Surfer Risks Paralysis By Moving Before Paramedics Arrive | Cornwall Air 999

[@RickyB464]

"I'm not crying because I'm passionate about my wet suit" 😂🤣

[@nanan_hello]

"Seven and a half million pound helicopter" Americans: Why that's a heavy helicopter ain't it!

[@el_barjak8550]

I wish we were all that dumb haha

[@sinclari1]

I will not lie, that was my first thought, then I remembered.

[@DROGOC0P]

I thought the same thing and I use metric

[@scfog90]

British will say, that this helicopter weights 100 stone

[@randomvintagefilm273]

I never thought that because it's not logical.

[@tahsin8600]

Imagine the horror when you find out you could become paralysed just by moving a inch... 😬

[@jfahall]

The immobilisation is precautionary to avoid a secondary injury. There isn't any evidence of a person becoming paralysed after suffering a neck injury by later moving

[@victorlandenberger7193]

After moving an inch dumb shit did you watch they said she walked out of the water and to the vehicle

[@unrealgalaxy9669]

you'd be *paralyzed* with fear

[@reddress3083]

ive felt that pain once i got hit in my back nd almost broke my spine if i moved i could die.

[@AlexTunstall]

@@reddress3083 if you almost broke your spine you didn't break it then?

[@coover65]

To those asking about the lack of a C-collar application. Over the past few years, studies have shown that in many cases such equipment can exacerbate an SCI. Also, applying a C-collar straight away or just as a precaution without assessing impaired motor, sensory or autonomic function or using some assessment tool such as NEXUS is not what you'd expect of a paramedic. It demonstrates a lack of understanding or training in making a sound clinical assessment of a patient for an SCI. Putting a collar on "just in case", "as a precaution" or based solely on mechanisms of injury alone is best left to volunteer sports club first aid attendants or volunteer surf life savers.

[@Gecko....]

It's amazing how what we thought was essential for decades can actually be worsening the problem. Just shows experts are often clueless, like just a few years ago they told us all to buy diesel cars because they were better for the environment...turns out they are worse. Don't blindly listen to 'experts' question everything.

[@coover65]

@@Gecko.... How very true. I have a first aid book put out by the ambulance service I work for dated 1922. They suggest applying chewing tobacco and pot ash on open wounds! The beauty of the health industry is that it is so dynamic.

[@artspooner]

To those asking where the c (spine) collar is- they are increasingly being seen as outdated practice over the past 10 years. Their use is more historical and theoretical than evidence base. There is actually increasing evidence to suggest they cause more morbidity/injury than they prevent hence them being phased out in the UK.

[@coover65]

Yes, I've been following this with great interest. Even 22 years ago I did a study for my Degree on SCI research. Back then Malaysia didn't use collars prophylactical, only based on clinical presentation and the US did (they were the two countries I could get the best data on at the time). The percentage of asymptomatic patients cleared of an SCI was the same in both countries, suggesting that a collar made no difference. Patients with a number of clinical presentations based on an SCI (impaired motor, sensory or autonomic function) benefitted from C-spine immobilisation though. I cringe nowadays when I hear of paramedics who apply c-collars prophylactically. Professional clinical assessments and understanding of SCIs mean there is no place for "just in case" or "to be on the safe side".

[@liranbar1156]

And what about the headvise pillows? she can move her head pretty easily without collar and headvise

[@CrudeDragn]

It was a surprise to see someone I know working for Cornwall Air Ambulance. Tom was a great instructor in the Red Cross in Clonmel. He's doing great work 👍

[@ryanbarry7670]

2020: when even helicopters have to wear a mask... 0:35

[@cathifamjourney469]

😷😷😷😷😷

[@TheSarahBarratt]

😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷

[@brekidagurjonsson9998]

😷😷😷😷

[@isaaccarter9007]

Ha ha I ruined chain

[@Dno27]

😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷😷

[@myicetalon9955]

It's really amazing how calm these people can stay while working in these conditions.

[@coover65]

To an outsider who may see a traumatic incident once or twice in their lives, yes. Like with anything, constant exposure means familiarity. There's no need not to be calm when it's something seen regularly, and not being calm doesn't help make clear critical decisions. Somebody I know mentioned how they freak out when they saw a dead guy from a car crash, and asked how could I cope with such sights. When I said we see deceased or critically injured people on an almost daily occurrence, it's considered part and parcel of the work. I'd freak out skydiving for the first time, but keep a clear head and focus on the task at hand by the fifth or tenth jump.

[@benjamin3615]

You get desensitized by it and it becomes just another patient

[@evrynameistaken5]

*They called in jeremy, who promptly drove down the beach to fight the ocean*

[@MeganSchrooten]

How would you deal with a case like this but when a patient has tourrets

[@Gavin-eu1ni]

Sedatives.

[@laurensuty2760]

yes sedatives, or a very restrictive C collar

[@luimac3374]

A lot of ticks with ppl with Tourette’s is like an itch or cough they can suppress it but it’s can b v uncomfortable

[@Keyboardwarrior6996]

Lol tbh that’s a patient I’m going to RSI .. as quickly as possible.. only drawback you lose communication with the patient. When you check PMS the patient wouldn’t be able to confirm if they felt the touch... what is very important when it comes to spinal cord injuries is to assess PMS( pulse motor sensation) after moving the patient putting a collar on the patient etc

[@baguiocycleresponder]

sedetives diffinetly but only by a paramedic or a flight doctor

[@ffw819]

I thougt its a mask corona joke but its a name unveil cover

[@thundertrunks1]

These videos would be much more impactful and interesting if there were more clinical information collected after arrival at hospital. Did the patient recover? Primary diagnosis? Array of injuries? Without these, the videos feel like they focus more on the helicopter and less on the medicine.

[@hii-people2245]

I think they do that but in the full episodes on discovery

[@maryscott9430]

You can find tons of the full episodes on YT. Just search helicooter er, and air ambulance and tons will pop up

[@Rose-bi2rg]

I hope she's doing okay now. She seemed like a witty kind person!

[@declanb8196]

how come no neck brace?

[@jesslong3218]

There are studies that do not support the use of them anymore and believes them to do more harm than good (such as compromising the airway) as well as there being uncertain effects on mortality, neurological injury, and spinal stability. They would tend to lean more to immobilsing with a board and head blocks instead i believe.

[@queenjeski591]

@@jesslong3218 yes! and headblocks are easier to put on without having to move the patient at all.

[@AlexTunstall]

@@queenjeski591 there's also been recent evidence that suggests patients are better at self immobilising anyway, in terms of not moving their back or neck etc than using a board or collar! One day we will rock up on scene and ask them to get up and walk on the ambulance 😜

[@caseydykes117]

Shows off new heli and states this injury happens while they were showing the heli off and had to use the old one. Then shows the new heli with the new name landing lmao . Then shows them landing and unloading with the new

[@maryscott9430]

Haha!! I just posted the same thing!

[@Shelbydee3030]

Interesting. I would have thrown a c collar on here instantly. But im in Canada and our scopes of practice and research is different everywhere

[@jessicavalencia4408]

That’s exactly what I was thinking, right when they found her in the car I’m surprised they didn’t just secure c spine then

[@MrIanrocks]

No collar but doing a freaking standing takedown in 2020, what the hell.

[@footyfan101ful]

In Australia we usually put a c collar.

[@tamfuwing1]

C collars are not supported by research and are on the way out.

[@artspooner]

@Shelbydee3030 use of c collars are increasingly being seen as outdated practice over the past 10 years. Their use is more historical and theoretical than evidence base. There is actually increasing evidence to suggest they cause more morbidity than prevention hence being phased out in the UK.

[@merlijnvanderrijt9029]

I hope she’s doïng fine now

[@dotcassilles1488]

She is a police officer... She should know how dangerous it is to move with an injury such as hers.

[@dexedr1ne]

bless these guys

[@LMcrazy45]

I love that beach I would recommend it I love going there to surf

[@rebeccasanderson1442]

We get it you’ve been there woopty doo. It’s nothing different to most other beaches.

[@archiesleaven3233]

Fistral Beach is the best

[@LMcrazy45]

@@rebeccasanderson1442 I am just saying don’t have to be salty

[@cathifamjourney469]

We need an update!! How is she?

[@reuben6651]

She died in hospital

[@KelpLorax]

@@reuben6651 No she didn't, don't spread such lies.

[@ab1j00]

@@reuben6651 proof?

[@BrianGriffinASMR]

@@reuben6651 Only someone with an anime profile picture can say shit like that

[@reuben6651]

@@BrianGriffinASMR stfu Brian it’s true she died

[@andrewwilliams3524]

Did they take off in the old one and arrive in the new one

[@lisamoulton2540]

What happened afterwards? Is she ok?

[@Bluedog5581]

I am baffled that they did not apply a c collar ? Yet they are cautious about moving her head by accident

[@ojhawksley]

Because there's no evidence that C-Collars prevent a secondary injury so with an alert patient trust them to protect their own neck rather than force them into a piece of cheap plastic that doesn't work.

[@spday9909]

O H nailed it - they're only applied these days to avoid litigation.

[@CymruEmergencyResponder]

They don’t work, that’s why.

[@jfahall]

@@spday9909 they potentially cause harm so possibly giving a reason for litigation if you used one 🤷‍♀️

[@kirarodriguez5150]

I agree with you. As a former lifeguard, I couldn’t believe what I was seeing. These other people may be right, however every other emergency video I’ve seen, and all the training I’ve been through has taught me that a C collar, or some type of spine/ neck stabilizer is crucial in cases like this.

[@chaarli4681]

didnt evn realise until the end of the video that that beach is literally where i live xD

[@eviemparker]

yea what beach is it bc i think i’ve been there

[@chaarli4681]

@@eviemparker Mawgan Porth

[@ginerkell]

Curious as to why they didn’t use a neck brace

[@jfahall]

There isn't any supporting evidence for a cervical collar. They were traditionally used as a safe option thinking that movement could cause further injury. The idea was that immobilisation was safe and without risk. Research over the last 15 years or so has shown cervical collar may actually cause more harm. If you think about it, injuries swell; so you put a semi-rigid collar around someones neck and then it swells, that collar is becoming tight restricting blood flow to areas that need it, putting pressure on the neck and any injuries and causing pain itself. They also raise the pressure in your head (ICP) thats not good if you also have a head injury. Sadly change in practice is very slow and many places still recommend it's use. More research and published papers are really needed to address the issue and make a change.

[@gregameele1444]

I’ve seen multiple of these videos, do they not have c spine collars?

[@jessicah2809]

They are slowly being phased out in the UK because there's not really any evidence to support them being beneficial

[@edu.33]

id like to know how she's doing. i hope and i guess she's fine

[@dinuka9265]

I would call it " The People Of Britain"

[@domestictv4569]

Stay blessed with good health my dear stay happy

[@jfahall]

I can't believe they've done the take down technique. That move is advised against in all UK and most trauma guidelines. When was this filmed? I hope a while ago

[@amyk9813]

What's the take down technique?

[@Rickigi]

They are wearing masks so its 2020 probably after lockdown

[@jfahall]

@@amyk9813 standing the backboard/ scoop stretcher behind someone and then tipping it back to lay them flat. You would think it would reduce movement but evidence suggests it may cause more harm. There is not a single scientific study to show that it is appropriate or safe to use that technique, so many national guidelines advise against it

[@ishmyboy]

@@jfahall Wasnt much other choice, they could have waited for fire to arrive and cut the roof off the car but still involves straightening her body so similar movements. And those doctors have a lot more indepth knowledge on spinal injuries than average paramedics so probably weighed up the options to the best they can.

[@SpaceDementia_]

What should they have done?

[@130crowd]

Cornwall does not have one of the highest tides in the world as stated. Cornwall’s tide is about 5.5 ft. The lowest of the top 50 places in the world is about 23 ft.

[@Rachel0400]

I thought the lifeguards are supposed to be more aware or trained in these things to know not to move someone with a neck injury

[@stefanieebling8919]

It sounds like she may have moved on her own accord

[@jamesmckenzie3532]

They did. She walked up to them.

[@shrimpson123]

yo the soundtrack kinda bop tho

[@Otto42069]

Jeremy is ripped

[@philtanics1082]

Ah how nice, a visit from some royal serpents. What did they want with the heli? A lift to Epstiens islamd?

[@westy4120]

Wow that’s awful tho how his brother leaves the hospital without his other brother

[@Aziiio]

uhh do they not carry any sort of neck brace or support for injuries like this? o,o

[@andban92]

This lad with sunglasses and beard looks like David Guetta,lol.

[@deee1776]

I’m shocked and surprised that a police officer wouldn’t know / think to just lie still!

[@mrw3617]

in the water?

[@mikebrosseau9189]

Where is the cervical collar??

[@jessicah2809]

they are being phased out in the UK because there isn't really any evidence to support them being beneficial

[@yektatumok8625]

how did she get hit to his head in the middle of the ocean

[@ОльгаТверская-ш5й]

With her surfboard, I suppose

[@emjane1999]

what happened to her in the end????

[@String.]

No neck brace?

[@damaribrackett1159]

😂I was shocked when the queen pulled up without a motorcade then remembered they where in the UK

[@crystalion3378]

That was the Duchess of Cornwall not the Queen. She's married to the heir apparent though.

[@damaribrackett1159]

@@crystalion3378 my bad lol I'm American🇺🇲

[@hardwirecars]

as an american its strange to me that people get all giddy over someone that says im in charge because god ordained it. not an insult just strange to me like im sure our love of guns is strange to you but then again our guns are why your customs are strange to us :)

[@jamiemiddleditch1999]

@@hardwirecars the reason is because the monarchy works for Britain. The Queen is boss. She is allowed to fire the PM if she really needed to. We tend to have less political problems as PMs talk to the Queen every week and basically let her know what will happen and she'll say what's she likes and if she agrees or not. I'd rather have a Queen that has done her job for 69 years to presidents who make 4 years a difficult and political problems lol....

[@alegomanYTPs]

@@damaribrackett1159 holey shit i thought that was a joke

[@ednorth579]

was she alright?

[@ilonacharlton1144]

Every time someone says 'safe as houses'... I've been in some pretty unsafe houses mate that really isn't comforting...

[@maryscott9430]

So they unveiled the helicopter and named it The Dutchess Of Cornwall. They took the old helicopter to the rescue scene right?? Then how come when they landed on beach, and the camera backed up.. it says The Dutchess Of Cornwall on that helicopter too???

[@teaganscorer6025]

so weird watching this in 2021 seeing people together not having to distance and no masks

[@dieselfox]

I think that's an AW139 helicopter not quite sure

[@benjaminlewis3903]

Why didn’t they put her in the blocks?

[@vaaaclavsolar4901]

Did Someone else also spot the Urus at the beginning?

[@paxtonb.8437]

It took me 8 minutes to realize they were wearing masks lol

[@Person-v4b]

Same

[@peachesnmulder]

6:52 hellllooooo Handsome!!

[@coleman3958]

You guys dont have C-collars in the uk ???

[@framekixrr]

They are being phased out

[@FarOut-n6b]

I think that copper needs retraining. God forbid she attends a car accident and advises the broken necked victim its ok to get out and have a wander around

[@bencollins2494]

can someone tell me who owns that lambo urus behind the duchess of cornwall pls. cause how do people have that much money and buy a yellow one. :)

[@TJC01]

They are in the new helicopter not the old one

[@bakar6491]

Did she pull up in a urus

[@arloschofield5648]

Yeah that's what I thought

[@rhondavroman5191]

They could have chose a better name for the helicopter... I hope the lady is ok.

[@olliebeal6783]

They say not to move. But they move you onto the spinal board and straighten you out

[@tilley7242]

Great it’s Camilla (sarcasm)

[@bluetoast8584]

I thought they don't use miles in Europe? Why they keep saying miles?

[@jfahall]

The uk uses miles on the roads but metric for almost everything else

[@llamas3655]

UK has mashed uses imperial and metric for different things

[@asdsdjfasdjxajiosdqw8791]

For ludicrous reasons the UK still hasn't fully metricated yet.

[@philippaballard4953]

I’m confused,, that isn’t the Queen?

[@laurenm6050]

That is Camilla, Prince Charles’ wife

[@hardwirecars]

nope a dutches would be someone like donald trump before he became president... ok elon musk rich and important but holds no real power.

[@alegomanYTPs]

fucking hell another one!

[@DutchManticore]

The people of Cornwall had to pay for that helicopter. And "her royal highness" comes to check it out. With a wealth in the billions and tax excemption she should be ashamed not to have paid for it.

[@kaelll85]

Walking around with a neck injury..thinks she knows better than everyone... "The patient is a police officer" ahhh that explains it..

[@rm55555]

Surely they should have cut the roof off the pickup truck?

[@CymruEmergencyResponder]

We tend to walk people out of vehicles in the U.K.

[@fraseradams7295]

why is it named after a Royal, they dont work for a living and dont donate nearly enough

[@erikhartgen5431]

Imagine not having a neck brace for this

[@HeavyHanded]

Imagine still using neck braces/c collars

[@rubenzikarsky5195]

Imagine using a neck brace in 2021.

[@sutt5828]

This is what happens when you attempt to surf in a triathlon suite kook

[@budgiebreder]

Why didnt they put a collar on her? - see answer in below replies. Thanks all for teaching me something.

[@estephens_x]

they're being phased out

[@budgiebreder]

@@estephens_x why?

[@willharrison3090]

@@budgiebreder they don't work.

[@budgiebreder]

@@willharrison3090 is there a replacement? I can see her neck moving in this video? Surely something is better than nothing?

[@jfahall]

@@budgiebreder A semi-rigid cervical collar is not great for the neck. A common issue is that collars are not correctly sized and are inherently difficult to size right. People mostly have some level of asymmetrical neck alignment - so a collar can easily pull the neck from the patient's natural alignment and is counter-productive. Take into account that injuries swell, we place a semi-rigid collar on the neck and the swelling has nowhere to go but inward; this reduces circulation to the spinal cord causing damage. They also make airway management more difficult and take time to apply. An alert oriented person with neck pain will protect their own neck; they are less likely to hurt themselves moving than we are trying to move them. Similarly, a person on the scoop stretcher with head blocks can't really move their head, and this offers a great deal of stabilisation, yes they can lift their head a little, but a person with an injury is unlikely to do that. Is there a single documented case of a person causing further injury to themselves by lifting their head or even moving their head? The answer is no. The best treatment for protection is your ABCD's, minimal handling, gentle patient handling, acting in a timely but safe manner. The gold standard would be to use a full-body vacuum mattress that forms the patient's natural alignment. Edit - Another consideration with the semi-rigid is collar is raising the intracranial pressure. Arterial blood is under greater pressure and can pass the collar to the brain however, venus blood under less pressure returning from the brain is restricted. This is likely not great for a none injured head - consider a person with a head injury and a collar is detrimental. Neck injuries are often accompanied by head injuries.

[@Mackieee]

imagine what this would cost in america

[@hardwirecars]

not as much as people joke about. insurance kills most the cost and if you can't afford it most hospitals have charitable organizations that will take care of the bill.

[@Mackieee]

@@hardwirecars and its dumb that even has to happen

[@hardwirecars]

@@Mackieee not really how do you think rnd is paid for?

[@swampylimbs2646]

My father had to take a helicopter ride to the hospital. Cost him 24,000 dollars, he had no insurance at the time

[@Rachel0400]

Who would of thought in 2021 you would still be hearing the words "royal highness" 🙄

[@praetorxian]

Royal family is royally overrated...

[@SuperFb95]

Plenty of countries in Europe are kingdoms, I see no problem with it, it's the people wish. Much better than having a Trump or a Clinton as your head of state

[@Rachel0400]

@@SuperFb95 bruh. The Royal family doesn't rule the country in the UK. They still have a president if you will that runs things. They are pointless

[@SuperFb95]

@@Rachel0400 they are not pointles, they are a great source of income for the state and the Queen is a great head of state.

[@footyfan101ful]

WHERE'S THE BLOODY C COLLAR!!

[@artspooner]

use of c collars are increasingly being seen as outdated practice over the past 10 years. Their use is more historical and theoretical than evidence base. There is actually increasing evidence to suggest they cause more morbidity than prevention hence being phased out in the UK.

[@victorlandenberger7193]

7.5 million pound....Is that right???

[@hardwirecars]

sounds about right.

[@SlowMoebius]

Jeremy is an absolute fucking chad

[@nikrolfe2370]

Jeesh

[@Jev4321]

It went from a helicopter to somebody getting paralysed 😬

[@Nemi567]

welcome to bondi

[@EvilPumpkinPlays]

XD

[@dandygirl6]

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY ISSSSNT THEREEEEE A COLLAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[@HeavyHanded]

Becaaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuuseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee iiiiitttttttttssssssssssss 2020...and we know better

[@jfahall]

A semi-rigid cervical collar is not great for the neck. A common issue is that collars are not correctly sized and are inherently difficult to size right. People mostly have some level of unsymmetrical neck alignment - so a collar can easily pull the neck from the patient's natural alignment and is counter-productive. Take into account that injuries swell, we place a semi-rigid collar on the neck and the swelling has nowhere to go but inward; this reduces circulation to the spinal cord causing damage. They also make airway management more difficult and take time to apply. An alert oriented person with neck pain will protect their own neck; they are less likely to hurt themselves moving than we are trying to move them. Similarly, a person on the scoop stretcher with head blocks can't really move their head, and this offers a great deal of stabilisation, yes they can lift their head a little, but a person with an injury is unlikely to do that. Is there a single documented case of a person causing further injury to themselves by lifting their head or even moving their head? The answer is no. The best treatment for protection is your ABCD's, minimal handling, gentle patient handling, acting in a timely but safe manner. The gold standard would be to use a full-body vacuum mattress that forms the patient's natural alignment.

[@muhameribrahimi6499]

I like the helikopter

[@draco2xx]

i dont like the new narrator

[@levicross1109]

Her highness 😂😂😂 she ain’t nothing the royal family ain’t nothing no Celtic will bow down to some colonial family

[@teresayeates3437]

Please tell me your picture has been manipulated. Otherwise, my deepest sympathies.

[@ryanbarry7670]

@@teresayeates3437 🤣🤣🤣 oh my god

[@laylaPedh]

yet i bet you kneel and kiss blm feet..

[@levicross1109]

@@laylaPedh fuck no I support black lives but not the BLM movement

[@levicross1109]

@@laylaPedh and the royal family is German

[@alegomanYTPs]

catching a virus with a 0.2% death rate is more important than a neck brace apparently

[@TheDragorin]

what a shit system, gotta rely on charity from a fucking duchess to have the equipment you need to save lives.

[@framekixrr]

And where might you be from?

[@nikrolfe2370]

Jeesh