts for any other sports facilities.

[@troygaunt6773]

Interesting video. My question is that the architects don't seem to figure the massive security risks that these open square, open public stadiums would have into the equation.

[@c3s4r612mx]

Lol all the stadiums & arenas in Minnesota are already doing this. Except MNUFC but atleast they’re building it on a major street with well known restaurants around it & not to far from DinkyTown.

[@FirstClassCitizen_]

I think a majority of the people and the comments here are ignorant to the overall economic burdens that fall on the local taxpayers who fund new stadiums. Different stadiums will of course have different circumstances (i.e. is the stadium downtown or near populated areas with local restaurants/bars?) but will the economic impact eventually repay its investment? The average cost of the last three mega stadiums (US Bank Stadium/AT&T Stadium/Mercedes-Benz Stadium) all hover around the $1 Billion mark give or take. Annual maintenance costs in the millions easily...Think about that for a second. Tax payers probably fork over a decent percentage: maybe half or so. With a sport that plays 10 games a season (2 pre-season games included - not including playoffs) and a dozen or so concerts maybe annually, it could easily take multiple decades at the point to probably break even. All you can hope for is that your team is a playoff team and Super Bowl contender to help ease that burden. It's been widely covered for sometime now that mega stadiums are financial/investment losers for everyone except for the NFL and the team owners.

[@Byronic19134]

First Class Citizen The makers of the article are ignorant to economics. Basic economics states you don't invest to build somethinf that wont return the investment. More then juat football games are held in a stadium as concerts and other events are too therefore its used year round as a revenue source.

[@FirstClassCitizen_]

Vincent Salamatino yeah I get you. Show me a pro football stadium that has a major event week in and week out outside of football season and I'll buy your argument

[@ajrichards1190]

The 3 stadiums you mentioned are in markets that needed to upgrade their stadium. Atlanta in one end invested in a new baseball stadium, renovating the basketball arena, and converted the old Turner field to Georgia State football stadiums. Cities that invest in stadiums improve the overall city. Denver is one example transforming its downtown after building Coors field, Pepsi Arena, and the current Bronco stadium. Metropolis areas are high markets and a lot of business and tourism is done in those areas. Now for mid to small market NFL teams, $1 billion dollar stadium wouldn't be a good investment. Buffalo Bills is due for a new stadium and probably move to a vacant market (St Louis, San Diego, Oakland, Orlando) to have there stadium built.

[@MichaelBrown-rg8oi]

You're acting like the city doesn't have a choice in this matter lol

[@FirstClassCitizen_]

I fail to see how you came to that conclusion. They do have a choice. No city ever wants to lose a sports franchise for many various reasons. Think of all the teams in the past few decades and have moved to another city. It usually always comes down to stadium economics (either massive renovations or a new stadium). In some cases, city councilmen will not even let a proposal come forward to let the voters choose because they see economic downfall. That leaves teams with a door open (after the fulfillment of their contract terms) to move to another city. CASE IN POINT: the recent moves from the Rams, Chargers, and soon to be Raiders were all in the same situation. Their respective cities (St. Louis, San Diego and Oakland) didn't want to help build a new stadium combined with lackluster support from the community gave way to these franchises looking for new homes.

[@drakeunverferth1776]

4 years ago: I don't think the Rams will be able to stay because they don't have a stadium. Now: They're making a huge ass stadium with a jumbotron around the stadium!

[@Eric-jb1ym]

Haha did you see the stands for the LaC and LaR games in week 1? Pathetic. LA didn't even want one team let alone two.

[@thesharpearthproject6098]

The Green Bay Packers has restaurants allaying it, and even has an outdoor ice skating rink and a man made snow hill for the winter. It's so awesome!!!

[@Rajesh-so9kx]

FIFA should do this, it will be great for countries like Brazil and SA who economically affected after building these big stadiums

[@Mrmidtown1]

Abu Dhabi has something like this to support their F1 area - it's a whole neighborhood surrounding the track, used year round by tourists and residents, bars, restaurants, beaches.

[@bluesboiler510]

Integrating stadiums into a public place is a great concept but too much accessibility may open up to vulnerability to heinous/violence acts.

[@wdfcuk5428]

Come to Toronto folks!!! A little less futuristic, but really a walk for MLB, NHL, CFL, Toronto FC, bars, plays, parks. This was a random vid I found myself watching and now have a new appreciation for my city!!

[@carlfromtheoc1788]

There is another way to reduce the foot print of a stadium - build it underground. Underground parking and huge concourses to get people to and from the stadium, while above can be parks and green belts with mixed use buildings. Just a crazy idea.

[@fredericknunez2035]

Atlanta got 2 stadiums in 1 yr, Mercedes-Benz Stadium for $1.6 billion and Suntrust Park for $1.1 billion.

[@AT2Productions]

Here's the thing, this idea was attempted previously in Hartford, CT - Originally known as the Civic Center, it's now the XL Center. There are multiple entrances from a shopping mall that's seen less foot traffic over the years.

[@mihatoplisek2803]

Just a suggestion: look at Munich 1972 Olimpic arena. It is beautifully integrated in a public park. If you abandon the idea of privatization, the stadium becomes integrated and woven into the city. But, good luck, USA.

[@johncerutti3940]

Just simplify it, in dallas they have so much to do in the stadium they forget to watch the game, but in new york the place is like a parking garage but you focus on the game

[@michaelcoxfitness6089]

Sounds like taxer payer money to pay for rich people apartments and businesses. The restaurant, bar and shopping is terrible. These stores will be flooded with people

[@isaz597]

I love how it took so many people to "think up" this idea when the Roman's had coliseums that actually were like this

[@inspirationalquote3645]

Levis stadium was ahead of it's time. The heat and sun issue makes it so only 20-30 thousand of its seats are usable.

[@e.p.4343]

And we all know at this rate Tom Brady is going to be the Super Bowl 100 MVP.

[@davesteven2409]

Ethan P. 😂🐐

[@T-Rex-nm1se]

tom brady gonna be holding a cane by the time of super bowl 100

[@lutherd]

Sounds like they're describing Little Caesar's Arena in Detroit ("part of the downtown community," "bars and restaurants open on other days of the week [not just gameday]," "a walkable public square"). Talk about a venue integrated into the community, LCA is the first in the new wave of venues.

[@davidbentley4417]

David L. Or suntrust park

[@evacody1249]

And guess who the owners are Downtown Development Authority. In other words the City owns it.

[@utrocks97]

Who else loves the classic college football stadiums? Michigan, The Rose bowl, Neyland Stadium, Tiger Stadium, the LA Colosseum, Happy Valley, and many more. Just pure 100,000 fans sitting side by side not distracted by anything. Just pure football and family of fans around you. That’s what we need

[@MrTB38]

The problem with this concept of restaurants and office buildings surrounding the field is that you are discouraging people from buying tickets to see the actual game. All these different entertainment venues like clubs and restaurants need to be inside the stadium. Essentially people always need to buy tickets for the game. You cannot simply sit in your office building and watch the game.

[@lukekuykendall6366]

In St. Louis after the financial collapse in 2008, funding ran out for the proposed "Ballpark Village" that was to create a downtown urban center not dissimilar to what is discussed in this video. Now 12 years after the park opened in 2006, we have a Ballpark Village...well, sort of. The project for total immersion has been broken into phases, and there are several phases left before its completed. When completed, the parking space that currently occupies the location of the former stadium will be high rise condos, entertainment venues, shopping centers, etc. The biggest problem the city is facing? Well....no one wants to go downtown, unless its to see the Cardinals, then its back to the safe and sound suburbs. People in general, just don't feel safe downtown. Most people will tell you, after a game, you don't want to stick around.

[@larrymiller4]

If you can integrate football, baseball, basketball, soccer, etc., and have the venue look and function like it was meant to be used for each purpose, using modular seating, movable stands, etc. -- you've got it made. It doesn't have to look like the Taj Mahal. Function is more important. It can look industrial, it can look basic, but the form must follow function.

[@jorgeofthejungle4450]

The no roof thing is an issue, yeah some teams play with rain and all but the super bowl will best be played in an indoor arena in which weather cannot affect the game...

[@evanloken19]

Guy that starts talking at 2:14 sounds like Sheldon Cooper

[@T-Rex-nm1se]

you know tom brady is gonna play in super bowl 100 and he's going to be the MVP but he's gonna play while riding a wheelchair, , let that sink in

[@Jay-ku3ur]

What you need is a stadium that doesn't only cater to 8 home NFL games per year... And 10-15 concerts per year. It has to be used by as many events as possible... Colleges, High Schools, and many other events could all be housed there, ALL THE TIME.

[@hockeyguy2005]

i like the sunken stadium, if you could layer rows like the field in arizona, the whole field is retractable, if tbere is a way to do a retractable top covering the stadium underneath, yet still being able to use the surface area when its covered it could work.. but only if theres a way to seat 80, 000

[@agilagilsen8714]

If they could make the stadium.. If not less expensive but at least more profitability, it might be a good idea. But the thought of 20-40k seats is stupid. They would need to figure out how to make it perhaps a 40k stadium that has the ability to turn into a 80k stadium when needed that is a more viable option as far as I see it.

[@samtarin8596]

John Edvards honestly I think stadiums should just start at 100k plus now...

[@fundacherry4904]

Little ceasers arena in downtown detroit is a mall open 7 days a week, ive been there a few times even tho i havent seen a redwings or pistons game

[@Vincetagram]

Lol the way that guy thinks about a stadium that is the town reminds me of the Monaco GP, road course for a weekend, city streets and exotic car hub of the world for the rest of the year.

[@georgiosathanasiou3985]

You guys talk about NFL stadiums etc and at 01:40 there's a video of the concept of the new AS ROMA stadium. A team that plays football (soccer) in Rome, in Italy..

[@alexkozlowski]

If you want every city to have a 20-30k capacity stadium, American football needs to have a serious look at adding Promotion/ Relegation like soccer in Europe. The FA is in charge of teams all the way down to the local park Sunday league team. The NFL wont lose their power, and they get to make more money from it. It'd be a great way to mesh the semi pro teams to the pro teams so they aren't so focused on the draft/ college aspect.

[@eatsleepdrumrepeat375]

Actually Mercedes Benz stadium is always open to people that pay for a tour of the whole thing

[@sorengiles8840]

That’s true for almost every stadium

[@Sectario01]

My favorites stadiums are: AT&T Park AT&T stadium Clandestick Park Met-Life stadium Yankee stadium

[@mateofilm3979]

This poses an incredible security risk

[@BamaNick]

I like how they are saying 20 - 30 thousand seats but Alabama football games sell out almost every time in a 100,000+ stadium

[@Chris-qw8bn]

This concept sounds a lot like what they tried with Little Caesars Arena in Detroit. Very cool.

[@homiefromfl]

The answer is simple: Stadiums, and teams, need to make money off tickets for each seat. Having that "ring" of shops, buildings, offices, restaurants, etc., all within viewing distance of a field will likely diminish the sales of a ticket for a football game. And only 20,000 seats? 30,000 seats?? Yeah, ok...

[@westwalk9953]

Perth stadium (optus stadium) best stadium in the world , bars,parkland,casino,river all bear by . 60K seats ,opened this year

[@ereyla]

Since this video it's interesting to see how the plan for LASED is integrated into Los Angeles. Nearly on point exact.

[@patrickbolin6569]

Or get an iconic fan base and team with roots sewn deep into the area and you don't need this garbage. Look at Green Bay. People travel across the world to see it. 30000 seats? This is garbage. It's quality you want I agree. But the fans are flipping the bill here I'm pretty sure any fan would take seating over some burger joints.

[@WarButt]

I’m probably just confused. If you have a stadium in the middle of that area and it’s all open to the public all week and you’re at let’s say a mall or whatever and you can easily watch the game from there and it’s a great view and everything. How do ticket sales work? Would I have to pay just to enter that town-esq place?

[@derrickmax1633]

I LOVE THE BIG PACKED STADIUMS ALL YEAR ROUND

[@ctbt1832]

5:20 great idea

[@rp740il]

As much as NFL stadiums cost and how big they are its crazy that alot of college football stadiums have more seating capacity then NFL stadiums.

[@elhamburgo6256]

I love that about the Parken Stadium in Copenhagen. It’s not that big but it’s modern and nearby downtown Copenhagen, next to a park where you can relax and drink your beer before the football (you’d probably call it „soccer“) game and there’s also a pub built into the stadium! Lot’s of bars and restaurants are in the area! So lovely! But I don’t need to come to the stadium by ship. And I don’t need shops in a stadium except it is a fanshop. Football should still be football. American football should still be american football. Baseball should still be baseball.

[@ramsicle]

The biggest challenge is turning 100-80 thousand seats into a more productive usage of space on a daily basis. My idea would be to have 8 to 10 platforms in a ring. Each platform would have retractable seating similar to school gym seats but maybe better. After game day all seating gets pushed back into the walls and you are left with 8 rings of empty platforms, which are big enough for portable store owners similar to market day shops come in and set up shop. You could have 2 days for fruit market 2 days for anything else and one day for international eat day. OK sorted!

[@swerdna1970]

5.43 is the Melbourne Cricket Ground circa 1854. NFL has a lot of demand for huge oval playing fields with cricket pitches in the middle?

[@flyhalfjack]

Take a look at the safe standing model used in Germany. Would be great for increasing attendance.

[@swerdna1970]

A "gathering place and central social place for people to come again"? So make them free to enter and use. Like a park.

[@zacharyharriss3063]

look at Oriole Park at Camden Yards the stadium that changed baseball

[@Akhiii_]

Literally Little Caesars Arena in Detroit, it has become part of the city environment (You know what i mean) rather than being a disconnected arena.

[@tonydecurtins8626]

Us bank stadium is down town Minneapolis. Really great spot!

[@jonathanpusar5931]

This is not a new concept and was a discussed topic in my Urban Planning classes when I was in college 10 years ago. In fact, it was a major part of a proposal to move the Buffalo Bills to downtown and create a downtown hub for commerce, food, drink, etc... Problem with urban planning and these concepts is it's not steeped in reality. The NFL plays only 8 games at home per year. There's simply not enough realizable value to justify any kind of stadium that would recoup the expense, let alone creating an entertainment hub for those 8 games. Downtowns already have food and drink. The cost for creating new stadiums just do not justify any kind of business increase except possibly Baseball.

[@dylanherrick2981]

These people always make stupid ideas

[@tbirdpunk]

You. You're stupid. Now stop asking dumb questions.

[@arjunb8615]

tbirdpunk Why? Why are they dumb? They just wanted an answer...

[@TheBacknblack92]

Dylan Herrick this video is an ad for the company populous. That's how advertisers do things nowadays because people dislike knowing they're being advertised to directly. It's called gurellia advertisement, they get publications like SI to create shit like this parading as real content. Theyre trying to generate interest in the firm with videos like this so they can hopefully get more contracts. The idea itself is awful and the nfl wouldn't go for it at all. If they're at the point where theyre forced to make drastic cuts to everything that they have to start building these then the game itself would be in a terrible situation and theyd have bigger problems than building a new stadium 1) if they have money and political pull not to build these then they wont because they dont want to 2) if theyre hurting in terms of money and political pull so much that they have to build one of these (if they wanted a new stadium) then cutbacks and penny pinching would just have the franchise suck it up and keep playing in their old stadium You build a stadium when you have a lot of excess money. You build this type of stadium when you're hurting for money. If you're hurting for money then building a stadium is far down your list on what should be done The people who made this video know this, but they basically got you to watch a 6 min ad for an architecture firm

[@bjorge1896]

They have done this in Monte Carlo for the Monaco Grand Prix for many years, so it is possible.

[@wingmanalive]

By the time SB 100 comes around, tickets for the game will cost more than your house today. You think I'm exaggerating but I'm not. In 1967 tickets cost $10. Last year they were $2500+. In 50 years (if the league still exists) players will be making $100 million a game and stadiums will cost more than the annual budget of some countries. Colin will still be watching from home.

[@saulpineda2432]

And the new Banc of California Stadium for the LAFC had these exact concepts built in!

[@ghostdukevladamir5101]

Ye-es but this think about security. There still needs to be boundaries and guarded entrances because someone could sneak a bomb in during non game time and have it go off in a crowd packed full of people. Also, this doesn't work so easily for mlb during the onseason because each stadium has 81 games a year not 8 like an nfl season. And that's not counting playoff games. Yes I think that the stadium should be a social area outside of game time and that there should be other reasons to enter the stadium but it still needs to be somewhat separate. Full integration isn't the best solution here.

[@goldenarm009]

that sunken stadium idea is brilliant

[@thecasualcaribou]

This is why I partly respect soccer leagues in Europe. You don't need a fancy stadium to cheer for your team.

[@LilSnikrz]

I've watched this sooo many time

[@Jay-ku3ur]

They highlight the horse race where only about 400 people right on the edges can even see the event... LOL

[@danieldougan269]

Maybe someone can start by figuring out a way to make a stadium that functions WELL for baseball and football. I know the trend has been to go away from that because the old multi-purpose stadiums were terrible, but there has to be a better way.

[@waters117]

sounds like a security nightmare. Some dude ramps a semi truck down onto the stadium section and kills 40 people. The concept is nice though.

[@LorenzoMarch]

Birmingham, AL would be a great market for this theory

[@CurtisDensmore1]

It sucks when they shut down the street for a gran prix or a parade. The stadium provides value to the city by not clogging public spaces.

[@aidanseals8368]

I don’t see how security could be properly put in place if the stadium is entirely open to the public

[@nicksacco5041]

Everyone knows Super Bowl 100 will be played either on the moon or a planet

[@joshbussineau1491]

Nick Sacco Yeah no duh, it'll be played on Earth, which is a planet....

[@TheBacknblack92]

Nick Sacco super bowl 100 wont be played. The league would've folded by then due to declining viewer numbers and a drastically reduced talent pool because no parent with half a brain would let their kids play football A study out of BC found that, of 111 nfl players brains examined, 110 showed signs of CTE. Nooope, no amount of money is worth giving yourself possible brain damage.

[@GamingCentral80]

Stopreadingmyusername Exactly, someone gets it.

[@markrichter6643]

Stopreadingmyusername um it's fun dumbass and you have a chance to make millions, I'd rather have a chance at brain damage and be loaded for life than not, plus it's fun

[@markrichter6643]

Stopreadingmyusername and their will be lots of talent since smart parents want their children to have fun and make money doing what they enjoy

[@ms.felonystrutter2472]

I an a lifer Cowboys fan, our stadium is everything you would want a stadium to be...it is immaculate, that being said, no stadium will never be better than Texas Stadium 1971-2008. Why? Because Coach Landry walked the sidelines, Roger, Lilly, Waters, Bates, Aikman, etc played there. In fact Texas Stadium was so visionary our stadium and others are still copying off it.

[@nolanbrown6201]

there need to be more than 75K seats, and no one will do this because it makes it so much easier to watch a game live without a ticket

[@nateallen9293]

This has been tried where I live in Glendale, AZ with the Coyotes and the Westgate entertainment district. It’s been a massive failure and a financial disaster for the city.

[@alejandroaguirre3191]

5:22 good idea but wouldn’t work because nfl, mlb, premier league wouldn’t want people to watch the game live without paying to see it

[@taitrief]

Excellent ideas!!

[@ThurstonWatt]

Architects and "stadium designers" are some of the most self-important people on earth. WE THE FANS DO NOT CARE ABOUT BARS AND RESTAURANTS. We want history - we want to support our teams at the same stadiums our fathers supported them in. We want to tailgate, and we want to foster the love of supporting our team within the minds of our children. Fuck your multi-purpose monstrosities. THIS is why stadiums cost over $1 billion to build in the modern era - this unimportant bullshit.