Surviving a DOUBLE THRESHOLD Workout at 8,000 Feet in KENYA

[@BenIsRunning]

Made a small oppsie, BIR15 = 15% off at team vaga not BEN15RUNNING :)

[@sensus5198]

Been following you for a year now and i just have to say i absolutely love the content Ben, you are such a big inspiration for me. Ive always loved running and during my teenage i was relatively competitive. Due to alot of reasons i gained record heavy weight for me at 130kgs 3 years ago and today im -40kg weighing at 90kg and now im aiming for my first marathon ever in Stockholm 31th May. I just wanna say a huge thanks to all the content and i wish you the best for your challenges ahead and im sure you will get that marathon pb soon enough. Keep it up ben, much love and respect!

[@BenIsRunning]

Absolutely love this and is exactly what motivates me to share my running on here so thank you for that! Wish you all the best in your stockholm victory lap.

[@p1xell640]

Goodluck ben on your training and to your Barcelona race

[@BenIsRunning]

Thank you, coming into some good shape :)

[@hunterlee1592]

Absolutely love the consistency. Have been tuning in for every video!

[@BenIsRunning]

Thanks bud, appreciate the support :)

[@Snerunseasy]

Thank you Ben , great one, I enjoy your videos... I've been watching for almost a year now , I watched one vid and subscribed immediately... keep them coming, I'm learning a lot. Wish all the best in your training. SA 🇿🇦 🫶

[@avifrunner]

A very enjoyable video, Ben. The shots are crystal clear and in the morning part you could almost smell the air… good luck, and waiting for the next Kenyan update :)

[@BenIsRunning]

Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it!

[@tomlast2277]

I always thought that double threshold days were solely lt2 session so thanks for the education and insight, great video 👊🏼

[@ninguemluc7398]

hey ben just know you´re my inspiration

[@rubarb1275]

Really enjoying the series 👍

[@dr.mohamedaitnouh4501]

Great workout and video ... thanks Ben! you are an inspiration

[@MrPringellZ]

Loving these vlogs mate, good luck for your upcoming races :)

[@BenIsRunning]

Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback :)

[@NoahSmith-m9z]

Do mustaches make distance runners faster?

[@BenIsRunning]

Yes, catches the oxygen in the air and directs it up the snoz

[@michaelr.8402]

@@BenIsRunning 🤓👌

[@frits8986]

@@BenIsRunning😂

[@johndavidson2747]

Increased resistance for training purposes

[@eloy5808]

Id say it wud Why wud he grow them? 😅😅😅

[@CSRunner7]

Sensible to cut sessions short when needed and listen to body. Good reminder as I often just do what it says!

[@lizzypicardi]

I do these too! I love them and found that they really improve my fitness !

[@ToddyWarner]

Love the vid Ben keep it up

[@BenIsRunning]

Thanks Toddy!

[@colinmeney]

Kenya looks beautiful 😍 Hope to make it out there one day. Nice video!

[@BenIsRunning]

I hope so too! It's hard to beat in my eyes :)

[@RiqWai]

Lactate Pro 2, solid!

[@JustBrowsing777]

Must be so good to have an actual training camp in Kenya 😎

[@BenIsRunning]

It is pretty great, I can't lie! A lot better than a year ago when i got injured in the week before and spend 6 weeks on the bike and elliptical :)

[@JustBrowsing777]

@BenIsRunning I remember that, imagine it's been a year already... Perhaps helps you appreciate this one even more. Also, you probably don't need reminders about training in British winter weather 😅 Greetings from 🇸🇪 where I literally train in a closet on a Zwift Ride bike due to weather and injury 🚴‍♂️

[@lowie8375]

I am doing Barcelona half , Good luck and might see you there 👍

[@BenIsRunning]

Hope your trainings going well, good luck to you too!

[@richardamorim6204]

I like your vídeos , i m from Portugal

[@BenIsRunning]

Thank you!

[@moggy992]

Love your content Ben. Always waiting for next update. Ive just had my first double week the wed double was 8 x 400 intervals in the morning the evening one was just outside my hm pace 4.5 miles. That looks really tough what you've done there.

[@BenIsRunning]

Double day's certainly will get you fit :) Thanks for following along!

[@chrislarkin8263]

Great video Ben looks a great place to train hope I get the opportunity one day ,just a quick question I see you wear the coros heart monitor arm band In most of your videos would you recommend this one as I use the Garmin chest strap which I like but is very uncomfortable after certain distances??

[@marcusgoebel8219]

Nice vídeo, as always! Will you do a group run/ shake out run in Barcelona?

[@BenIsRunning]

Thanks Marcus! I unfortunately don't arrive until Saturday mid morning so I don't think I will :)

[@marcusgoebel8219]

@@BenIsRunning ah okay, maybe a high five before the race 😅 enjoy Kenia 🇰🇪

[@grgr6720]

After my Marathon last October I took 3 months of easy and moderate runs everything well under LT1. Today I had my first LT1 session since the October Marathon block. 14 mins + 12 mins with 4 mins recovery jog. I had no idea what my pace would be. Unbelievably my LT1 pace is 20 seconds faster than what is was back in October. It seems too good to be true I want to repeat it to really believe it 😂😂

[@BenIsRunning]

I wouldn't be too surprised, just your ability at higher intensities has likely dropped a little. Sounds like you've certainly go some good base volume to build off though :)

[@IssieAndLife]

You may find it cool to check out Goran Winblad’s recent video on how his Vo2 max testing went after dropping from 14 hours of training per week to 5 hours! He also discussed the impact of easy base building on one of the athletes he coaches.

[@vayde]

Nice one Ben - are these kenyan running camp things open to joe public? Do you have any recommendations on that? Looks like a great fitness retreat, I'm sure you're loving being back out there again.

[@BenIsRunning]

Yes any one of any ability! I came out initially with 'running trips' who offer a two week camp called 'the kenya experience'! That was a great way to learn the way of the locals...now i just organise everything myself :)

[@hectorrevill5889]

Thank you so much Ben for sharing your phases during marathon training. I like to do Threshold training but didn’t really know how to apply it to the marathon until now. Do you have any other resources on applying threshold training to the marathon?

[@BenIsRunning]

Thanks hector! Only from my experience I'm afraid. I personally find it to be the most effective method of base building for endurance athletes and have seen this a common thread across some of the best coaches

[@hectorrevill5889]

@ Thanks Ben! See you in London 🫡

[@pramodsatpute5547]

Great 👍👌

[@adriaantermors8122]

Looked like a good day of training, Ben. How did you like the new Brooks, will you be doing a review on them? I have some Brooks for my faster trainings (Hyperion Max 2), and am quite curious what the racing shoes are like.

[@BenIsRunning]

I've only used them the once and plan to run the barcelona event in them so i'll share some thoughts then. Initial thoughts were very good, much better than i expected :) Feel similar to a adidas pro3/on cloudboom strike

[@HiddeFokker]

Nice retro oakleys tho👀

[@BenIsRunning]

I rate the eye jackets :)

[@doing_hard_things]

Why do you think all the elite Kenyans train on the dusty-looking tracks when there's that lovely rubber one you did your LT2 session on? Great vid as always mate.

[@BenIsRunning]

Unfortunately the track is privately owned so its a gate keeping problem. Most local athletes, if they arn't with a agent/brand have very little in the form of funds

[@doing_hard_things]

@@BenIsRunning Ah - that's interesting, thanks. You'd have thought the elites in e.g. Canova's group would be able to attract enough sponsorships/partnerships to use the good tracks. Shows how little money there is in the sport still.

[@jiefu1623]

Ben Felton, not Parkes right?!😂😂

[@Keeperlit_24]

Unbelievable runner

[@BenIsRunning]

Barely above average by kenyan standards but thank you :)

[@stevewode]

Does "half six" mean 6:30 or 5:30?

[@williampolinelli5939]

6:30

[@gengar678]

Nice video again Ben. I think labeling LT1 as threshold is incorrect or at least misleading, since ‘threshold’ has always been associated with the anaerobic threshold, not with LT1. So it might be a double day, it is not a double threshold day. Good luck with the race !

[@BenIsRunning]

I'd have to disagree. Its very common for double threshold days, at least following a Norwegian model, to feature a longer rep LT1 session in the morning, followed by a shorter rep LT2 session in the evening. Its more a case of understanding that 'threshold' is defined differently even across academia which is the source of confusion :)

[@gengar678]

@ the training method is correct, the terminology is not. In sports its commonly accepted that threshold refers to LT2, not 1. Anyway, no need to agree

[@BenIsRunning]

@ regarding my video as 'incorrect or at least misleading' is just not the case, simply because I don't follow your definition of threshold? I don't mind disagreeing either but surely it's just a case of understanding from a lactate stand point, there a two thresholds in an individual athletes physiology?

[@gengar678]

@ true. I did not try to say that you on purpose put misleading info or so, its definitely not critique towards you. My only point is that in training philosophy threshold training has always been associated to LT2. No atlete that has threshold training in his schedule thinks LT1 then. If you disagree then we just disagree no?

[@KulwanakuGilbert]

Ben i need your help please

[@luke6910]

As you are taking quite a science based approach now with LT1/2, are there any books or sources you read to get more knowledgeable on running? Or did your knowledge mainly come from coaches/friends etc

[@BenIsRunning]

Most of my knowledge comes from my coach Victor and his coach Mads :) A book id reccomend is "Norwegian Method' by Brad Culp... that explains the training threshold philosophy in a lot of detail :)

[@luke6910]

@@BenIsRunning I'll take a look, thanks :)

[@TheCanadianroots]

Love the content, I am also an (amateur) runner and live and work in Nairobi. Just spent last week at an awesome training camp called Run2Gether, an NGO trying to get Kenyan runners onto the track and mountain trail events, based near Mt Longonot. It’s a great atmosphere to be apart of and I know they would love to host you - let me know if you’re interested in more details. Keep building strong!

[@BenIsRunning]

Sounds great! As I'm only here for a short period, I'm prioritising my training here but appreciate the offer :)

[@arkkreative]

Whats the name of the second running track you went to train at ? Am in Kenya ad love to visit it

[@BenIsRunning]

Its a private track in Iten owned by the HATC. Only athletes staying at the camp have access to the facility :)

[@charliechurcher930]

Hi Ben, do you have a code for Soar?

[@BenIsRunning]

Im afraid not, sorry :)

[@sh7colina]

Hi Ben. How long was the rest for your 2k intervals and 400m reps?

[@BenIsRunning]

2k reps I took 2mins and 400m, 60 seconds. At sea level these recoveries would be 1 mins and 45sec but at altitude I find more recovery is necessary to stop the intensity drifting :)

[@sh7colina]

@@BenIsRunning Awesome, thank you sir!

[@EamonWilliams-p3w5d]

What’s the thing in the right corner????

[@BenIsRunning]

Its meg, hit it to subscribe :)

[@MatthewFenech26205]

What shoes would you currently recommend for long easy running, I had found the Nike Invincible 2 very good for such, but now my last pair of them has reached time to retire. Thanks in advance.

[@BenIsRunning]

I personally am really enjoying the New Balance 1080 v14 for me longer easy runs at the moment! Plenty of soft cushioning. For longer runs that start easy and progress, I prefer the Asics Superblast :)

[@TomMorgan1066]

Thanks for vid Ben what do you use to measure your lactate?

[@BenIsRunning]

Cheers Tom, I use the arkray lactate pro 2. Bit of an investment mind!

[@BrianErwin]

does evening workout keep your heart rate high? i did a morning run, and evening cycle, and my heart rate stayed pretty high for the whole night. sounds like you train three days a week, and only one day of threshold?

[@BenIsRunning]

My heart rate a night is not correlated my training, its constantly at around 40-45bpm so i can't comment, sorry. I do one day of double threshold currently but traing 6/7 days a week :) All my training can be found on strava :)

[@BrianErwin]

@@BenIsRunning will check it out

[@barryferebach8244]

Do you have a day job Ben or do you do YouTubing full time?

[@dr.mohamedaitnouh4501]

mind your Business you are close to troling

[@barryferebach8244]

@ not remotely close to trolling. Just asking a question.

[@barryferebach8244]

@ see you’ve got a KZbin channel, I’ll be sure to subscribe. This is a more of a trolling comment.

[@Team.L]

Good work👍🏻 but u gona burn out u if u should be here 7-8weeks to go so hard the 2 first week in this altitude. And ur training can have negativ inpakt in ur fitness when u go back in sea level! I have do that misstake sometimes. Best luck on ur training 🙏❤

[@BenIsRunning]

I'm here for 3 weeks and can ensure you that I'm managing intensities by modifying sessions with reduced paces, increased recovery between reps, running my easy runs at recovery paces and sleeping lots! Its a balancing act at altitude, I agree :) After 3 weeks here i have a scheduled down week, followed by the half marathon race. I guess we'll see who's right ;)

[@Team.L]

@BenIsRunning ok thats good👍🏻 I hope am wrong! Hope u all the best and success for that race💪 U should next time stay 8-12weeks for ur next big marathon and train with some good group where u can train all ur hard session with ladys who are 2.19-2.24marathoner .. am very sure u break that sub 2.20 easy! And get to next level on ur running journey👍🏻

[@killeremma]

so is there a trainer or are you just there doing your own thing?

[@BenIsRunning]

I do my own programme set my coach but often link up with other similar abilty runners, my europeans who are also training over here :) The kenyans are too fast!

[@richardamorim6204]

Hello you have exercises for some pain in my calves, tankes and enjoy your workout kenyan, i will like too go there,

[@BenIsRunning]

Afraid not sorry, my advise would be seen some professional advice from a physio or osteopath :) Glad your enjoying the Kenya videos Richard 👍

[@richardamorim6204]

@@BenIsRunning tanks

[@sadcold]

What the camera u use for filming this??

[@BenIsRunning]

An insta360 go3s

[@KulwanakuGilbert]

Please Please ben

[@KulwanakuGilbert]

Ben your now in am here in Uganda. Please support me with shoes

[@geert574]

Man I wish I lived in Kenya always sun and quiet

[@BenIsRunning]

It certainly is pretty peaceful out here :)

[@ZanicL3]

Nah you dont. Its not all roses and sunshine

[@fjskers]

keep the oakleys eye jacket going ben, theyre PR ready just for you

[@BenIsRunning]

ahah, they are a bit lairy for Kenya mind.