hoping this is helpful to someone looking for a solution for a seemingly impossible transition from 1 piece garage door to panel door.
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@rijosigns3 жыл бұрын
very well done bud 25 years here in resi and commercial. this id the best viedo i have seen in a real low headroom situation well done ...clap clap clap.cheers well done.
@jakecrayne51203 жыл бұрын
thank you very much
@bigpermsgarage62902 жыл бұрын
Double low head room, rear mount torsion set up. I installed many of those over the years. I love your opener solution.
@user-ww8ko9ym6q6 ай бұрын
Love Grandfathers that just think it through and make it happen. Some rubbed off onto my dad and I think I got some of that wisdom as well. That's why I'm here. Totally new area for me, but, gotta get it done.
@datsfamily48864 жыл бұрын
I want to say thank you so much for this video! Afyer my husband and I worked at ot for like 10 hours lmao I came across this video! You saved us from having to return out door opener and possibly not having a door opener at all! Your concept worked perfectly and i cant thank you enough for thinking ouside the box! Awesome job! Awesome video! 5 stars
@MrJammor3 ай бұрын
Dude you are a genius. I have an 89" ceiling and I thought I was not going to be able to do it. Found the super senaky brackets online. Come to Atlanta and put mine in! lol
@a462224 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I found exactly what I needed to see. Really nice job man.
@cc12h22w3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome job Your grandpa is a good solving problems guy , he extended the steel lifting cables and extended the linkage with the door with a square bar , very professional done . I am mechanical Engineer and that is one of the job I consider " one of the kind job" to fix your garage door problem. Congratulations it was AWESOME
@JacquelynWeitz4 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness, thank you so much for thinking of this and sharing it. My contractor got to the end of my garage project and broke the news to me that I would not be able to have an automatic garage door opener because there was not enough clearance .... Then my mom found your video. My contractor followed your instructions and it saved me from having to get out of my car with my two-year-old daughter inside EVERY time I go into or out of the garage... For our safety and convenience, thank you.
@jakecrayne51204 жыл бұрын
so awesome to hear! great work. glad to help
@martyk465611 ай бұрын
Thank your grandpa for me. Just did this for my Vietnam Vet uncle. He was told by local contractors he could not have his opener installed due to low clearance. He lives on an island in Lake Michigan. I visited him and installed it in a day, like yours. 👍👍👍
@SandlGetIt5 ай бұрын
I like the way you did that. I have a 7ft garage door with a 10ft ceiling and a lifted truck that wont fit. I'm in the process of raising the header to probably 9ft. Then use a jackshaft opener and 24 or 30 radius curves to have the door ride along the ceiling. Everyone tells me its not possible and its gonna be a waste of money to Mcguyver it together. I think buying the parts you need instead of a kit thats going to need to be modified will be cheaper.
@jstriker6234 жыл бұрын
That's the most impressive setup I've ever seen.
@pales24252 жыл бұрын
I just received another "no" from a garage door professional because of low headroom, so this video gives me hope that I can electrify mine this summer myself. You really did a beautiful job!
@jakecrayne51202 жыл бұрын
you can do it! nothing that cant be handled with some common sense and determination
@hellsurfer8499 Жыл бұрын
This video was inspirational! I had to work a little further out of your box, but it worked amazingly. Thank you Grandfather for the hinge idea. It worked perfectly!!
@petrol114 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank you for this! Car-Wal in Ontario refuse to talk about this method, they just want to sell me an overpriced build-down system where i lose 9 inches of door clearance. Thankfully managed to find someone eventually that will install this way. Thanks to your grandfather too!
@jakecrayne51204 жыл бұрын
awesome, glad this helped! my local garage door supplier was extremely unhelpful as well
@FromSteelToWood4 жыл бұрын
Ingenious! Clever! Brilliant! I am glad I came accross your video. I have same situation with my garage door, where the top pannel is mounted on a hinged wheel holder. Then the clearance is within 1/4'' like you. I was hoping to use a door opener, but could not figure how. Now I know how! Thanks for sharing!
@andrewdenine16854 жыл бұрын
Rite on bud this fixes my problem. Tell your grandfather thank you very much you should.patton this. I was installing a 16' wide door this was a garrage package and the company really didn't have a clue what they were doing. This is a great fix for this common problem
@tylerd58003 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. I just installed a door opener today and ran into this issue and my dad found your video so we did what you did and works great. Well done.
@jakecrayne51203 жыл бұрын
im just glad it helped you out!
@outtadebox1877 Жыл бұрын
Your grandfather sounds like a smart guy. I may have to use this idea. Thanks very much.
@charleslewis2053 жыл бұрын
Good evening. I just wanted to comment and say this also is exactly what I needed. I really don't know whether I can accomplish this big project but it is great to see that it can be done. My other option is for Carriage swing doors that are on there now but I might give this a try. So once again thank you for this video. It is the most creative and detail how to video that I have ever seen. Have a blessed night!!!
@ericgarr33314 жыл бұрын
I'm doing this this weekend! Shame on the garage door industry for not finding a solution to garage doors like this.
@L35inColorado4 жыл бұрын
Great job, buddy! That solution with the rail is ingenious.
@heroknaderi4 жыл бұрын
There’s always a way to make a garage door automatically open I love that idea as long as it works then we can enjoy using it 😁👍 very nicely done ✅
@dolphincliffs8864 Жыл бұрын
I love the whole install! Seen lots of this because I have been doing doors for 22 years now. Excellent!
@NBSTL68 Жыл бұрын
Wish I'd seen this sooner! Just got our "low headroom" garage door and rails delivered and the rails have 2 tracks on them?? Pretty sure the definition of "low headroom" for us was confused as an installer said "low headroom" kit will actually make the garage door final height when open LOWER and not higher up close to the ceiling like we wanted...Oh, and he thought it will cost us another $1k+ for new rails + $1k for the install?! Still working through what options we have w the existing double rail kit. We are not even doing an opener and he said the door will be heavier to open than a standard kit. What a mess. Thanks for the video though as it gives me a place to start now I know it is possible.
@jakecrayne5120 Жыл бұрын
Yeah i made the same mistake, and got the 2 rail kit for low headroom. i ended up using them, but i just utilize the rounded track (lower one) and use the super sneaky brackets.
@cyrilmitchell49432 жыл бұрын
Your video helped me out greatly in setting up my garage opener. I as well have low headroom in my garage. Your grandfather is a genius! Your explanations great!
@chamberlainliftmasterfan-25215 жыл бұрын
That’s the longest door arm I’ve ever seen lol
@Drone9533 жыл бұрын
Hi Jake, thanks for sharing I ran into the same issue today l, saw your video and I was relieved 😌 Props from Toronto Canada 🇨🇦
@jagzigian Жыл бұрын
Same exact situation I’m dealing with right now. Thank you for showing me the light.
@Msleelee948724 күн бұрын
You give me hope I can get a door after 38 yrs in my house I don’t feel safe and just want my cars and lawn equipment secured I think my height might be 8 or 7 ft tall and I have 2 cars in the garage now I have to find someone to do it 😳
@CH-oz3li8 ай бұрын
Just did this on a 15 wide x 10 foot tall door. It works great! Tanks for the the idea
@DW_Kiwi2 жыл бұрын
Well, You have a great Grandad. I'm a grandad as well and I need to solve my problem (no Headroom) too. Thanks for the info.
@brettvought57602 жыл бұрын
Thats a bad ass setup. Nice work. Definitely gave me some solutions to my problems. No where near as tight but I'm still hitting rafters with the new garage door since it's a single track.
@ikenosis81607 ай бұрын
Very well done. Great work. I am about to do an install that isn't much different and this video helped me a lot. Thanks for posting.
@stevenberkel83373 жыл бұрын
Not only is it rear torsion, it also looks like a reversed torsion as well. Meaning, winding a righthand wound spring backwards. Only makes sense with the reversed torsion bottom brackets & the drums set on the outside of torsion tube. I've done quite the engineering to get doors in like this. Instead of a lengthy J arm extension, I've went up between the rafters with the rail, and only the motor sits flush at ceiling height Great build my friend
@dolphincliffs8864 Жыл бұрын
Inside torsion for lh is what we do
@daviddorr46833 жыл бұрын
Your grandpa is a very intelligent man
@justinmiedema88953 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I needed to see after digging into 2 garage doors very similar. Thank you
@l337pwnage4 жыл бұрын
Extremely slick. Now to go full spectrum on it. ;) Those exposed cables which are parallel to the ground could probably be run inside a conduit, maybe plastic, so when the spring breaks(they all break eventually) or even cable(although it takes both to break on torsion system) breaks, the cable would be somewhat contained from flying everywhere. BTW, I'm diggin' the triangulation on the spring anchor. ;)
@70soundwave3 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty sweet set up. I like how you placed the spring all the way at the back
@stevelyles69813 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. You solved my similar dilemma with an 8-foot door. 👍👍👍
@jakecrayne51203 жыл бұрын
so great to hear! keep up the good work
@scottg9598 Жыл бұрын
awesome video! so little info out there on setups with under 4" of headroom. American ingenuity at its best!
@therealhughleys48722 жыл бұрын
This helped very much thank you!
@BurtBowers3 жыл бұрын
Amazing set up I never seen the drums moved way back interesting..
@edufael3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking exactly what you did would work!! perfect now i can buy my garage door opener! thanks for sharing!
@JonathanMencer4 жыл бұрын
Well done. Thanks for sharing 👍🏼
@troyacummings3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I need to do a far back set up, but I have rafters running parallel to the opener shaft. So I can use the space to put the rail up top. I have to go far back to clear a support beam and low hanging ductwork though. Thanks
@rickdowdin9441 Жыл бұрын
Awesome job! Could you have maybe mounted a jackshaft to the rear torsion? Your grandfather was a visionary type of fella I'm guessing. Ingenious idea. I seen something like that using 2 solid steel chain motor rails working in tandem.
@Mixdplate Жыл бұрын
Impressive! Facing this issue in the garage of the older home I recently purchased. Unfortunately, I don't have the skills needed to make this work and I'm sure if the garage door guy that said "no can do" has the ability to do it, he would triple his price. Maybe I'll look into more of a handyman type of contractor.
@tyclute14544 жыл бұрын
Mind Blown! Wish i saw this a week ago..
@amdg20233 жыл бұрын
Its actually not a torsion bar but we get the point, fantastic solution so cherish that grandpa.
@ericacuna33523 жыл бұрын
Your grandfather is a genius!
@steveatx8295 Жыл бұрын
Helped me Thanks to you and Grandpa!
@JohnnyEla Жыл бұрын
Rear torsion, very fun!!!
@yasserdz52263 жыл бұрын
Man it did help you not just helped me no you saved me seriously , thank you thank you so mush ❤️ , am from africa and i was thinking to start this business here in my country and i start geting informations aaaandddd look at youuu you gives me everything 😄❤️❤️
@DW_Kiwi Жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong. The use of Super Sneakys are a great idea to solve a low headroom problem However, it can cause another problem. That is, a small obstruction (child leg) under the door will maybe cause the opener to not reverse reliably. The top section panel (with the Super Sneakys installed) now has the "downward" back pressure very much reduced from the opener. The opener "pressure" or force is now mostly horizontal, folding the hinge up to close the top section. There is a area where the opener may not sense an obstruction correctly. Because the opener needs to sense the vertical back pressure from an obstruction the safety aspect is contravened. Beware Americans. Blessings from New Zealand
@jakecrayne5120 Жыл бұрын
you are correct! this is a risk i am willing to take and haven't had an issue in the ~4 years i have had this system installed. but i am aware that the auto reverse feature is slightly handicapped so i am a bit more vigilant in double checking before i close the garage
@DW_Kiwi Жыл бұрын
@@jakecrayne5120 Thanks Jake. You are a good guy with a great Grandad
@AS-pk3su3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Thanks so much! You would not believe the problems I am having with garage door installers saying it can't be done. The attitude with them seems to be if they weren't taught it in garage door school, it can't be done. All I need is a person with a brain, not a robot.
@excellinc.99513 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha ha ha
@aeromedical67503 жыл бұрын
That’s impressive. I’ve never understood why a garage would ever be designed with such low headroom. That defeats the purpose of having a garage with the ability to use a garage door opener. All that being said, this is an ingenious solution to what seemed to be an impossible problem.
@jakecrayne51203 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I cant remember why a jackshaft opener wouldnt have worked for me, but im sure it wouldnt have worked in this situation because i remember thinking about it and then writing it off...
@daru2502 жыл бұрын
@@jakecrayne5120 Jackshaft opener are mounted on the shaft of the torsion spring. Since they need some lift low headroom tracks have a quick breakaway and small radius. Garage door folk say they work a bit jerky so your solution is great. Did you cut any of your vertical tracks?
@craiglayters6065 Жыл бұрын
Sir! Wow! You just blew my mind! You're grandpa is awesome!Well done. It looks amazing! Any chance you can show me how you did the cables on the side that is mounted to the torsion bar?
@wfd8053 жыл бұрын
Old school problem solving. I like it.
@Franchise_Consultant_Broker3 жыл бұрын
Creative and well done, Jake!
@DollMJ3 жыл бұрын
It does help someone - that's me - thank you
@gregmooney40902 жыл бұрын
That is pretty slick nice job
@The1Pope2 жыл бұрын
So Jake, when you gonna make a kit for us no-so-savvy DIYers and make yourself a cool million or more? Very nice solution.
@jakecrayne51202 жыл бұрын
you might be onto something Larry!
@joshuadopson2933 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I needed
@skateboardbangerslol6183 Жыл бұрын
Thank you great job very helpful.
@rijosigns3 жыл бұрын
and he got this door in with in 3 inch's very impressive.for a 7 foot high door.
@mollywagner75894 жыл бұрын
Nice job!
@burtrussel1535 Жыл бұрын
That is tier 1 level awesome 👍
@craigzee36522 жыл бұрын
Well done, everyone is telling me it can’t be done
@danieldlynch2 жыл бұрын
Wow good job man.
@uptalk1444 жыл бұрын
Rear torsion is smart. I have a low garage too. I think mine is the same height. Under house garage, ceiling is concrete. I'm thinking of trying the rear torsion setup with a genie 6170 side mount opener. I will try to install it on the ceiling. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. Thanks for the vid.
@jakecrayne51204 жыл бұрын
sounds great. yeah i dont remember why i didnt do a jack shaft (side mount) opener...that should work well with rear torsion. good luck!
@chasegeissler49643 жыл бұрын
@@jakecrayne5120 just curious because I’ve never seen it done before, but could you mount the jack shaft horizontally along the ceiling? Or hang some wood/angle iron and brace it to install vertically?
@jakecrayne51203 жыл бұрын
@@chasegeissler4964 Yes, i definitely thought about doing this. i want to say i needed more clearance to be able to mount the jack shaft opener to the ceiling, but i love the idea of mounting it to the ceiling horizontally if it works in your situation. good luck!
@Fedup107102 жыл бұрын
There is a very good possibility that mounting it like that would cause the cables to jump of the cable drums. Unless the door can drop on its own, you may need some sort of pusher spring mounted in the top track just to give a push to get started. You have to also remember if your using outside cable hookup, the springs are wound in the opposite direction than standard hookup.
@virtualizeeverything2 жыл бұрын
well this is going to help me so much thank you
@Gearhart.2 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea. Thank you
@qiangfu72712 жыл бұрын
Thansk for sharing, super inspiring!
@SP-mp9yi4 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome very clever 👍🏽
@mchandler4823 жыл бұрын
I agree. Genius. Well done.
@kylekageyama4 жыл бұрын
Very nice idea, I have 88”. Now I need some metal.
@kylekageyama4 жыл бұрын
What’s the length of the steel bar? I imagine about 7’ is minimum?
@jakecrayne51204 жыл бұрын
@@kylekageyama mine is exactly 106 inches (just under 9 feet). i guess it should be about the same length as the rail that comes with your opener. probably buy 10 feet to be safe and cut to length after the opener and the door linkage are installed
@kylekageyama4 жыл бұрын
Jake Crayne thanks Jake, I ended up buying 10’ as it was slightly more then 50% the 20’ cost locally. It came out to around $20 for 10’ 1/8”. If I had bought less then 10’ they would have charged extra for cutting and cost would have been $30+. Once I setup the opener I measured and 9’ was about the max distance I could go, so I cut it to 9’ and drilled and mounted all the metal brackets. After some tinkering everything works nicely. Thanks again!
@MatthewSchaller2 жыл бұрын
Nice job.
@serzykzykoff1534 Жыл бұрын
Simply AMAZING!!!
@wharedavis19064 ай бұрын
Ya man"! Totally helpful
@peggycollinslloyd83574 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jake. a very helpful video I have an identical garage and I'm encountering same headroom problem. I was about give up when I found your video. Can you tell me which super sneaky set you used in your install.
@jakecrayne51204 жыл бұрын
www.supersneaky.com/product/super-sneaky-ss-low-overhead-garage-door-hinges/ they were just under $60
@joaocoelho73314 жыл бұрын
Very clever!
@ultimatumparagon3 жыл бұрын
this video solved my problem thanks
@michaelbarrett88035 жыл бұрын
Nice Work!!
@karlybzoulou44504 ай бұрын
Very clever
@garryames18242 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@phongkhotsombath85083 жыл бұрын
Very good job
@thor777mx7 ай бұрын
I looking to see if I can do this at my house. I went and measured my parents 7’ door and the top of the rail measured 91”. How is your less than 87”? Also looking at yours, it has two rails on top? Is that a low head room kit also?
@shannonduensing32513 жыл бұрын
Great job bud 👍 👏
@RichardSalwa4 жыл бұрын
That's slick
@greydentity3 жыл бұрын
Great job! Question. Why did you use a double track system when the upper track isn’t being used? Did the upper track not end up working? I need to do this but want to use regular track. Thanks!
@fernando6514 жыл бұрын
thanks grampa!
@barrycarleton4326 Жыл бұрын
Good video and neat opening door, but my height is 77 inches so not much help to me.
@ImmDanny10 ай бұрын
Hey this is super helpful! I want to add a garage door and enclose my carport, but because of a beam and the roof sloping, I have about 87” as well to work with. My question is, how are the cables routed near the door in order to attach to the door since normally those pulleys are mounted directly above the door rather than put back behind the door if that makes sense. Also is that just a bracket/strut you are using to mount the track or is it a double track? Hard to tell in the video. Thank you again for this! Super helpful in figuring out how to do mine.
@jakecrayne512010 ай бұрын
it is a double track but i dont even use one of the tracks. i ordered it cause i thought i would need it, but the super sneaky brackets make it usable with a standard track. and yes, it is a rear torsion setup so the torsion bar is set at the rear. at the front near the door, there is a pulley on each side which changes the direction of the cable from horizontal to vertical and then it goes down to the bottom of the door and attaches to the cable brackets
@ImmDanny10 ай бұрын
@@jakecrayne5120thank you for the reply! Did you have to cut the vertical track? Right now my track for a 7’ door is 89” from very bottom to top of horizontal track. I only have 88” of clearance so as it stands I already have to take an inch off the vertical, but then that leaves no room for the door which I imagine goes above the track a bit. You have built in clearance by having that double track, so I’ll just figure the width of the track as the clearance I need.
@jakecrayne512010 ай бұрын
im not sure you need to cut the track. the excess upper track and upper door panel should just hit your header. if you need to cut the track though, it shouldnt be an issue to take an inch off the bottom. the main thing is making sure your door panels will fit. the super sneaky brackets help with track issues @@ImmDanny
@tombrownrigg87942 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@mattcoulombe33542 жыл бұрын
Do you remember what the height of the finished opening was? I'm trying to replace an existing door that's 6'6" tall with a 7' tall door. I just want to make sure that the weather strip is still going to hit the top style and not load across the raised panels
@jakecrayne51202 жыл бұрын
you should be fine. if anything, some of the door will hide behind your framing but it will still work fine.
@byronewhite10 ай бұрын
Genius 😊
@6speedguy8453 жыл бұрын
Clever idea
@RC-jt2rv2 жыл бұрын
How did you install the torsion bar in the back. Is there special bracket for that if so were can I get them at
@michaelcarrigan25133 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@dorothygallagher821Ай бұрын
What type of track did you use? Regular or low clearance, or straight? No one up here wants to do this!
@jakecrayne512024 күн бұрын
i used the double track low clearance, but it wasnt necessary. you can use a normal track as long as you use the super sneaky brackets