Surprised by the results? Freezing Shotgun Test | Gas VS. Inertia

[@johnwilmott8063]

Thankfully, i bought an sx4 a couple of months back. Having just seen your torture test, i'm glad i did. It just goes to show, the more basic mechanism a shotgun has with less frills, there's less things to go wrong. Love the channel. 🙂

[@oldguyplaysbass6503]

Congrats on the new shotgun! I just got an SX4 Field LH two days ago .. haven't shot it yet but can't wait. Hopefully I will be happy with my choice ... I'm sure I will be.

[@limaf0xtrot921]

This feels oddly Garand Thumb inspired. 🤔 Appreciate all you do on this channel, man.

[@mat3716]

Next week: mud

[@ricardolopez2940]

X2 ITS AMAZING

[@charlesvandemark]

they rifle he shotgun

[@charlesdavis405]

Not surprising that a gas gun will shoot better than inertia when not shouldered.

[@TargetFocusedLife]

It was actually inspired by a viewers comment. We put it on the list and then Garand Thumb released his freezing gun test a week later. Once we saw the GT video we had a little extra inspiration to get it done.

[@wendellk1185]

To give inertia guns a fair chance you need to have them on your shoulder or leg otherwise they are losing some of the recoil energy they rely on to cycle the gun. We shoot Benelli SBE 2s and if you hold them beside you they will jam times sooner than if they have solid backing. My gun basically never jams on me while hunting and I couldn't figure out why it was jamming more when I held it beside me with the same ammo until I thought through it and we did some tests.

[@dalerobbins4737]

Agree

[@phild9813]

Yes, inertia systems need to be shouldered to cycle reliably.

[@kykrazy6050]

Agree

[@Mrjordskie12]

I purchased a Winchester sx4 here in New Zealand because of your reviews. What an outstanding shotgun. Just another reason to buy one. Thank you. 😊

[@percyteuber6961]

After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel kzbin.infoUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!

[@justonscott43]

Remington V3 vs Tristar Viper Max vs CZ 1012 vs Weatherby Element! A review on these $650-$750 range guns would be great. Best budget Gun Battle!

[@TargetFocusedLife]

Thanks for the suggestions. I will see what I can do 👊 Stay Target 🎯Focused (Hebrews 12:1-3)

[@jonah-n8l]

U found a v3 for $650?

[@danmarks1830]

Damn I’m glad I just bought myself an SX4 3.5” 28” barrel

[@eabdic1]

Finally a test I’ve always wanted to see for shotguns. Just to showcase the systems and what they’re capable of. I want to give you a hug for this test but I figured a like would be better. Also I’m not going to lie, there was some satisfaction and laughter when you broker the charging handle off the Benelli 😂

[@TargetFocusedLife]

🤣I'll take a like and a hug too!

[@tjs792]

​@@TargetFocusedLife Ok test the gun with the most best patterns on how to kill a goose with a shot how wide the shells are of the pattern with long range as well

[@nriyo3]

I would love to see these frozen with a live round. Maybe only use .5 floz. on each gun to keep it even? This way we can see how the actions handle the freeze.

[@hogkllr]

cool test but I think it partly depends on the lubrication you have on the gun and how much, In Montana hunting ducks and geese once it freezes i run them dry and use graphite on the slides

[@jesseregister8713]

Love this video. I would love to see more videos like this where you put guns through "extreme" conditions. Especially these models made for "extreme" conditions.

[@unclebob870]

Great review and thank you for reminding me why I moved to South Texas after 40 years of living in the Minnesota cold!

[@penshockey5474]

I don’t see how the Maxus 2 can’t keep up with the sx4 they’re basically the same gun it’s gotta be because of the 3in chamber the bolt doesn’t have to cycle as far

[@marshassassin9583]

Me and my buddies inertia stoegers never fail during freezing cold muddy duck hunts. Infact my friends m3500 has NEVER even been cleaned after thousands and thousands of rounds. Inertia is the most reliable imo

[@juan_ctzz]

Haha yeah got a cousin has had his for years without cleaning and always goes bang! About 2-3 jams per 2 day hunt. Brush it off keep going lol

[@ericpeterson2128]

New respect! Even doing the summation out side in this weather. Nicely done.

[@WhatTheQuackOutdoors]

Honestly the Sx4 is an amazing one built. I've shot an browning A5 and I love it, similar as the Remington model 11 is just amazing built. I knew the 3500 would crap out just because my buddy dropped his in water and it froze over. He did not shot a single round that morning.

[@christophermercer2632]

The model 11 is literally a licensed copy of the a5……

[@Jason-nt5gr]

The Franchi Affinity series is a lot of gun for the money. I own one and am considering adding a couple more to the safe.

[@rex8958]

Great video once again! I would argue that the hottest loads that should have been used were 1 1/8 pheasant loads going around 1290fps. Doubt it would affect the test but just a note 🤷‍♂️. Jan-Feb coldest times in Minnesota, seasons left for hunting are mainly squirrel and rabbit, majority of people use 1oz loads. Doubt it affects anything and this was just a fun test anyways. Baretta a-300 has always served me great after hours in negative temps

[@duckhunter4887]

Did you notice a big difference when you cleaned them how much snow/ice intruded in each firearm? Maybe some of them have tighter tolerances to keep stuff out? It would also be interesting to see an old school gun like an Remington 1187 and maybe a pump shotgun just to see if they are more or less reliable in snow/ice... I would however say the SX4 was impressive!

[@Raevenswood]

The bolt handles on the benelli guns just press in with hand force so snacking with a hammer is not advised 😂. Also as someone else said you need to firmly mount inertia guns for the system to cycle properly. The affinity cycled when you shoulder mounted it.

[@donaldbaker1135]

Sx4 seems to be the best ,I have always had problems with inertia guns in the cold

[@DCSuperShine]

Soooooo Glad I bought the SX4... all because of your videos!!! thank you!

[@TargetFocusedLife]

Rock on!

[@tsmcl38]

Of course you picked Winchester, they sponsor you. Just got my son the Winchester SXP. It is way too front heavy. The sight is horrible. You keep your Winchester and I will stick with my Beretta.

[@TargetFocusedLife]

Hi Scott, Winchester does not sponsor me in any form or fashion. Gould Brothers used to be sponsored by Winchester but haven't been for a couple years. I had no preconceived ideas on how this video would turn out. Just brought the guns out and shot them, letting the results fall where they did.

[@tsmcl38]

@@TargetFocusedLife , you shot a cheap ass Winchester for your demonstration shooting. I have watched your videos, you do not give an equal comparison between shotguns. You fired that Winchester more, so it heated up and was able to “out perform” the others. If you don’t think that you are biased, go back and watch your own videos. Your are as biased as the Glock boys

[@littlerichardcranium8993]

@@tsmcl38 he shot the Franchi way more aka- giving it a chance to warm up.

[@terryrowden9687]

I think you should do a review on some Turkey shotguns

[@masonbyers2305]

I bought the maxus 2 I’ve shot and been around these guns for years and it’s the only one I’ve truly liked the sx4 and maxus are great guns and I’d recommend them to anyone

[@juan_ctzz]

How does sx4 compare to baretta extreme plus? Think of which one to get lol that’s gas powered and on my first hunting trip

[@tristanpalo80]

Do a review on the Retays

[@ih8people679]

I want to see the old guns compared also. My old A5 is a tank. I'll bet it cycles no problem. The motor oil used on the magazine tube, Full synthetic Castrol

[@ih8people679]

@John Traiforos I'm in QC, I use a drop or two of synthetic oil on the mag tube. 1964 A5 (@-30 I'm inside)

[@guaporeturns9472]

@@ih8people679 I have an old 1920 Remington model 11that gets the motor oil treatment as well. Tough old gun.

[@Bronson2024]

I have the Winchester SX3. On the original shipping box it says made in Belgium by Browning. When I went to change the safety to left hand. I used Browning instructions given I could not find the directions under Winchester to make the switch. The internal are the same on both guns - just different furniture. The internal machining of the Winchester is top-notch. The Winchester can be adjusted for length of pull, comb and cast. You can make it a perfect fit right out of the box. All adjustment parts are included with the gun. If you want a dam good auto at a reasonable price pick up a Winchester. No I don't work for Winchester I just like high quality stuff at a reasonable price.

[@rudyelizondo1935]

Man great show!!! Love it putting these shotguns to the test!!!

[@THEADMIRALISIN]

The inertia guns really need to be seated solidly against your shoulder to cycle correctly, frozen or not. That’s just how they work. INERTIA

[@bandingolahey6676]

That's just how they Don't work. INERTIA

[@THEADMIRALISIN]

@@bandingolahey6676 are you agreeing or disagreeing with my comment?

[@jonathanhoward1497]

@@THEADMIRALISIN well in all honesty these guys have shot untold numbers of rounds with inertia shotguns over their head, from the hip, and even while doing push ups and the shotguns still cycled a new round in. No shoulders were used for those shots with inertia shotguns. I'm not a mechanical engineer or a physicist so I can't explain it, but they work even when not fired from a shoulder.

[@robertandrews6555]

Hi, I got an affinity 1 and I adapted a benelli m4 pistol grip stock for it and when I had a bad shoulder injury I found using target loads If I pulled it in super tight with the pistol grip and lent into it to protect my shoulder and absorb the recoil I could stall it nearly every time, to stop this I found with a lighter grip it would cycle fine, when my teenage son goes from his O/U 12g to the franchi which recoils more he tenses up to absorb the recoil and has problems, when he's reminded to relax a bit and take the recoil it again cycles perfectly 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ weird

[@111broncofan]

@@jonathanhoward1497, those guns did NOT have snow and solid ice throughout the entire working components. Adam Waters suggestion is accurate. Without the solid background of a properly shouldered gun, they are naturally bound to fail. You are talking about a shotgun that is solely spring driven. Therefore, it needs a solid backstop so that all of moving components can function entirely.

[@scorpinock2]

I'm not surprised how well the Franchi did. Benelli makes Franchi but the Affinity is essentially a Benelli M2 clone with focus on reliability and lower price. The fit and finish isn't as nice as a Benelli M2 but they're great guns. When we're at the range my friends Affinity 3 shoots target loads lighter than 1 1/8 oz and less than 3 drams (the minimum shell lead weight and powder power) the Franchi is rated for and has never jammed. Very reliable.

[@battalkiras6570]

Franchi affinity alınır mı sizce almalımıyım

[@dave_724]

you’ve given them all the crio treatment 😂🤣

[@aarontitusz8655]

6:40 I died when that charging handle snapped 😂

[@alexbell9196]

I like this test. Late season goose hunts here in ohio are basically the real world version of this.

[@peterparsons7141]

-1 is not cold. Owned or operated every type of firearm. Many types of failures, with many variables. The coldest operating temperature was -38c. (Sub arctic). They can all fail under wrong conditions. Most reliable to date is a well used Benelli Montefeltro. Two failures is 20 years. The new fancy, or after factory charging handles are no good.

[@well5423]

No other tuber has done a mud test with modern shotguns: that would be a hit video if you end up testing it!

[@TargetFocusedLife]

I filmed a video this week with different lubricants. First I shot in cold and with snow in chambers and then I dumped way too much dirt and junk in the chambers, but the test was interesting to see. Video should be out next week. 👊 Stay Target 🎯Focused (Hebrews 12:1-3)

[@that-soul-reaper-4u24]

Only issue imma say is the inertia ones in you did have the franchi up to your shoulder the first shots then after you did it fired perfect

[@kykrazy6050]

Did the bolt handles break off or just come out?

[@kellythompson1649]

Definitely enjoyed this. Most especially since I’m in the market for a new waterfowl shotgun. It looks like I’ll be looking at the Two that held up.

[@brockrenshaw7519]

I got an sx4 and it works great my buddy got a franchi and has had a couple issues with cycling

[@kellythompson1649]

@@brockrenshaw7519 thank you for the heads up on the franchi !! Because that was the way I was thinking of going.so now I’ve got to see how the cz1012 compares to the sx4.

[@lanehart6525]

@@kellythompson1649 Had great luck among my hunting group of the following, SBE3, M2, A300, A5, SX4, 1012. a few have tried the affinity and none of them had very good luck. lots of issues with minor parts breaking internally and failing to function. but they feel and shoot great when they were working, that was one I hated to see have issues.

[@pavila195417]

That not a fair depiction of a test because when you take all the shotguns out of the snow at the same time, of course the first shotgun is going to be frozen while the others the snow starts to melt making it easier to shot

[@kross1261]

The lube test you mentioned would be interesting. I’ve been using FP-10 for years hunting often in sub zero weather but maybe the Otis dry lube is better I’ve never tried it? I struggled for years to find a good lube that wasn’t affected by the cold. The FP-10 sort develops a bond with the metal over time. The actions on my Benelli’s are so smooth now. Good to around -50 I believe. Nothing against the gas operated guns I still owned a few but they take me so much longer to clean than my inertia guns.

[@farlesbarkley1022]

Slip 2000 EWL Lucas extreme duty gun oil Pick one

[@battalkiras6570]

I have a m3500 waterfowl cerakote fde gun, what are the most suitable choke and the most suitable cartridge brand for it and how many meters is the range mentioned as the middle range, thank you in advance for your help

[@ethanthomas6127]

We need a budget over and under review/comparison or any over and under review

[@williamnault8553]

Had some issue with dry fire with stoeger but still less maintenance

[@guaporeturns9472]

Isn’t the Maxus II just a repackaged SX4? Same factory , just different markings?

[@nriyo3]

Steve for this type of shooting does the 3" work better for the SX4? Or is a SX4 Magnum just as good?

[@jonah-n8l]

3” runs more flawlessly

[@upstage925]

I just got the sbe3 BE.S.T. and giggled when the charging handle broke off hahaa! I have 3 benellis and love them. I shoot them so much more gooder than my Citori which I have mixed feelings about. Saved and saved for my nice citori and come to find out, I shoot 80's to 90's in sporting clays with my benelli lol!

[@klementiatravlos101]

Browning auto5 belgian vs renington 1100😁😁

[@ZH-fp9oj]

Was not expecting that result from the Winchester. I was thinking the A400 was going to come out on top.

[@ZH-fp9oj]

Love your channel by the way. 👍 Wholesome, informative and fun. Thanks.

[@ih8people679]

I thought the sx4 was notorious for loosing the charging handle. Maybe it's just frozen in.. liking your channel

[@joeschnapps1712]

From what I’ve read Winchester fixed that issue a while back.

[@TargetFocusedLife]

lol...they did when they were first released. That has since been fixed.

[@dalanwanbdiska6542]

Yeah. I own a old Ithaca xl900 12 gauge and its the gas recoil and it has hardly any kick. 2 3/4 chamber. I like to use #6 shot and #2 shot. I had to lube mine up with wd40 hahaha. It works.

[@michaeldelrossi4487]

How about trying a Beretta 686, Browning CXS, Franchi LX & Remington 101 O/U with the same test's and see how they fare to each other?

[@TX.Kara.]

Went to Wyoming last year. 8 guys 7 Benellis and me with my Beretta A400. 10 below zero. First duck over creek, 7 clicks….. my beretta bang Drake mallard dead Look on 7 proud Benelli owner faces, priceless. Repeated next 3 birds. Was a great day,for me!😂

[@mat3716]

Great video man! Been hoping for something like this! Loving the new channel

[@TargetFocusedLife]

Much appreciated, Matt. Glad you are enjoying! 👊 Stay Target 🎯Focused (Hebrews 12:1-3)

[@timothydavey7569]

That Winchester was a beast

[@vanderwell07ify]

Love my Super X2 3.5 mag. But 8lbs empty then throw 3 3.5" #2 and its a tank but never an issue

[@justonscott43]

Great review! I’d love to see a review of the Tristar Viper Max!

[@battalkiras6570]

Franchi affinity alınacak bir makınamı almalımıyım sizce cvp verırsenız sevınırım videodan anlayamadığım ıcın acıklayıcı bir yorum yapmanızı rıca ederim

[@maxfoour2376]

You don’t try the browning silver ?

[@markoveson7167]

Interesting that all the inertia guns are all benelli and its subsidiaries.

[@markoveson7167]

It would be great to see how the browning a5 would do.

[@thomaslunsford2398]

I have a Beneli M2 that locked up froze continusly on multiple hunts years ago and gun was clean and I went back to a gas berreta and never looked back

[@koutraraxi]

Congratulations for your job.

[@seansvid]

Love this content! Any gun can function well in ideal conditions. Thanks for putting these guns to a real test!!

[@anthonytardif6586]

You should come in Quebec, Canada two week ago to test them. It was -37•C ahahah

[@mattleebassham7114]

I’d like to see some more testing on the ethos. Trying to decide between the browning maxus 2 and ethos

[@sprayandprayhunting5711]

The best of the channel ❤️💯❤️

[@StudstilI]

I purchased the Franchi affinity 3 before waterfowl season opened for 21-22. I absolutely loved it throughout the entirety of the season. Though South Georgia doesn't get Temps like where you're at, I'm glad to see it can handle the cold. Gonna do great in Maine next year🤙

[@TargetFocusedLife]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I have been impressed with the Affinity 3 so far.

[@stuarthawkes1382]

So what we've learned is to expect that every gun will fail, ensure we don't take a mallet to a seized component and treat guns with respect. If you're going somewhere where climate is harsh, be prepared. Also how can you tell the level of actual ice in each gun and in which component area? Like the enthusiasm though

[@rudysroots2789]

He’s saying guns aren’t performing because the feed tubes are froze up not because of action issues. It’s kind of a nonsense video. He tried like crazy to get that Benelli to perform, through the Browning to the side and still tried to compare the Winchester and the Franchi for who won. There was a clear winner to me.

[@mark12ga18]

Can you review the benelli vinci?

[@DD-mg9rf]

I wanna start off by saying I have always been a benelli guy BUT this last year I got a Winchester sx4 3inxh and I absolutely love it , but down side it gets soo dirty!!! But I went to the comments as tou told me too and I feel like the benelli and the rcoild operated gun with do better as the gas ports might freeze with ice but time will tell here I go to watch the rest of the vid

[@DD-mg9rf]

Well hell I'm glad I bought my winchester sx4 !!!! I've been 1000% happy with it my buddy has the franchi affinity 3 he shot my old I 12 I has but after my shoulder surgery I had to switch to gas and couldn't be happier!!!

[@voiko7393]

Love your channel, would like to see more over unders though. Never was really a fan of semis but after watching your channel for a while I found myself shopping around for a semi auto 😂. Keep up the great work!!

[@TargetFocusedLife]

Thanks for the comment. I will soon start putting out content on over-under shotguns. 👊 Stay Target 🎯Focused (Hebrews 12:1-3)

[@lexwaldez]

Which did you decide VOIKO?

[@dougwilliams7401]

Bird hunted 45 yrs 50 PLUS days out of 60 waterfowl season with tons of people. Beretta will always be in my hands A400 is a beast day in and day out.

[@christopherblessing3868]

Yep, I can't agree more. It doesn't matter what you throw at that shotgun, it can handle it. At 63 yrs old I've killed a lot of waterfowl over that time. I also love my Remington shotguns , but the A 400 is in a class by itself.

[@SKiiTTLe5]

If you ignore the part where an essential part broke and again wasn’t as reliable as several guns to include its “lesser quality younger brother franchi”, the Benelli was by far the best……🤣 these comments man

[@phild9813]

I’m curious though, did the charging handle pop out or actually break off? Obviously in both cases that’s a failure of sorts, although beating on firearm parts with a hammer is probably outside of design parameters.

[@SKiiTTLe5]

@@phild9813 it sounded like broke off as he had to order new ones he said…if they just fell he’d just pick them up and put them back

[@Ringbill27]

I like how much extra time was spent with the inertia guns. Even after two of the three had broken handles. I was going to call bullshit on this video till the SX4 won.

[@cenccenc946]

I grew-up in northern Minnesota. when bird hunting in minus 10 or 20, typically short stroking my 870 express was the biggest problem, but that was not the gun's fault. The most critical part of the "action" was frozen (me). 😆 🤣 😂

[@scottleggejr]

I watched this whooooole ass video and live in Arizona. I like your snow cactus you made at the end! 🌵🌵🌵🌵🌵

[@apriliaguy4life198]

Would have liked to have seen the Ultima in there too.

[@jerdabear18]

I want to see a test like this on the Browning A5!

[@shawnofthedead6362]

And that’s what I only shoot Winchester shotguns... but I would of like too have seen Remington in the mix love my remi also

[@tannerking4130]

You should have included the Remington versa max and the Retay gordion in the test. For the next video do something with pump shotguns!

[@danielt.3152]

Great that you are doing this

[@majdsawan4151]

Great vid! When is the benelli 828u and the Beretta silver pigeon showdown?

[@TargetFocusedLife]

Hopefully can get some content on these guns when I head South at the end of the month. 👊 Stay Target 🎯Focused (Hebrews 12:1-3)

[@majdsawan4151]

@@TargetFocusedLife Awsome!👍👍

[@wizardofahhhs759]

If I'm not mistaken Benelli owns Stoeger so that would explain why they both lost the charging handles.

[@Steelslinger]

I’d like to see that test in SX3, SX4, A5 and the gun of your choice.

[@coopernickerson7470]

Was surprised that no ice was formed inside the barrel that could have devastating effect when shooting.

[@theoutdoorduck701]

I would think the anertia powers guns would because the gas ports would shrink on gas powers ones

[@4774_mikejones]

I'm gonna say Beretta A400 Xtreme will win.

[@Snaproll47518]

Keeping a spare charging handle for the Benelli SBE while on a hunting trip is a good idea.

[@korywiley2336]

Inertia guns fire more reliably when shouldered good.

[@austinschmidt8027]

You have to respect the commitment! Great video 👍 Also have the same coat and love it.

[@ika2705]

You are the best!! 😀

[@guaporeturns9472]

Gas guns are better.. I’ve known this for years. And the sx4 is one of if not the best

[@azzajohnson2123]

You did not shoot consistently from the shoulder. Completely cooked your science.

[@jasonbrown5014]

Could you do muddy water tests and mud tests with these guns please

[@outdoorsmanofmichigan3858]

Great video.

[@paulk6077]

I own a SBE2 and had owned an A400. Both jammed/froze up in ice fog and freezing rain. My Benelli easily comes apart so I could de-ice it. The beretta is a chore to disassemble/reassemble with many parts. So if you only had a few minutes to clean your gun, which one would you choose ?

[@carterkampf2141]

Can you review impala plus shotguns

[@johndoeglogloku5333]

We need this for the shotgun world ! Definitely a garand thumb inspiration but thank you for opening a wave for shotguns!!!

[@TargetFocusedLife]

A viewer inspired the idea, we put it on the list for upcoming video shoots and like a week later the Garand Thumb freezing gun test came out and that motivated us to get it done!

[@erikwilson7622]

Have Win SX2, the original, 10's of thousands rounds thru it, only re-done the springs (recoil, and trigger assembly) once. Also have SBE2, and an A400. A400, too heavy, SBE2, awesome, but inertia,,

[@beorbeorian150]

Still using a 1990’s pump 870. No freeze ups