Surface Grinding the Top and Final Preparation

In this video, you will see the saw top being ground on a horizontal shaft Surface Grinder. As Bob Bois of B & V Grinding controls the machine, it is adjusted in .0001" (one ten-thousandth of an inch) increments to provide not only a perfectly flat top, but gives the
top (which was in very bad shape before grinding) the same quality finish you would expect to find on the best saws being sold. It's impressive to watch how this was done.

[@cymeriandesigns]

I've been watching a number of videos on old Craftsman saw restorations and this series was by far the best. I'm guessing that for whatever reason it won't be completed. What a pity. I'd have loved to have seen this saw back together and cutting wood. Thanks Jerry, wherever you are.

[@beautiernan4845]

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[@alanlau3278]

Hope you are still around these days. Just wanted to thank you for all your videos on the craftsman contractor saw, the PALS alignment system, your milled pulleys, and the sawblade you used to sell but still endorse. You've helped me in so many ways. Alan Lau Honolulu Hawaii.

[@donaldfennell971]

I am a grad of Jamaica High School '67, my salvation was that I asked to be taught a skill that I could use to make a living. I took mechanical drawing. I was hooked, went to night college taking Electro-Mech Tech and actually became a Draftsman. I have had a 113.27700 since 1975 it was old when I bought it. My saw is in very good shape, I'll remove the covers and paint it. Thanks for the message for our youth.

[@michaelconroy8060]

For anyone thinking of milling their saw table top. Be aware that you can only remove a very small amount off the top surface, or your miter gauge will protrude from the table top. I loved watching the Blanchard. Brought back memories of my youth when I operated one. Awesome machine but wicked as hell if the magnet ever loses grip! Saw it happen a couple times, fortunately, not while I was operating it. Great job on the saw Jerry!

[@SommerFamilyDad]

Hey everybody - Like you, I've watched this series and was eager for the rea-assembly. I did some searching on the internet, and found Jerry's company, and emailed to him. He's alive and well, but here's what he had to say: "I'm alright, but unfortunately the video wasn't. After getting the saw back together, we found serious audio issues and the video never got edited. Jerry" I thanked him for what he had posted and asked if he's be willing to post the unedited video, even with bad/no audio.

[@richardc6932]

Cut the audio and do a voice-over so this project is complete. Don’t leave me hanging, dude! 👨‍🦳

[@philipburrows]

Great work. I am from great Britain and we have lost a lot of trade people and trade's that are willing to learn people the traditional methods of working with your hands and machines. To much now emphasis on collage and university qualifications. Than the quality of hands on learning from trade's people. Thank you for the video's.

[@benhamilton3723]

Dr. Jerry, I loan you use of my father's ED D. He said he was the kind of doctor that didn't do anyone any good. You do. So did he. You both agree that children and young adults need to develop skills. Skills get you hired and allow you to produce products that your employer and customers will be willing to pay to have. Thanks for sharing your KSA's. Education institutions and professionals need to recognize the importance of skills to the viability of their product. Education of children. It is not all book / computer / video / and social skills. I call the KSA's the KSAEE's Knowledge Skills, Abilities, Education and Experience. You have it all and were I a teacher I would bring you into my classroom without asking permission. But then dad was a machinist early in his careers. Hats off to you!

[@LifesLessons74]

Awesome series! I will be contacting B&V this week to get my top resurfaced. I'm from Cranston, Rhode Island myself. Thanks for the tutorial!

[@marcusrice501]

Did you ever contact B&V? What’s the neighborhood for cost? Got my saw all apart and stumbled on this video. I’m in CT I could bring it to them .

[@skydemon02]

Thank you for sharing this!!! Would have never ever seen this without your project. My craftsman table with look much better when I'm done with it now.

[@penlam]

Wow, what a great series Jerry. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge, insights and wisdom with us. I'm certainly looking forward to the next video.

[@michaellitzkow8123]

I love this series! Thank you so much for sharing this information. I have an old Power magic 63 that's not in bad shape, but the top is not flat. I am anxiously waiting to see how flat yours is once you hang the motor back on it. Please finish the rebuild for us. Keep that good old American iron working!

[@AJDRAGON01]

Hi, I have enjoyed every minute of these videos, and I look forward to the next one. I pick up one of these saws a couple of weeks ago, and am in the proses of getting it back up and going.

[@brettburda4438]

Jerry, thanks for the detailed how to. Wanted to see how part 5 was coming along. Look forward to seeing this project wrapped up!

[@jonathanpopp3529]

Very interesting to watch. Thank you for taking the time to do this video

[@chriscapistran6802]

Just binge watched the series jerry. Very nice info. I have a very similar craftsmen as that one that I have restored as well. Wasn't as bad as yours so it's been a bit easier. I've notice my table top isn't flat as well and I live in Oxford MA which is the next town over from Worcester. Nice to know B & V is so close. Can't wait to see the saw back together and all tuned up. Well done Jerry!

[@inlinedubby]

Give B & V a call. They're good people to work with.

[@dangermartin69]

Coming up on close to 4 years now. I don't have high hopes that Jerry is still with us.

[@nobuckle40]

So beautiful it brings tears to my eyes. I used to run a Thompson water grinder like that. This brings back some great memories. The top looks amazing. Thanks.

[@bobbystanley8580]

This turned out incredible!!!

[@UncleSarkis]

That was amazing. I enjoyed watching it (as well as the other video).

[@joeindustry]

Great series of repair videos!

[@frankbullitt4556]

very cool machine and results

[@NMranchhand]

Don't leave us in suspense, Jerry! Who dunnit?! Great, great series. Looking forward to the big assembly.

[@JoseMorales-up7wu]

gracias por su trabajo y experiencia

[@Sevalecan]

Jerry, you can't quit after just 4 videos!

[@michelleantkowiak5134]

What happened to part 5? This is the exact part I need to see for my restoration.

[@arliebox4404]

Looking forward to parts 5,6,&7. There are videos out the ying yang showing how to remove that "blessed" arbor pulley, but nothing on putting it back on. My new pulley will slide on about halfway easily then stops to the point I have to use the puller to start over. and no specs anywhere about how far on the shaft it need to be. The old pulley was wallowed out to an oval in the bore, due (My guess) to the set screw was missing. Yeah OK, I'm hooked, and my saw is down. just not 3 years and 3 months down.

[@arliebox4404]

Got it figured out. Based on all the pictures in the downloaded manual, the pulleys were on backwards causing the arbor pulley to hit the bottom of the table ans stopping the blade. After a LOT of cleaning on the woodruff key and arbor shaft, the pulley went on without too much persuasion. I aligned the shoulder? of the pulley with the end of the arbor shaft, and left the one on the motor loose, to align it using the belt, before tightening the set screws. It's about as tuned as I can get it without a PALs, but still needs a couple of small issues addressed (blade, belt, etc.).

[@arliebox4404]

I need to set up an electrolysis tank to clean the wings. considering using epoxy resin to fill the webbing in the them. this might prevent finger pinches, and seal that part of them from further rust.

[@alanlau3278]

Great video. I don’t see the next video. Maybe I wasn’t smart enough to find it (where you reassemble the saw)

[@thiggy1249]

Jerry, don't leave us hanging here. I am sitting in the middle of my shop with my saw in a pile of parts on the floor awaiting reassembly!!

[@inlinedubby]

Stanley... Most of the video for reassembly is done, but still has a little more to be done. I should have it up in a week or so.

[@KennyKing315]

Jerry, GREAT Series Really looking forward to seeing your finishing the Saw! I am interested in your ideas about a spitter or riving knife on these saws that seem to overlook it with add ons to the blade guard?

[@CheekyMonkey1776]

Beautiful!

[@benjamindebellis6664]

did i miss part 5. I really enjoyed this renovation. I have the exact saw. Although not nearly in the shape you started with. I purchased it in '77 and have been using it since.

[@andrewbetschman3175]

Benjamin DeBellis hopefully jerry will post it soon.

[@sfree49]

I just ran across this series of videos. They were very interesting but of course would have been even better if it had been completed with the finished product.

[@rickadams1881]

Where is part 5!!!! I'm doing the same thing, need to see part 5.

[@arliebox4404]

Me too.

[@johann1967]

Me me!

[@steveritzel559]

Me too!

[@johnm100]

Me too

[@fernyblue]

I know this is 4 years old but wondering how much does something like this cost to do. Great series by the way and picking up woodworking as a skill to share with my little girl as soon as she is old enough.

[@ScreamingEagleFTW]

Well I hope you are ok Jerry. I sure enjoyed all your videos and I learned a lot. Thank you. Wont you please just respond and let us know how you are doing.

[@msgajhimelret9496]

Can anyone tell us what happened to Mr. Cole? Has he passed away, just can't make videos anymore?? We need to know, he was doing what he loved sharing his knowledge with so many... Please inform us of what happened, thank you...

[@tomnorman5461]

Where is the next video Jerry? Are you still alive? Your attention to detail is awesome!

[@lohkin1435]

Is the rest of this series coming out soon? Was hoping to finish watching it. Looking really good so far.

[@eddiekulp1241]

Ran a 18 x48 Mattison surface grinder for years .

[@cpeterson877]

This is the best saw restoration video series out there. Did you record the rest of the restoration and just forget to post it?

[@AR-si9jo]

Jerry, I can't seem to find part 5. Can you please send me a link?

[@YPllayer]

Very nice! but now your slots are not parallel to the surface and they also not as deep depending how much material was removed from the surface. will you machine out the slots?

[@007380]

Excellent! The only thing I would have done different is I would have filled in the dent's with spot weld before machining.

[@thomasr4167]

Hi jerrry. You inspired me to rescue my 25 year old craftsman contractor saw. Been working on it over the past week and the electrolysis worked great. Im really interested in learning how you did the grease taps. When do you think you will have the last video out? Happy new year.

[@keithlucas6260]

Pulled mine out a week ago left outside for ten years....wasn't even as bad as this one...I know shame on me. Then yesterday this video popped up after I'm already restoring it.

[@rosshollinger8097]

Oh where, oh where has my Part 5 gone? Oh where, oh where could it be. With my sanity short cause it's taking too long. Oh where, oh where could it be.

[@joser1219]

Ross Hollinger mega LOLOL

[@Hengry-hn7rb]

😆😆😆

[@joser1219]

Is part 5 coming soon Mr Cole?

[@raabsand]

Great video. Better than factory

[@toddosterhout9866]

Sir so where is part 5? Sorry been watching every episode and now I’m like this sucks. Haha

[@richardc6932]

After watching the entire inspection, tear down and refurbishment, I expected to see an assembly as well as the saw in action. I can’t seem to find the final episode (‘s) if they exist. 🤬😞

[@davidhawley1132]

For the edge ding, would brazing some filler in (before the surface grinding) have also worked?

[@kylefoster3092]

I'm guessing part 5 isn't going to happen.

[@MrLarryQ]

Are the other videos for this series available yet?

[@TheOnespeedbiker]

How much did this grinding cost? I would think it would be more than this saw was worth. Further how necessary is the process anyway; I doubt you would need anything this flat cutting wood; l mean no piece of wood is true to thousands of an inch.

[@marcusrice501]

So I guess my question is what does the surface grinder do that the Blanchard hasn’t already done?

[@garykarczewski6678]

Where is part 5 and re-assembly? I have one of these old Craftsman saws which I got for $50.00 It is in far better shape than yours so it will not need to have so much rebuild. Though I would love to get the top refinished like you did I think the stock finish is no where near the quality which you have achieved. Curious if you upgraded the motor and fence?

[@RonE729]

Let's see Part 5

[@kenklaus9997]

Awesome. Now are the miter slots still deep enough for use? Should they have been slotted deeper?

[@justinkemeter]

How does does it cost to have the table top ground like that? I’m in the process of restoring mine

[@tysonmcclellan7108]

How much was it to have it surface ground it i may ask i have an old craftsman saw that i should do the same thing 2

[@andrewbetschman3175]

will part 5 be coming soon?

[@inlinedubby]

Andrew,We are going to start shooting Part 5 (hopefully) tomorrow, August 19. The saw arbor got pretty well "pounded on" during disassembly, and I'm taking it to a friends machine shop to get it "trued up". I'm hoping what we're going to do in Part 5 ends up being one of the most impressive parts of the series. I'll get it posted ASAP.

[@speckey1983]

@@inlinedubby did you ever end up making part 5 I want to see you reassemble the saw and see how well it runs

[@joser1219]

Waiting patiently for part 5 for two years. When will it be ready?

[@andrewbetschman3175]

@@inlinedubby when will part 5 be up?

[@OldManYoungMind]

Jerry published this part of the series in June of 2016 and it is now end of July 2018 so I guess the saw is probably all rusty again cause it don't look like Jerry is going to finish it.

[@thomasklink3766]

Nowhere can I find part 5. This series was filmed 2 years ago, WTF

[@joser1219]

Do your have other videos showing the final product and testing cuts?

[@oldshield]

where is part 5??

[@mtabernig]

After grinding did deepend the midas slots by the same amount?

[@andrewbetschman3175]

Jerry how flat is the top when the process is finished?

[@andrewbetschman3175]

jerry what sort of rust prevention did you apply on the top?

[@johqcitizen7851]

What was the dollar coast for the grinding of the saw table?

[@michaelchadwick8261]

I have a Delta 34-410 Contractor Saw that could use this treatment. I was wondering what it cost to have the top reconditioned.

[@inlinedubby]

It cost me $75 to get the top ground. Jerry

[@kuehnel16]

How much is it to have that done

[@stevebell4906]

Jerry is No Machinist!

[@peckshadow]

Out of curiosity, what would a grinding process like this cost?

[@markkulyas2418]

More than 50 of these saws are worth.

[@woodworkingisfun]

How did you fixed the cabinet?

[@XJWill1]

Jerry seems to have abandoned this channel. I hope he is okay!

[@inlinedubby]

I haven't abandoned it...just been too busy for too long. I should have time in a couple of weeks to finish up the old Sears, and hope to start a "learners series" right after that. I want to put together a series where someone can sit down with their children (or grandchildren) and have it be simple enough that the youngsters can learn how to do something with their hands (besides text at 130 words per minute on their cell phone). The school systems (for the most part) don't do that any more, and if the parents (or grandparents) don't do it, no one will. I think it should be interesting.

[@XJWill1]

That's great. I'm glad to hear you are okay and have not abandoned this channel!

[@СергейПетора]

Where to get the drawings on this table?

[@dylanmiller3823]

i wonder if i could ship them my top to be done im out in ca

[@inlinedubby]

Dylan, Shipping would probably cost you more than the saw is worth. I'm sure you could find a shop in most major cities that could do the job for you. Check "surface grinding" on the web and in the Yellow pages, or try local machine shops to see if they know someone who can do it.

[@t2thferry281]

Did you have to mill the slots back to 3/8" depth?

[@inlinedubby]

I never had to re-grind the slots, since there was only about 15 thousandths of an inch ground off the top. If I would have had an issue, I would have ground the miter bar thinner. Trying to re-grind the slots could cause some real issues as far as keeping them parallel or possibly making them oversize.

[@tinaliebe5118]

When trueing up the wheel he didn’t have a mask so much dust

[@raabsand]

:( I want to see the warped pulley fix

[@ytorwoody]

I purchased a pair of 2 1/2" pulleys just last month. They fit perfectly and my old Craftsman is now working perfectly (or at least better than my skills could ever need). Good luck.

[@ryananthony4840]

The most perfect machine top table saw in the world is a Crapsman lol

[@Jamie-Russell-CME]

Dear Mr. Bois; Please wear your safety glasses while on or near any tooling or machining operation. Sincerely, Anyone who gives a damn

[@dangermartin69]

I have this eerie feeling that Mr. Cole has not released any more videos because he is no longer with us. I hope I'm wrong.

[@joelclonch6120]

I'm worried that's the case as well. It's been two years and this appears to be the last video he uploaded. Shame, I was really enjoying this series as I am restoring a similar saw...

[@KI-qx5vo]

If that is the case (and I hope it's not!) ... what a wonderful gift to leave us before his passing. You will be missed Jerry.

[@godzillafirebox7765]

Funny, I just received an A-LINE-IT kit from him with a hand written note from him in it that said "Good luck with your table saw." He also called me on the phone the morning after I placed two separate orders, one for a set of pulleys, and then one for the A-LINE-IT kit to suggest a different size pulley fit for my table saw motor to make the blade spin a little faster and provide a better cut. Talk about excellent customer service. When I mentioned that I had placed a second order for the A-LINE-IT kit, he looked and saw the order and said that he would include a check for a refund of the duplicate shipping charges, even though it was my fault, since he could fit both products in the same flat rate box. A couple days later I got my A-LINE-IT kit, pulleys and check just as he promised. Excellent products, excellent customer service, excellent experience. The man is still with us. I have no idea where part 5 of the table saw video series is, maybe I should call him and ask. I'm sure he is a busy busy man.

[@dangermartin69]

@@godzillafirebox7765 That's very good to know, thank you.