Super Mario 3D All Stars LOST BITS | Hidden Content & Upgrades Explained [TetraBitGaming]

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@TetraBitGaming
@TetraBitGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently "lazy" texture loading is a common game Dev practice as it might be why the folder was titled "lazy_texture_replace"! Even so, my point still stands, I think it's kind of a half-assed way to "update" the games
@zoepurnell
@zoepurnell 4 жыл бұрын
It is a hack considering how wonderful the SM64 PC port is. I wish they did something more like that.
@TetraBitGaming
@TetraBitGaming 4 жыл бұрын
@Farouk Ahmad I'm not planning on making it for a while still
@chickensandwich2193
@chickensandwich2193 4 жыл бұрын
Farouk Ahmad Don’t be impatient
@98ahni
@98ahni 4 жыл бұрын
At least be happy they didn't pull a Sony…
@Snowcart
@Snowcart 4 жыл бұрын
I was about to comment this. It's not just texture loading, prefixing `lazy` is used across tons of software development, it's just easier on the computer because it's a bit of a hack around the normal way of doing it. I don't think it's lazy and think it's fine.
@DomiAnimations
@DomiAnimations 4 жыл бұрын
Every lost bit found in a game, is every lost nerf dart I’ve lost.
@BlueEngland
@BlueEngland 4 жыл бұрын
Every lost bit in a game is every nerf gun I didn't get
@PhoenixFirewastaken
@PhoenixFirewastaken 4 жыл бұрын
I feel ya
@Coughing_Blood
@Coughing_Blood 4 жыл бұрын
how is that funny?
@inhex1603
@inhex1603 4 жыл бұрын
@@BlueEngland same
@Tlmmy924
@Tlmmy924 3 жыл бұрын
@@Coughing_Blood exactly
@lolly12252
@lolly12252 4 жыл бұрын
The "lazy_texture_replace" folder probably isn't them calling themselves lazy. It's to distinguish that the textures are loaded in on the fly only when needed ("lazy" loading) rather than being always loaded upon initialization ("eager" loading)
@littlea420
@littlea420 4 жыл бұрын
Nah they had too lol since it’s true
@sydneybiscuit
@sydneybiscuit 4 жыл бұрын
this is 100% correct. eager loading is the opposite of lazy loading. Relevant textures are only loaded when on screen as opposed to always residing in memory
@cin2110
@cin2110 4 жыл бұрын
it works either way
@TetraBitGaming
@TetraBitGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Regardless, my point still stands
@cyberbitterdragon
@cyberbitterdragon 4 жыл бұрын
@@TetraBitGaming wtf does this answer mean
@Gear_Storm
@Gear_Storm 4 жыл бұрын
Mario 3D All Stars Lost Bits: "Turns out because of a single typo in the code, Super Mario Galaxy 2 was removed from the title screen. So its still in there, but unreachable and Nintendo was too lazy to fix the problem and just decided to ship the game as a 3 game collection."
@dearsirdearyou4153
@dearsirdearyou4153 4 жыл бұрын
ok Karen
@ShockInazuma
@ShockInazuma 4 жыл бұрын
dear sir dear you in what way is that an “ok karen” moment?
@dilobs
@dilobs 4 жыл бұрын
@@dearsirdearyou4153 very unfunny
@dearsirdearyou4153
@dearsirdearyou4153 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShockInazuma people are bitching and they can't get what they want so I just said ok Karen
@ShockInazuma
@ShockInazuma 4 жыл бұрын
dear sir dear you i still don’t see how that can be an “ok karen” moment. If anything, Karens are worse than this
@Lemords
@Lemords 4 жыл бұрын
Alright I know the lazy texture bit was hopefully a joke, but lazy is an actual term used in game development
@mistaplayinabox
@mistaplayinabox 4 жыл бұрын
Why does tetrabit in the sponsership video look like a young version of the grandpa from happy wheels
@VEE0034
@VEE0034 4 жыл бұрын
@@mistaplayinabox how does that relate to the comment at all?
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't know it was actually a term, but this is why I love programmers: they sneak jokes into the actual terminology and then get to see the laymen encounter it and completely misunderstand it.
@davidquezada2116
@davidquezada2116 4 жыл бұрын
Actually it's common in software development. Not only games.
@GavinFromWeb
@GavinFromWeb 3 жыл бұрын
Nice pfp
@Someonewithaspace
@Someonewithaspace 4 жыл бұрын
6:56 *that means only one thing:* *nintendo is going to port hotel mario to pc*
@Sonictheoofhog4
@Sonictheoofhog4 4 жыл бұрын
*nintendo was originally were gonna port super Mario maker to the pc but then the Wii U existed*
@waluigimayar12
@waluigimayar12 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sonictheoofhog4 for real?
@WizzOfIzz
@WizzOfIzz 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, we will finally get to hear the line ‘Nice of the princess to invite us, eh Luigi?’ in HD
@Sonictheoofhog4
@Sonictheoofhog4 4 жыл бұрын
@@waluigimayar12 yes
@Sonictheoofhog4
@Sonictheoofhog4 4 жыл бұрын
@@WizzOfIzz And in charles martinet's Mario voice
@memerman9268
@memerman9268 4 жыл бұрын
YES! I CAN FINALLY STARE AT PEACHES HD EYEBALL ALL DAY!!!
@idkwhatishouldmake
@idkwhatishouldmake 4 жыл бұрын
what about that l o n g 1up
@memerman9268
@memerman9268 4 жыл бұрын
@@idkwhatishouldmake ah yes, the L O N G O N E U P
@xxsusmasterxx5491
@xxsusmasterxx5491 4 жыл бұрын
@@memerman9268 oh noe
@Pyrodiac
@Pyrodiac 3 жыл бұрын
wot?
@BoogerFart956
@BoogerFart956 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, only the finest eyeball textures.
@TetraBitGaming
@TetraBitGaming 4 жыл бұрын
BING BINGWAHOO (Become a member to access to these emotes and more in comments/streams :^] kzbin.info/door/T_dB4i0Jz971GVTA-D2Tbgjoin )
@thesniffler5
@thesniffler5 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@yeahwhoiwannaknowye
@yeahwhoiwannaknowye 4 жыл бұрын
Ok
@GoodbyeCM3
@GoodbyeCM3 4 жыл бұрын
Hi
@ronnyfilmsextras1587
@ronnyfilmsextras1587 4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@ScoopOfButter
@ScoopOfButter 4 жыл бұрын
Ok
@cavifax
@cavifax 4 жыл бұрын
Lazy texture replace could refer to the "lazy loading" optimization technique, a great example of this is modern websites loading images or videoplayers as you go scrolling, so they dont have to load everything at once, making the website seem faster to load and save bandwith
@JoJo-ps8ik
@JoJo-ps8ik 4 жыл бұрын
but thats not as fun
@zoepurnell
@zoepurnell 4 жыл бұрын
lazy_texture_replace isn't the devs saying that the method was lazy as you described it. 'lazy loading' is a common development term used when assets are loaded only when they are requested. Because they haven't altered the ROMs the emulator is 'lazily' swapping out the textures when they are requested by the game. It's still pretty funny considering the half arsed job they did.
@lucas_gaming2734
@lucas_gaming2734 4 жыл бұрын
Lol you just stole thsi
@tigersfan00
@tigersfan00 4 жыл бұрын
Lost Bit: Luigi is in Mario 64. It’s a very hidden Easter egg the developers added into the game. You have to do every single rumoured way of unlocking him from the original.
@harchosmia
@harchosmia 4 жыл бұрын
So he takes 2401 years to get?
@quackman
@quackman 3 жыл бұрын
@@harchosmia L is Real
@MrPuretrollin
@MrPuretrollin 4 жыл бұрын
A n64 virtual library would make me buy 100 years of the online service...
@DoraDora20188
@DoraDora20188 4 жыл бұрын
Well we have to wait and maybe we might get a game boy soon
@moosesues8887
@moosesues8887 4 жыл бұрын
More like 100 days
@near5148
@near5148 4 жыл бұрын
100 years later
@kurisu-2385
@kurisu-2385 4 жыл бұрын
Then gamecube then Wii then ds then wii u then 3ds
@Windows2000K
@Windows2000K 4 жыл бұрын
How much would 100 years of Nintendo switch online be?
@LaminGaming
@LaminGaming 4 жыл бұрын
7:04 The PAL version had the option to switch between 50hz & 60hz. So they must've simply had it set to 60hz and forced progressive scan mode, since the PAL version didn't support 480p only 576i & 480i.
@bebopblue
@bebopblue 4 жыл бұрын
0:27 I was happy for a split second
@lunanote-cassettemeower
@lunanote-cassettemeower 2 жыл бұрын
1:46 that aged excellently!
@evdestroy5304
@evdestroy5304 4 жыл бұрын
Mario 64 and Sunshine probably weren't upped to 60 fps as in a lot of older games certain logic and objects were tied to the frame rate so if it was upped things would either go twice as fast as intended or just break completely.
@luginess0
@luginess0 2 жыл бұрын
Fans have been able to do this type of thing for years, your telling me the richest company in Japan can't though?
@MrBramble
@MrBramble 4 жыл бұрын
Man I'm totally with you, I really wish nintendo had at least tried on this one instead of slapping some stuff together and calling it a day. I mean, I get we are in a pandemic, but nobody said 3d all stars had to come out this year. They could have taken their time and given everyone a much more "nintendo polished" experience.
@GreenSwede
@GreenSwede 4 жыл бұрын
making sunshine run at 60 fps instead of 30 isn't that easy. assuming that the game's speed is tied to the framerate, a common practice for older games back then (and uh Bethesda today lol) upping it to 60 would likely cause the game logic that's tied to the framerate to play out twice as fast/twice as soon. working around this requires a bit more code than just "replacing a few lines of code". the decompilation project of super mario 64 for an example went through a bit of a hurdle to support 60 fps, and even then it's all interpolated (game logic is still running at 30 fps) which is in my opinion a lazy implementation. there's no improvement to the controller input delay this way.
@chlorobyte_projects
@chlorobyte_projects 4 жыл бұрын
You'd think that, but there is a cheat code that makes the game run at 60 FPS. *A cheat code.*
@liamsgreatbitgaming
@liamsgreatbitgaming 4 жыл бұрын
Benedani yeah, it does actually mess up some stuff
@camharkness
@camharkness 4 жыл бұрын
Kingdom hearts 2 had trouble and glitches at first when it got ported to the ps4 and was in 60fps. They fixed all that now but at first.... Oh boy.
@AceTrainerX3
@AceTrainerX3 4 жыл бұрын
@@chlorobyte_projects Maybe so, but some aspects of the game are still gonna get jacked up.
@victorford5047
@victorford5047 4 жыл бұрын
@@liamsgreatbitgaming Stuff that Nintendo could've fixed.
@AmiiboDoctor
@AmiiboDoctor 4 жыл бұрын
Unlisted crew REPRESENT
@mr_manza6531
@mr_manza6531 4 жыл бұрын
I’m second comment and you’re not The people below this comment is gay.
@FatherAxeKeeper
@FatherAxeKeeper 4 жыл бұрын
I'm gay
@saniK6947
@saniK6947 4 жыл бұрын
Hi amiibo doctor
@s0nataTF
@s0nataTF 4 жыл бұрын
Dipper Pines ok?
@wolfetteplays8894
@wolfetteplays8894 4 жыл бұрын
Yess unlisted
@ashykitty09
@ashykitty09 4 жыл бұрын
“Back to you, mister lost bits!”
@MelonSpeedruns
@MelonSpeedruns 4 жыл бұрын
Yahoo!!
@shingosawatarihgx8345
@shingosawatarihgx8345 4 жыл бұрын
but what about the most lost bit of all: super mario galaxy 2? why did nintendo lose it? can it be found?
@redwidow1358
@redwidow1358 4 жыл бұрын
The TL;DR is adding Galaxy 2 was going to take too much effort and time, especially with everyone working from home. They might include it as an update or DLC eventually, but don't count on it. They might just leave it out too. Do keep in mind that the menu is configurable, and adding more games and songs to the menu is entirely possible and easy to do.
@redwidow1358
@redwidow1358 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShockInazuma Yes, how lazy of them to port an N64 emulator, write a whole new emulator for the GameCube and Wii, port Galaxy, and do it all while working from home during a pandemic. So lazy.
@mrwheatthins2413
@mrwheatthins2413 4 жыл бұрын
@@redwidow1358 compared to what fans do for free, yeah it is pretty lazy
@redwidow1358
@redwidow1358 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrwheatthins2413 Show me the fan port of Galaxy, Sunshine mod with native widescreen, without physics and timing bugs, and then we'll talk lol
@mrwheatthins2413
@mrwheatthins2413 4 жыл бұрын
@@redwidow1358 literally just use an emulator on pc with fan made fixes
@zekromfan1
@zekromfan1 4 жыл бұрын
I actually like the way Sunshine’s camera was inverted, would have been nice to have the old option available for those who liked it, but I personally was never really able to get a handle on it. Then again, I did way back when I used to play it on the NGC as a kid, but now as an adult it was tough to get used to after the way newer games control.
@burnsy96
@burnsy96 3 жыл бұрын
6:17 - Refers the technique called 'Lazy Load' which means the textures are loaded into memory when they are needed and not all bulked in at once.
@marsil602the2nd
@marsil602the2nd 4 жыл бұрын
In regards to the SMSunshine only being 30fps, I feel like "flipping the switch" between 30 and 60 frames isnt the quick solution everyone thinks it is: when Kingdom Hearts 1.5+2.5 released for PS4 boasting the new 60fps framerate, it became apparent all Square Eniix did was just "flip the switch" and the 60fps came with a lovely set of new problems; a number of things ended up functioning FAR TOO FAST to be reasonable, and players had to discover these problems during their initial playthroughs for it to reach Square Enix' attention, and a patch had to be made to ACTUALLY ACCOMMODATE THE CHANGE OF FRAMERATES. TLDR: theres no guarantee changing the framerate of a game wont create strange side effects that need more tweaks/adjustments
@Ultimatedogfan
@Ultimatedogfan 4 жыл бұрын
It's literally a anniversary collection of Mario, freaking mario! It's not like they couldn't fix it
@aidanquiett668
@aidanquiett668 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ultimatedogfan It was also made in 8 months, and ported 3 games with some fairly significant updates
@Ultimatedogfan
@Ultimatedogfan 4 жыл бұрын
@@aidanquiett668 1. 8 months is enough to fix small things like those 2.NO, it's just a emulator with HD filters,Idk what's the big deal here
@aidanquiett668
@aidanquiett668 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ultimatedogfan You've never really looked into the complexities of game design or how difficult emulating games can be, have you? Even assuming the emulator worked perfectly with the game, it has to feel as though it isnt emulated at all to the players since its a home console port and people pay money to not deal with that stuff, and the fact the switch wasnt exactly made with wii ports in mind. Galaxy has a pointing mechanic while the switch is missing the sensor bar that made that mechanic work in the first place, and that is one of likely dozens of small issues that pop up when trying to emulate games onto platforms not designed with the same ideals as the original console
@Ultimatedogfan
@Ultimatedogfan 4 жыл бұрын
@@aidanquiett668 the switch emulated version of Galaxy,it has a little effort on it, but the majority of work was already done with the Nvidia version of the game (exclusive to China)
@weezlewax6839
@weezlewax6839 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly never really had a problem with 64 and sunshine’s inverted cameras.
@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171
@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 4 жыл бұрын
I actually prefer them.
@antimatter3084
@antimatter3084 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine Nintendo giving the option to reinverht the camera, crazy I know
@wowodirt42
@wowodirt42 4 жыл бұрын
Me too lol
@litpotat5601
@litpotat5601 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@KewelsBri
@KewelsBri 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever played the games on real hardware? It generally should only feel strange if you've done so.
@ChristopherMoom
@ChristopherMoom 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say the game itself will become a Lost Bit but we all know damn well there's a high chance Nintendo DOESN'T go through with the limited time offering Galaxy 2 on the other hand...
@paperysmm1759
@paperysmm1759 4 жыл бұрын
Tetra literally said that
@hubertsingh832
@hubertsingh832 4 жыл бұрын
The reason they probably didn't upgrade Sunshine to run at 60fps could maybe because some of the in game elements are tied to the framerate. I remember running a 60fps patch in an emulator and seeing the ferris wheel in Pinna Park rotating at double the speed, making it impossible to get on it. So, I guess they were just lazy here?
@gnarly.bulblax
@gnarly.bulblax 4 жыл бұрын
The Pinna Park thing is an actual part of the game
@Robbie_Haruna
@Robbie_Haruna 4 жыл бұрын
​@@gnarly.bulblax I mean yes and no. It certainly rotates faster in episode 5, but it rotates much faster than double the speed.
@jacobthefunny
@jacobthefunny 4 жыл бұрын
1:03 *LeTs A gO*
@Sonictheoofhog4
@Sonictheoofhog4 4 жыл бұрын
*lEtS'A gO*
@zacadoole1
@zacadoole1 4 жыл бұрын
"lazy" is a technical term in programing/algorithms. A "lazy replace" in this context doesn't necessarily say anything about the amount of effort they put in. It's just the name for the particular way they did it.
@concert_sans
@concert_sans 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: if you slide down the tree on pianto village ( i believe its called that ) you can clip through the death border and escape the barrier lol
@mariodelrio2387
@mariodelrio2387 4 жыл бұрын
How is there a LOST BITS here? They're literally emulation of the games Edit: after the video was over, I got a ad for Super mario 64 in super mario 3d all-stars The irony
@gomugoat
@gomugoat 4 жыл бұрын
That isn't irony that's a coincidence.
@AngelPlayMc
@AngelPlayMc 4 жыл бұрын
Its called a coincidence not irony
@oceanautical
@oceanautical 4 жыл бұрын
It’s actually called Google personalized ads not coincidence
@DanielReyes-up5sf
@DanielReyes-up5sf 4 жыл бұрын
Ocean yeah!
@theofficialpurpleguy1404
@theofficialpurpleguy1404 4 жыл бұрын
Oh the irony it’s too much
@dillonwright13
@dillonwright13 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Sunshine doesn't get enough love. Most people found it too hard, which I can understand in some parts of the game, but the camera was ahead of its time, which is proven to be true when it was reused in Super Mario Odyssey, and it debuted some fan favorite characters that stayed in the series for years, such as Bowser Jr.
@jokuemt
@jokuemt 4 жыл бұрын
there is some misinformation in this, when you boot up PAL super mario sunshine, it asks if you want to run it at 60HZ, if you chose yes, it runs at 30fps. Many games from that era did that too. Also sunshine is straight up emulated so its more demanding than galaxy, which runs in weird half-emulation half-native way. galaxy, unlike sunshine in this collection, run with variable resolution so its not 1080p all the time and lowers resolution when the system cant keep up.
@MelonSpeedruns
@MelonSpeedruns 4 жыл бұрын
Fps are different from HZ, a game can run at 60hz but 20fps like ocarina of time.
@MelonSpeedruns
@MelonSpeedruns 4 жыл бұрын
I do see your point though, though the emulator the collection has most-likely patches the fps
@redwidow1358
@redwidow1358 4 жыл бұрын
It's also worth noting that Sunshine's executable is entirely unused. They're actually running a compressed binary separately.
@noname-jt6kl
@noname-jt6kl 2 жыл бұрын
No the pal version doesn't do that. I have it, and it just boots up without any 60 Hz option. Although that might be because I'm using a wii to play it.
@jokuemt
@jokuemt 2 жыл бұрын
@@noname-jt6kl I have it too and it DOES ask if you want to play the game in 60hz mode when you boot it up.
@wariolandgoldpiramid
@wariolandgoldpiramid 4 жыл бұрын
"Lazy texture replace" is a reference to a real progrmming called "Lazy loading". Look it up.
@biggiecheese2544
@biggiecheese2544 4 жыл бұрын
When there's no mention of Galaxy 2 in the game's code 😔😔😔😔😔😔😔
@samuelthecamel
@samuelthecamel 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently there were a lot of problems with the development of Galaxy 2, and the developers didn't have good memories of it, so it makes sense for them not to include it.
@gregman642
@gregman642 4 жыл бұрын
YourFairyKing maybe they are saving it for a Wii Nintendo Switch online thing.
@letricstudios
@letricstudios 4 жыл бұрын
It's a collection of mario games a sequel will be out of place and a stupid idea
@letricstudios
@letricstudios 4 жыл бұрын
@@yourfairyking I dont know anything about megaman so I have no idea what you mean
@bloopy7299
@bloopy7299 3 жыл бұрын
1:39 One year or so later and New Pokemon Snap is coming very soon, holy frick I'm excited
@pelicanplayer8408
@pelicanplayer8408 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like those text strings really where for the N64 games on Switch 1:08
@cosmicjenny4508
@cosmicjenny4508 4 жыл бұрын
1:48 Uhhh, no, Perfect Dark was never rereleased on a Virtual Console.
@Jackall1993
@Jackall1993 4 жыл бұрын
7:55 confused me, you yourself already declared that sunshine was fully emilated and galaxy only partial, so in theory, sunchine is much more ressource taxing on the switch than galaxy is in this case, since both basically run from the almost same initial hardware, just with one being recoded to run almost natively, when it comes to logic calculation. Seing how finicky sunshine emulation, especially polution maps etc is, and how messy the games code is, it make a lot of sence that they where both being cautious about changing it or massively making changes and debugging the framerate. Aside from that mor eminor nitpick, incredible video as always
@Thewaterspirit57
@Thewaterspirit57 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, sunshine’s 30fps cap might be because of how old the game is, and also cuz of how it’s entirely running on emulator, whereas Galaxy is runnin part natively and part emulated. It also might have something to do with how emulators for some reason have strange oddities with the aspect ratio at 16:9 with 60fps
@aidannolastname
@aidannolastname 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Super Mario Sunshine was already in widescreen when it was released. Even though widescreen TVs were not very common back in the early 2000s. Nintendo was very ahead of their time.
@MelonSpeedruns
@MelonSpeedruns 4 жыл бұрын
There was no widescreen mode in the gamecube release, what are you talking about exactly?
@aidannolastname
@aidannolastname 4 жыл бұрын
@@MelonSpeedruns there was! There were a few games on gamecube that supported widescreen. Another one was Starfox Adventures. If you look it up, there is a reddit thread. I am not saying that reddit is a reliable source. Since the thread is in r/wii, it could have been on the wii that Sunshine had widescreen. I am pretty sure that it was widescreen though.
@aidannolastname
@aidannolastname 4 жыл бұрын
@@MelonSpeedruns actually, it seems that there wasn't in normal play. I think nintendo was able to play it in 16:9 but I am not sure. Sorry about this, I was just kinda confused lol.
@cartergamegeek
@cartergamegeek 4 жыл бұрын
@@aidannolastname Progressive Scan Mode on GameCube put a few games into 480i and a few went widescreen. Sunshine never had the widescreen support but it does support the Progressive Scan mode so you can use the correct GameCube with the Progressive Scan cable to get 480i. GameCube did use that for widescreen but not all Progressive Scan games are widescreen but they are all really crisp looking. So Sunshine might have been tested in widescreen even if they never used it. Look up Progressive Scan for more info. Cool thing to research.
@psyk4delik
@psyk4delik 2 жыл бұрын
1:34 HE PREDICTED IT
@deimosthesmoker4200
@deimosthesmoker4200 4 жыл бұрын
Lost Bits On 3D Mario All-Stars Will Be Focus Like Crazy
@GalaxyGamer4973
@GalaxyGamer4973 4 жыл бұрын
r u a bot? i see u everywere
@marzgabe2923
@marzgabe2923 4 жыл бұрын
@@GalaxyGamer4973 lmao thats an among us profile picture
@deimosthesmoker4200
@deimosthesmoker4200 4 жыл бұрын
Wut:/
@deimosthesmoker4200
@deimosthesmoker4200 4 жыл бұрын
You Better Find a Photo For Among Us Hagyn
@ccgamer9alford64
@ccgamer9alford64 4 жыл бұрын
Y know your pretty sus Rayden
@SammyRenard
@SammyRenard 2 жыл бұрын
Additionally, while forcing a game to run at 60fps is relatively easy, it can break all sorts of physics and such that were tuned for 30fps gameplay
@Cinder-Soft
@Cinder-Soft 4 жыл бұрын
i really enjoy that a company so strict towards people emulating/remaking their older titles (which scalpers charge out the ass for if you want to get them nowadays) uses emulation in their half-assed, full priced ports
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 4 жыл бұрын
@OctagonalSM64 except that the gamecube emulator sucks, so it would have been better to just steal dolphin.
@Starwort
@Starwort 4 жыл бұрын
@@lpfan4491 I'm like 90% sure the official emulator currently has fewer emulation bugs than dolphin* *Haven't played sunshine in dolphin so idk if the debug cubes show or not but they patched that in 3das
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 4 жыл бұрын
@@Starwort As far as I am aware, all of the issues in official sunshine are not present on dolphin.
@Starwort
@Starwort 4 жыл бұрын
@@lpfan4491 there are still emulation issues in sunshine?
@scrubbbsyboy844
@scrubbbsyboy844 4 жыл бұрын
4:50 - Melon's accent is delightful
@JoshTheWoz
@JoshTheWoz 8 ай бұрын
He sounds like Iwata 😆❤️
@Stargazing_night_sky
@Stargazing_night_sky Жыл бұрын
2:33 aged beautifully
@DylanMatthewTurner
@DylanMatthewTurner 4 жыл бұрын
I've noticed some changes to Sunshine while I was playing though. For instance, they fixed the physics in pachinko in Sunshine. On the GameCube, once shot, you basically can't control your aerial movement, even with the hover nozzle as your mom's time keeps going. On the switch version, you gain control immediately. I've seen lots of little changes like that.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 4 жыл бұрын
Might just be luck. I already saw someone have more issues than on gamecube in that stage.
@DylanMatthewTurner
@DylanMatthewTurner 4 жыл бұрын
@@lpfan4491 No. It wasn't just that I had an easier time. The physics themselves are distinctly different. This is from multiple enterings of that level on both Switch and GameCube.
@noname-jt6kl
@noname-jt6kl 2 жыл бұрын
@@DylanMatthewTurner it could be because of the region. Do you live in America or a PAL region. The switch version is smoother than the original pal version, yet uses the PAL version, so that could change the way the physics work.
@DylanMatthewTurner
@DylanMatthewTurner 2 жыл бұрын
@@noname-jt6kl I live in an NTSC region
@noname-jt6kl
@noname-jt6kl 2 жыл бұрын
@@DylanMatthewTurner ah. Then it's likely that you're feeling the PAL physics. Although the original version of the pal one still loses control in this area.
@mavisgrace5403
@mavisgrace5403 3 жыл бұрын
Nintendo online + expansion pack 1:24
@fireaza
@fireaza 4 жыл бұрын
Now that you mention it, a Pikmin VR game would be really interesting. One of the most surprising "genres" I've discovered since I got into VR are what I like to call "diorama" games, games that have you looking in on a small environment ala Moss or Lucky's Tale. These are really great for VR, they replicate the charm of looking at a model train set, and since you're so far away, the assets can be much lower-fidelity, so it help with lightening up the processing load. Pikmin would be a good fit for this style of game, as they already have a miniature garden vibe to them.
@chipwhich
@chipwhich 3 жыл бұрын
The way he said “let’s a go” made me feel threatened
@churupinha3510
@churupinha3510 4 жыл бұрын
1:03 that was a great Mario impression
@AceTrainerX3
@AceTrainerX3 4 жыл бұрын
Reminded me of Bowser's Inside Story, when mario enters a battle. Pretty good impression.
@FransenYT
@FransenYT 4 жыл бұрын
This sounds like the collection is pretty disappointing. I don’t know why. I didn’t buy it because no switch here but it sounds disappointing when you mention it works as normal Roms
@elycegrimes7205
@elycegrimes7205 4 жыл бұрын
It is. They screwed up sunshine controlls and its just a releases for very cheap games now, with new texture but for the price of a brand new game
@__4762
@__4762 4 жыл бұрын
It's immensely disappointing. All 3 games suffer from issues with the controls. The uninverted camera in 64 and Sunshine as he and his french buddy mentioned, but also completely and unnecessarily reconfiguring Sunshine's control scheme outside of what was necessary to get FLUDD working properly. Sunshine also lacks GameCube controller support despite the switch having an adapter allowing them to do that. They also removed left handed pointer options from Galaxy. (the Wiimote and Nunchuk weren't designed for any specific hand to hold so lefties could use the pointer with their dominant hand just as easily as righties could, but now the pointer is mapped exclusively to the right joy-con's gyro and the pro controller's gyro despite the left joy-con also having gyro.) As they pointed out, it's just standard roms with some upscaled textures. 3D All Stars has inferior versions of each game in the collection and is overall an incredibly disappointing product. This doesn't even go into the bugs introduced through the emulation.
@bowtieproductions6708
@bowtieproductions6708 4 жыл бұрын
@@__4762 Counterpoint: You're not wrong that it has a lot of issues, but for a lot of people, myself included, this is the only official way we have to play these games, and the first time I'm going to properly experience sunshine and most of galaxy 1. Sure, I could emulate all the games, but for me emulation isn't quite good enough. Whether it's an issue with the controls, or performance, or just not being worth the effort, I would much rather an official way to play them, even if it should be a bit better.
@oceanautical
@oceanautical 4 жыл бұрын
@@bowtieproductions6708 I agree it is really cool that more people can experience some 3D Mario games and Sunshine getting a new platform but this port is very lazy. Compared to what modders have done to these games and even comparing this collection to their past collections (Kirby’s Dream Collection), they are very weak ports. Super Mario 64 was especially disappointing and it just felt like a good way to sell half assed ports back to us at $60. And I don’t even want to talk about the limited timed release...
@bowtieproductions6708
@bowtieproductions6708 4 жыл бұрын
@@oceanautical Heck yeah it's lazy, and I am as disappointed with nintendo as anyone, I'm just so stoked about playing this games on my switch that it doesn't matter much to me, and the more egregious problems I am hopeful nintendo will address.
@marcov.r5315
@marcov.r5315 4 жыл бұрын
Super Mario All Stars: I have full remakes of past games for the new console! Super Mario 3D All Stars: 3 roms you can get online sold for 60 dollars.
@gemstone4348
@gemstone4348 4 жыл бұрын
6:18 my day is now complete
@redwidow1358
@redwidow1358 4 жыл бұрын
Lazy loading is a common programming term
@jNetDowling
@jNetDowling 4 жыл бұрын
There is literally no reason to not sub to TetraBitGaming. It's always awesome.
@TetraBitGaming
@TetraBitGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Haha thank you !
@Caliber_1579
@Caliber_1579 4 жыл бұрын
I'm playing this right now so good timing
@TheEmeraldBlaziken
@TheEmeraldBlaziken 4 жыл бұрын
I love how as soon as I clicked on this video, I got a Super Mario 3D All-Stars ad.
@ARentz07
@ARentz07 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you're joking, but "lazy" actually refers to replacing the textures at runtime. "Lazy" is often used in programming to refer to things that are loaded only when asked for by whatever workflow requires them.
@BetaAngelModding
@BetaAngelModding 4 жыл бұрын
The issue with unlocking sunshine is that frame timers will be off. Some objects in the game use the framerate for timing, you can even see this effect when you emulate sunshine in 60 fps. Some things will be 2x faster than they should be in terms of executing code
@thewanderinggamer1369
@thewanderinggamer1369 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, this game is underrated. A. It's actually decently priced, in my opinion. B. It's accessible. C. It's a way to have a new generation access to the classics, like myself. It may be a little more expensive in America or outside my area, but it is way too overhated. I wish YT Comments showed dislikes.
@MARUTITOXDAnimaciones
@MARUTITOXDAnimaciones 4 жыл бұрын
In my country Super Mario 3d all stars cost 40 $
@HeadmostCantaloupe
@HeadmostCantaloupe 2 жыл бұрын
Him: "i hope there would be a N64 collection like NES online or SNES online." that one kid who can perdict the future: "I am 4 parallel Universes ahead of you"
@AevilJ
@AevilJ 4 жыл бұрын
This will be the closest that we will get to super mario 64 lost bits.
@invaderzim2243
@invaderzim2243 3 жыл бұрын
Mario 3D All-stars predicted N64 switch online... Wow
@BlueSparxLPs
@BlueSparxLPs 4 жыл бұрын
Lazy is a development term. They're not calling the textures lazy.
@christopherl.1072
@christopherl.1072 4 жыл бұрын
What does it mean?
@christopherl.1072
@christopherl.1072 4 жыл бұрын
Nevermind, i think i found it: lazy loading: is a design pattern commonly used in computer programming to defer initialization of an object until the point at which it is needed. (source wikipedia)
@BlueSparxLPs
@BlueSparxLPs 4 жыл бұрын
@@christopherl.1072 More specifically, it's short for "Lazy Loading." Here's an excerpt from TechTerms that might help: "Lazy loading is a programming technique that delays loading resources until they are needed. A common example is a webpage that defers loading images until the user scrolls to their location within the page. Lazy loading is used on the web and in software programs, such as mobile and desktop applications ... While lazy loading has become increasingly popular on the web, it has been used in software development for a long time. For example, an operating system may only display thumbnail images for the visible icons in a folder. Similarly, an image viewing program may only load the visible images in a photo library. This uses less memory and improves application performance because the program does not load unnecessary data." Tl;dr: it's a memory saving technique that provides a performance boost.
@Kerfufflefuf
@Kerfufflefuf 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, I was disappointed that they didn’t overhaul the camera system in SM64. 20 years later and the camera controls are still abysmal.
@projectpst
@projectpst 4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY MARIO 64 GOT SOME LOST BITS! WHEN IS THE EPISODE?
@Sonictheoofhog4
@Sonictheoofhog4 4 жыл бұрын
too many personalised copies of super Mario 64 is to find beta content of-
@TheSewDew
@TheSewDew 4 жыл бұрын
I like watching this when making games. It convinces me to hide things :)
@sirflimflam
@sirflimflam 4 жыл бұрын
They probably WERENT confident they could run Sunshine on the switch at 60fps. The reason why Galaxy runs as well as it does is because it's not emulated. Even I have my doubts the Switch version would be able to run GameCube games at 60fps without troubles.
@chlorobyte_projects
@chlorobyte_projects 4 жыл бұрын
Only Galaxy's code is not emulated. Everything else is.
@sirflimflam
@sirflimflam 4 жыл бұрын
@@chlorobyte_projects Yep, and emulating the code is the slowest part in the process.
@Legoluigi26
@Legoluigi26 4 жыл бұрын
I like how there's so few improvement in these 3 games that even a pro KZbinr couldn't stretch a list of them to the magic algorithm number of 10 minutes.
@ieyemyeyes
@ieyemyeyes 4 жыл бұрын
It’s 8 minutes now
@furret002
@furret002 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know that starmans fort is in the remake, still unused though
@FluffyWinterz
@FluffyWinterz 4 жыл бұрын
a couple thousand, mate.
@furret002
@furret002 4 жыл бұрын
@@FluffyWinterz ???
@FluffyWinterz
@FluffyWinterz 4 жыл бұрын
@Offhead47 Oh, i thought you mean starbits.
@oceanautical
@oceanautical 4 жыл бұрын
It’s probably just copy and pasted Galaxy code that’s optimized to run natively on Switch. So yes, I’d imagine all of the cut content from Galaxy is still in the 3DAS port.
@furret002
@furret002 4 жыл бұрын
@@oceanautical The problem is that it looks more finished than both galaxy games version
@sauceman6457
@sauceman6457 4 жыл бұрын
I do wish Nintendo would've put more effort into making the Graphics better, and the inverted camera controls was just dumb. But, I eventually got used to the camera controls after about 2 days, and it's still really fun to be able to play all three of these games on the Switch. And I can't really play Sunshine otherwise, since my computer is kinda slow and I couldn't get Dolphin to work properly.
@KorporalKReephdmkiytrecv69
@KorporalKReephdmkiytrecv69 4 жыл бұрын
The biggest lost bit of all is Mario Galaxy 2 and Bowser's gayness. I heard they are being kept in area 51.
@kirbythekirb59
@kirbythekirb59 4 жыл бұрын
Fan of 8 bites no but seriously how are people pretending a 3ds game to be ported to console gaming, hd and all. I get the other complains but this one is just stupid
@kirbythekirb59
@kirbythekirb59 4 жыл бұрын
Fan of 8 bites captain toad was a wii u game to begin with, also a game like 3d land was made specifically for the 3ds, putting it without a complete overhaul, and i mean also gameplay wise, the game would just feel off
@kirbythekirb59
@kirbythekirb59 4 жыл бұрын
Fan of 8 bites also what other 3ds games did nintendo port on switch?
@kirbythekirb59
@kirbythekirb59 4 жыл бұрын
Fan of 8 bites the levels were developed for 4 player in mind so i don't think an 3d land extension level would work. And if you mean they could use that as the base for a remake, then i guess that would works. Still you didn't answer my question about 3ds games ported on switch
@kirbythekirb59
@kirbythekirb59 4 жыл бұрын
Fan of 8 bites Fan of 8 bites team kirby is based on the star allies engine, so it's not a port, same thing with kirby fighter 2. Shantae was not made by nintendo. Mario maker was a wii u game and 2 is most likely based on that, same thing with hyrule warriors, even if that wasn't made by nintendo too. Don't get what you mean with the mario kart series, cause wile there was a title for 3ds, 8 isn't a port of it
@Vladimir_Kv
@Vladimir_Kv 4 жыл бұрын
0:35 You were asking why? Well, because it was Nintendo who first invented a so-wrongly-called "Skyrim re-resell scheme" - they were selling their games again and again and again for each new platform. But! As they are making Switch into a line of future consoles they need another way to re-sell their old games - thus "limited time offer". I bet it will be selling again in the future.
@Sonictheoofhog4
@Sonictheoofhog4 4 жыл бұрын
Got a super Mario 3d all stars ad on this video
@omegarugal9283
@omegarugal9283 4 жыл бұрын
patching a 30 fps game to run at 60 fps can range from easy to immposible, just unlocking the framerate may mess up the animations or even break the game entirely, depends on how the game was coded. and i post this just because of the many people asking for 60 fps patches overnigtht, not easy people, its not a switch
@Notstolencomment
@Notstolencomment 4 жыл бұрын
I like that North Korea has the PAL version of Super Mario 64, Kim Jong Un really loves Super Mario 64 PAL Version.
@leadbman
@leadbman 3 жыл бұрын
FPS can sometimes be tied to physics engines so it's possible they only bumped the frame rate up to 30fps so the physics engine of the game didn't have any issues.
@EllieMiller510
@EllieMiller510 4 жыл бұрын
“Lazy texture replace” lol
@littlea420
@littlea420 4 жыл бұрын
True tho
@wariolandgoldpiramid
@wariolandgoldpiramid 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, "Lazy loading" is a real programming thing.
@karacakerimalperen
@karacakerimalperen Жыл бұрын
It's been 2 fricking years and still no SM64 Lost Bits.
@gamerboygaming
@gamerboygaming 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of people complain about FPS and stuff, but your average consumer isn’t really going to notice or care about whether a game runs at 4,762 FPS or 60.
@gamerboygaming
@gamerboygaming 4 жыл бұрын
Gamer Player I said nothing about everyone. I said your average consumer.
@antimatter3084
@antimatter3084 4 жыл бұрын
30 fps is just plain awful though, 60 fps should be the gold standard across the board especially for platformers.
@gamerboygaming
@gamerboygaming 4 жыл бұрын
Antimatter30 I honestly don’t see a difference most of the time.
@NinjaWeedle
@NinjaWeedle 4 жыл бұрын
@@antimatter3084 30 is fine. anything below 24 is where things get unacceptable.
@ryanh920
@ryanh920 4 жыл бұрын
4:29 " a close-up of my eye?"
@CyanicSonic
@CyanicSonic 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love early uploads
@tsuk1sho
@tsuk1sho 4 жыл бұрын
10 hours ago
@noobypants1567
@noobypants1567 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@CyanicSonic
@CyanicSonic 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@oolexer
@oolexer 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@FatKidWitAJetPak
@FatKidWitAJetPak 4 жыл бұрын
Oh thanks now I can print off peaches HD eyeball and spread them around town.
@b1uesi1ver66
@b1uesi1ver66 4 жыл бұрын
i wish they didnt fix the backward long jump glitch
@apox1376
@apox1376 4 жыл бұрын
really hoping they bring us an n64 collection with either the japanese 1.0 or standard usa release available for online members tbh
@dwdadevil
@dwdadevil 4 жыл бұрын
That was fixed since 1997
@groszak1
@groszak1 4 жыл бұрын
talk to Nintendo in 1997 about this in the Shindou version
@The_asdfghjkl
@The_asdfghjkl 4 жыл бұрын
Nintendo: Emulates mario 64,Sunshine,and some of galaxy 1 Those who enjoy emulation: "Am I a joke to you"
@stolasch4368
@stolasch4368 4 жыл бұрын
came here because i was wating for this
@MarioGlitchy9
@MarioGlitchy9 4 жыл бұрын
Your Mario impression is on point
@drakelord6229
@drakelord6229 4 жыл бұрын
notification gang Super Mario Bros 35 lost bits next?
@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171
@thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe originally there was an NES port as an extra or a CPU fight like Tetris 99.
@1xsandrax1
@1xsandrax1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video!
@GaminGlaceon3707
@GaminGlaceon3707 4 жыл бұрын
I won’t lie, I think the new Sunshine controls WAY better than the GameCube, while the other 2 don’t control as well as the original (for 64 I’m referring to the fact that I think the US version is better to control).
@GaminGlaceon3707
@GaminGlaceon3707 4 жыл бұрын
RosesBubble 64 makes long jumping and back flipping more annoying, Sunshine plays WAY differently with a pro controller than a GC controller, and the spin in Galaxy can be delayed or just not come out at all.
@mockingdream02
@mockingdream02 4 жыл бұрын
Sir, I just wanted to say I love your content always keeping it interesting. Thanks for the amazing content
@dakotakirkpatrick1335
@dakotakirkpatrick1335 4 жыл бұрын
I hope they make a anniversary Zelda collection
@OtakuUnitedStudio
@OtakuUnitedStudio 4 жыл бұрын
I hope we get a reimagining of Zelda 1 and 2 at some point. 2 is criminally underrated due to fans of the series thinking of it as "bad" just because it doesn't follow the Zelda formula, even though it was only the second in the series so there wasn't a formula yet. And people didn't like formulaic sequels in the 80's, so it wouldn't have sold as well as it did if it was just more of Zelda 1. Plus it actually was pretty well received at the time, with most of the dislike coming from younger fans who were introduced to the series through A Link to the Past or Ocarina of Time.
@dakotakirkpatrick1335
@dakotakirkpatrick1335 4 жыл бұрын
@@OtakuUnitedStudio I honestly think if they make a collection they should include ocarina of Time and Majora's mask
@ImWhyMortalsCry
@ImWhyMortalsCry 2 жыл бұрын
0:26 That would've been sooooo cool I still enjoyed finally being able to play Sunshine and Galaxy tho
@brianbudowick2751
@brianbudowick2751 4 жыл бұрын
We already know that Pokemon snap is coming to switch
@SpaceLandslip
@SpaceLandslip 4 жыл бұрын
I got an ad for Mario 3D all stars in this video. EPIC
@TheAdorableOsha
@TheAdorableOsha 4 жыл бұрын
While I would've loved that Super Mario Sunshine ran at 60FPS, I believe the Switch wouldn't really handle it smoothly. The game already suffers from random hiccups in Delfino Plaza and sometimes in other places too. I guess it has to do with the game being emulated instead of being half-native, half-emulated like in Galaxy. Anyway, really informative video, dude! I really like the way you speak and how you give your opinions on them as well.
@dwdadevil
@dwdadevil 4 жыл бұрын
You can do it with AR codes in dolphin, but the physics are weird at some point
@redwidow1358
@redwidow1358 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is, Sunshine's framerate is tied to the timing of a lot of things in the game. It really isn't "just a few lines of code" but actually a major undertaking to properly make the game run at 60.
@BetaAngelModding
@BetaAngelModding 4 жыл бұрын
Sunshine had 0 lag spikes for me, I heard it has lag spikes on modded consoles tho.
@redwidow1358
@redwidow1358 4 жыл бұрын
@@BetaAngelModding I've run it both with and without an overclock. At 1.7GHz, it's smooth as butter. At the stock speeds, it only drops a couple of frames at a time. Not much at all, hardly noticable.
@BetaAngelModding
@BetaAngelModding 4 жыл бұрын
@@redwidow1358 yeah which is why I dont understand him saying "random hiccups"
@TD_153
@TD_153 4 жыл бұрын
YES WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!😁👍
@dakotakirkpatrick1335
@dakotakirkpatrick1335 4 жыл бұрын
I wish that Luigi was included in super Mario Sunshine as DLC in the collection
@DeveloperCampfire
@DeveloperCampfire 2 жыл бұрын
2:30 Looks like you predicted pikmin 4 tetra
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