Supreme Commander Epic 29#

[@KimInChains]

When ZLO lost that second (loaded) nuke launcher I almost got a stomach ache! Very entertaining game!

[@Krygex]

You know, I never thought that I could get so into watching a video game like a sports game. And then I found you, Gyle. And in 2015, no less. When I bought Supreme Commander on a Steam sale, I figured that I would enjoy this game in solitude mostly, maybe if I got good enough I could play with a few people from a small forum. Holy hell, did I not expect FAF, or anything like your casts. You know, I never quite appreciated how big this game can get until I watched this cast. The low level I'm playing at now, one Experimental or nuke is completely and utterly game ending. Honestly, there where like 3 times where I was like "This game is over, he's (this was both players, mind you. I was rooting for Zlo most of the time. And I thought when Patchy got out the 1st experimental bomber he was going to win right there.) got this in the bag" Related to that, the economy advantage probably decided the game. Especially because Patchy could churn out those T4 units near the end there. But damn, you got yourself a new subscriber!

[@ZLO_FAF]

i was nuking back t3 mexes + 2 t3 pgens... pachuriko had antinukein base... also i should have made couple of megas instead of scatis D: , and make a proper base somewhere :(

[@ChrispyNut]

***** [Please note, you're a SIGNIFICANTLY better player than myself, so feel free to read with full 'scoff mode' activated :)] I think the Mega would have been well used in the southern pond to push Pachuriko out and allow the destroyers go move across. Was hoping/expecting to see at least one of you build up the 'air base' position, at least for primary energy/air production, to keep that critical piece of infrastructure out of immediate danger. vWP though. My spinal cord would have strangled me to death rather than allow my brain to try and deal with so much shit going on.

[@diliff]

Peanutsreveng3 Yeah, I thought ZLO should have tried to compete on air control too... Pachuriko absolutely destroyed him with those exp bombers, which are fairly easily countered by air if you have enough of it. I've noticed that the longer a game goes on, the less likely that Zlo is to win... Late game he seems to focus too much on harassment and not enough on eco.. Just my thoughts, but yeah I completely agree, I suck compared to ZLO so this is just my noob point of view.

[@ChrispyNut]

compete more on one level means giving up on any other. It's really hard to know that balance at the time and once the ass washer showed up that was game over for getting sufficient ASFs to compete. But yes, from our perspective of omnipotence, clearly the balance wasn't right :)

[@abculattera4446]

***** One thing I feel could've made a huge difference is if, instead of moving that very first ML off to the side to kill off that army of units, you had just gone straight into his base and then maybe gone back for the army. As is, it gave him way too much time to prepare a defense. It was still devastating, but it could've been much worse.

[@OskarFFS]

+RA_ZLO i lost my supreme commander disk and i really want to play the game :(

[@Jousten16]

At first I thought i twas a standard 4on4 on Setons, but 1on1 on Setons is simply INSANE! Also thank god that it's not a mirror match.

[@jonathanbjorge3398]

I love watching ZLO play, he does such weird things and they work in such random ways, always makes for entertaining games

[@belatedcube1021]

31:11 cruiser fires at a loyalist but the loyalist deflects the missiles and kills the cruiser

[@thesuperpierre59]

belatedcube1021 where is it on the screen ?

[@belatedcube1021]

Oops.... it was at 30:38. Anyway the loyalist was southwest of the tmd line and the cruiser was at the southern edge of the fleet.

[@Hunter_13839]

belatedcube1021 That's why I love Cybran. They have so many versatile units like direct fire cruisers, splitting mobile missile launchers, large aoe strats.... I could go on forever.

[@texteel]

DRMustangKing "I could, but I wont. But I could" 5 sec later: "Dignity, I almost forgot dignity!"

[@Puschit1]

texteel Well, he could add: Mobile AA that can also hit ground targets, destroyers that can walk on land, an experimental that can produce it's own supporting units, mobile stealth generators that can be loaded on air transports (making it invis, too) and bombs that can walk, mobile arty that can stun.

[@Xtoxinlolinecronomicon]

HAHAHAHA! Pachu was right when he told in livestream this is 100% gonna be casted by Gyle! Man, that's funny. Such a fail game on ZLO's part. The livestream was even better!

[@InqWiper]

Lessons to be learned about shields, complacency and possibly commander upgrades.

[@ivanvoloder8114]

Awsome play for both of them, although I was cheering for Cybran because I'm a Cybran player. Great land attacks by ZLO with Salems and Monkey Lords, and loved Patricks Illschiva drops behind the lines. 1v1 ladder matches are my favorite.

[@DoctorLuk]

That was one hell of an epic fight. When I play I look like a total dumbass compared to what even average Joes bring to the field. It's definitely worth being part of this - hopefully not for long - rather small community watching these in-depth and highly entertaining matches. I always get the urge to open up the game again.... it must've been a year or two since the last time.

[@gruffski]

EPIC BATTLE!!!!! Gyle, I love the commentary as per usual great match! would of been astonishing to see ZLO come back up and win this battle

[@anzov1n]

That t4 bomber destruction was hard to watch... not a single shield the whole game, didn't seem to be any substantial stationary t3 aa response either. Wouldn't really consider an epic, just a really slow death (although if he would've, you know, actually used the nuke that he build 2 times over maybe the game wouldve gone differently). Having said that, i would probably slash my wrists before playing 1v1 on setons, even pros make dumb mistakes on a map that big.

[@aeoncleanse]

Best example I've seen in a very long time of what's wrong with the current Veterancy system. It's not that the Bomber is OP, it's that you can't stop it with any sensible amount of ground defenses because it runs in, drops, gets hurt, OHKOs the defense, then OOPS, vet, back to full HP! It's utterly, utterly daft.

[@santerirautamaa9479]

aeoncleanse the counter for the exp bomber is ASFs, and usually on Setons both teams have large air forces ready to deal with it, which makes it unusable. This time there wasn't a big push for air from zlo, so of course the bomber should do well

[@coops3600]

The fact it's effective doesn't mean it's 'wrong'. It adds a nice little mechanic that gives you extra stuff you need to consider, whether you're attacking or defending.

[@PhilosopherGaming]

I haven't played this game in ages, but this replay has ignited the urge to install it again and get back into it. Suck at online RTS games though so stick to the AI I think :p

[@KriegsMeister27]

Yay, Epic Day!! I got a bowl of ramen and am ready to go!!

[@deadwing7051]

Remember to like before watching folks!

[@petrikoukkula9066]

What a game. One shield to protect those pgens + nuke or 15 asf more (when the first bomber came in) and that would have been a totally different game :)

[@Adeaddodo]

13:07 Does anyone else see the Rhino curve that shot?

[@nobunagaoda8439]

Undeaddodo omg yes.WTF???

[@h31212]

Undeaddodo Hit the ground and bounced... didn't know it was possible!

[@10kanojias]

omfg. a 1v1 setons?!?!? wow!

[@elibot]

Lots of mistakes made on both sides, but still such an awesome game! Absolutely adored the durability on both sides!

[@skrie]

This was probably the best one I ever saw. I like this Setons play way more when it's 1v1. Setons is just too "small" for the usuall 3v3 play.

[@SuperGorli]

Wooh, finally Epic Setons are back! *fangirlsqueaks*

[@ChrispyNut]

What a game. Well played both. So ... much ..... space :o

[@Quickshot0]

I'm surprised that much trouble could be given despite such an imbalance in mass income. I suppose one side was really making its hits count hard.

[@arkravengullmead6029]

nice match thank you for sharing

[@hackworthGW]

A Seton's Epic with 4 exp Bombers built, one of them game-deciding, and you didn't say "arse washer" even once? You're slipping, Gyle, you're slipping.

[@starfishgames1784]

man that was crazy video!!

[@ChrispyNut]

Wait, wait... hold on WAIT DAMN IT I need to make a cuppa. Oh, I can pause, I'll let off this time then ;)

[@kellanroberts2785]

I just make borders and with the wall sections across the small connection of land and then put ground and air turrets guarding it

[@ezariogerion3138]

And you would be demolished by simple arty.

[@kellanroberts2785]

But I have units lined up at the border usually.

[@Drillz007]

What a nail biter its always impressive to see what the pros can pull out of there hat when they are backing into a corner

[@Nojaru]

The replay ID is not showing up for me

[@Gigabeit.]

hey what do you think of Supreme Commander 2? i like it

[@nobunagaoda8439]

1st nuke bombed "xDDDD it was loaded" 2nd nuke bombed"it was loaded" GGWP

[@obscurity7004]

one day I might be able to play this well...for now though, I'll just stick to fighting the easy AI (which I can barely beat)

[@PrimeSniper7]

What's with the lightning arcs around 44:35?

[@ZLO_FAF]

PrimeSniper7 Seraphim t3 mobile antiair... it can also shoot ground like that, and lightning never misses and applyes instant damage... (it cost more than other factions t3 mobile aa tho)

[@venomsbane9815]

T3 mobile aa I believe.

[@KejserKagespiser]

PrimeSniper7 I'm pretty sure that it's Seraphim T3 mobile Anti Air

[@Breiflabb1000]

PrimeSniper7 T3 Mobile AA

[@EliHansen729]

0:45-0:54 ... lolz. what a caster.

[@Muttyfut]

Funny, there seems to be only 360p available.

[@timo25ification]

Muttyfut you need to let the video process first, should be 1080 now

[@MrTripcore]

Are Setons still being played? would like to see some more of these epics on seton, they're entertaining.

[@SnoopA5]

Sadly yes... :(

[@MrTripcore]

Sam Culy Sadly? lol I like when teams have their active roles to play..

[@SnoopA5]

Yes but it just about the only map played :( along with gap of rohan

[@MrTripcore]

Sam Culy Oh I see, I didn't realize being so popular was a bad thing...lols

[@SnoopA5]

but it's played so much the meta is ridiculous and people have exact build orders.

[@TheStrossicro]

Just thinking about the micro required in this matchup is overheating my brain.

[@Maldito011316]

Great casting! A tad bit too slow, tho. Watched it at 1.25x speed and it was noticeably better.

[@NoiceOnTheLine]

Love a good long match! gg

[@TheLolistan]

welcome to the under 301 club Your order sir?

[@halocemagnum8351]

good vid nice job living it just got a sub

[@heavyguy4660]

Hey ZLO, what's your steam?

[@ZLO_FAF]

asa helix zlo_demon

[@heavyguy4660]

***** It doesnt show it.

[@ZLO_FAF]

asa helix ah... try ZLO'RD this one should show... steam does not really tell what i should tell friends so they find me =\ (i will have Dr. Brackman ava)

[@jprsfragoso]

Pause... grab some popcorn.... Play :)

[@Steinn0808]

nice video

[@Howitz759]

Amongst the firsts

[@lordqanymonimrs6337]

How are they getting 700 mass per second? I cant even think of how thats possible.

[@SnoopA5]

Just on rock spot on setons u can get 500+ its called eco XD

[@Karnatil]

T3 Mex + surrounded by mass storage = 36 mass/second. They only need 20 mass extractors to get that, and Seton's has plenty of mass points to get that high.

[@thegilgamesh7]

Number 8! :)

[@roan6903]

Supreme Commander vs Supreme Commander 2 vs Supreme Commander:FAF?

[@thundersoul6795]

Why is 2 even here? It's a disgusting piece of StarCraft/SupCom mix wannabe failure shit ass garbage. I'd love to say "no offense", but it would be a lie, wouldn't it?

[@SnoopA5]

Just don't get supcom 2. FAF is superior to all games/activities/life

[@sernikb]

Muhahaha czyste Zło !

[@WolfyOfHonor]

well, It wasn't exactly what I expected. But hey

[@hawk0485]

really wanted him to win :(

[@DopelUltimatum]

Классный диктор

[@MrTBSC]

..... how can you screw up 2!!!!!! nukes ...

[@eliminshrintar]

Fifth!!

[@BlackHawkrc]

First!!!

[@zullottrocker]

so painful to watch a cybran playing this bad. 2 nukes bombed? really? I'm disappointed deeply in ZLO.

[@petrikoukkula9066]

zullottrocker I guess you can build four bases, fight two naval fronts and a land front, while managing your eco and do other micro oriented stuff better than ZLO_RD?

[@zullottrocker]

Of course I can't, but ZLO definitely can.