Surviving Mars - 1165% Max Difficulty! (Part 3)

[@AllenYCLau]

Pravus: almost had panic attack and breakdown in last Surviving Mars playthrough because of disasters. Also Pravus: Not enough disasters.

[@ingleacre6480]

Breakthroughs are indeed locked to each seed, it's just the order they're revealed that's randomized each playthrough

[@aaronbaker2186]

One sort of exception. About sol 3 you generally get a positive event. Some of those events give breakthroughs (the no cost/maintenance power lines and pipes ones for instance). I had to reload after getting that, got something crappy, and reloaded 3 more times to get the event back.

[@ingleacre6480]

@@aaronbaker2186 TIL!

[@kellyoateskelly]

Well during my run on this map I got the extractor AI so he will be save at some point.

[@Fluffy_Hair_Dan]

Literally this turned into a one man podcast and I'm so happy about it

[@telebob22]

I'm on the "Pravus should start over with mods disabled" team. BTW, wheat is a trap. Start immediately with soybeans, you'll just squeak by to the first harvest, but you'll be golden after that.

[@sempervelox]

I think you need to let him know on the discord. On a positive note, we may see another max difficulty playthrough, after this one.

[@billy9075]

What’s wrong with having Luke’s speed mod enabled?

[@KainYusanagi]

@@billy9075 From another comment: "Any mod that has a script breaks the disasters"

[@joshuaspeer2503]

an average comfort rating of 69 sure is nice, but at the end of the day that's not how you get babies.

[@samueltrusik3251]

In this episode of "Surviving Mars": It`s quiet... too quiet! Food stability and a lack of water! Ramps galore! Population growth! And more useless breakthroughs!

[@sddndsiduae4b-688]

few mistakes: 1. sensor towers has local boost area (and local boost is huge), so if you have ability to build them far apart you should use it. --2. bigger dome (proper small dome) is much better than two smaller ones.-- edited: unless there is specific bonus for micro dome which is the case -- sorry for my mistake... 2.1. if you forced to build several domes then one (with worse comfort) should be used for children and seniors. 3. smart home gives building for seniors, and you already has building for children - nursery, they more compact per human, so you can use dome space for something else, amphitheater gives bonus to comfort(indirectly), so by not building it you losing some births. 4. underground now has more passages and there also work for explorer, but probably you should have second explorer (instead of wasting money on research) sent there, may be only way to win it is to lose one goal(human on mars on the timer) and invest in more long time science. bug for not having disaster at all is pretty common.

[@redblarin8030]

I was surprised he didn't make small dome to start and then the micro dome for seniors later

[@jenniferhamels1176]

The micro dome he has built has double comfort boost bonuses. So there is no issue for births there. Everything you mentioned are great tips for a normal playthrough. This isn't a normal playthrough. He had to cut corners to make sure he completed the achievement to get people down here by sol 15.

[@Alienalloy]

I'm an old C&C 'r no idea how i found this but it popped up, typically just before i needed to go to bed, never heard of it before, but i loved it and your commentary, enough to watch the whole lot whilst finishing off the Christmas whisky, and probably blow out what i was gonna do tomorrow.. thanks...subscribed.

[@Jaxvidstar]

If you had three upright triangle habitats. You could call them Courage Power and Wisdom.

[@heinrichguil1524]

Good set of rules. I tried it on a flat map without this nice double vistas and got cold snap on day 21, on day 23 colony was devastated by meteor shower.

[@paulhoughton1691]

NO DUST DEVILS or COLD SPELLS!!!! You need to restart a new game with NO mods at all. Save the game, then reactivate the mods. Trust me it works. This map location in particular is prone to this bug. THis is easier than no max settings

[@jamesdinius7769]

There literally have been dust devils. You just want to make it slower.

[@paulhoughton1691]

@@jamesdinius7769 No full max dust devils, no cold waves and no dust storms. the new update has fixed this glitch now. There were always a few dust devils just not max. On day 8ish you should get a dust storm, this didn't happen.

[@frankthedsigner558]

Agree, mods don't make it fun. If you want to make it a real challenge then play vanilla.

[@billy9075]

@@frankthedsigner558 a speed boost doesn’t ruin the game. The all sponsor buildings mod or infinite wonders mod makes the game no fun, Luke’s 10X speed mod doesn’t ruin anything.

[@samohawesome]

Did you even watch episode 1, he explicitly said the only mod he has is one that let's him do 10x speed

[@basicgdot1593]

Large waste rock dumping sites can stop dust devils. Just put one underneath one and watch it disappear. you can also set up a protective boundary round you colony or anywhere else that needs protecting. ;)

[@MusicHarmony41]

I just finished the previous maximum difficulty playlist and I have also bought surviving mars finally because of you. Im glad you’re making more surviving mars series

[@phcristian23]

Any mod that has a script breaks the disasters. You will get only a meteor storm around sol 9 as you did. If you want disasters, remove any mod that needs a script to function and restart the game :)

[@Team_BaM]

You need to read the wiki for Sensor Towers. It has important and non-apparent information that explains why you're scanning so slow.

[@brentknickerbocker6023]

You can choose the path of your dome to dome tubes if you click on the point you want them to turn. Then you can come in at the angle that you need to reach the cell you wanted. You can shift click the flatten tool to get more area

[@Nemurica]

I Have An Exam Later But We Need To Watch Pravus Video First Rather Than Studying

[@yanhakan9519]

Same

[@thatoneguy9659]

Gotta say, I've never before heard that pronunciation of evaporator before.

[@_Grumpy_Panda_]

No dust devils: Already had three.

[@christianvanderstap6257]

Just pray you get the refugee event. Feels very weird to have no cold spots and no dust devils for a max difficulty game.

[@paulhoughton1691]

Its because he started with mods. He needs to restart the game with no mods, save the game, then reactivate the game.

[@manuelaguirreurreta5004]

I mean if the birth thing starts slowing down, raiding is always up for grabs >:)

[@Strabo4]

re: 16:15 chaos theory will scramble the breakthroughs for a map, not sure about the randomization one. and yes the order is locked in as soon as you start the map, but if you have chaos theory and use the restart map option you can shuffle them

[@kiritotheabridgedgod4178]

From what everyone is saying, it appears that breakthroughs are solid locked to the seed, only thing that changes is the order they come up, so he's guaranteed that extractors don't need workers tech. Just not right now.

[@orswock3054]

16:58 The perfect timing don't exis......

[@freedonnadd6233]

I do love watching you suffer, scream, and yell so I say start over with all the disasters happening. 😉

[@andstufff]

Should I send these children to work in the airless gold mine? But do we want the art store?

[@jamesdinius7769]

Here's the thing. Breakthroughs are hard coded to the map SEED. This location will always have the same breakthroughs (unless an update changes it which does happen).

[@Slimjim2982]

Waited all weekend lol

[@GreaterD]

the breaktroughs you can get from the map itself, are seed locked, but breaktroughs from planetary anomolies and events are still random

[@criffly]

You should restart. The point on the max dif series are the desasters, 3 modifiers and the location are only to amplify it, without it, it's only a normal run

[@Skellow]

On the Subject of Natural Disasters: I believe that you need to reload your game for the optional disasters rating to take affect; I had a similar issue in a new game with maximum Cold Waves (CW*). First hour of gameplay saw Zero CW, but after one reload, I must have had at least three in the first 40+ minutes, thereafter. On the Subject of Restarting: You are the Content Creator, so it is your choice; that being said, since you asked us to give our opinion on the matter, if your third Breakthrough Tech is another "Dud", I would advise a restart. A restart at this stage of the series certainly would not be a bother, to me.

[@CrazyVolus]

Over 20 sols in with no dust storms or cold waves? I'm thinking it's bugged.

[@electronicmusicmaster4793]

Count your blessings no disasters because as soon as I landed on a max dificult run i instantly got a cold wave and a dustorm

[@oiller05]

Pravus has earned the Winer Trait this Video.

[@matthiasrasmussen9998]

you made 4 sensors and place them on top of each other... you do know that the sensor tower increase scanning my alot in the area around it so if you spread them out you scan much faster, and with no maintenance you can spread them out alot and get faster scanning ;)

[@nicklopez3383]

I don't understand why you would have to restart if you didn't get the breakthroughs you want. Isn't one of the purposes of having randomized breakthroughs is to adapt and overcome challenges with the hand you were dealt? If they were absolutely needed, I think the developers would have unlocked all breakthroughs from the beginning.

[@maniac6655]

You are playing as Paradox Interactive ... they are immune to disasters 😂

[@marktisdale8058]

There used to be a breakthrough mod that mitigated that somewhat. It allowed you a choice of one out of three each time a breakthrough occurred.

[@paulferry7791]

You do know that when you are trying to flatten out an area, you can hold the CTRL or SHIFT button and then press the mouse button and "paint" a swathe of area you are attempting to flatten.

[@anialator1000000]

Yeah, breakthroughs are set in stone per map outside of a few rules and exceptions. There are websites out there you can use to find maps that have specific breakthroughs, max difficulty, certain amounts of resources, etc. You can enter in paramaters like 1 bar for each resource which also has 1-2 specific breakthroughs on it and then sort by difficulty, and even see the terrain layouts for the map. very useful if you want a really hard challenge map that has special breakthroughs.

[@kellyoateskelly]

If you spread you scanners/antennas to different sectors around your colony it is a little faster

[@jobkrabbendam7968]

the polimer came out of the meteor

[@jesusismful]

When making a passageway, click outside the dome to make it turn.

[@lefterismplanas4977]

The series looks good. Please continue

[@tristanj-m]

I just remembered I had gotten this for free on epic games a few months ago, time to go download it

[@danielross7983]

Not sure if you know... but the way you were placing down those 'flatten' regions, may be you didn't know... but if you hold Shift when placing the area, you can "draw" an area... instead of having two separate 'flatten' zones.

[@MrSHADOWANGEL999]

breakthroughs breaking pravus

[@frowningfaun4528]

Love this game. I started playing with chaos theory always. Its harder when you don't get the farm until late game, but if you can get mohole mine early its game on time.

[@MrSurabane]

Idea for your next series: Play with breakthroughs turned off. I'm interested how low of a difficulty you think you need to win without them since you were freaking out about not finding them this episode.

[@CirqueitOfficial]

I do find this game to be particularly hard compared to other RTS games. Its also one of the most fun (Or I would not be trying to attempt it at the hardest difficulty otherwise)

[@Rich-MarsEco]

His game is bugged, a lot of this was patched in the December update. I kind of wish he started the series after or on the update. It added (not as hard, but hard) two new commanders and a lot of modifications and bug fixes. One of note are the changes to Fungi Farming.

[@couch_potatoes]

Parvus when he came up with the idea :💰🤑💵💳

[@Amelia_Scp_and_Halo_fan]

if the karma hit good luck and i love your video.

[@jAfr0Thunder86]

Hey Pravus. I loved your Plague Inc series. Good fun, taught me a lot. My turn to teach you: Ramps - If you hug the cliff with your ramp construction, it uses a lot less waste rock. Useful if you need them built fast. Not helpful if you're trying to use up waste rock. If you choose to shout me out ( no worries if you don't) then call me Afr0Thunder86. If you or anyone reading this likes listening to D&D podcasts, then check out Nat 1 Adventures on all the places podcasts are found. Cheers.

[@iamking132]

Cool series

[@buuam7555]

31:00 sounds like Logan's Run

[@Univenon]

The funny thing is that ranches are pretty good for any run you use the amateurs rule, because they don't require botanists to run at full capacity.

[@ricorommeldumaplin4822]

I do wonder, does the scanning of areas becomes faster near sensor towers if so then placing them on the areas you want to scan would be revealed faster ( hopefully )

[@brunosuarez6283]

They do scan faster around them, but even if you get the tech to make them to not need manteinance, you still spend/invest 0.8 electronics per tower. You need to send a commander and a transporter+1 drone to the area.

[@roellemaire1979]

Is it better to have 2 shifts with 1 person, or 1 shift with 2 person in an extractor?

[@davidstocker2278]

Just started this series. How long until pravus figured out the disaster bug is from his 10x time mod?

[@jakubdrahota9043]

Yeah B&B update is a mess and it's reviews generally speak for themselves.

[@samueltrusik3251]

FINALLY, MORE OF YOUR BEST SERIES!

[@maciejkieb2936]

Increase birth rate? Cut the power! :D -> New York city case and others

[@Salveta96]

Underground quakes take disaster slots so that might be the reason for the lack of surface disasters

[@arnaudbouret5562]

- Re. breakthroughs - of course you can "win" without the game-altering ones showing up, but it requires some very tight management early on - "I have nothing to do with this rocket at the moment" he says, with $1.1Bn in the bank but only 4 electronics left and no means of producing more xD - I don't think it's your mods that bugged disasters out, as I've had that bug with a completely different set from yours - this may be the actual reason you should restart a game - Up to you whether you want to try a purist max difficulty playthrough (with no rival colonies); if you do, you're really going to have to tighten your play - If you're feeling masochist, boot up "Zombie Research" and get that 400% research speed penalty, which makes the tech game one that requires a good deal of thought and some knowledge of the tree - DON'T load up ChoGGI's permanent disasters, even if you are a masochist xD

[@nemesis851_]

Let them go home at night, and work on babies

[@attilastevekopias]

No offense, but that's not Max Difficulty. You clearly don't have any disasters. I've just tried something pretty similar: a different map with two vistas, last ark, long earth-mars distance, and all disasters cranked to max, etc. for a 700 difficulty. I've got a ton of dust storms and cold waves from the very beginning. Meaning that a) I've had to have way more power/water/air stored, and b) morale took a huge hit from the disasters. It was a difficult challenge even to survive in the short run, but these two also caused a way lower birth rate that was not enough to replenish the aging population and game over.

[@albinaminkus]

Just staring at that "one unemployed person" notification for 10 minutes.

[@kova1577]

0:40 you vill eat ze soy and be happy

[@tompeled6193]

Can you build a senior death dome to deal with the seniors?

[@its_uncle_carl3898]

@Pravus if you build or lower terrain l higher terrain it will provide waste rock instead of requiring it. Not sure if that changed with any updates but its something i remember from my last play time

[@stupified007]

yeah, without disasters this game is going to be rudimentary and easy. This is definitely not a max difficulty play through, despite you attempting to set it up to be one. Just start it over until it spawns with the standard cold spots on the map.

[@Magnum-eo5it]

Can you find breakthroughs in the underground?

[@macman3898]

yes you can, but it is not always worth it in the early game if the shafts are also far away and you don't have much money to buy more RC commanders and explorers, which is what is happening in his case

[@-vz-]

thx

[@blackgard3253]

Cool

[@flaviusgerhardt9354]

Nice

[@cracked4707]

Amazing series. Although I don't understand what you are saying 100% of the time.

[@sempervelox]

100% of the time??

[@whatandwhy810]

lets goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[@stevegardner6139]

i think the game is trying to lower guard before it hits you

[@krakyr]

👍👍👍

[@makinator5178]

So uhh.... Wasn't the introduction of the amphitheatre something that was really good early game? Kinda baffled he hasn't built one yet... If I remember right (I probably don't though) it's essentially a budget art shop, no? Also I internally scream every time he refuses to go underground with the rover xD I mean I don't have the dlc (yet) but still, I imagine it's worth it to just send one down and buy another right? One underground, one above? Sure it's money but I imagine there's anomalies and stuff down there

[@demrandom]

the problem with going down with a rover is you don't have the resources down there to build lights or supports, so you can't explore or stabilize any decent amount of space. You also need iirc another RC thing to clear out the constant rock blockades, which you can't bring down without an elevator yet. So you're basically gambling an explorer on being able to find an anomaly right away, which likely isn't the case.

[@SirBlaze75]

your scanning is so terrible because it's based on proximity to your towers,and since you built your towers in 1 space like always it's pretty much all tied to that 1 location

[@Psychobolic77]

I bet the difficulty via disasters scales somewhat to colony size. Just a hunch.

[@korne6121]

How do they allow a pregnant woman on a rocket lol

[@Kane0640]

I find shift clicking when you flaten land much easier to clear a large area

[@Pattunas1]

couldn't synthetic citizens help alleviate the bad breakthroughs?

[@Talsin1989]

You have to do way instain mother

[@halosldr]

You need to restart and disable mods to get disasters. Otherwise this will be a very boring series

[@daviddeacon3646]

This guy talks so fast It's like watching on double speed.

[@djsnowpdx]

It is possible to play on maximum difficulty with no map knowledge and no “good” breakthroughs on maximum difficulty and bring your colony to success. Pravus is not employing all the strategies to get you there, and that is why Pravus thinks “good” breakthroughs are essential. Get gud

[@L.Z.-]

Is this ben shapiro’s gaming channel?

[@3company394]

Imagine purposely trying a max difficulty run and then find out it’s not and saying that’s better for me. Then saying my mod must have glitched the save and blaming it on the devs. Lol. Cmon bud You need to be raging and restarting. Not a good impression for new viewers like me. Until never

[@maximilianschaffert]

start a new series and keep this one going, for comparisson ?

[@GhostsOfSparta]

Why does turker karlson sound like you?

[@__-bv2vd]

Why is he just using one cropcycel?

[@skywalker6678]

i beat the game with this mode you came so long to unload

[@TheGretalian]

letsss goooooooo (And First)

[@flaviusgerhardt9354]

Nice