Supermesh Explained (with examples)

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@JanFinsch
@JanFinsch 7 жыл бұрын
got exam 2morw , instead of wasting time on 1hr+ lectures i stumbled upon your channel and man you are great at explaining all the complex stuff (not complex at all after watching your vids) in less than 10-15 mins! love you!!!!
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 7 жыл бұрын
Wish you ALL THE BEST for your Exam.
@satyanarayansahu4957
@satyanarayansahu4957 4 жыл бұрын
Sir at 3:14 in mesh 2 the value of v2 should be 3(I2-I1) BCZ we consider that current bigger which is in the mesh we are doing the operation ..
@keyleegibbons9950
@keyleegibbons9950 5 жыл бұрын
Have not been able to understand Supermesh or Supenode from my class notes, you explained it so easy in this video and your Supernode one! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Shreyashi07
@Shreyashi07 4 жыл бұрын
When we are working with loop I2, why is it still I1-I2, instead of I2-I1 at the time 2:57 of the video? Any clarification is greatly appreciated
@aadi.p4159
@aadi.p4159 5 жыл бұрын
Dude my teacher spent 2 hours on this garbage nd he cleared it in literally 10 mins
@ahsansaeed4823
@ahsansaeed4823 3 жыл бұрын
he means your teacher??? hahaha or this tutor(you)
@lombemumba4397
@lombemumba4397 3 жыл бұрын
THIS EXPLANATION IS SO CLEAR THANK YOU KEEP MAKING MORE VIDEOS
@praveens4828
@praveens4828 7 жыл бұрын
simply superb.Just 10-15 mins is awesome
@reubenwilliammpembe667
@reubenwilliammpembe667 6 жыл бұрын
thank you Sir you are the best!!! #RespectFromSouthAfrica
@kalyan7589
@kalyan7589 4 жыл бұрын
Will you please explain how you written KVL at Mesh 2 like -6I2+4(I3-I2) +2(I1-I2) =0 I think it was -6I2+4(I2-I3) +2(I2-I1)=0
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 4 жыл бұрын
In the mesh -2, the net current flowing through the 4 ohm resistor is I2 - I3. And it has been assumed that the current is flowing from right to left. So, while applying the KVL, in clock wise direction, the voltage drop acorss it would be - 4 (I2- I3). But here it has been written as 4*(I3 - I2). Same is the case for 2*(I1-I2) I hope it will clear your doubt.
@Keshavsworld
@Keshavsworld 3 жыл бұрын
Please help sir You've told us in previous videos that.. when apply kvl in a mesh then the current of that should be considered as the higher current than the other mesh... But at 2:55 you write the opposite thing their..... Is it right their or am i just confused ? Please tell me sir
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's one of the same thing. Here, I have considered voltage V2 polarity. If you go with an earlier convention, then it would come as 3 (I2 - I1). Here it is (-3) (I1 - I2). therefore, it's the same thing. I hope it will clear your doubt.
@Sportsman134
@Sportsman134 5 жыл бұрын
for mesh 2 shouldn't it be 3*(I2-I1)
@ashishjog
@ashishjog 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, one doubt, At 11:15, how you assumed that current flowing through 4 Ohm resistor is (I3-I2) and through 2 Ohm is (I1-I2); in this comment section actually, there are many people who asked this doubt, and you replied to them but still, I don't understand the reason behind it.
@kedarbikkannavar5907
@kedarbikkannavar5907 2 жыл бұрын
You can assume anything which you want just that the signs would be reversed in that case. He is focusing on the voltage sign convention he had given to that 4ohm resistor (ie that + and -)..so whichever current enters the +ve he took it greater than the one entering the -ve.
@dinethfonseka990
@dinethfonseka990 4 жыл бұрын
In the last example shouldn't we consider about the 2 ohm resistor connected series to the current source
@veeralakshmimuddana5831
@veeralakshmimuddana5831 4 жыл бұрын
Good explanation sir,and hope u have bright future in this area
@soul2197
@soul2197 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks from my deepest heart possible
@Venceroam
@Venceroam 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Indian guy😍😍😍
@mayurshah9131
@mayurshah9131 7 жыл бұрын
Superb Presentation
@sunnyvj2636
@sunnyvj2636 6 жыл бұрын
Sir in that super mesh technique (last sum) we have to neglect that 2ohm resistance connected to current source
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, because here we are interested in the current (I1 -I3). And current in series through the resistor will remain the same.
@sunnyvj2636
@sunnyvj2636 6 жыл бұрын
@@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS thanks sir
@sachinrath219
@sachinrath219 2 жыл бұрын
at 5.58 in the video instead of using v,can we use iR as v= iR,thanks.
@soniyawawhal7234
@soniyawawhal7234 5 жыл бұрын
Does the direction of arrow change the sign of current
@DineshGupta-fp7il
@DineshGupta-fp7il 5 жыл бұрын
how to determine the polarity of current in supernode or supermesh such as I2 - I1 or I1- I2. pl explain it.
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 5 жыл бұрын
Depending on the direction of the assumed current I1 and I2 (clockwise or the anti clock wise), it can be decided. In fact you can choose any of them. The final output will remain same. Because let's say if you choose i1 -i2, then you will get negative answer. But at the end you will get the same answer. I hope it will clear your doubt.
@014arunkaruppaiah.n2
@014arunkaruppaiah.n2 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation
@yking9889
@yking9889 4 жыл бұрын
Can we take i2-i3 current in 4ohm resistor in last question
@ishitapinto5089
@ishitapinto5089 4 жыл бұрын
What I do when voltage is connected in series with resistor should I do source transformation or just continue with is as it is given
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 4 жыл бұрын
It depends on the circuit. Sometimes it is better to use source transformation to simplify the circuit, while sometimes it is good to leave it as it is.
@puttapallisatishyadav222
@puttapallisatishyadav222 3 жыл бұрын
Y it should be I3-I2..The current through 4ohm resistor? It may be I2-I3
@harshkunvariya1714
@harshkunvariya1714 4 жыл бұрын
At (11:23) in equation you put -6i2+4(i3 - i2)*+2(i1 - i2)* is it right?
@maniyadav3863
@maniyadav3863 Жыл бұрын
Same doubt
@sleephourofmotivatwakeupas6512
@sleephourofmotivatwakeupas6512 6 жыл бұрын
The explanation was really awesome.. Thank you so much... But can you explain about selection of sign of the nodes please.
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 6 жыл бұрын
Do you mean the sign of the current in the mesh?
@physicsdemonstrations2426
@physicsdemonstrations2426 3 жыл бұрын
@@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS yes
@diannahelgeemaesampilo9984
@diannahelgeemaesampilo9984 7 жыл бұрын
this is really really helpful! thanks.
@thalapathybalaji23
@thalapathybalaji23 3 жыл бұрын
But how did u get I1=4 Ampere without simplifying?
@SriramB-
@SriramB- 4 жыл бұрын
super explanation bro
@nageshreddy4974
@nageshreddy4974 6 жыл бұрын
u r great man.....ty
@sssenterprises7497
@sssenterprises7497 7 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation, thanku so much
@kajalgoyal9544
@kajalgoyal9544 4 жыл бұрын
Sir super mesh ke 2nd question mei 2ohm resistor ko eqn. Mei kyu nahi liya
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 4 жыл бұрын
Because the current through 2 ohm resistor is 3A. Sine the current source is attached at one end, it means the current entering into 2 ohm resistor is 3A and the same current is also leaving through it. Therefore it is not considered in calculation. I hope it will clear your doubt.
@factknowledge3297
@factknowledge3297 6 жыл бұрын
sir can you please do this sum for me the question is using mesh analysis find the v1 of the circuit shown in the diagram
@parag1583
@parag1583 6 жыл бұрын
Badiya bhai, keep it up
@gandretiganesh412
@gandretiganesh412 6 жыл бұрын
good explanation sir thank you.....
@emirk8
@emirk8 5 жыл бұрын
the last example's solution should be i1=6a i2=11/3 and i3=3a
@sru.jaan.ah14
@sru.jaan.ah14 6 жыл бұрын
Sir,when both the currents i1 and 3A are going in the same direction,why did you take it as i1-i3=3A at 10:56?
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, this equation or relation is not based on KCL. But just by inspection, you can observe that current I1 is flowing in the clockwise direction while current I3 is flowing in the counterclockwise direction. So, we can say that net current flowing through the 2-ohm resistor is I1- I3, which is flowing in the downward direction. And current through 3A source is also flowing in the downward direction. So, we can say that I1-I3 should be equal to 3A. I hope it will clear your doubt. And if you still have any confusion then do let me know here.
@sru.jaan.ah14
@sru.jaan.ah14 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@pallab10
@pallab10 7 жыл бұрын
great explanation.....!!
@PRAKASH-hp6eg
@PRAKASH-hp6eg 3 жыл бұрын
At 10:52 doesn't the 2ohm resistor make any effect?? Any one who know can please reply me🤝
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 3 жыл бұрын
Since it is in series with a current source, it will not have any impact on the currents.
@souvikpramanik5183
@souvikpramanik5183 6 жыл бұрын
LOVE U SIR❤️❤️
@koyasrinath3283
@koyasrinath3283 7 жыл бұрын
Is 2ohm resistor series with current source can be neglected??
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 7 жыл бұрын
No need to neglect 2 ohm resistor which is in series with current source.
@shayansiddiqui1931
@shayansiddiqui1931 7 жыл бұрын
why u put negative sign before 2 at 9:56 ?? since the current is coming from positive terminal
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 7 жыл бұрын
Here, we are applying KVL. And 2(I1-I2) is the voltage across 2-ohm resistor. Now, while applying KVL we are moving from higher to the lower potential across 2-ohm resistor in the supermesh. So, the negative sign has been taken for the voltage across 2-ohm resistor. I hope it will clear your doubt. But if you still have any doubt then do let me know here.
@kasiergwapo
@kasiergwapo 6 жыл бұрын
I think the equation at Mesh 2 is wrong. It is supposed to be -6I2 - 4(I3-I2) - 2(I1-I2) = 0 -6I2 - 4I3 + 4I2 - 2I1 + 2I2 = 0 -4I3-2I1 = 0 -2I3 - I1 = 0 I got my equation from the direction of the current in each resistors. Correct me, If I'm wrong thanks.
@kasiergwapo
@kasiergwapo 6 жыл бұрын
11:35
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, the equation depends on how you take the sign convention. Here it has been assumed that in mesh 2, the net current is equal to I3-I2. Which is flowing from right to left. And accordingly, the voltage drop is shown across the 4-ohm resistor. Now, if you apply the KVL in the mesh and move around the mesh in a clockwise direction then the voltage across the 4-ohm resistor is increasing as we are moving from lower to the higher potential. So, the positive sign is taken for the voltage drop across the 4-ohm resistor. The same is true for 2-ohm resistor. I hope it will clear your doubt. And stil lif you have any doubt then do let me know here.
@kasiergwapo
@kasiergwapo 6 жыл бұрын
ALL ABOUT ELECTRONICS Thank you :D
@reetikjoshi1087
@reetikjoshi1087 6 жыл бұрын
Does 2 ohm resistance have no voltage drop near 3A current source un last eg.?
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 6 жыл бұрын
Of course, there is a voltage drop across the 2-ohm resistor.
@MrOptimusPrime.
@MrOptimusPrime. 5 жыл бұрын
@@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS you missed to add it to equation 2, i mean 2 ohm resistance in series with the current source.
@madhanbk2002
@madhanbk2002 3 жыл бұрын
In 2nd eg mesh 2 resistance always voltage drop not voltage gain ypu did wrong sir
@kieroribello4684
@kieroribello4684 5 жыл бұрын
Sir how did you come up with -6(I2)+4(I3-I2)+2(I1-I2)=0 at 11:22? I'm a little bit confuse with the signs.
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 5 жыл бұрын
Better you assume the voltage across each element first. Let's assume it as V1, V2, V3. Where V1, V2, and V3 are the voltage drop across 6 ohm, 4 ohm and 2 ohm resistors respectively. And if you apply the KVL with the assumed signs, then it can be written as, -V1 + V2 + V3 = 0 Now, V1 = 6*I2, V2 = 4 (I3- I2) and V3 = 2 (I1 - I2) (Here, it has been assumed that the net current I3- I2 and I1 -I2 is larger. ) Now, if you put the value of V1, V2 and V3, then you will get that expression.
@kushalgarg7367
@kushalgarg7367 5 жыл бұрын
@@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS NO SIR V2 = 4 (I2 -I3) and V3 = 2(I2-I1) THIS IS CORRECT AND IT DOESNOT DEPEND ON WHICH IS BIGGER , DIRECTION MATTERS
@saeedabdullah1734
@saeedabdullah1734 6 жыл бұрын
THE 3rd EQUITION in a SUPERMESH is wrong YOU MUST START WIT 6(I2)+4(I3-I2)+2(I1-I2)=0 WHY You started with -6 answer please
@TheBigWins
@TheBigWins 5 жыл бұрын
exactly
@aaronjoshuasarmiento6539
@aaronjoshuasarmiento6539 5 жыл бұрын
The sign is negative if it is a voltage drop and it's positive if it is a voltage gain. I don't think it's wrong. It's just a different approach from yours where you consider the polarity of the terminal encountered first as you travel around the loop. Whatever approach you use in deciding which sign to put, you will arrive with the same answers anyway.
@hemanthkumar5259
@hemanthkumar5259 5 жыл бұрын
What about the 2ohms resistor placed below the 3A
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 5 жыл бұрын
As, it is in series with 3A source, the same current will also flow through 2 ohm resistor.
@apoorva158
@apoorva158 6 жыл бұрын
Nice sir
@jayeshsonawane7397
@jayeshsonawane7397 7 жыл бұрын
In supermesh section there is a resistance of 2ohm below the current source why we had not calculated it??
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 7 жыл бұрын
You mean to say, while writing I1-I3 = 3A right? Well, actually it is not required. Because current through that 2-ohm resistor will be 3A only. And we are only looking at the current. If we are calculating the voltage then we need to consider the voltage drop across that 2-ohm resistor. I hope it will clear your doubt. If you still have any doubt then do let me know here.
@jayeshsonawane7397
@jayeshsonawane7397 7 жыл бұрын
thanx
@arshadahmed8605
@arshadahmed8605 7 жыл бұрын
ALL ABOUT ELECTRONICS sir if we are calculating voltage what ill be the equation with resistor consideration..
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 7 жыл бұрын
well, you can find the voltages too across each element, once you know all the currents in the circuit. Using KVL, it's easy to find the voltages across each element. I hope you understood.
@SURAJKUMAR-fp6zb
@SURAJKUMAR-fp6zb 6 жыл бұрын
I got a question where there was a current source in place of the 8 v voltage source .how to solve it??
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 6 жыл бұрын
Do you mean to say, additional current source along with 3A current source? Or without 3A current source.
@SURAJKUMAR-fp6zb
@SURAJKUMAR-fp6zb 6 жыл бұрын
Additional source along with 3 A current source
@KaveriJayan
@KaveriJayan 4 жыл бұрын
U r taking opposite sign convention for currents in equation..
@overlordbeast1792
@overlordbeast1792 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You Sir👍🙏
@aravindreddy1792
@aravindreddy1792 5 жыл бұрын
super explanation
@kushalgarg7367
@kushalgarg7367 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks but i think last question 3rd equation is wrong please verify
@olaayman1900
@olaayman1900 4 жыл бұрын
thank you
@priyankak6748
@priyankak6748 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot👏👏👏👏💪
@SanjitKumar-kh1hj
@SanjitKumar-kh1hj 6 жыл бұрын
Really helped me. ;)
@sudeepsaha452
@sudeepsaha452 6 жыл бұрын
Nice thanks.
@milliepeg01
@milliepeg01 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@pamulaparthivishal2995
@pamulaparthivishal2995 5 жыл бұрын
Bro this is Vishal I have a suggestion can you plzzz Remove the sub titles so,that the diagram is visible
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 5 жыл бұрын
If you are watching on PC then you can simply drag the substitle anywhere on the screen. On smartphone, for some period you can turn of the subtitles in the video setting. I hope it will solve your problem.
@parmod7506
@parmod7506 5 жыл бұрын
2ohm resistor ko kvl of supermesh mai use nhi kiya Why
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 5 жыл бұрын
Because, the current through 2 ohm resistor will be 3 A only. In short, anything in series with current source, won't affect the supermesh equation.
@prajwalpatil792
@prajwalpatil792 7 жыл бұрын
please explain me HOW 3( I1 - I2 ) COMES......?
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 7 жыл бұрын
Would you please exactly tell me the timing in the video where you are having doubt?
@prajwalpatil792
@prajwalpatil792 7 жыл бұрын
ALL ABOUT ELECTRONICS 2:03
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 7 жыл бұрын
In that example, the direction of mesh currents I1 and I2 were assumed in the clockwise direction. So, the effective current through 3-ohm resistor will be I1 - I2. And voltage across it will be 3(I1-I2). I hope, it will clear your doubt.
@prajwalpatil792
@prajwalpatil792 7 жыл бұрын
thnk i got it
@naderaljorf2835
@naderaljorf2835 7 жыл бұрын
what is the name of intro music ??
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 7 жыл бұрын
I have given a link in the description. The exact name of the song is buddy I think.
@Sk-ew7cn
@Sk-ew7cn 6 жыл бұрын
नमस्कार @10.12 how can we say current flowing through 4 ohm resistor is I3 - I2. Plz. Tell me
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 6 жыл бұрын
We have assumed that the I3 is greater than I2. So, net current flowing through will be equal to I3-I2. And hence drop across 4-ohm resistor is from left to right. You can also assume that I2 is greater than I3. (i.e drop across 4-ohm resistor is from right to left, and can get the same result.) It's just sign-convention that we have assumed for the calculation.
@Sk-ew7cn
@Sk-ew7cn 6 жыл бұрын
ALL ABOUT ELECTRONICS Thanks for your response. @10.05 we take I1-I2 for resistor 2 ohm resistor. Hence same current will flow through that branch till it diverts to 4 ohm resistor. So current in 4 ohm should be less than current in 2ohm resistor. Therefore (I1-I2) - I3 is to be consider. If I3 is flowing through current source and 2 ohm resistor. I'M NEW IN THIS. PLZ CLEAR MY DOUBT शुक्रिया 🙇‍♂️
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 6 жыл бұрын
Here, current I1, I2, and I3 are the mesh currents. And here we are assuming that they are flowing in particular mesh only. So, if you consider the 2-ohm resistor at the top, it will interact with mesh current I1 and I2. While the 2-ohm resistor at the bottom will interact with mesh current I1 and I3 only. I hope it will clear your doubt.
@Sk-ew7cn
@Sk-ew7cn 6 жыл бұрын
ALL ABOUT ELECTRONICS I understood. बहुत बहुत धन्यवाद
@trinadharaoakula2448
@trinadharaoakula2448 6 жыл бұрын
Super mess some more examples kavali
@alyattalla8520
@alyattalla8520 5 жыл бұрын
Theres a mistake in the second problem
@mraju2357
@mraju2357 6 жыл бұрын
Decrease ur speed sir
@muhammadijlal3216
@muhammadijlal3216 5 жыл бұрын
I would not recommend his videos. They might get you the answers but will surely destroy your concepts. He is making the equations all in the opposite direction of the currents he is taking.
@aaronjoshuasarmiento6539
@aaronjoshuasarmiento6539 5 жыл бұрын
As I've replied to the other comment, "The sign is negative if it is a voltage drop and it's positive if it is a voltage gain. I don't think it's wrong. It's just a different approach from yours where you consider the polarity of the terminal encountered first as you travel around the loop. Whatever approach you use in deciding which sign to put, you will arrive with the same answers anyway." The approach in this video will not destroy your concepts. In my opinion, his approach illustrates the concept of KVL better than the approach you are used to.
@factknowledge3297
@factknowledge3297 6 жыл бұрын
sir can you send me your facebook page link
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 6 жыл бұрын
facebook.com/ALLABOUTELECRONICS/
@chiduralasunandha3353
@chiduralasunandha3353 5 жыл бұрын
I had a doute
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS
@ALLABOUTELECTRONICS 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, please let me know here.
@AmitKumar-cx3ps
@AmitKumar-cx3ps 3 жыл бұрын
Who asked
@krishnateja972
@krishnateja972 6 жыл бұрын
its a bad presentation i didnt understand
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