Super Mario Maker (Zero Punctuation)

[@kidumby7599]

The funniest part of all this is there's still a thriving ROMhack community because the Mario Maker series's limitations prevent them occupying the niche entirely, and even WITH those limitations the community's also made fucking amazing levels in both games while still churning out fan-made stuff on the side.

[@SchadeTree]

For the longest time the only thing I knew about Mario Maker was from this video, so I never really gave it any thought. Recently though I stumbled onto the SMM youtube community and its genuinely incredible what people have made with this little creativity toy.

[@DannOfSteel]

This is more or less Nintendo pulling a Tom Sawyer on its customers. They're all, "Look at how much fun it is to paint this fence! Pay me and I'll let you experience the fun too!"

[@YourFatherVEVO]

They did it again

[@the117doctor]

Oh, that is SO TRUE!

[@josephabrams8529]

I think “Girlfriend Reviews” ripped you off recently

[@zegreatpumpkinani9161]

Ah... except the metaphor kind of falls apart for me who spent my childhood playing little big planet, the lego games, Super Mario Flash, Spore, etc., in almost exclusively their level creators, and am now in college for Game Design...

[@chukyuniqul]

@@zegreatpumpkinani9161 you should watch one of yahtzee's let's drown outs on his personal channel. It's one of the last episodes on drowning out dark souls where he and gabe talk about colleges for game design and, well, to paraphrase them:do not go into game design as a primary skill. Ever. So I hope you can code good or have skill as a concept artist, 3d modeler, music composer or writer. Because it's very unlikely you get a position in the industry if you wanna be a game designer (and yahtzee explained that even if you do get it, it's highly likely you will not be paid all that much). But yahtzee did concede that it's not a bad choice if you wanna go solo indie dev like he does (though I'm sure he'll still advise you to get an editor to keep you grounded if you wanna make an actually good game)

[@tj12711]

"We even had him teach ya typing once" Twice actually! I grew up with Mario Teaches Typing 2

[@Helidokter1]

Whenever Yahtzee says the term "Uncle" I already know the joke, and yet I still laugh

[@TheLazyEyebrow]

this is probably the first review I've seen that accurately depicts Mario Maker and doesn't have endless mind numbing praise for something that's been free for years. Thanks Yahtzee. somebody had to finally say it

[@Akaykimuy]

"Unsold Luigi amiibos".

[@isaacplayer4268]

+John More like unsold Peach amiibo.

[@LayZKimochi420BlazeIt]

+John You have to understand Australia is a different world all together.

[@temepeku]

+LayZ Kimochi come on, everyone knows that Australia is a mythical island that only exists in folklore!

[@adrian.c6460]

As an AustralianI can walk into any retail store and find a wall of amiibos that outnumbers all the games in stock that have at least 3 price cuts from $15 to as low as $1.50

[@sicarius4749]

On the escapist video, he said that he looked online, and Luigi was the lowest priced Amiibo, so it is somewhat accurate.

[@Dragonrider1227]

I absolutely adore Mario Maker and am severely addicted to it but this was funny. My only problem with it was how Nintendo's idea of marketing it was to go around and delete rom hacking videos/programs from the internet. And the they sit and wonder why the Wii U sold so poorly >_>

[@darthlobster]

Most of what Yahtzee said was true but that hasn't stopped me from having fun with Mario Maker, or designing good levels for it, or finding and playing good levels for it, so you know. I really enjoy this game and I think it was a pretty damn fine tribute for 30 years of Mario. A hell of a lot better than what they did for the 25th anniversary anyway.

[@RhysezPieces]

If someone likes it, it was worth making I'd say.

[@hydrogeddonn]

+darthlobster Don't remind me of tributes when Metroid's 25th anniversary was ignored for the legend of Zelda.

[@Jo_hann88]

+darthlobster The part about there being no difference between the game tile sets came across as willful ignorance.

[@Autom_te]

+darthlobster Yahtzee's words aren't supposed to put you off the game, it's just a guy whining about every little thing in a fast-paced comedic way.

[@darthlobster]

+Ninos FL When did I say Yahtzee put me off the game? I know this is a comedy show.

[@fatjesus1584]

I have two Luigi amiibos, thank you very much. I find Luigi's idiosyncratic nature as a character brings him a strange depth. Luigi is the lanky, aloof, dejected brother of one of the most iconic characters in media and this fact is generally accepted and flaunted by his creators. He is fantastic and having a tiny version of him propelling himself at another smirking version of himself using what I can only assume is fart power brings me endless joy.

[@davidgraziano6235]

+WanderingShyGuy don't matter, Luigi is one of the lowest selling amibos, he actually looked up sales charts

[@Fizzsama]

+WanderingShyGuy What Crystal Master said, but if I may inject my 2 cents *clears throat* Luigi is the single worst nintendo character ever made, and yes I know about Tingle.

[@DetectiveNyx]

+WanderingShyGuy So how far up your arse are those amiibos?

[@Kuuenbu]

+WanderingShyGuy I seem to remember Yathzee saying he rather liked Luigi.

[@psFACKfanboi]

+WanderingShyGuy "i have one of him touching his hat and one of him planking, THANK YOU UNCLE NINTENDO"

[@julesdlush]

I think this all boils down to... do you want to create mario levels or not? As there are no "professional" levels to play first, this has to be the primary motivation. If there was already a proper game underneath then it wouldn't matter. Clearly Yahtzee doesn't want to. In fact probably the majority of gamers can't be arsed to do so. And frankly I don't think I would. But there are millions who this appeals to 100%.

[@GoddessGamer]

I do really wish there was more to it, more enemies, more decorative aspects. something that makes each level unique in its own way with more bioms to!

[@cardijey6918]

+Goddess Gamer more decoration would really be nice but i think gameplay-elements wise it's already quiet good

[@Squishyepic]

What we need is more power-ups. Like if you could shake a Fire Flower for an Ice Flower. As far as *biomes* go, we need Snow, Desert, Beach, Volcanic, and one more: This one guy on Miiverse thought of a Tower theme. Ya know, like Castle, but vertically-based instead of horizontal.

[@Bluutuber]

+Comedy Beryllium WHAT WE NEED IS BLOODY CHECKPOINTS ALREADY. AIDJOAIHEYTUOHGIUAOEFHUIESHFVUIA

[@Squishyepic]

Bluuwolf SO TRUE!!!!!11!!!1111!!!!!11!!!!!@!!2!!!

[@SolarArmadillo]

+Goddess Gamer They needed to finish the game eventually.

[@Boolus]

That ending was fucking perfect.

[@nickkapanadze6158]

u sir are a musical genious

[@freemantle85]

Weirdly Yahztee's little boy voice reminded me of Thomas the Tank Engine.

[@thedandguy189]

God damn that part at 0:50 made me rethink everything about how I feel about modern Nintendo.

[@Shadowslash1]

That's what he does, my friend, that's what he does

[@biivamunner3122]

Probably

[@collinparks6414]

2:40, isn't that basically Hilltop Zone from Sonic 2?

[@dreamcaster100]

>Sega provides fans with beta releases, old game releases and technical support on game physics so they can remake old sonic games and romhacks >Nintendo shuts down and threatens to sue it's fans Why do people like Nintendo again? I don't hate them or anything but I've never seen a more hard-ass game company.

[@greyXstar]

Because people played Mario when they were 10, which means Nintendo is immune from any criticism forever.

[@ryansample6016]

Nintendo *is* overly protective of their IP (which is a major flaw in today's gaming world), but Nintendo has been well known for making great games (pretty much their entire game collection is great) and innovation (their most notable example being the third person shooter _Splatoon_). It doesn't hurt that Nintendo have quite literally, to put it in Yahtzee's words, "raised a generation".

[@muskatDR]

Sega does what nintendont

[@Nickmaster8811]

i wassnt even born then and yet i know this. Sega made their 2nsd console before the SNES and it said it had better graphics it was do the math and Sega does what Nintendon't (since is pronounced nin ten do [like do re mi fa fo sa])

[@littlefieryone2825]

Nintendo and Sega seem like opposite sides of the same coin to me. Sega tries to cater to the fans and try something new or at least gimicky, but often rushes their work without care or consideration. Nintendo releases solidly built games, but rarely experiments with formula, and often tries to push the trust of their fans as far as it will go without breaking. Nintendo irks me a little more. Maybe it's because I grew up playing more Genesis than NES, but I think it's more earnest to throw shit at the wall than letting the shit continuously grow in the hidden basement. What bothers me is that many Nintendo fans seem to willfully ignore Nintendo's dick moves and screw ups.

[@sanguisdominus]

"Right, so we're gonna make a new Mario game. Any ideas?" "Yeah, I got one. I can't be fucked to make any more Mario 2D platformer levels, so let's just not bother." "That's great, but what can we actually sell?" "Hmm, how about we get the players to do half of the game development for us? We can just recycle the same old 2d Platformer Mario elements, so we won't actually have to make anything new, then we sell them it as Mario Maker for the price of a full game!" "FUCKING GENIUS!"

[@ThomasG_]

Do Undertale next?

[@BroadwayBrittany]

+Thomas G I was actually just getting ready to post a comment making the same request XD

[@qqq386]

+Thomas G Or Deus Ex Revision

[@Mushroommate7]

+Thomas G He did a video on Soma and it's on escapist's website, dunno how people still dont know this...

[@Mushroommate7]

Tohlemiach It doesn't but im just saying he cant do Undertale next if he did Soma after this zero punctuation

[@PepperKatLancer]

+Thomas G goat mom simulator 2015?

[@GentleHeretic]

Nice to hear you're still working on "The Consuming Shadow", I thought you had swept game development under the rug.

[@Dogan_TM]

This comment section is a cesspool of "Yahtzee, play Undertale" "Yahtzee, there's more to it than just cosmetics" "Yahtzee, I still like the game" "Yahtzee, you suck at reviewing games" and shit like me complaining about the twats.

[@MunkeyChips]

+Dogan Well, I complained about Nintendo, and agreed with Yahtzee. So there's that....

[@junjiexie]

+Dogan All we need now is one of those sarcastic "Insert self-referential statement" comment threads and we will be attuned to the commentSectionHiveMind.

[@d0ngus]

knowing how he liked earthbound it wouldn't surprise me if he had played undertale. after all, everyone wanted him to review terraria at one point, but he's stated he likes it, and assumingly has no intention of reviewing

[@japooter6192]

Interesting. I fully respect your opinion on this game, as for me I feel this was missing a few elements. First of all, there is a slight difference between the four games. You gain different power ups depending on which game style you choose and has some game elements deemed impossible in the other game styles, such as wall jumping in the new format. Could it have more variety with backgrounds and cosmetics? Sure, it could. However, I just haven't found a use for such a mixture yet. It is quite annoying when playing automatic levels, or rubberross' levels for another thing, but I actually find the level creation not to be a novelty but rather a quite enjoyable experience. Hell, so many levels I can't upload due to me not having enough stars, but yet I create loads of levels beforehand and so have fun from my own personal use. Is it the best game? No. But is it here for a purpose? Indeed. SMM is here to celebrate 30 years of Mario, which actually to me seems quite fitting. 8/10

[@talonpop]

"Someone has to pay for all those unsold Luigi amibos" Daaaaamn lol

[@HarryBook]

Mario Maker = Happy Wheels

[@johnsmath62]

+Harry Book rate 5 stars to unlock super secret.

[@pureevil9496]

+Harry Book Pretty much. I thought the same when I was browsing through all of the stupid novelty levels.

[@LordFiscus]

+Harry Book FUCKING SPOT OOOOOOOON! Except that the accursed Pewdiepie hasn't played it yet. Be thankful there isn't 50000 "KZbinr play this" levels.

[@apsleymay3531]

Harry Book ALL HAIL LORD HARRY

[@Aithermaster]

PRAISE HE WHO THE PROPHET’S CHOSE!!!

[@coolidgedollar2154]

The "brightly-coloured smile through clenched teeth" at 1:38 actually reminded me of Hillary Clinton.

[@MaRiORuIz1984]

man, I really love reviewers that tell it like it is.

[@thezdude8512]

Pretty sure that the different game designs have different effects: new super Mario has wall jumping and spin floating, 3 has the p meter, world has the ability to spin and bounce off enemies, and original has costumes and the strange mushroom

[@paradoxacres1063]

Please play *HuniePop*. Pls, Yahtzee

[@Elleander1]

+Paradox Acres Yes.

[@usolanddescendantofnolanda2627]

God no, for all our sakes.

[@FiauraTheTankGirlGamer]

+Paradox Acres This might make us all die of laughter.

[@bennemeth625]

What's with all the perverts obsessing over that game? Do you honestly jerk off to it or is there something I'm not seeing here?

[@usolanddescendantofnolanda2627]

+We know No, WE KNOW that it would be fun to watch Yahtzee react to the horror that is that game. I think that's something you should've known.

[@FREEZE11850]

the more i listen to the drums in the intro it gets better and better

[@EpicLuigi24]

Maybe I'm stupid, but I think part of Mario Maker's appeal comes from the charm and fluidity of the interface, as well as seeing what people can do with the limitations. Plus, it's an official Nintendo level editor. That's pretty neat.

[@doctordink2782]

+TheLastGentleman Exactly. This video was kinda ignorant.

[@psFACKfanboi]

+TheLastGentleman yeah, but i still think not being able to use both the boot and the cape in the same level is kinda ludicrous. just let people have fun with all assets, dont restrict them to game themes.

[@marcogarcia7944]

WiiManElite yeah the no slopes arguement doesnt maje any sense once you considera the physics of slopes they are fucking messy like for example what happens if a twhomp crashes in beetwen two moving slopes or how would a koopa clown car crash with them in the end if you like level editing you will love this game if you dont you will hate it btw i think mario maker is great for puzzle making because everybody knows how everything reacts so you can run wild with your imagination

[@zelg.5551]

Making people pay full price for a level editor after slamming a sledgehammer on original fan games and rom hacks smells of cynicism and unbridled greed. Especially considering that MM was also given the axe and now you have to buy the same level editor *again* because they added "two" to the title.

[@jbreazy8335]

You sir are an artíst of the spoken word.

[@multirate1HDX]

3:20 the longest pause in a long time

[@theshuman100]

One punctuation

[@multirate1HDX]

@@theshuman100 bruh... i didnt even know i watcehd this :D

[@SomeGuy-cn5vm]

1:02 Jesus Christ, I somehow paused at just the right time and there's a pile of Luigi Amiibos flashing in and out of existence.

[@General_Weebus]

The salt from Nintendo fans is delicious.

[@Dinofly4]

I've been through multiple pages of the comment section and there hasn't been much salt at all.

[@junjiexie]

+Twinsen The debate between people who condemn Yahtzee's Nintendo bias and people who insist that Nintendo deserves it rages fiercely even as Yahtzee makes it clear he doesn't give a shit whatever others condemn, deserve, or think.

[@mr.peanut2096]

0:39, yeah but you don't have to be a mad computer genius to create levels. And as someone who actually is a computer nerd I've attempted to make a ROM hack and after about 3 hours I had maybe 30 seconds of a level that crashes every other time

[@NateWild]

Did Yahtzee accidentally leave Italy fused with the galaxy at 3:26?

[@Chdonga]

The un-modded version of Super Mario Bros X came out in 2010 and can do more than Mario Maker does after you've spent the 20 minutes idling in front of the canvas to unlock everything. I recommend it to anybody who wants to make Super Mario levels but doesn't have the know-how for ROMhacking. Just be wary as the community is deader than dust.

[@puzzlebark6677]

Lunar Magic is great, too.

[@glaciere-sama3529]

+Chdonga Nah. Played SMBX like 2 years before Mario Maker, and I think Mario Maker was better due to his presentation and simplicity.

[@Chdonga]

+ılıllı Turles is lost in the internet ılıllı You probably just like it more because it's an officially licensed Mario level editor and you're a brand loyalist. Mario Maker is way too barebones for anyone who dabbles in level design. Maybe they'll add more features in as DLC, but until then, I'm sticking with SMBX and Lunar Magic.

[@CandelaZ]

"Look everyone I've caught gonorrhea!"

[@_Singularity_]

This is a very good ZP video, I appreciated the great analogies.

[@megamegatron99]

and now we're gonna be getting Mario Maker 2 in June :D

[@enkiimuto1041]

0:55 SOMEONE ELSE REMEMBERS THIS! Now talk about how they sued a fan!

[@Queen_Nyxie]

4:39 At this point the name Ross comes to mind...

[@IamaPERSON]

Game grumps right?

[@derpitonmcherpiton1066]

@@IamaPERSON Yup

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

What, as in Ross's Game Dungeon?

[@RarefoilB]

Here's a brief summary of the crucial differences between those four seminal titles: SMB1's your plain vanilla, SMB3 lets you hold and throw things, SM World lets you hold and throw things _up,_ and New gives you wall and triple jumps.

[@MasterKurow]

After AM2R and Uranium, his comment about how Nintendo treats its fanbase is even more relevant

[@montanarandall3126]

and to think at the time this video came out I didn't think it wasn't going to be a serious problem until AM2R came out on the internet and nintendo did exactly what yahtzee said.

[@MiaowGaiGar]

"If we won't remake it, no one will! We'd rather outsource it to Team Ninja, so they can kill off the series and we don't have to bother anymore!"

[@insertclevername5068]

"and then wel will stomp on it a few your more times just to make sure it's dead."

[@that_guy_shawn4585]

"Cox with Blox".

[@smokinggnu6584]

"The kind of obnoxious difficulty somethingsomething Dahl villain would come up with" So he played one of Ross' levels, i take it?

[@BarHonigfeld]

Well, Mario Maker has a limited toolset and bad distribution methods, but now, over two years later, it is clear that there are a lot of very well made levels on there. Also, while many hard levels are trash, there are so many of them by now, that there is an abundance of good ones as well, and that is something Nintendo never delivered on and probably would never do so.

[@falloutghoul1]

Next video: Mailroom Showdown 2: The Stupiding.

[@GameBoyBlueATGMAIL]

The different pallets do act different. Different powerups. Different physics. Even different moves like wall jump or spin jump.

[@Catslug]

Not gonna lie, i would love to see an ant spunk into a tin bath

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

Actually there are some noticeable differences between the different mario styles. For one they all control exactly like their original games, mario 1 has that heavy momentum and nothing else, mario 3 is a bit more slippery and has the tanooki leaf, mario world has the cape feather spin jump and his momentum, and mario wee on you has the little spin that extends your jumps and the propeller suit.

[@dojix96]

I watched the Johnny Vs. review on this first, so now I was just noticing everything Yatzhee got wrong, which says to me that I shouldn't watch serious review first, because they ruin was Zero Punctuation is all about.

[@supervirtualboyshow]

3:10 Thats Super Mario Bros. 3 All-Star edition on the SNES, not the NES. I seriously WISH they'd let us use the All-Star version of SMB3, as I happen to feel that that version of that game is the best 2D Mario game ever made.

[@fredjonson1469]

I love this guy!

[@DrPepperDERF]

More like game chumps.

[@JonnyNitpick]

+DrPepperDERF All hail Dunkey

[@shauni1987]

This is only thing funny in this video :(

[@Poeneutral]

+DrPepperDERF That's 3 references in a row. Well done, sir

[@ZachRadical]

Fuck you Game Fucks.

[@Kemonokami]

+DrPepperDERF I prefer Peewee Didi, anyway...

[@FiauraTheTankGirlGamer]

Harsh....accurate....fun.....

[@EggheadsGuide]

The Uncle Who Works at Nintendo was a clever reference one can only expect from Yahtzee.

[@JustSomeDamnGinger]

This episode had some of my favourite Yahtzee-isms in a long time. "...a general audience that could get distracted by an ant spunking into a tin bath on the other side of the house..."

[@BendyPenguin64]

The different level styles aren't just cosmetically different. NSMBU is the only type where you can wall-jump, SMW is the only one where you can use the cape feather, each style has its own AI for certain enemies, etc.

[@ChristophBrinkmann]

Well thank goodness you pointed that out; I'm sure Yahtzee will completely change his review now

[@triplechocolate887]

i quite liked mario maker.. i'd say as of october 22 2015 its my game of the year, but hey everyones got their own opinion

[@Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan]

Level editors can extend a games life span by years. When people talk about Halo they never bring up forge witch I find strange. It's one of the best things about Halo.

[@MasterLPG]

3:17 "Here's a brief summary of the crucial differences between those four similar titles... That was it, it's just cosmetic really." Yahtzee might want to check his fact-checking to see if it is still in working condition, since many have reported that there are, in fact, gameplay differences in Super Mario Maker.

[@BiggCaZ]

And yet 2 years later, we're all still playing it.

[@GMODTF24EVER]

You should review Undertale next.

[@Yakes99]

3:15 Actually gameplay does change between the 4 game options. You can't pick up items in Mario 1, only Mario 3, Mario World, and NSMBU You can only wall jump in NSMBU You can only spin jump in NSMBU and Mario World. Mario 3 has the racoon tail, Mario World has the cape, and NSMBU has the propellor hat. Mario 1 has the amiibo mushrooms Spinning blocks are only in Mario World Bowser behaves differently in each title.

[@michelvanderlinden8363]

fun thing is, Mario maker had NOTHING on some of the best fan-made games (for example: Super Mario Bros X: The INvasion 2), and Nintendo made sure a lot of those games became illegal.

[@marcogarcia7944]

Michel van der Linden i use smbx to this day and the interface in smm is waaaaaay better but the liberty in smbx is ridiculous and the community

[@alexmammoth2916]

Lots of people are getting on Yahtzee for what he got wrong. So I'll credit him with what he got right: user level design. Medium difficulty on the 100 Mario Challenge is the way to go as most levels are "look how many enemies I can throw in here are a hundred stars have fun!" or "look how many traps I set I'm so smart I'm the next Kaizo Maker." The game is a lot of fun, but there is certainly a lot of room for improvement. One thing he DIDN'T hit on which I hate is not being able to edit levels once I've uploaded them. Still, the game is fun and I enjoy it.

[@hulkman245]

yahtzee. the only reason this channel has and deserves this many(and much more) subscribers

[@SuperStingray]

ROM hacks and mods will always be more versatile than in-game level editors, but they lack the same accessibility, publicity tools and often halfway decent documentation. Lunar Magic is great if you intend to make an opus and absolutely need to make fine, nitty-gritty changes, but Mario Maker is much more efficient if you don't know the first thing about level design, which is most people, or if you ARE experienced and just want to experiment much more quickly without jumping through the hoops of a mediocre interface.

[@JonnyNitpick]

IT CAME. IT FINALLY CAME! Gonorrhea.

[@dreww823]

It's a lot more convenient to be able to make mario levels in smm than downloading a rom hack and trying to figure it all out yourself. it's very user friendly.

[@DoseOfDhillon]

jesus christ, i mean it was fun. I didn't think he'd take that angle

[@dyldragon1]

I love it because how the game sets up getting you into levels

[@adrellisartarnovalrus2093]

summary: he hates nintendo and broke his Silent Hill 2 disc..ok maybe not broke it, but lost it.

[@qualifiedidiots2165]

I always tried to include 3 1ups at the start of my levels. Just in case someone's doing that 100 Mario challenge and got bull sharted in the previous mission by Ross.

[@Heavysweating]

I wonder if he's gonna review Undertale. Probably not, since the slightest critism againt it would create greatest shitstorm this channel has seen for a long time.

[@Riloussa1]

That would imply undertale fans had taste enough to watch yahtzee.

[@gaymanlover]

+James Bufferland He'll wait 'til the hype dies down then he'll crush any bit of enjoyment left in the game. Thats how it's been, and how it will always be.

[@stevedyssal2495]

+James Bufferland I don't know, he did a review for FNAF, which was a damned if you damned if you don't scenario where saying something good or bad would cause problems, as there was a large group of people praising it as the second coming and another claiming it as the birth of the antichrist, so it's quite possible he'll do one about Undertale between now and the boss rush of big-name titles that comes out starting November.

[@batofdestiny]

Is the fanbase really that bad? Is it the people that rip apart the game, calling a certain part idiotic that ticks off the fanbase? Granted, the game isn't flawless. Just one of those Earthbound look-like-alike games that provides you with a warm feeling.

[@stevedyssal2495]

Logan R. B. The issue is that a lot of fans see it as perfect, 10/10 quality. It is a fantastic game, perhaps even 9/10, but anybody who called Undertale perfection doesn't quite understand the definition of the word "potential". However if you were to suggest that the game isn't perfect to these people they'd either ignore you, insult you, or admit that it has some vague flaws without saying what they are and then continuing to call it 10/10.

[@nervmeister]

0:11 - 0:44 That segment alone makes the video. LMAO

[@RhodeynRusty]

It was lovely hearing Yahtzee this angry. Also, please do Undertale.

[@tomnomnom9265]

* Sees a zero punctuation video. Thumbs up. Carries on with life *

[@nanoco1000]

Actually the differences between the different "styles" of levels aren't all cosmetic. the 3d one has wall jumping and that air spin thing whereas the nes+ versions do not

[@supersmashbro596]

the stuff to unlock has been patched to where you can unlock all the building blocks (sans amiibo and weird mushrooms) in little more than 2 hours and... you really havent played them enough... but there ARE indeed differences. in physics, items, and even movement. for instance, can mario walljump, groundpound and spin jump in anything OTHER than nsmb? yoshi only exists in world and nsmb with the goombas shoe taking his place in 1 and 3.

[@CamJackel]

Careful Nintendo might put this video down.

[@sampappas6934]

there are now exactly 420 zero punctuation videos blaze it

[@Kemonokami]

And they still treat the beloved Star Fox franchise like a fucking _reptile,_ feeding it a cricket every now and then to remind people that it still exists. With Nintendo turning into a bunch of soulless wallet suckers, it feels like it's being held hostage at this point. I can't even place my faith in _board games_ because Games Workshop is going down the same path!

[@monkeyopolis72]

I seriously couldn't agree more. RIP Wazdakka =(

[@bjarkiorleifsson6100]

GW have been that way a while I'm afraid.

[@Kemonokami]

***** Umm, because of varying paint schemes and regiments, the opportunity to study and learn a craft, and the chance to show off your artistic skills and creativity.

[@KeithFraser82]

Ritualistic Fingertip Removal is my Zero Punctuation-themed band name of the week.

[@casualcraftman1599]

I know how to make Mario better. Make super Mario galaxy 3.

[@linebeck1381]

I have a Luigi Amiibo because I was buying alcohol with a fake ID and I wanted to distract the cashier from my fake by buying Luigi as well.

[@adrian.c6460]

My dad works at nintendo

[@SaintoftheHonest]

+Adrian .C no-one give a shit about your personal life. We're not interested in the contents of your pants and we don't like you - although in your defense, we don't know you, so we haven't had the chance to like you. Either way, shut the fuck up

[@adrian.c6460]

***** yeah well my dad could beat your dad

[@SaintoftheHonest]

Adrian .C Is this the part where I'm supposed to start acting immature as well? Because I really don't give a shit about your petty animosity. Just like I don't care about your life. I will point out the statistical unlikelihood of your father having an optimal physique - given that you've said he works for Nintendo. Just as a side query, how old are you? Because the last time I heard the "my Dad could beat your Dad" line, I was six years old and arguing with a seven year old ginger kid.

[@wanderergoat7706]

+Xatu Nightcore Chill out man, he was probably joking.

[@SaintoftheHonest]

Wanderer Goat I am chill. In fact, this guy's immaturity has made me laugh for the first time in days

[@jacksonlefteye]

i like when yahtzee says "baps", it makes me giggle

[@UltraPrimeHunter]

wow im usually on board with yahtzee's criticisms...but I think he really stretched it with this one.

[@StrangeAxel]

Big problem I had with it was -- no inclines. Something I noticed that were in Mario Bros 3 and World, but if I remember correctly were mostly absent in NSMB games. But of course, they had to fit all games into one engine so -- sacrifices...

[@DDTPZX]

You...do realize in order to do anything spectacular in rom hacks, it takes quite a bit of undoing in the games code to do it right? And even then it might come out like a glitchy garbled mess. Whatever Yahtzee.

[@jackinthebox7319]

+Shadow You I don't really get your point. Rom hacks can either turn out like absolute garbage or they can be fantastic, and everything in between; with super mario maker they'll turn out mediocre at best whatever you do. That's the trade off for hard work, you know. Nothing will turn out spectacular if you don't put a ton of effort into it.

[@Angelus.DGeist]

+Shadow You Well boo hoo, pull up your pantaloons and if you really wanted to do it you would. If it comes out a mess you figure out what you did wrong. As the saying goes "You don't know determination until you've seen a guy fuck a brick wall".

[@DDTPZX]

Welp, I mean, can't argue with that.

[@Dogan_TM]

And it also can turn out a hell of a lot better than this.

[@android19willpwn]

+Reakishin but this is Nintendo doing what Nintendo does best, and what it has been doing for a decade now: catering the the casual crowd. It's not as fulfilling or deep as the hard core stuff, but it's a lot easier to get into and mess around with and leave the experience having had some fun. There's a lot of people who, as we have seen, want to try their hand at making mario levels, but who don't want to put in the time required to learn to rom hack. They don't really need their levels to be amazing either, they just want a toy to play around with. They are casuals, in the most literal sense of the word, and this game is for them. Nothing wrong with that.

[@Mixa_Lv]

Mario Maker is still an evolving title that adds new stuff in it both by the devs and the community. Eventully most of the problems will get solved, and people will find workaround for the rest of them. It's pretty much what Minecraft did during its early life cycle; as a comemrcial game it was bit of a shame that Mario Maker had a lot of obvious feature lacking from the release, but already people know better what to expect from the game and how to enjoy it as much as possible.

[@Jacko1962]

Nintendo = the most overrated company and the only video game company you are not allowed to criticize

[@IamaPERSON]

@@cherrinewilson7973 I can't tell if you're joking, or if you're serious about this

[@de_markus_beasly2534]

0.26-1.00. One of the best nintendo wanting money rants ever

[@lliatto]

a brief summary of this video: "cuz nintendo! blablabla!! Mario ROMs!! blablabla! game's bad cuz of reasons!! blablabla!!"... there... I saved you 5 minutes

[@DeMomcalypseLive]

SamurayGiatto Is that really a brief summary, or is that literally all you heard and you didn't actually listen to what Yahtzee had to say?

[@Chidsuey]

For the record, Mario 3 adds shell manipulation and flying, Mario World adds Spin Jumping, and New Super Mario adds wall jumping. Minor differences to be sure, but they completely change the way one builds a level.

[@KidSnivy69]

You realize your on a Zero Punctuation video right?

[@Johnnythat1dude]

Oh yeah Yahtzee everyone has the ability to make fucking bootlegs and hacks to Mario all the fuck they want. Of course they'll be able to make them to the standard quality of mario they desire, and of course they'll obviously spend less than sixty bucks making this stuff. The opening argument is bullshit and fucking lazy to rip into. Most bootlegs and hacks are considerably difficult to make and usually prove to be rather shotty and filled with bugs and stuff. At the very least with this game we pay 60 bucks and we can make our own level glitch free and with all of the materials and enemies we want once unlocked.

[@Angelus.DGeist]

A summery of this grabble. "Pfttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt" Your welcome.

[@Johnnythat1dude]

AcidDragonPuncher You forgot three ts mate. THREE ts! THEY REALLY EMPHASIZE THE POINT!

[@sig4311]

+Johnnythat1 Dude ruby coding the API is free the langage straight forward to the point that even a not so good at math 6 year old kid can actually have fun coding something with it. Once an engine is created you can iterate all the fuck you want with it given that you basically have what Mario Maker is . On the flip side this very product could have been stellar if the few points pointed out by Yahtzee were replaced by their most sensible counterparts. Therefore the criticism is not only desrved but should be taken in consideration for future updates ...

[@JustAndre92]

None of which comes even remotely close to justifying all the sudden takedowns of anything romhack-related. _Mario Maker_ serves its purpose and serves it fairly well, but flagrantly abusing a legal grey area for the sake of erasing other tools that serve other purposes better is utterly indefensible.

[@Quintingent]

Honestly I don't have too many problems with this review. My only major one is when you mention that there are no differences between the different palettes. I have to dispute this. Here are the differences between the versions: Super Mario Bros: The Mystery Shroom, and the lack of the ability to pick objects up Oh, and the Goomba Shoe(s) instead of Yoshi. Okay, there isn't much with this, but there is one feature of this powerup that renders it unique: you can break blocks whilst still being the size of regular Mario. Doesn't sound like much but if you want a level with branching paths but restricting powerups to said paths then it can come in handy. And not being able to pick objects up means that the player can't muck up puzzle levels by moving something somewhere you didn't think, or throwing a crucial piece of the puzzle away. SMB3: The Super Leaf, and the P-meter as a result. It also has the Goomba shoe. Honestly, this is my least favourite palette to use. But the Leaf is the most restrictive flying item, so if you want a level where the player can fly, but not all the time, then this can be useful. And if you want the Goomba Shoe in a level where you CAN pick things up, then this is your only option. Super Mario World: The Cape, the ability to spin jump, the bricks are replaced with those spinning blocks, and the inclusion of non-flutter jump Yoshi. Honestly, the cape alone can change things up drastically, as can the spin jump (although that's also available in the NSMB palette). Yoshi has some interesting benefits, although he's not hugely helpful for platforming outside of using him to get a mid-air jump. NSMB: The Propeller cap, the ability to spin jump, the ability to spin 'stall' in the air, the ability to wall jump, the ability to ground pound, the ability to triple jump, AND Yoshi with a flutter jump. This palette has LOADS to work with. You do have to be careful though, as the extra movement options can hinder you in level design. My personal favourites are the two extremes: Super Mario Bros and NSMB. Super Mario Bros is more restricted, which makes designing levels where you want the player to follow a certain path easier, plus the Mystery Mushroom makes themed levels that much better. By contrast, NSMB has many movement options, which can make for an overall more interesting level. I should mention that there are some other differences, like how the two Bowser bosses attack, and what the goal is, but these are relatively minor. Still, as you can see each palette has several minor differences which leads to radically different level design - if used well of course.

[@Number9Robotic]

I'm really trying to like Yahtzee in these videos; I really am, but he's making it so damn hard. I understand opinions and criticism and all, and I understand why he doesn't like it, and that would normally be fine with me, but his reasoning is just... awful. I legitimately don't know what he's trying to do with Zero Punctuation; if he's trying to be more of a comedian he just seems too mean-spirited towards Nintendo to make his humor noticeable, leaving just a giant wall of anger overshadowing his genuine comedic talent. His intro joke about gratitude would've made me genuinely laugh if it wasn't for the sheer contempt he has in his voice. If he's trying to be more of a critic, I'm sorry, but he's so wrong at points that it doesn't make his anger excusable. I realize *wrongness* is an flame-war magnet in this context, but I believe there are perfectly valid arguments to a lot of what he says in this video. I don't believe Nintendo is a perfect company either, but Yahtzee is giving it more shit than it deserves. Yes, they commoditize a lot of fandom's current systems, especially that of fan projects and ROMHacks, but 1) everybody that owns extremely popular IPs is guilty of this in any media; it sounds like he's singling out Nintendo as the only company that does this that warrants bitter hatred, and 2) not everybody is capable of spending years learning how to program their own Mario ROMhacks. It's not as expansive, but there's a much simpler learning curve that gives people something they want (and you can't say with the shitload of videos on KZbin right now spreading their own levels they don't), but won't alienate people in the same way people don't like taking programming courses or learning any second language. Not everybody has the prowess to make platformers in Visual Basic, you feel me? I mean I genuinely understand where he's coming from, but the rebuttal is really that simple, and could've saved him a lot of comments correcting him. It's not like the internet doesn't exist for this shit (yes I realize it's a little late for this video but you get my point, right?) And you know what? I wouldn't mind this as much if he wasn't clearly so bitter. Dissenting opinions is what makes the world go round at this point. He's free to dislike Nintendo as much as I think it's an alright company. To spread his angry viewpoint with such vitriol is understandable, but when you can easily debunk 90% of it with a few Google searches in less than 10 minutes, it becomes misaimed and annoying, so much so that it makes ME angry, especially since ads are enabled on this video. I wish I can rant blindly and denying bias for a living, I really do. But I thought we kind of moved past that sort of archaic thinking to greener pastures... but evidently Yahzee is apparently the exception. Fuck.

[@doomrider7]

+Number Nine Yahtzee and Zero Punctuation stopped being about informing people and just being a shitty poor mans gaming version of Roger Ebert without any of what made Ebert so well liked and respected i.e. that he took every film he watched as a case by case study, could set biases aside, knew how to watch movies from the perspective of it's intended audience and rate them accordingly, and just REALLY loved movies and knew when to give his Thumbs Up. Yahtzee is just piss and vinegar with this shtick.

[@Number9Robotic]

Mister Christmas Hyperbole? Calling EA some multitentacled freak that communicates with a finger puppet is hyperbole for comedic effect. Calling Nintendo a so-called friend that only wants to steal your money is more of a direct accusation out of bitterness towards the company, directly personifying it as a more relatable entity that's mean to incite *anger*. And yes, in that way Nintendo is worse than EA, but what makes it more forgivable overall I think for not just me, but for a lot of people is that for the most part they remember to be a *video game* company, not a monstrous soulless commodities dispenser, and have provided games that shows they actually give a shit about the reasons why their fans give a shit. Say what you will, but Splatoon and Smash Bros 4 have sunk well with their main demographic as well as some periphery demographics, mainly because they give what they want: actual quality and love. Yes, the let's play thing is fucking stupid and whoever's in charge of that should get a blow to the head, but it's better than trivializing video games from being potential artforms into commercialized dreck as a whole like EA, Capcom or Konami.

[@Rkader11]

lel

[@jessevb]

+Number Nine Oh god just look at what you are typing. Seriously - look at it. Nintento games as a whole are no MORE artforms than something like CoD - that's not how art works whether you like it or not. Just as a doodle in a notebook is just as much art as the Mona Lisa - except in this case BOTH have been made with the explicit purpose of extracting money from the consumer. Nintendo care about their fanbase as long as they are paying them; they have never displayed anything in their games which would make me say they care more about their games as an artform. Just because they use a childish, innocent style that doesn't mean their games have more artistic value. Nintendo are comparable to the corporate christmas which has been created - mass produced joy and artificial colours which is made to sell to the masses under the guise of something with a heart. But there are games which have real messages, games which are truly meaningful and those which are innocent. Nintendo is none of those things, Mario has been going on too long for it to be that and is still the same thing. Nintendo ARE commercialized dreck - please you have to understand that. They might not be an FPS but that means little - it's just a question of who they are pandering too. They are just cute commercialized dreck rather than violent commercialized dreck. I can honestly say that Splatoon is the only title they have made in recent memory which is even worth talking about in terms of a game which doesn't feel like they just spinning their money-making cogs, randomly selecting an IP and hitting go.

[@Number9Robotic]

jessevb What I mean in regards to devaluing video games as an artform is one of substance, not message, and even then, I'm not saying Nintendo is exactly innovative either. My point is that Nintendo produce "bubblegum" video games. It's enjoyable and easy to absorb, but it's kind of a given you're not supposed to take it seriously, because beyond their family-friendly exterior, they are competent as a game developer. Not revolutionary, but not horribly regressive either. As I stated above, they're OK. They're harmless. They're not the fucking antichrist. And as for the whole issue of making money... that's kind of the nature of the industry now. They're a video game company; you can be all about the *art* of a game, but the bottom line is that money makes the world go round, and in an industry that makes more than movies nowadays, and the fact that developing games *is not free*, yeah, you're going to have to make some sacrifices. Yes, "art games" are much less about that, but that's not what Nintendo is about. Not every studio has to produce multiple "Spec Ops: The Line"s in order to be a good company.

[@josephmort4039]

I loved Mario Teaches Typing...