Super Simple, DIY, Air Turbine

[@doubleMinnovations]

A transparent fluid version: "kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH2xoatvZa-KnLs", and renamed it as a 'Rotating Flow Turbine'. Chose not to Patent it: "kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZnIkqGVhpiEosk"

[@zekeriasvarg530]

tesla turbine without plates

[@zekeriasvarg530]

did you measure temp in C on the air before and after? If doing so you will know the efficiency.

[@save_earth123]

🤔🤔We can use solar energy in night without using battery .....we need to just replace batteries by compressed air tanks ....in sunny days , solar panels will compress air in tank and at night we can use it to run alternators .....very simple ....now Elon Musk is also using compressed air battery .....

[@deantaylor1251]

I've been living off grid and building power generators for a few yrs. but you have sent me into a new direction I'm going to build one of these a bit bigger, thank you for this knowledge. 😎

[@doubleMinnovations]

It will be interesting to see what you come up with! My original idea that I started to Patent, was to use one of these in the vertical position, for micro hydro electric. Best wishes!

[@precisiont5188]

Did you make a small generator with compressed air? Like 12 volts out? If so, I am interested in buying one.

[@doubleMinnovations]

@@precisiont5188 No, I haven't made any generator attached to this, and I don't have any hardware for sale. Sorry, but thanks for your interest.

[@NurulGoni-e7z]

This is one of the best I’ve seen

[@purelyprimitives]

Nice concept. I have a few suggestions you could try. First, put the tire back on the rim. This would give the wheel a lot more momentum. This is why flywheels concentrate their weight on the perimeter. Second, I would add short interior blades to the rim so that the jet nozzle strikes them at a 90° angle rather than relying strictly on friction. You could also add a second nozzle depending on your supply. Keep up the good work!!!

[@doubleMinnovations]

I have some other videos on this type of turbine, and left further information in the comments of my thoughts and experiments. Working on another turbine now. Thanks for watching!

[@victoryfirst2878]

I like how you use simple things to prove your ideas. Well done fella.

[@doubleMinnovations]

I like simple. Thanks 👍

[@SoundRelaxus]

This is so crazy cool. Brother I wish you were my next door neighbor. We would be in the garage every day reinventing the universe. Lol

[@doubleMinnovations]

Thanks for the comment Steve! Would like to be inventing right now, but have homestead projects going that have priority.

[@acc819]

I loved the initial alien-mistery tune 😂

[@doubleMinnovations]

Sometimes I just feel like adding a little humor.😊 Thanks for watching.

[@yanikivanov]

This seem super efficient....so i see no blades and air escapes from center? Wow sir i am researching turbines for 12 years and this seem best design... Steam. Is. A future since fossils will end and then pellet powered steam cars will be all over...maybe in 40 years when gas will end...you are genius....cheers from Ukraine

[@doubleMinnovations]

Hello, this particular one doesn't not have blades, but it can have them; I was experimenting without them. Yes, the exhaust port is in the center. Thanks for commenting.

[@aldrinobliosca3335]

Very good idea and I think that it would be replaces into a bladeless steam turbine.

[@precisiont5188]

Can you make a generator with compressed air?

[@ericmol2614]

I wish you could have demonstrated the possible watt output. I'd love to hear that information. I was just talking to my friend today about using the Tesla water turbine design but with air pressure. An hour later and I see this video and showed him. They said about Tesla's design that if the discs were 3 meters and it could go 50,000 rpm then that would produce mach 13. Could u make yours with more interior discs? And what if you used the current design and tapered the air flow nozzle more? But you could mark a point on the external part of the external part of the wheel and then use a speed detection device for the mph and try to figure out the watt out put. I wish I had this info. I'd like to build a similar machine.

[@doubleMinnovations]

I have about 5 or 6 other videos on this type of turbine, but not in a playlist right now, so you would have to look through the uploads, but there's a lot more explanation. I changed the name to a 'Rotating Flow Turbine'. I would expect the output to be similar to a Tesla. Thanks for commenting!

[@TomTom-meltologist]

Nice one .. only thing is it needs to produce air to feed the tank so it never runs out of air another turbine more like a plane type thing could work to supply air back into tank be perpetual motion then produce its own energy to keep it spinning

[@kazuza9]

Very interesting idea. Hood work.

[@doubleMinnovations]

Thanks!

[@ericpham7871]

Thanks for bring this out early after the car companies took hundred of trillion in gasoline for our education

[@ovidiuioanoana]

E foarte bun experimentul in cazul tau doar ca daca vrei alt experiment e mai complicata treaba, turbinarea aerului precum un ventilator si prin centrifugare ai putea sa obti o energie dar trebuie un mecanism care sa regularizeze debitul de aer care este absorbit sau prin pereti laterali ai turbinei iste aripioare care controleaza turatia aerului la iesire din turbina ,Bafta .

[@waterfuel]

You should try building a replica of 1800's John Keely's self running hydraulic motor with useful output balanced flywheel. It had central rotating 4 way valve that produced 50lbs water hammer water pressure. Unit was seen running sawing wood, after alignment timing. patent application readable and can see sample model on You tube video. Also in new York years ago , there was a self running air compressor mounted on tank. It initially was hand turned until gauge had enough pressure in tank.40lbs output air ran air cylinder attached to crank on main compressor shaft keeping it going .The balanced spoke type heavy rim flywheel had extra energy coming from machined 3 parts vortex tube that heated air chamber insulated for higher pressure output. Tubes are purchasable or read back issue science mechanics magazine article on home made adjustable units with various washer sizes for hot and cold.

[@AnthonyCelata]

wow that actually works pretty good.

[@doubleMinnovations]

Thanks for watching!

[@user-yogeejudev]

To make 1 kilo watt of electricity, if it is to run continuously for 10 hours, then how many gallons of air tank will be needed and how much pressure should be ?

[@doubleMinnovations]

Hello, I'm sorry but I don't know the answer to your question. This is just the beginning of experimentation. Thanks for watching!

[@deantaylor1251]

It depends on the size of the wheel and the amount of drag, limited slip clutch is needed, even spring loaded would help. 😎

[@mrgevans5126]

Flywheel, may keep it running until the next compression is complete?🤞🤞

[@MykeHawke-r9r]

Very nice

[@philoso377]

Can we say this shares a similar principle of operation with Tesla’s disc turbine? For this design we have two disc surface.

[@doubleMinnovations]

The rotor disc in this experiment extracts energy from the medium by friction as it moves to the center outlet, like a Tesla disc. I think blades may work better, perhaps. It's different in design than a Tesla turbine, in that the whole housing turns. The Tesla turbine has a stationary housing that a rotor spins inside of. Thanks for watching!

[@philoso377]

@@doubleMinnovations You have a point moving envelop vs stationary. If we look at the operating principle, both source feed fluid from the circumference, drag along the intermediate surface, disc, before exit the center.

[@doubleMinnovations]

Without the moving 'envelop', like in a Tesla Turbine, the greatest frictional losses are going to be along the circumference. Where the greatest pressure will be. With this design we eliminate all that, except for a friction loss around the nozzle tube. Thanks for your interest.

[@philoso377]

@@doubleMinnovations yes Tesla design has frictional loss on stationary circumference. He doesn’t say we need a small gap between circumferences of wall and disks. Proper inlet porting can reduces friction by separating curved wall to disk edge. On the other hand moving wall is not without loss. The internal high pressure pipe gets in the way of vortex flow, is a challenged efficiency problem to resolve.

[@oscarverwey]

This is just how the Tesla turbine suposed to work the term that use is cohesion not friction what those the energy to be transferred into the spinning disc

[@warrenh3515]

Wouldn't you get more torque if you had some mini blades on the ID of wheel rim? Right now air is blowing against a curved surface.

[@doubleMinnovations]

I wanted to see how this would work without any interior blades. The rotating flow of air is moving against the interior of the turbine, and that friction is what is making it turn. An interesting thing; is that the rotating flow of air has to loose its rotational velocity in order to move towards the center exhaust. Or; more entering air needs increase the pressure inside of it to push it towards the exhaust, which would cause a greater increase in friction against the rotor surfaces, which would cause more torque. Then also; if the pressure increases inside the turbine, it would cut down the amount of air entering. -so I think that would cause some self-governing of the rpms. A lot to think about. Great question!

[@luisrosado4899]

How can I get written document for DIY build of the Super Simple Air Turbine?

[@doubleMinnovations]

Don't have any written document available right now, but if you watch all the videos in the playlist, all of the information is there. Thanks.

[@ericpham7871]

It got to have a stationary return line to be fuel less that run forever. I had a similar design for four wheel that put in the cars and drive forever

[@mikesherman8590]

Holy crap u did a good job I would die.

[@doubleMinnovations]

Thankfully I didn't die doing this. 😁

[@williamfosnaugh3293]

So it's a dumbed down Tesla turbine?

[@doubleMinnovations]

It's different than a Tesla turbine. A Tesla turbine has a rotor spinning inside stationary housing. In my design, the 'housing' is part of the spinning rotor. Thanks for watching.

[@precisiont5188]

I need a generator with this type of tech for charging 12 volt batteries so I can fill the air during the day and use the air to run a generator at night.

[@onekycarscanners6002]

How safe are compressed air cylinders that's the issue. For heavy duty continuous air recycle.

[@user-yogeejudev]

please detail how can use cylinder air pressure to generate electric from air turbine ?

[@zahariburgess3660]

a piston hits a ball valve, it releases air and it spins and releases the air and then comes back around and repeats like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2TbZJ6gYs6qmc0

[@reazuddinrezareza2841]

this is called alien technology. Thank you dear.

[@doubleMinnovations]

Not the aliens that pop out of stomachs though...😬 Thanks for watching.

[@Breegr]

This is just a simple version of a Tesla Turbine. Will work with air or liquid. Not very effencient.

[@doubleMinnovations]

The difference is; that in a Tesla turbine the housing doesn't rotate so there is a greater surface area of resistance loss along the circumference of the housing and rotor. In mine there is only the resistance loss of a small nozzle tube. Thanks for your comment.

[@zekeriasvarg530]

@@doubleMinnovations so think about it,, the air in tesla turbine does it make work on the housing? If so it will heat up, and that heat will be reused by new air coming in. But it will cool as the air expands from the nozzle. In your turbine the space there air can go to the center is large and therefore air can go directly out without doing work.

[@jagdishsahu5067]

Good idea sir

[@doubleMinnovations]

Thanks for watching!

[@bobciecko290]

i am a very interested novice wondering what is the torque produced for a given input air pressure and volume? For example, how long could you turn a generator with the tank you were using and at what PSI?

[@doubleMinnovations]

Hi Bob, this is the first air version I have made; so the short answer is, I don't know. I have not done much testing on it. The tank size I used in the video was 5 gallons, charged to about 115 psi. Like any motor/turbine, the load placed on it would determine the output, minus the losses. I have made other versions that used water. The one in this video: "kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZnIkqGVhpiEosk" had similar torque and rpm as my drill set on low speed. It was hooked up to a garden hose, at about 40psi. My original plan was for use of such turbines, was in low head hydroelectric. Future projects.😉

[@bobciecko290]

@@doubleMinnovationsThanks for your kind response. At the full speed shown in your video: 5 gallons @100psi lasted jhow long? and produced approximately what kind of torque...anything one might consider useful? I am exploring AIR DRIVEN turbine motors. Perhaps I should limit myself to piston engines if I want torque, but the simplicity and reliability of a turbine intrigues me.

[@doubleMinnovations]

Hi Bob; like I wrote before, I haven't done much testing on it to answer your questions; sorry. Just what you see in the video. An air turbine or motor needs a steady supply of pressurized air for much useful work. A pressurized tank will immediately start to drop in pressure, and will slow the turbine. It lasted long enough for the video, so I didn't have to have a noisy air compressor running. It's simple enough to build, and inexpensive. You could just build one and do the testing you want.

[@JoseRodriguez-ty7td]

Se podría editar en español

[@ronarmstrong835]

If one used metal end caps, I cant see why this wouldn't work for steam.

[@doubleMinnovations]

Working on a version now that I think will work. A vertical axis one so any water can drain out.. Thanks

[@Ryazanec-007]

КПД ?

[@luizhenriquethome8947]

Sou dono desta patente gerador pneumatico sustentável Luiz Henrique Thomé Brazil.

[@Jia-dp9cu]

You can make electricity from it . Please use an AC generator to produce voltage and use a transformer to make the high current which will run an electric motor to compress the air to refill the air tank which will maintain the pressure and flow of air 😊

[@adamsoltesz5237]

This is a 1 chamber tesla turbine

[@doubleMinnovations]

A Tesla turbine has rotating disks inside a stationary housing. My turbine has a rotating housing.

[@adamsoltesz5237]

Same principle. Your design is more functional for a lot of applications.

[@louxamd5819]

Tesla turbine without the layers

[@doubleMinnovations]

It's different in design than a Tesla turbine, in that the whole housing turns. The Tesla turbine has a stationary housing that a rotor spins inside of. Thanks for watching!

[@michaeltangusso9801]

China is already doing this

[@doubleMinnovations]

I don't know what China has, but I came up with this turbine design in the 1990's. Had a Patent Search done, and found that it was clear for patenting, but I didn't have the resources so I let it go. It's been in the public domain since then.

[@steven12395]

Build a tesla turbine