Superstitious Side of Cus D’Amato & Boxing

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@user-gy5xl6mq2j
@user-gy5xl6mq2j 5 жыл бұрын
He let Tyson back in because Tyson was not your ordinary prospect.....
@martinamicflyy2618
@martinamicflyy2618 5 жыл бұрын
#47 Wow!!............... kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZ3Yf6iMpZeSiqc
@akh5131
@akh5131 5 жыл бұрын
#47 fr how the fuck is he gonna make him stay out of the gym when he’s striving to be the heavy weight champ of the world
@CJ-ch9sh
@CJ-ch9sh 4 жыл бұрын
But what would have been better for him
@sheruffa6032
@sheruffa6032 4 жыл бұрын
@@akh5131 however you can't show these differences in the presence of the other guys, do you understand the problem? You have to strive to make everyone feel equal!
@hgee272
@hgee272 4 жыл бұрын
CusDa’Mato understood that he had a real life Monster 👹 He didn’t want to tame him, he wanted to control him so he could sic him on other fighters. He wanted mike to keep his animalistic behaviors and instincts. That’s what made Mike so vicious and scary! Teddy is speaking from a place of jealousy. He envied Tyson and Cus relationship. Before Mike, Teddy was the adopted son after Mike Teddy became the black sheep!
@MultiWeen
@MultiWeen 3 жыл бұрын
Teddy is one of the greats but mentally and probably emotionally has a certain disdain for Cus and Tyson individually, but especially their relationship. Teddy has his reasons including how much he has sacrificed for his trade yet to always be overshadowed in a way by the Lore of Cus D'amato the greatest boxing coach that ever lived.
@JockTalk7
@JockTalk7 2 жыл бұрын
good analysis.
@bestavatar8986
@bestavatar8986 2 жыл бұрын
Or he's sees Tyson as a rapist, pedophile and a weak quiter.
@Priceluked
@Priceluked 2 жыл бұрын
Well that's because Mike and Cus' relationship was so toxic. Cus basically just used Mike for his own self glorification and because of Mike's success he succeeded.
@Beer-can_full_of_toes
@Beer-can_full_of_toes 2 жыл бұрын
Also Mike did some shit to a female relative of Teddy’s. I understand his reasons.
@Ditka-89
@Ditka-89 2 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson groped/sexually propositioned Teddy Atlas’s 11 year old niece. And atlas got fired by his own mentor/father figure for punishing Mike. Most people would be bitter
@glockspecific7757
@glockspecific7757 5 жыл бұрын
I don't like the way he talks about Mike personally, he holds a lot of that stuff personally still....
@flahertyrick88
@flahertyrick88 5 жыл бұрын
@SWP 215 he was 16 try again
@flahertyrick88
@flahertyrick88 5 жыл бұрын
@SWP 215 once again let someone diddle ya niece you would just forgive him your a disgrace
@lanceuppercut7477
@lanceuppercut7477 5 жыл бұрын
SWP 215 don’t mind this loser he’s dropping the same reply on other comments too. It’s probably teddy the fucking lying loser himself.
@Who-I-be40
@Who-I-be40 5 жыл бұрын
@@flahertyrick88 There is always two sides to a story. Atlas was mad cause Cus and Mike did not want him anymore.
@lanceuppercut7477
@lanceuppercut7477 5 жыл бұрын
flahertyrick9188 Hahahaha internet tough guy!! What have you done with your life? Eh expect go around putting people down to make yourself feel better about your shitty life. You’re a hateful man and that’s obvious to anyone reading your comments. I see you still haven’t given me that link to where Tyson’s admits to diddling kids, he admits to slapping her arse at the age of thirteen, you call that diddling?? You’re just a hater man plain and simple. Like I told you already karma will get you back for spreading hate and lies about people you don’t know. Also what the fuck were you trying to say in that last comment. Get a friend to proof read for you in future. Oh wait sorry. That’s why you’re on here spreading hate. No friends?? 🤷‍♂️ I understand why, you aren’t a nice person. Go on use the only line you have, tell me again I diddle kids. Fucking loser 😆😆🖕
@Mike37551
@Mike37551 Жыл бұрын
Superstitions are rituals that you can use to center yourself and marshal your power. They can help bring everything within you into alignment. They represent the power of faith. Also regarding Cus letting things slide with Mike: I think part of what made Mike so intimidating to his opponents was his complete resistance to being civilized. It’s hard to occupy the mindset of pure bad intentions if you’re constantly worrying about how your actions affect other people. If you want to be a powerful monster, that little voice in the back of your head…it needs to go. You can’t be a juggernaut if you allow yourself to get dragged into that frame. Winning has to be the only thing. If you really want to understand what Cus did for Mike, Friedrich Nietzsche has something to say on the matter. Mike is such a tortured soul because of what society is, NOT because of what he is.
@John-bv1lx
@John-bv1lx Жыл бұрын
Wow, very profound analysis. I agree that cus had to tame a wild and savage soul which needs lots of forgiveness and patience which in my eyes is a virtue rather than being "tough" and never letting anything go. There is strength in understanding
@GurpreetSingh-ow5vy
@GurpreetSingh-ow5vy 10 ай бұрын
Great analysis you did here. I have observed this pattern of parenting also.
@iamagodofwar
@iamagodofwar 3 ай бұрын
this makes alot of sense
@Dkdkd234
@Dkdkd234 2 ай бұрын
You don't know how much I needed that comment. I will reply the result
@blakeada999
@blakeada999 5 жыл бұрын
Patrick is REALLY becoming a special interviewer. The rapport and trust he builds with the people he interviews brings one-of-a-kind conversations to the world. Thanks, Patrick. So many good things are coming out of this series.
@dudeyes7261
@dudeyes7261 5 жыл бұрын
No he doesn't.
@timothyweaver1748
@timothyweaver1748 5 жыл бұрын
He's average at BEST.. He should allow other people do the interviews. Patrick isn't informed enough going into the interview.
@blakeada999
@blakeada999 5 жыл бұрын
​@@timothyweaver1748​That's an interesting opinion. Mine was based off of what other people share with him, rather than what Patrick says. Where do you think his being uninformed affects the quality of the information he gets people to share?
@timothyweaver1748
@timothyweaver1748 5 жыл бұрын
@@blakeada999 he would be able to get deeper into a person's background if he took the time to research them beforehand. If you'll notice the questions he asks his guests are very similar across the board. People want to hear things that are intriguing in ways that other interviewers haven't already asked. Also the topics in which they discuss is often very generic. The interview with Stephen A Smith for example was very bland. Nothing that we didn't already know nor any discussion about current events.
@blakeada999
@blakeada999 5 жыл бұрын
@@timothyweaver1748 Thanks for sharing, I'll look deeper into it. I realize that the people I see him interview are people I've never seen interviewed before. So, it's not a fair conclusion on my part because there's no "control".
@SugarRayCharles.
@SugarRayCharles. 4 жыл бұрын
Basically, Teddy wanted Tyson to show some accountability, but Cus suspended that approach.
@realitynotfictionii563
@realitynotfictionii563 4 жыл бұрын
Well said, compared to a lot of the comments. Of course we don't know everything but I agree.
@SiberianJew
@SiberianJew 2 жыл бұрын
Because the accountability would have killed the absolute killer in Tyson. Cus needed him that way. Untamed, angry and in pain. I'm glad Tyson learned to sail the storm eventually.
@SugarRayCharles.
@SugarRayCharles. 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@Dang3rMouSe
@Dang3rMouSe 3 ай бұрын
This.
@firmevato8679
@firmevato8679 5 жыл бұрын
Teddy Atlas was jealous of the relationship that Cus D’Amato’s and Mike Tyson had... I hear it in every interview Teddy gives !
@jujumontana2171
@jujumontana2171 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@TheKingjoe22
@TheKingjoe22 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@greatestever7623
@greatestever7623 Жыл бұрын
💯 % this dude been hatin since day 1
@liamsmith2340
@liamsmith2340 Жыл бұрын
jealous of what?? Sit down you delusional butthurt fangirl
@terencetrentwatford.632
@terencetrentwatford.632 5 жыл бұрын
Terry Atlas gets his weed off Tyson now .
@realitynotfictionii563
@realitynotfictionii563 4 жыл бұрын
lol
@DarronBrown88
@DarronBrown88 5 жыл бұрын
Teddy has been hating on Tyson since he was 14 🤦🏽‍♂️. Let it go.
@razoredge6476
@razoredge6476 5 жыл бұрын
Teddy is a sneaky two faced individual. He made millions off of Tyson and when he couldn't make any more money off of him , he goes around and tries to ruin Tyson's name to everybody
@thirstyjimmy
@thirstyjimmy 5 жыл бұрын
flahertyrick9188 That’s laughable. Tyson was only a 13 or 14 year old kid himself.
@Tusc9969
@Tusc9969 5 жыл бұрын
Let what go??? Teddy was asked a question and Teddy responded. Don't act as if Teddy called this man just to talk about Tyson. Last I heard, Tyson APOLOGISED to Teddy and they both made their amends.
@Tusc9969
@Tusc9969 5 жыл бұрын
@@thirstyjimmy He was 13 or 14 SO WHAT?? You're saying bad behavior should be ignored just because someone's a minor??? LOL Minors especially should be disciplined and TAUGHT not to do those things, for their own good and most importantly, because it's WRONG.
@warking3523
@warking3523 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tusc9969 shut yo ass up
@dwax74
@dwax74 5 жыл бұрын
He apologized Teddy and he was a kid. Let it go Teddy.
@ihavetubes
@ihavetubes 4 жыл бұрын
easy to say when it didn't happen to you.
@markhiggins8315
@markhiggins8315 4 жыл бұрын
Teddy is absolutely right. If Cus was younger and healthier he'd have been able to deal with it better. Teddy is still respectful and understanding of Cus's predicament yet he's being honest and fair. No one is perfect and Mike's later behavior proves Teddy's point. Boxing is important but life is more so. Cus's understandable weaknesses in handling Tyson are obvious for all to see. Again had Cus been younger things would have been different and hopefully Mike would have been a better person and champion for far longer. I'd like to get Mike's perspective on the situation now with the wisdom he's gained in later life.
@aniqshardin
@aniqshardin 4 жыл бұрын
@Carl Green he trained a lot of world champions.he doesnt need tyson to sell interview
@samgaudino1698
@samgaudino1698 4 жыл бұрын
@Sudarshan ara let's not act like mike was a grown man at the time either.
@Ken-iu2zp
@Ken-iu2zp 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@samurironin
@samurironin 4 жыл бұрын
Just to get it straight. It was Cancer , Capricorn, Taurus and Virgo that cus trained. Make no mistake !
@aresjerry
@aresjerry 4 жыл бұрын
Water signs are moody so it makes sense
@aresjerry
@aresjerry 4 жыл бұрын
They get into depressive states, then manic. Self harming or high risk taking behavior in the lows.
@ABCDEFGHI827
@ABCDEFGHI827 4 жыл бұрын
He never said Virgo. Who was a Virgo that Cus trained?
@youngpedro2165
@youngpedro2165 4 жыл бұрын
@@ABCDEFGHI827 me, after his death.
@winterwarden
@winterwarden 4 жыл бұрын
@@f0rtyEight overly generalized do your own research if u care
@asianassassin5082
@asianassassin5082 5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully this guys not salty about Tyson the whole interview.
@DarronBrown88
@DarronBrown88 5 жыл бұрын
AsianAssassin 50 Amén
@lanceuppercut7477
@lanceuppercut7477 5 жыл бұрын
AsianAssassin 50 why wouldn’t he be. He has been his whole life. Ffs he needs to get over it. Cus loved Tyson that’s what the problem seems to be.
@asianassassin5082
@asianassassin5082 5 жыл бұрын
@@lanceuppercut7477 exactly
@friday5561
@friday5561 5 жыл бұрын
He never seems to talk about how great of a fighter Tyson was
@flahertyrick88
@flahertyrick88 5 жыл бұрын
@@lanceuppercut7477 why did Tyson apologize for it keep defending child molesters
@strangelovemd1
@strangelovemd1 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. The occult was real with this man. He also was a hypnotist. On Joe Rogan, Tyson described being in a “sunken place”. Once there, in that darkness, this is when Cus programmed him to be the best. Tyson went through self-destructive behavior because Cus never taught him how to turn it off. (I’m here for different research)
@yknows3158
@yknows3158 3 жыл бұрын
Thats why i am here keyword... “handler”
@bobbywilliams9420
@bobbywilliams9420 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there’s always some secret darker shit connected with the mind and cults and shit when there is someone this successful. I want to find out what that secret is and is it bad. Did mike Tyson sell his soul, did cus sell his too?
@littlescott6162
@littlescott6162 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. Teddy is only looking back and saying that Cus “let a few things go” and that looking back on it gets why he did but that it sucked to be the number 2 of a gym (cus being #1) it’s hard to discipline a fighter, using rules Cus himself put in place, and then cus comes in the gym and let mike off. People want to act like Teddy bad mouth Tyson and Cus but he’s giving his honest assessment of the that situation now
@douglaspinsak1246
@douglaspinsak1246 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbywilliams9420 The occult is always bad, it's just a form of witchcraft. Black magic, white magic...it's all magic and the practitioners of the aforementioned are witches/sorcerers. Based on the little tidbits I have seen here and there (Cus paid attention to astrology, Mike Tyson said that his encounter with Cus wasn't by chance but that Cus "summoned him", Mike also said that Cus had a number of mystical books in his collection) it would seem to be the case that Cus was involved in the occult to some degree at least. Honestly he LOOKS like he is into the occult; that is how I found this stuff out--I was looking at him and thinking "this guy has a sort of occultist/sorcerer look to him, I wonder if he was known to be into the occult". So I typed "Cus D'Amato occult" into KZbin and starting coming across some confirmation. I am not saying that either him or Tyson flat out sold their souls, but I do think Cus was into some "dark arts" type of stuff.
@KaizokouOMario
@KaizokouOMario 2 жыл бұрын
@PKD Orion exactly this. Well said and it speaks to Cus' intelligence/genius. He understood the power of the mind/self belief very well. A sign of intelligence is pattern recognition and you can see a lot of Cus on other greats after him, i.e, Jimmy Johnson of the Dallas Cowboys in the early 1990's
@sharonalvarezdonaire4573
@sharonalvarezdonaire4573 5 жыл бұрын
I love that you did this interview
@warking3523
@warking3523 5 жыл бұрын
Interview after interview. I'm convinced that Teddy absolutely hates Mike. It's really jealousy. You can see it
@warking3523
@warking3523 5 жыл бұрын
@CYRANO DE BERGERQUACK we heard that sob story a 1,000 times. Teddy wanted to be be Cus protege, but got hurt & had to resort to being a trainer. On the sideline watching Tyson become a shooting star
@warking3523
@warking3523 5 жыл бұрын
@CYRANO DE BERGERQUACK I think Teddy said that touched her butt, you act like he was grown & forced himself on her. They were both minors doing what immature kids do. I'm sure you have skeletons in your closet as well, stop the bs
@jakenconor
@jakenconor 5 жыл бұрын
But if some scumbag sexual deviant bully alienated your mentor/ father figure from you... You'd hate him too. Without a doubt.
@venicec3310
@venicec3310 5 жыл бұрын
King Greg fr stays talking foul about him yet mike never even brings up teddy
@sthot8520
@sthot8520 4 жыл бұрын
King Greg yea seriously
@VlPULTRA
@VlPULTRA 4 жыл бұрын
He is not hating he just know things real private things you guys could never know about Mike.
@brandonking8201
@brandonking8201 3 жыл бұрын
Cancers are very emotional I feel Mike had allot of emotion inside of him from the things he was exposed to and emotion is power if directed. Cardinal water.
@tommygalandria267
@tommygalandria267 3 жыл бұрын
Camcers are overall good fighters, look at Jon Jones (cancer), Mike Tyson (camcer)
@evan3352
@evan3352 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I think that's what made Tyson so great (his skillset, coaching, and zodiac sign.) That's how Cus knew he would be special.
@ogbobby819
@ogbobby819 2 жыл бұрын
Cancers are caring sensitive and dedicated there amazing if they channel there emotions correctly
@francoperrotta4968
@francoperrotta4968 Жыл бұрын
@@tommygalandria267 Conor mcgregor ,Julio Cesaer Chavez , Canelo …
@offthedeepend3996
@offthedeepend3996 3 ай бұрын
Cancers are emotional, Capricorns are very intuitive and introspective.
@SongvilayFilms
@SongvilayFilms 5 жыл бұрын
Love it please release the full interview!
@Enzo87325
@Enzo87325 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a cancer wahooo I was getting worried there for a minute lol
@vernefits1953
@vernefits1953 Жыл бұрын
Great episode love the content
@USER-qs9od
@USER-qs9od 5 жыл бұрын
I know people love mike Tyson but it’s more than likely that a troubled kid who knew he was a freak of nature would push the boundaries . It would be insanely hard for someone that could see his potential to hold him to the same standard let alone an older man married to boxing.
@quantametric
@quantametric 11 ай бұрын
There's still no excuse for doing it, or for those around to not stop it.
@jackjackson8279
@jackjackson8279 2 ай бұрын
Think cus done get the recognition off the ppl in boxing today I would have absolutely loved to have met and spoke to him what a guy love to hear the stories about him
@GODALMIGHTY85
@GODALMIGHTY85 5 жыл бұрын
I liked him before until he started to spew this hates some years ago. When it comes to Tyson making bad decisions, Tyson’s age at the time never comes up but when it’s about him then Atlas reminds everyone how he was young blah blah blah.
@sutho73
@sutho73 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your channel Patrick, some amazing interviews and great information...you really ask the questions we want to hear...👍👓
@daniel_belongs_to_christ
@daniel_belongs_to_christ 4 жыл бұрын
I watched Tyson on Rogan saying that Cus "summoned" Tyson. Tyson also said Cus was into mystic books. Now Atlas is saying he made a deal.
@daniel_belongs_to_christ
@daniel_belongs_to_christ 4 жыл бұрын
@@aregulardude6131 interesting perspective. Ive heard of people using the pyramids for this possible purpose. also I am familiar with Crowley who died "perplexed" as if his illumination went wrong. But what it actually means I have no idea. Jesus Christ is The light. But I am curious as to what books you are thinking he was using and what illumination really means.
@ike0G
@ike0G 4 жыл бұрын
Hes just saying he made deals with tyson. He let tyson get away with stuff he wouldnt allow other students to get away with.
@MrKonfekta
@MrKonfekta 4 жыл бұрын
@@ike0G I think that to, what are the other crackheads talking about?
@ORION2180
@ORION2180 4 жыл бұрын
@@daniel_belongs_to_christ into the rabbit hole we go, check out Jack Parsons and L.Ron Hubbard.
@jesse-ll3dh
@jesse-ll3dh Жыл бұрын
What deal? Astrology is in the Bible. I don't get what you're talking about here? Am I missing something?
@venicec3310
@venicec3310 2 жыл бұрын
Teddy always speaks down on tyson and cus every chance he gets you can tell he still has alot of resentment for cus choosing tyson over him
@LeadWithLogic
@LeadWithLogic 4 жыл бұрын
What Teddy is describing is how these College, High School, AAU and now even Middle School prospects have BEEN treated. Tyson was THE BLUE CHIP boxer and Cus knew it. I don’t think it’s an indictment to Tyson, it’s more so a critique of Cus’ handling of Tyson. Tyson has been on record saying Cus didn’t really teach him anything by way of controlling his emotions....and right today he’s still emotionally volatile. I Love Mike for who he was and what he transcended, but we have to be honest.
@thekratosmeatrider
@thekratosmeatrider Жыл бұрын
Only so much he can do
@nickperillo_
@nickperillo_ 5 жыл бұрын
Great content no better channel brings this kind of value and entertainment 👌
@valorelite5295
@valorelite5295 2 жыл бұрын
I really dislike what Teddy had to say about Cus. Cus never got married because he didn’t want his debts to be passed on to the woman he would have married. He let things slide with Mike Tyson because he knew he was special and believed in him to make history. Mike came from a childhood few can truly relate to and has developed into a truly incredible human being outside the ring. None of which would have happened without Cus believing in him and guiding him. I can understand his stubbornness towards not forgiving Mike, but I really can’t believe he’s still bitter towards Cus
@ztwntyn8
@ztwntyn8 4 жыл бұрын
Aquarius here 💪🏼👊🏼👌🏼
@The_Honcho
@The_Honcho 3 жыл бұрын
Teddy is spitting facts, Tyson in his book pretty much agrees with everything Teddy says. There’s no reason to be angry or mad at Teddy when Tyson proved these things true later in in his life. And Cus was a fight trainer, he wanted to make a fighter. He believed his life’s work would culminate into creating the perfect fighter, and with Tyson was a damn good template to do so
@downerpigs3265
@downerpigs3265 5 жыл бұрын
Teddy is saving my life.. Thank you Mr. Atlas. Your words transcend boxing. I miss my wife,
@greenmantis2158
@greenmantis2158 4 жыл бұрын
Cus was so fascinating
@TraceVandal
@TraceVandal 5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does this guy talk with the same accent and cadence as Mike Tyson (minus the lisp), makes sense, I'm sure they were around each other a lot.
@AstroChologistcom
@AstroChologistcom 5 жыл бұрын
Both New Yorkers. But Mike is from Brownsville Brooklyn and Atlas from Staten Island so different dialects of NY.
@value-media
@value-media 4 жыл бұрын
Beautigull knowledge! Thank you very much!
@Symbolicliving
@Symbolicliving 5 жыл бұрын
The political elite are in tune with astrology too. They time their events. Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto in Capricorn now speaks to the major insanity in politics now. I write about it.
@jimmydiamond1062
@jimmydiamond1062 5 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to figure out my transits. I have Neptune square asc. Saturn square Pluto. My Jupiter trines Venus. Can you help me understand
@Symbolicliving
@Symbolicliving 5 жыл бұрын
@@jimmydiamond1062 oh I didn't see your post until now. If you want to get an astrology reading from me you can on my website. Happy New Year!
@PrinceJofficial
@PrinceJofficial 4 жыл бұрын
im PISCES and im a martial arts INSTRUCTOR. ive always told people about astrology as well. every sign has special abilities and characteristics.
@aresjerry
@aresjerry 4 жыл бұрын
What martial arts?
@PrinceJofficial
@PrinceJofficial 4 жыл бұрын
Jerold Spurgin Brazilian jiu-jitsu, Enshin Karate, and Muay Thai kickboxing at an mma gym KAIZEN MMA
@Quinsolae
@Quinsolae 4 жыл бұрын
Barnum effect
@aresjerry
@aresjerry 3 жыл бұрын
@@NomPrenom1 lol none inherently
@no-vs7fk
@no-vs7fk 3 жыл бұрын
@@NomPrenom1 never shutting up
@sancho7863
@sancho7863 4 жыл бұрын
Teddy just forever hanging on to that anger and resentment which means he has not really grown as a human being. Meanwhile, tyson has done everything and has experienced everything. He’s grown as a man and he wants to share what he’s learned with us. Teddy does not have the moral high ground over tyson. He’s just a sad and angry man
@jsksjdhdjjsjsnsnsn1873
@jsksjdhdjjsjsnsnsn1873 Жыл бұрын
You have a point
@greatestever7623
@greatestever7623 Жыл бұрын
100000% this dude been a hater of the relationship cus & mike had since day 1 look at mike how he evolved and this fool is still a bitter salty sour old man
@bisonmma-kickboxing2511
@bisonmma-kickboxing2511 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the greatest interviews,. Epic!!
@AikawaMartialArts
@AikawaMartialArts 3 жыл бұрын
Some of it may have been his way to save Mikes life. He may have literally known that gym was what kept him alive. It took Mike another 30 plus years to start living.... But it all started back there.
@Idkwhatsupwithyou
@Idkwhatsupwithyou 5 жыл бұрын
Really good interview guys. Thank you
@MysteryGameGeEk3000
@MysteryGameGeEk3000 2 жыл бұрын
Teddy would've never have been able to tame Tyson the way Cus did. He can critique all he wants about the way Cus handled him but at the end of the day, he took a kid that probably would've ended up in prison for the rest of his life and made him one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. If it were in Teddies hands... you would've never even heard of Mike Tyson. Cus did right with Tyson and nobody would have done it better including Teddy.
@xgodblesx
@xgodblesx 3 жыл бұрын
The problem I find with people is they are very judgemental, they cast stones, not condoning Tysons behaviour, but if you grew up like he did, you would understand what made him act that way.
@Asim2846
@Asim2846 4 жыл бұрын
The real question is the following. If Teddy got it the way he wanted , would mike still become the heavyweight champion?
@ORION2180
@ORION2180 4 жыл бұрын
Teddy still hating on Mike and Cus, damn.
@badapple9482
@badapple9482 4 жыл бұрын
He knows things about Mike that you dont. This doesnt sound like hating he's just being honest.
@ORION2180
@ORION2180 4 жыл бұрын
@@badapple9482 knowing more than me is beside the point. Atlas has a hard on to criticize Mike and Cus........for nearly 40 year old beefs. With Mike and Cus out of the equation, no one would give a damn for Atlas opinion, he’s smart enough to know there’s a market for Tyson/Cus lore and he’s maximizing on his pitiful disdain for them.
@badapple9482
@badapple9482 4 жыл бұрын
@@ORION2180 Have you heard Teddy talk about Mike messing with a young girl? He does and I believe him. Mike went back to his old neighborhood and did stick ups and assaults when Cus was his trainer. Mike will tell you himself he was an animal back then so I can understand Teddy not appreciating Cus taking Mikes side. I like Mike NOW but Teddy is right in saying Mike was unworthy of the special treatment he got back then. It's like the football player that skates through school on his athletic ability but has no character. Your probably right, no one would know of Teddy if it werent for Mike but who would you trust around your family, a 16 year old Mike or Teddy? Peace.
@ORION2180
@ORION2180 4 жыл бұрын
@@badapple9482 yes, I’ve heard that story. No reason to doubt Teddy. My contention had nothing to do with his accounting of decades old events, nor the degrees of depravity a teenage Tyson exhibited.
@luke3807
@luke3807 4 жыл бұрын
@@badapple9482 Teddy did time in Rikers. He should know better.
@sugipulaboule9
@sugipulaboule9 Жыл бұрын
Respect to Teddy
@kartiersupremewhite330
@kartiersupremewhite330 5 жыл бұрын
great great interview Cus is,and was a great man.
@SuperJcoleFan
@SuperJcoleFan 5 жыл бұрын
can't wait to hear the full interview. Still want to hear that mobster (Michael Franzese) father. Make it happen @Valuetainment
@es279
@es279 5 жыл бұрын
With Sonny Franzese? Yeah good luck with that. This guy has La Cosa Nostra through his veins to this day.
@Repofireland
@Repofireland 5 жыл бұрын
It will Never happen the real deal men don't do interviews fact or fiction 😂😂😂
@lanceuppercut7477
@lanceuppercut7477 5 жыл бұрын
There’s videos of him talking with another younger guy he knew. They talk about his son it’s not an interview but he’s talking. None of them are loyal and why should they be. La cosa nostra are all scum.
@Allen216.
@Allen216. 4 жыл бұрын
He’s dead
@123mcgarrigle
@123mcgarrigle 4 жыл бұрын
Sonny has passed.
@albrown1812
@albrown1812 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like Cus was more understanding then teddy's father,it sounds like Cus understood that Tyson wasn't coming from a normal background,so he's not gonna be normal.Its sounds like Cus was empathetic to other humans,patient and a great philosopher..
@27MOJOKING
@27MOJOKING 2 жыл бұрын
At that point Cus was Mikes legal guardian so im sure Cus felt an obligation to look out for Mike more than other kids or Teddy
@gorilla-jack
@gorilla-jack Жыл бұрын
Cus being superstitious became a way for Teddy to “let me tell you about the bad Tyson again” - let it go bro. Tyson is damn near 60. A old wise man now. And here Teddy is, still bringing up Shit that still bothers him
@greatestever7623
@greatestever7623 Жыл бұрын
This dude will die a bitter hater just an old bitter man full of hate I don't give a shit how good of a trainer he is fuck him
@pab702
@pab702 4 жыл бұрын
I think Teddy feels that he could’ve helped Mike become an even better champ if Cus didn’t look out for him the way he did. Now I gotta watch the whole interview.
@askbubb
@askbubb 2 жыл бұрын
Just because he was a perfect fighter didn’t make him a perfect human being. Just like none of us are perfect. Mike’s imperfections just so happen to be seen by the world
@Infam0usKiller
@Infam0usKiller 11 ай бұрын
He was not a perfect fighter. There’s no such thing as a fucking perfect fighter.
@spykerhond7008
@spykerhond7008 4 жыл бұрын
he was a professional champion manufacturer . remember the film with him and ali where he actually demonstrates the tyson way long before tyson, that film where ali and cus is demonstrating how they would get each other in the ring .
@Maynard-il1yj
@Maynard-il1yj Жыл бұрын
It’s called the peekaboo and he taught homeboy that shii
@1Live2Love3Thrive
@1Live2Love3Thrive 2 жыл бұрын
He's always talking shit about Mike. We know Mike was a little shit as a kid but he had it rough, and we don't care, he's still the best!
@ggnoreeree
@ggnoreeree 9 ай бұрын
I wanna know more about Cus and his mystical beliefs. Listen to Mike on JRE, Cus told Mike he “summoned” him. After Cus died Mike found all these esoteric books in his room. Fascinating stuff.
@obgkillab6333
@obgkillab6333 4 жыл бұрын
Teddy atlas still has a deep imbedded hate for Tyson. He’s been trying so hard to tarnish Tyson’s name the pass few years.
@beehappy3209
@beehappy3209 5 жыл бұрын
Want the full video now.😁
@SpeechCheck
@SpeechCheck 5 жыл бұрын
Great segment.
@bashiirabdulmumin71
@bashiirabdulmumin71 5 жыл бұрын
Not saying what Tyson did was ok, but how many privileged kids with lawyers get out of their consequences.
@Asim2846
@Asim2846 4 жыл бұрын
INDEED !!!!
@americanhighlander254
@americanhighlander254 3 жыл бұрын
I certainly understand where atlas is coming from because no one likes to be undermined, and he's right, Tyson should have been made to follow the rules. However, Cus knew that Tyson had some challenges because he had a tougher childhood than the other kids, and you can't treat every kid/fighter the exact same way. More importantly I think, Cus knew that Tyson wasn't the average fighter, he was special.
@ezboy88sonny14
@ezboy88sonny14 4 жыл бұрын
Cus said only, capricorns, cancers and Virgos would be heavyweight champions. And he was right
@LUKERs1196
@LUKERs1196 4 жыл бұрын
Holmes is scorpio
@ezboy88sonny14
@ezboy88sonny14 4 жыл бұрын
@@LUKERs1196 there are exceptions to every rule. You seriously thought only Virgos and Capricorns were the only heavyweights? A broken clock is still right twice a day.
@IblewuponyourfaceIII
@IblewuponyourfaceIII 6 ай бұрын
Tyson Fury, Ricke Bowe, Carlos Monzon, Chris Byrd, Ryan Garcia, Adrien Broner are Leo Sun ☀️ signs Cus was a smart man but he didn’t know enough about Astrology. It’s your Ascendant sign & your Mars along with other factors that play into you being athletic & the luck (Jupiter) to be a Champion. Ali was a Capricorn but a Leo ♌️ Ascensant/rising.
@robertrudick2492
@robertrudick2492 3 жыл бұрын
Cus was a great Teacher and professor of the Boxing Game. Check the U Tube Channel wen Cus was sparing with Muhammad Ali as old as Cus was at the time. Cus looked very sharp. Mike Tyson broke down wen Cus passed. There was heartbreak on both parties. I believe Mike Tyson loved Cus. No doubt in my mind. R.I.P Cus. God bless you and your family. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Amen
@cp1048
@cp1048 Жыл бұрын
He apologized and today is a better person that is only striving to be even better. The teacher has now become the student teddy smh "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong"
@ammarahsan1990
@ammarahsan1990 4 жыл бұрын
What Teddy does not understand is that people know him because of Tyson. If there was no Tyson, Teddy Atlas would have been an ordinary trainer noone knew of.
@teaghanfinks5083
@teaghanfinks5083 3 жыл бұрын
Bro r u fucking stupid? Look at how many champions he has trained. U don’t know anything of boxing , u dumb fuck .
@lennard5393
@lennard5393 Жыл бұрын
Teddy is based.
@adamzitsch9027
@adamzitsch9027 10 ай бұрын
Rip to cus he was a great boxing teacher
@aky19832001
@aky19832001 5 жыл бұрын
That pretty impressive that he memorized tysons bday
@awaaahe
@awaaahe 4 жыл бұрын
He s obssesed with him
@monkeyhidalgo
@monkeyhidalgo 4 жыл бұрын
It actually has sense when his mentor is into zodiacal signs.
@freddycalipari4242
@freddycalipari4242 4 жыл бұрын
some people are good at remembering birthdays
@larrykitchens8843
@larrykitchens8843 2 жыл бұрын
I remember everyone's birthday bc I believe in astrology it's definitely real
@ManPursueExcellence
@ManPursueExcellence 11 ай бұрын
Teddy has probably seen Tyson’s birthday many many times from the time they took him in.
@chrissamd5391
@chrissamd5391 Жыл бұрын
Teddy speaks the truth. When you get a pound dog vs raising your puppy. They might be great dogs but they spent the first part surviving. If you were someone who survived and made some good changes before we made the ultimate f#$k up. Once a street dog always a street dog. Time and only time will teach us to act.
@pamelacouncil4223
@pamelacouncil4223 4 ай бұрын
Cus and Ali have the same birthday! Jan 17, day of the champion 🥊
@RebelReace
@RebelReace 5 жыл бұрын
The truth about Atlas: He is and always will be ENVIOUS of Tyson! You got to remember one thing about him, he wanted to be a fighter first, and his mentor didn’t see him as such and moved him into a trainer capacity. HE WANTED TO BE A FIGHTER. He has legitimate reason to be upset with Tyson but he intertwines those sentiments with is jealousy of the talents that Tyson had... which is physically born to a fighter. #Envious and #Jealous.
@houssemchabir1634
@houssemchabir1634 2 жыл бұрын
He had scholiosiss that's why he couldn't fight, but I agree with you he is and will always be envious of tyson
@greatestever7623
@greatestever7623 Жыл бұрын
Naa shit probably more has to do with the insident of mike touching one of his female relatives when they were young there's a story of him pulling a pistol on mike & threatening him
@saneb5955
@saneb5955 3 жыл бұрын
Good interview. Just want to point out though… Alexander the Great was a Cancer. So was Julius Caesar. Not sure how much bearing zodiac signs would have on leadership skills though. But if you read about a Cancer and consider Alexander’s welcoming and nurturing of every culture he conquered, it does make you think. That being said I’m sure you could find a trait that matches every zodiac sign in everyone. Interesting none the less.
@murktee
@murktee 4 жыл бұрын
like with mike tyson you can see the water in their eyes when they talk about cus man they loved him. tyson cried everytime he speaks about cus, the mythical human
@spykerhond7008
@spykerhond7008 4 жыл бұрын
mike tyson inherited some of this man's ability to not want to be pretentious.
@AdonaiZedek
@AdonaiZedek 5 жыл бұрын
cus was a magician. ..probability practiced under crowley system
@Hadrada.
@Hadrada. 5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@AdonaiZedek
@AdonaiZedek 5 жыл бұрын
@@Hadrada. its a reach but funny
@Hadrada.
@Hadrada. 5 жыл бұрын
Adonai Zedek I’ve looked at links but are you serious I know who Crowley is?
@AdonaiZedek
@AdonaiZedek 5 жыл бұрын
@@Hadrada. no just joking .
@KingofgraceSARA
@KingofgraceSARA 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like him,too.
@Infinite0396
@Infinite0396 5 жыл бұрын
Really love both these guys Atlas and Tyson-Tyson apologized to Teddy a few years ago-and I hope they become friends again before they die. I have to respect both-because Teddy was there and we weren’t so he’s allowed to say his side of the story and Tyson is also allowed his-both are valid
@bradleylovej
@bradleylovej Жыл бұрын
This is a great take
@PoltergeistHC4L
@PoltergeistHC4L Жыл бұрын
wow that ending
@amronmitchell9969
@amronmitchell9969 5 жыл бұрын
Rules are always meant to be broken for exceptional talent it’s a unwritten rule lol
@berzerkfury1459
@berzerkfury1459 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha the irony
@BABYEARL2
@BABYEARL2 2 жыл бұрын
Leos don't like anyone being greater than them if they see your greater they want to see you lose they would hold love from you just to see you fall. Leo's are great but some of them gotta be the main character
@rolandnelson6722
@rolandnelson6722 Жыл бұрын
The notion that it costs more, far more now, for a college education then shoulder to shoulder educated by Cus is a blight on college fees.
@LittleRapGuy
@LittleRapGuy 4 жыл бұрын
There were/are doctors doing way worse than the little kids could do from the campuses, and on/off it connected, every spot.
@GG33_420
@GG33_420 4 жыл бұрын
Is March a good boxer
@TheKingjoe22
@TheKingjoe22 5 жыл бұрын
Rip Cus
@jasonmusic3
@jasonmusic3 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! I really like you Teddy, and it's obvious you didn't have a good relationship with Mike but at some point you have to let it go...😞😞🙏🏾🙏🏾❣️❣️
@calas8389
@calas8389 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what cus said about aries
@calas8389
@calas8389 3 жыл бұрын
💪🏿🗿
@erickaiser3679
@erickaiser3679 5 жыл бұрын
Atlus is good guy
@r.a.8407
@r.a.8407 2 жыл бұрын
Teddy just can't let go the ghost of mike tyson. Smh don't know what happen but that hate run deep
@Vision.Target.Shoot1
@Vision.Target.Shoot1 Жыл бұрын
Cus Had a Blue Sport Polo Shirt with #33 when walking with Tyson in the field
@alcyone7785
@alcyone7785 4 жыл бұрын
Cus & Muhammad Ali were both Capricorns & also shared the same birthdate - January 17
@IblewuponyourfaceIII
@IblewuponyourfaceIII 6 ай бұрын
Usyk & Jake Paul as well 😂
@goose33
@goose33 4 жыл бұрын
Cus looks like aleister crowley... weird
@skepchica
@skepchica 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like him too
@PhysiqueFuel
@PhysiqueFuel 4 жыл бұрын
I was literally thinking the same thing
@Bz779s
@Bz779s 5 жыл бұрын
🤔Is this about cus or Tyson 🤷🏾‍♂️
@hurrifanc.3434
@hurrifanc.3434 2 жыл бұрын
From my own personal analysis the best fighters and im basing this off of MMA are Cancer-Leo cusps.
@albrown1812
@albrown1812 2 жыл бұрын
You'd have to pay more for a college education,Look at Teddy today,one of the voices of the sport of boxing. Congratulations to the college graduate!!!
@joeguyon122
@joeguyon122 5 жыл бұрын
Tyson had a ridiculously high testosterone level at a very young age , not that’s an excuse for his behaviors but dude 200 ponds of muscle at 12 years old his test levels we’re supposedly in the 2000s
@borisp9163
@borisp9163 4 жыл бұрын
He wasnt 200 in 12🤦🏻‍♂️ his pro weight was 216 you think he gained only 16 lbs since 12? 🤦🏻‍♂️ go and watch him again... he started training at 13 and was aroun 85 kg which is around 185 lbs what is still crazy.
@askbubb
@askbubb 2 жыл бұрын
Cue did what he was supposed to do turn my Tyson into the heavyway champion of the world. That’s It. Everything else was for someone else to help Mike through
@eddieb248
@eddieb248 5 жыл бұрын
Teddy smacked Tyson once, when he was In his teens, obviously Tyson ( in his early 20s} would of destroyed him. Tyson would absolutely clean up the heavyweight division now. I think he'd ko Joshua around the 8th round, Fury around the 5th and Wilder in-between 3-5 th round. He's way to quick (Tyson)and his speed, power, belief is to much for anyone.. KO . Why are the cops arresting hum
@chrisnettos4749
@chrisnettos4749 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with your thoughts on tyson in his prime and agree he would beat all the current heavyweights handily I j6st think it would be alot quicker then your predictions. 👍
@asianassassin5082
@asianassassin5082 5 жыл бұрын
88 mike was a demi god.
@eddieb248
@eddieb248 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisnettos4749 maybe but yeah he would destroy the lot
@DrezdanJackson
@DrezdanJackson 5 ай бұрын
Capricorns are really good ate being enablers. Very loving and supportive but they will ignore terrible things in those they care for.
@johnn4314
@johnn4314 4 жыл бұрын
this is scary and explains the darkness in Tyson. After Tyson admitted.... "he summoned me". I wish he would get set free that tyson guy.
@niinuetey9878
@niinuetey9878 3 жыл бұрын
great people are not good. Tyson said it. You cant be on top of your game and be a good person all the time. look at all the great people who are good at what they do. some great coaches know this natural and necessary flaws and embrace them because when the flaws are not there , the performance of the athlete surffers
@jimmychooquay
@jimmychooquay 4 жыл бұрын
I like teddy don’t get me wrong (because of the Tyson/Cus link only). But the same old negative stuff comes up every time. Tyson was a badass. So what. He’s a once in a life time special. When Cus met Tyson the planets all aligned. Be super greatful you was even there teddy in this super cosmic event.
@CoolHandLuke5
@CoolHandLuke5 17 күн бұрын
I’m the same way with astrology and I’m born the same day as Cus. Wow
@michaelmooney7341
@michaelmooney7341 3 жыл бұрын
Never bargain with the devil. He always gets his payback
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