Surviving Winter - Cheap Sports Car Challenge 04 - Really Tired | Everyday Driver

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Surviving Winter in our Cheap Sports Cars seems impossible to many, but we're driving them all the time and counting on the tires. We take our $7,000 and less convertibles into a snowy parking lot to show the difference between winter tires and all-season tires. Along the way there's sliding and a sideways blizzard during tire swap just to keep things interesting.
00:00 - 1:00 Intro
1:00 - 2:05 The Plan
2:05 - 6:07 Winter Tires
6:07 - 11:21 All-Season Tires
11:21 - Conclusions and Strategies
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@kirkwagner461
@kirkwagner461 3 жыл бұрын
The difference is even more stark between winter tires and summer tires. I spent most of my life driving cars with all-seasons, and my first experience with summer tires on snow was shocking. I'm convinced most people who think their car is horrible on snow really just have the wrong tires.
@peterscott2662
@peterscott2662 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have been on all types, and there is a continuum. A below average winter tire and above average all season might be about equal in snow. But Summer tires are absolutely unusable on snow and ice. Just for fun I went around the block on my real Summer tires on the first snow dusting of 1 cm, I was fighting to stay on the road at 15 KM/h. It was just sliding off the small crown in the road you don't even think exists in normal conditions. Lately for my non-sports cars, I am interested in All-Weather tires that tilt more in favor of winter performance. I wouldn't ever use them on my Miata, because they would suck in summer and likely get destroyed by spirited driving.
@autotempest
@autotempest 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, summer tires on snow are just hilarious. I got caught out one time on my Pilot Supersports, and once there was the lightest dusting of snow on the ground there was basically no ability to stop whatsoever. (Fortunately I was almost home when it started, and managed to limp it back to the garage without incident!)
@lofthousehh
@lofthousehh 3 жыл бұрын
That’s very true, and I was very surprised that people in the USA don’t use winter tires that much.
@JuanLopez-kw9of
@JuanLopez-kw9of 3 жыл бұрын
Just went through a "Winter Storm" here in Texas last week . Needless to say, the results were inevitable . People driving like it's summer. I understand a one week storm does not warrant snow tires but it does warrant slowing down and no sudden maneuvers. I moved here from Chicago many years ago and am still amazed how poorly Texans drive in just a dusting of snow
@cocoyc495
@cocoyc495 3 жыл бұрын
After 30 years of driving, this was the first winter I've used winter tires and I can't believe the difference. Luckily we had plenty of snow and cold days this winter for me to test them out. I'm definitely sold on them.
@FastlifeTodd
@FastlifeTodd 3 жыл бұрын
I put snow tires on all my cars that I drive in the snow
@SuperDaveAz.
@SuperDaveAz. 2 жыл бұрын
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@ghuldorgrey
@ghuldorgrey 2 жыл бұрын
Wow 30 years?! Winter tires are a must by law for 4 months a year in most european countries
@davidbauer1485
@davidbauer1485 3 жыл бұрын
The good ole days, a cheap, junk 66 Mustang convertible, bald bias ply tires, crappie and worn drum brakes, leaking shockers, squaking suspension brought over from the Ford Falcon; how did we survive? More worried about the old heater hose holding out. Couldn't get the windshield too warm because the ice would melt and drip in your lap, wet pants not good. And it was uphill both ways! You young whiper snappers and your fancy German roadsters with antilocks have it sooo good! :)
@phattyhales
@phattyhales 3 жыл бұрын
I used to daily drive my 67 Mustang that we have featured on this channel twice through the Utah winter with no heater! I know what you mean! But I greatly prefer my current daily on winter tires lol
@misterdarkcloud2384
@misterdarkcloud2384 3 жыл бұрын
multiple decades of driving in the snow on whatever cheap ass tires I could afford not gonna lie more grip is better but driving smarter, leaving room to stop taking into account that you don't have the grip has always worked for me.
@thomasxbl
@thomasxbl 3 жыл бұрын
The video illustrates the differences perfectly. The all season tires essentially have shockingly little grip in all directions: They are terrible for braking, they are even worse for handling.
@sq_paradox
@sq_paradox 3 жыл бұрын
It's thanks to you guys that I know you can drive a RWD car in the winter and I do! BRZ daily driver on Blizzaks in New England. It's surprisingly good in snow. Ground clearance is really the only issue.
@dougrobinson8602
@dougrobinson8602 3 жыл бұрын
Almost every car made was rear wheel drive for many decades. Didn't stop us geezers from going out! Modern snow tires are incredible. Unless you live in an extremely hilly area, or get lots of snow and can't wait for the plows to clear streets, then RWD is fine with the right tires. Drifting through corners in winter is so fun, I go out in snow just for the sport of it.
@tomycont
@tomycont 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, not alone. I use my blizzaks in New England. The best thing is getting to the ski resorts with everyone staring at you from their 4 x 4's.
@mattguerra82
@mattguerra82 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah.. I remember my FRS back in Chicago, going on blizzaks just fine while lots of SUVs got stuck. It's the best thing.
@keyboarddancers7751
@keyboarddancers7751 3 жыл бұрын
I've driven a Gen 7 Celica in heavy snow with a full set of winters; absolutely astonishing how well it held the road. Completely remapped my idea of driving in winter. I now run an old Octavia workhorse with a full set of all seasons which I keep fitted all the time. Not as excellent as winters of course but here in the north of England which doesn't often get heavy long lasting snow, all seasons are an excellent compromise. I'm convinced that standard summer tyres are a dangerous waste of time in winter conditions. I'm also convinced that 95% of 4x4/AWD drivers have wasted their money.
@dougantelman2369
@dougantelman2369 Жыл бұрын
Lived in New England, wouldn’t think of driving without winter tires
@transtubular
@transtubular 3 жыл бұрын
In SW WA, we get so little snow anymore that it's more like simply driving as though it's winter when the snow does appear. We just don't get an accumulation of snow long enough to justify actual Winter tires. It was literally two weeks ago in fact that we got our first snow (more than 1/4 of an inch) of this winter. I miss the old days when we could get snow to stick around for several weeks, but I don't miss the series of drivers who don't know how to drive in it. You just can't drive the same way in snow as you do any other time. Especially here where we almost always get 1/4 of an inch of ice on top of it.
@nirfz
@nirfz 3 жыл бұрын
A set of good winter tires usually is still cheaper than a replacement bumper... Tires are a safety investment.
@Fee.1
@Fee.1 3 жыл бұрын
Blizzarding. Like hurricaning for winter.
@325xitgrocgetter
@325xitgrocgetter 3 жыл бұрын
My wife commented on the expense of winter tires...my response, cheaper than a tow or insurance deductible.
@doctorferdinand1003
@doctorferdinand1003 3 жыл бұрын
In the northeast most commuters just buy CUVs and gimped part time AWD systems and think they are invincible in the snow. Its always funny seeing them fight for grip while my little ole civic Si with WS90s can plow through the snow like its rain.
@ilikerealflight
@ilikerealflight 3 жыл бұрын
Drive a midsize pickup year round. Notoriously light rear end, (added sandbags to help), run a set of nokians and drive in RWD 98% of winter (unless we get a dump). Had the misfortune of being caught out early season with worn AT's, on icy roads, absolutely terrifying. Extremely thankful to have been driving middle of the night with no-one else around. Swapped tires next morning.
@rogermwoodbury4966
@rogermwoodbury4966 3 жыл бұрын
In my productive days my clients were scattered all over the state of Maine and I was on the road four and sometimes five days a week year round. In those days the only viable option for me was to run studded snow tires on all four wheels (rear wheel drive cars). After retiring I lived in a more rural area and I had a series of Audi Quattros which performed extremely well on all season tires. Last May I bought a "new" (17000 mile) 2004 Mercedes CLK. My intent was to drive it year round although not in severe weather conditions when I'd stay home or take the 4X4 truck. But it had been a very long time since I had driven a Mercedes rear wheel drive vehicle in winter, so I did as I had done years ago and bought winter wheels and since I had no need for every day driving in the car, proper winter tires with the three peak/snowflake symbol. While we didn't have a tremendous amount of snow this winter the big difference that I could feel in just very cold driving, was that the tires were far more responsive generally than any other sort of snow or cold weather tires than I have ever experienced before. The few times when I was out in the CLK and the driving conditions were more severe than I liked, the winter tires were most impressive.
@jcb317537
@jcb317537 3 жыл бұрын
Winter tires seem like a frivolous expense until the first of many times they save your life and others lives. My first time on snow tires blew my mind, even with AWD.
@autotempest
@autotempest 3 жыл бұрын
The other thing to remember is that over the long term the expense isn't that great. If you're switching between two sets of tires when the seasons change, they all last twice as long, so over the long term you're not actually buying more tires. And if you get a cheap set of winter wheels, you can swap them yourself, so it's really just a half hour of your time twice a year.
@kevin9c1
@kevin9c1 3 жыл бұрын
@@autotempest One issue is the winter capabilities diminish as the tread wears. So you can't run them down to 4/32" like you may have with other tires. Or you can, but your results will change dramatically as they wear.
@autotempest
@autotempest 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevin9c1 Good point. Although I guess you could argue that even a worn winter tire is going to be better than a summer tire, so even if you run them down you'd still be better off. (But yeah, you shouldn't.) Edit: and often winter tires come with more tread to start with than summers, so perhaps that makes up for having to replace them with more...
@irou95
@irou95 5 ай бұрын
I have a z4 e85 and I drive in Finland in the winter with studs, it's not the safest thing in the world but it's the most fun. The only real problem is the ride height, once ice starts to form some shapes on the road my front bumber is totally wrecked by just driving straight.
@josephschlueter4082
@josephschlueter4082 3 жыл бұрын
I have daily driven an NC MX-5 in the Minnesota Twin Cities metro area for 4 years, after 8 years of an RX-8 as a year round daily. I have never had a problem in the winter with dedicated winter tires. You are totally correct, with all season tires in winter snow and ice you are completely screwed.
@ZakWilson
@ZakWilson 3 жыл бұрын
RWD has an undeserved reputation for being bad in slippery conditions based on peoples' experiences with pickup trucks and the like that don't have their weight balanced for good handling. I find it preferable to FWD since the same tires aren't being asked to both transmit power and steer. I'm glad to see this video helping educate people on that.
@dannyphillips8793
@dannyphillips8793 3 жыл бұрын
I've spent way to much time searching Z4's the past few months every time a new episode in this series drops.
@senseicorey9979
@senseicorey9979 3 жыл бұрын
I fell in love with one at a dealership I worked at great car..... It blew up the second time I drove it
@allancatellier7424
@allancatellier7424 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you sure are 😅
@senseicorey9979
@senseicorey9979 3 жыл бұрын
@Alaberti totally my fault, was young and trying to drive a stick like I knew what I was doing....downshifted to the wrong gear.....appears to be an interference engine....😬
@MrFatbard
@MrFatbard 2 жыл бұрын
man its videos like this that make me miss living in utah
@MrSlowestD16
@MrSlowestD16 3 жыл бұрын
Anybody who lived in a snowy climate gets winters. There's 2 types of people in winter: 1. People with civics or whatever who put snow tires on their car & are fine. 2. People who leave 4 all-seasons on their SUV and end up in the ditch or stuck in their driveway. "All seasons" just means that they suck in all seasons.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 3 жыл бұрын
We also notice that many AWD SUV drivers just assume AWD will save them. Can’t count the number of times we’ve passed struggling SUVs in something small and RWD. Tires are are everything. Thanks for watching!
@rdiamond655
@rdiamond655 10 ай бұрын
Bring in WINTER!! I’ve put Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires on the stock wheels for my GR86.
@duosonic391
@duosonic391 3 жыл бұрын
Love this episode. Well, I typically love them all. But I daily drive a 94 Miata R package, and change wheels and tires according to the season. Running Michelin X-Ice Xi3 this winter and last, with plenty of snow this year. Coworkers think I am crazy using a RWD sports car in the snow, they believe you have to have 4WD or AWD, and yet they run the same no-seasons year round.
@dauwg99
@dauwg99 2 жыл бұрын
You guys literally have the best job ever.
@superglue46
@superglue46 3 жыл бұрын
This was my first winter with our new (to us) Lexus GS350 AWD on brand new General Alitmax Arctics, and we got a lot of snow. I couldn't get the damn thing to slide even with the traction control fully off, and I couldn't do entertaining snow burnouts.. the thing just hooked up and launched. This wasn't my first winter on snow tires, but it was my first winter with a powerful AWD car with snow tires. I was genuinely impressed both with the GS and the snow tires. I was also bored.
@michaellaw2407
@michaellaw2407 2 жыл бұрын
GS350 RWD owner here, good to hear ur GS was doing well in snow with the Generals. I was stuck in half inches of snow in last Seattle winter with Dunlop Signature HP all-season tires. I learned a heavy lesson.
@gooddawg4517
@gooddawg4517 3 жыл бұрын
Cars go where your eyes go. Don't look at the pole. ha ha
@stevensumner3146
@stevensumner3146 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this vid it should be shown to youngsters as part of driving lessons 👏
@colinsdad1
@colinsdad1 Жыл бұрын
I'm just watching this video a year after you released it, but, your Cheap Sports car video led me to buy a one owner Chrysler Crossfire - for 6500$. As the vehicle I owned for 13 (!) Years finally died, I realized I needed to find something cheap in the interim, thus the Crossfire. I also had a set of Continental Viking Contact Snows installed two months ago, as we usually get quite a bit of snow here in Central Massachusetts. With their super low profile, I wasn't sure what to expect, but, they've been a Godsend so far this Winter! Now.... Just have to get a set of Summer tires in a few months. And yes, the Crossfire, since it's basically a Mercedes SLK, doesn't have EVERY system running well, but, it drives well and that's what counts.... Especially in today's used car market, where everything is overpriced!
@jehl1963
@jehl1963 2 жыл бұрын
The other aspect of driving a sports car (potentially with significant aluminum content in the chassis) in the winter is corrosion. Yes, many BMW and VAG products have galvanized bodies, but it's the suspension pieces that become a concern. Unless you maintain a decent coat of undercoating on everything, you'll start to run into galvanic corrosion in the suspension pieces. Chances are you won't see it, but it will occur in bolt-holes where the aluminum comes in contact with steel components. It will make taking things apart later a real bear. A common place where this is a problem on BMW and VAG products are the sway bar linkages, where they bolt through the bearing carriers. Undercoating is your friend!
@tom_forsyth
@tom_forsyth 2 жыл бұрын
I got a Focus RS and needed the winter tires. The dealer did NOT want to sell them on those - they REALLY wanted me to get the fancy R-compound ones because "fast car". Yeah but I need a snow/gravel car, so they finally were persuaded. Michelin Alpin PA4 winter tires. Here's the thing - they're fantastic year-round. I have tried them in the snow - they work great. But I drive them year-round. I even took them to the track. They're not bad! The Focus RS has 350hp and they coped really nicely - good G-forces and got some lovely slides going. For about four laps, then they started to overheat and the shoulders started to evaporate. So OK, they're not track-day tires :-) But on the road they really are "all weather" tires - just use them year-round, no need to swap them out. They're so good, I put them on my Nissan GT-R. Now I can do more than 50mph when it rains without aquaplaning! And they last more than 6000 miles! And yes, they are absolutely fine in launch mode - the car is still bonkers-fast. Yes, if I were doing track-days I'd use different tires (but I have a racecar for that anyway), but for road use these things are so impressive. I get why they call these "winter tires" and not "all seasons" because truly the performance in the snow is fantastic. But the summer performance is great too.
@DaddyDan77
@DaddyDan77 3 жыл бұрын
When you said both had open differentials, that just made me sad. (Mostly because I firmly believe any RWD vehicle with sporting pretensions ought to have an LSD.)
@ilyadurnev5586
@ilyadurnev5586 3 жыл бұрын
In Russia winter tires are mandatory for 3 winter months. The cars are stopped by cops and towed otherwise
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 3 жыл бұрын
ABS wasn't designed to get you stopped in the best way on all surfaces. In fact ABS wasn't designed for optimized stopping at all; it was designed to allow you to keep steering while threshhold braking. In snow, sand, gravel, it's better to fully lock to stop sooner (assuming you don't need to steer). When it comes to winter tires, accept no substitute: Nokian Hakkapeliitta.
@ArnoSchmidt70
@ArnoSchmidt70 3 жыл бұрын
This looks more and more like a serious operation. Well done, guys.
@vinterskog
@vinterskog 3 жыл бұрын
I lived in Norway with only a MX-5 as a car. With the right tyres, it works like a charm in the snow even as a RWD because its weight is perfectly spread.
@letsgobrandon416
@letsgobrandon416 3 жыл бұрын
At least here in New England I'm happy with my all weather tires from Nokian. They are as good as the last set of winters I had.
@smcombs100
@smcombs100 3 жыл бұрын
Michigan State Police use them on their interceptors.
@Xander1Sheridan
@Xander1Sheridan 3 жыл бұрын
can't beat Nokian.
@guillaumechauvet
@guillaumechauvet 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know about the rest of Canada but here in quebec it's required by law to have snow tires. It wasn't always like this, but its definetly a good thing
@richards1816
@richards1816 3 жыл бұрын
British Columbia too on all highways outside of Vancouver
@cayman9873
@cayman9873 3 жыл бұрын
Socialist government.. enjoy.
@Milnoc
@Milnoc 3 жыл бұрын
@@cayman9873 Quebec has socialist health care, socialist car insurance and socialist electricity. The lights are on, the people don't go broke when they're sick, and there are many fewer road accidents and deaths during the winter now that winter tires are compulsory.
@maxcactus7
@maxcactus7 3 жыл бұрын
13:45 - I freely admit I puckered up pretty tight there expecting the worst. Winter tires to the rescue!
@samuelorellana2603
@samuelorellana2603 3 жыл бұрын
can vouch, full-body pucker engaged
@lezzbmm
@lezzbmm 2 жыл бұрын
as someone who's winter daily driven an 04 z4 3.0i w the open diff and a mk1 brz (both w blizzak's) ya the diff is important imo
@JPVolvo
@JPVolvo 3 жыл бұрын
In Quebec snow tires have been mandatory in the winter for a while now, people with anything less than a decent winter tires are dangerous on snowy and icy conditions. I have a C4 Corvette in the winter with Michelins studded tires. I out handle any suv or truck in the winter and have more than enough grip. In my opinion, having driven daily FWD, RWD ans AWD cars in the winter, RWD are actually the best, because you have much less understeer than either FWD or AWD.
@bitmen1296
@bitmen1296 3 жыл бұрын
When my wife and I went to get new tires on her Subaru she tried to go with the cheaper tires. I told her that tires are not the thing you want to cheap out on and the sales guy just nodded. She isn’t a car person at all but she noticed the difference on the first turn out of the parking lot. Amazing content as always guys, thank you for your hardwork and effort masking these videos.
@guano1274
@guano1274 3 жыл бұрын
Good thing most people here in Germany still have both, dedicated summer and winter tires. All seasons sound pretty bad since they are always some kind of compromise.
@dougrobinson8602
@dougrobinson8602 3 жыл бұрын
All season tires are really no season tires.
@M9_Prime
@M9_Prime 3 жыл бұрын
I have winter tires on my car, but my work cars all have All Season tires. So when I go from my car to the work car it’s a world of difference. You feel it right away when you hit the gas and the car doesn’t move at all where my personal car had no issue starting from a stop in the parking lot.
@NickVetter
@NickVetter Жыл бұрын
I have some pretty great nokian all seasons, but I also get tires really cheap so I have a pair of winter tires also.
@rob11s
@rob11s 3 жыл бұрын
These winter tire videos that come out every year when it gets colder are so weird to see for those who learned to drive in countries where winter tires are mandatory during the colder months. I mean, 99% of people here put them on not because it is required by law, but because from their very first moments behind the wheel they saw what a difference it makes and it's been a no-brainer ever since. No one takes all-weathers seriously around where I live.
@bobmathew3380
@bobmathew3380 3 жыл бұрын
Too good
@redorange
@redorange 3 жыл бұрын
Lived in Canada for a few years and I used winter tires once October hits. I’ve heard people say the have awd or 4wd so they don’t need winter tires, I tell them we all have all wheel brakes so it’s all equal when braking. The tires aren’t so much to get you going but to get you stopped.
@jyppi
@jyppi 2 жыл бұрын
There are good test videos that show that awd/4wd doesn't suddenly make your summer/all-season tyres more grippier: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6XEqnuHjtZ0ack
@mustclime5311
@mustclime5311 3 жыл бұрын
all season = no season
@HeyhitmeBAM
@HeyhitmeBAM 3 жыл бұрын
The Michelin PS A/S are fine in the summer, but I would not use in snowy winter.
@MajorAddiction
@MajorAddiction 2 жыл бұрын
"Who does this?!" haha. thanks for the hard work guys
@vibingwithvinyl
@vibingwithvinyl 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... this is pretty much what we've been saying for decades. Greetings from Finland.
@incaspathway8595
@incaspathway8595 3 жыл бұрын
Up in Alaska there is an old saying. 4 wheel drive doesn't mean 4 wheel stop lol . People using 4x4s for the most part have no idea what they're doing! May as well have rear wheel drive cars. Great video guys!
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 3 жыл бұрын
We agree. And glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching!
@Wootiify
@Wootiify 2 жыл бұрын
from sweden and it's astounding to me that ppl don't use winter tyres. They are mandatory here from november-when it's no longer winter conditions.
@drew10981
@drew10981 3 жыл бұрын
Right after the new year I moved from San Jose to a suburb about 15 miles outside of Seattle. When we got our 8-10" of snow 2 weeks ago I got a true introduction to winter driving. In November last year I picked up a 2018 SQ5 in part because of the AWD system to deal with the winter weather the PNW can get. It came with Bridgestone All Season's which I thought would be sufficient at least in snow, and boy was I wrong. Everything you said in this video 100% aligned with my own experience driving in snow. Even with quattro, I didn't feel like I had true control over where I was going or when it is that I could reasonably stop. It was an incredibly uncomfortable feeling to have. Since we're through what is typically the coldest part of the season up here I don't feel compelled to replace the tires just yet, but without question by the fall I'll have those winter rated tires on my car because that feeling was so uncomfortable and deeply concerning that I'd rather spend $1000+ replacing tires that look to have maybe 7000 miles on them as of now than to risk another season of "maybe I can control my car, maybe I can't". Great film, guys.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 3 жыл бұрын
Glad this resonated with you. Thanks for watching and we hope you find some tires you like (look into all weather!).
@stephanematis
@stephanematis 3 жыл бұрын
As a Canadian, who grew up learning to drive in Quebec with bikes and cars, I have never underestimated proper winter tyres. My front wheel drive, my all wheel drive and my rear wheel drive cars all ran some form of Nokian. In fact the last major winter roadtrip I took was to Florida from Toronto and naturally back the tyres played a big part. The car ? Subaru BRZ on Nokian Hakkapeliitta R2s, with my all seasons in the trunk. In Georgia, at the welcome center, I swapped over, enjoyed the warm weather and roads in the sun and on the way back, swapped back. Yes, the capability for "taking the tyres to the track" came in handy in an all together different manner. By the time I got within reach of the great lakes, snow, ice and pretty nasty visibility. But with great tyres and a good balance, the car just shrugged it off and got me home with a smile. Buy winter tyres, put them on specific rims, and swap them in as needed. You'll enjoy driving more, will get to corner and stop better. And maybe avoid others who are still delusional about "no season" tyres as they slide through intersections.
@tedadamgreen
@tedadamgreen 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks !!
@Piketom1
@Piketom1 3 жыл бұрын
Something not brought up in this video but worth mentioning about winter tires, is that the rubber compound used in most is designed to still be pliable and sticky in sub freezing or even sub-zero temperatures. I can tell a difference in grip between my all seasons and winter tires on dry pavement when the temperatures are very cold. Many mornings, I do my commute in -10F (-23C) so having the right rubber compound really matters.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true! Thanks for mentioning it and thanks for watching!
@cayman9873
@cayman9873 3 жыл бұрын
I have been driving rear wheel only drive cars since 1975. Its no big deal. I take issue with the statement that your screwed without winter tires.. i live in wisconsin.. have only had 3 front wheel drive cars ever out of 25 cars and have never owned winter tires. So I can agree they are much better. But since 1975 I have driven all season tires on cars and sports cars .. with zero accidents. Zero getting stuck.. and never been late for work ever. My porsche 944 , 280 Z , olds 98 , jetta , audi 80 , F150 2 WHEEL DRIVE , F350 2 WHEEL DRIVE, toronado , 75 firebird , 67 gto , mercury grand marquis , ford E 150 van , 77 monte carlo , 81 jetta , etc have all been driven year round without a single snow tire / winter tire. I also survived no antilock brakes and no traction control and open diffs for decades. So it can and has been done . Our parents and grandparents have been driving around a hundred years and never had the technology your describing as being screwed without..
@dachanist
@dachanist 3 жыл бұрын
frs/brz/gt86 comes standard with a torsen lsd. It rocks with winter tires - Cuts through a Toronto winter no problem.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 3 жыл бұрын
We know and agree. Todd did multiple videos on driving his in the snow. Thanks for watching.
@mardamek3
@mardamek3 3 жыл бұрын
Todd, with all due respect, I have to disagree with your statement, that if you live in an area that doesn’t get a lot of snow, you might be ok with all-seasons. The biggest difference between a winter tire, all-season and summer tires is the compound, not so much the tread.
@Trendyflute
@Trendyflute 3 жыл бұрын
Winter tires are wonderful. Pretty much no point in CA outside of the high mountains, but my few years in Seattle I ran dedicated winter/summer sets and even tho the winters were mostly overkill for Seattle winters they were wonderful on those freezing days and especially the rare snowy days, and totally unbeatable in the rain.
@anthonyb8979
@anthonyb8979 3 жыл бұрын
quote of the season from Paul- "If you don't have winter tires, YOU ARE SCREWED!" LOL!
@kriscote3295
@kriscote3295 3 жыл бұрын
Love the cheap car challenge. Keep up the great work!
@MasticinaAkicta
@MasticinaAkicta 3 жыл бұрын
Is this even a question? Yes depending on the location, temperature and weather conditions winter tires are a very safe choice. In Europe, where I life, some countries REQUIRE them if you want to drive through them! Of course not year round... but when colder months roll in better get those winter tires on! Some even advice that you have snow chains with you. Also if you crash and you were on summer/all weather tires the insurance won't pay! They are THAT tough on it!
@chrisluecke3341
@chrisluecke3341 3 жыл бұрын
That looks like a lot of fun (except the changing tires part) Great video guys!
@ice44567
@ice44567 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, it's Utah! I 100% agree on needing winter tires unless you live in the valley, snow is always weak AF there. As long as all seasons can cut through the snow and touch the ground, they do much better. It's when the snow is packed that they become completely worthless.
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks
@FATmenDRIVEtrucks 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@JohnnyStax
@JohnnyStax 2 жыл бұрын
Love and appreciate your advice. You guys have balls n smarts
@jessicaseyfried7888
@jessicaseyfried7888 3 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this one. Thanks for this!❄️
@DanG90
@DanG90 3 жыл бұрын
Great video guys, now to find my own cheap sports car....
@raviolitrail
@raviolitrail 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I've been driving mr2s all year in WI for years now. Just put on the snow tires when it gets cold.
@raserx63
@raserx63 3 жыл бұрын
+1 ....Always run winter tires. First thing I did on my kids cars when they got their drivers license as well.
@petegalindez9961
@petegalindez9961 3 жыл бұрын
WOW! That Suburban is HUGE next to those cars! Would have been interesting if you guys did the same tests with the all seasons with a bag of cement or something in the trunks of the car as many people do who don’t buy winter tires....You should have pulled the cars into the back of the Suburban to change tires!! Awesome vid. Very helpful. The last few minutes you guys were just completely childish....I’M JEALOUS!!!! Thanks to AutoTempest...but when are they going to release an app???
@autotempest
@autotempest 3 жыл бұрын
Cement in the back will help you gain traction for the driven wheels of a rwd car, but won't do much to help you stop. (More weight means more traction, but it's cancelled out by having more mass to slow down.) As for an app, we are planning to do one eventually, but so far we've wanted to keep focused on making the website as good as possible (for phones and PCs).
@petegalindez9961
@petegalindez9961 3 жыл бұрын
@@autotempest Thanks! That’s why I wanted to see the comparo with the sand/cement bags. Many people use them to increase traction, but was curios how much it would degrade the stopping process with the extra weight and not extra treads on the tires....good stuff!
@dannyferguson9415
@dannyferguson9415 3 жыл бұрын
Team O'Neil rally school on youtube is the info source for driving in the snow.
@cayman9873
@cayman9873 3 жыл бұрын
Huge following distances in snow. And reducing speeds. And try as best you can to never fully stop is a great winter plan.
@Lopes12676
@Lopes12676 3 жыл бұрын
A second set of tires (Blizzaks) for winter in Michigan has been a great investment. Mounted on used set of wheels so I can easily switch out when needed. Less expensive than regular tires and the right tool for the job. Even have them for my daughter's car and it gives me peace of mind to know she is prepared for safe winter driving.
@f1jones544
@f1jones544 3 жыл бұрын
I drove a Cayman S with summer tires in a surprise blizzard for 23 miles a couple years ago. I've never been so scared in my life but I made it.
@77garga
@77garga 3 жыл бұрын
this is epic
@RockstarBruski
@RockstarBruski 3 жыл бұрын
Were any Moose hurt in the making of this fun video? 😄 Seriously though very "cool" video! See what I did there? 😉 Also pro tip! for your next winter shoot bring some small "easy ups" (portable awnings) Some for the cameras and one for your tire changing station and some hot chocolate would be nice! You guys are crazy fun! Thanks for making a fun learning tires video! 👍😎👍
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 3 жыл бұрын
We thought about it... but the wind ended up being so bad that easy-ups would have been large sails! Glad we got through it - thanks for watching!
@RockstarBruski
@RockstarBruski 3 жыл бұрын
@@EverydayDriver ahhh the wind! I guess the only other option would have been a van to shoot from inside! See mini vans are the solution to many things! 🤣 Well anyway thanks for braving the snow storm for our entertainment! 🙂
@dielaughing73
@dielaughing73 3 жыл бұрын
It's so quiet in that Merc even when you're flooring it around those poles!
@mattaffliction
@mattaffliction 3 жыл бұрын
It's so difficult to convince someone to purchase a cheap set of wheels with winter tires for winter driving. I put winter tires on my Fiesta ST every winter and it makes all the difference in the world. Of course, I've finally been able to buy an inexpensive second car, an 03 Jaguar X-type, and i have not put winter tires on that yet. I wanna make sure the x-type is sorted before i throw a bunch of extra money at it, and so far so good. All seasons have been doing ok for my first winter with it but i know it could do much better. Assuming everything goes well, it will have winter tires on it before the end of this year. And yes, i understand that an X-type can potentially be a disaster waiting to happen but all the things that are common failures have been taken care of, either by the previous owners, or myself. But anyway, if you live in an area that can get snow and ice, buy some winter tires. It's worth the investment.
@limpunsing224
@limpunsing224 3 жыл бұрын
Nice content
@ktkl68
@ktkl68 3 жыл бұрын
Had a fun day skiing today. Over 20 inches in 24 hours. On my way down I was keeping my distance with the car in front but I'd noticed a tailgater behind me. I have a land cruiser with Blizzaks.
@papatorr3669
@papatorr3669 3 жыл бұрын
Shoulda boughta TT convertible!
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 3 жыл бұрын
One of our requirements was rear wheel drive so the TT was off the list. Thanks for watching!
@AndyC3.0
@AndyC3.0 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Colorado, winter tires are a game changer.
@josephschlueter4082
@josephschlueter4082 3 жыл бұрын
You guys nailed it at the end. Drive what you love all year. Just put the correct tires on it.
@morgandrives
@morgandrives 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Winters for winter - Summers for summer. (All-weather Nokians on the beater). 👍
@Wayne_de
@Wayne_de 3 жыл бұрын
I have Vredestein Quatrac 5 on my 2014 Miata 6 speed manual club. Very good tires!
@willblake72
@willblake72 3 жыл бұрын
My NC2 Miata with winter tires was the best car I've ever had in the snow. Not even crazy tires either, lust like Pirelli Sottozero and some Michelin Alpins. Nothing crazy soft like Blizzaks since I live in the mid-Atlantic. Better than all my front wheel drive cars by a mile except maybe my old Subaru Loyale with Blizzaks when I was in MT.
@josephflynn8158
@josephflynn8158 3 жыл бұрын
Such an important message in this episode. This should be required watching for anyone driving in the northern regions of the country that get snow.
@EverydayDriver
@EverydayDriver 3 жыл бұрын
Very glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching!
@JustAnotherHo
@JustAnotherHo 3 жыл бұрын
The cost of Winter tires are literally just the cost of changing them. Tires wear out, by having two sets, you just spread that out over two sets of tires. If you change your own tires, really just the cost of the 2nd set of rims is of cause, which imo buy used, and after you sell the car, you sell the rims again, thus it net costs 0.
@siamiam
@siamiam 3 жыл бұрын
ive been driving up here in the interior of alaska where there is often snow on the ground for most of the year , the right winter tires really makes huge difference for any vehicle. every new person who comes up here i tell them that stopping is more important then going i drove miatas in winter for over a decades and most of my winter cars have been rwd as the temps drop the type of winter tire you use does have an effect on them , my hakkapeliittas studs were far superior then my blizzaks at every temp and especially at -40 , after -20f you can feel the difference with the blizzaks while the Hakkas stay the same for the most part
@phattyhales
@phattyhales 3 жыл бұрын
I have Hakkapelittas on my 996. They are amazing in snow! But they completely suck on cold dry days, which is what most of our Utah winter has been like this season...
@siamiam
@siamiam 3 жыл бұрын
@@phattyhales roads are glare ice up here most of the winter , the Hakkas do amazing compared to blizzaks , im just glad it is warm enough to snow again :D
@Jordan-ql8pv
@Jordan-ql8pv 3 жыл бұрын
Having driven on performance all seasons in the winter I can absolutely say that winters are better. I do not think that will come as a surprise to many. That being said unless you live somewhere that gets frequent snow in the winter I wouldnt bother. If driving without winters in the snow stay home if possible. If you must go out, drive as if you are on ice everywhere you go even if you may be holding others up. They may be on snow tires remember so do not let others pressure you into driving beyond the ability of your inferior tires.
@thomasxbl
@thomasxbl 3 жыл бұрын
I find holding up traffic because of unsafe equipment rather selfish.
@Jordan-ql8pv
@Jordan-ql8pv 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasxbl it is. Hence why I said stay home unless absolutely required to go out. If someone needs to go out it's better to be a little more cautious at the cost of speed than to risk an accident. Honestly, if someone is actually planning to use their vehicle in the snow they should just look into winters. Perhaps even a used set.
@pkonneker
@pkonneker 3 жыл бұрын
I can see why you had fun with this one. :)
@sonof69star
@sonof69star 3 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed thanks to the E85 Z4. Hoping for more content on this magnificent looking roadster. .
@FFA704
@FFA704 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the Corvette !?!?!? I drive my 84' C4 in Cadian winter !
@thirdpedalnirvana
@thirdpedalnirvana 3 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a giant parking lot near me where I could go to drift and not get a police officer's attention.
@VanderJam
@VanderJam 3 жыл бұрын
Todd sounded like he was so over this video by the end. Paul still seemed to be having a blast. Very funny.
@WolfrCats
@WolfrCats 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny because, I drive a exotic-car in this game where the season is winter. And, the thought of driving a exotic-car in snow, is something.
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