Charlie had so much class how he presented himself after Jeff asked how he felt that Maria didn’t vote for him and even more so how he had to defend her on social media. The true character comes out when you lose.
@unicornrainbow47605 ай бұрын
Maria's ego was bruised when she realized Charlie was playing her. She thought she was doing better than she was.
@cosmogrammar5 ай бұрын
Love the show but wish the guys had gone into this a little! Why the hell did maria do that??? Was she bitter? Was she being real about the fire? It was so shocking that it's worth diving into a little...
@rjo215 ай бұрын
maria disappointed me man … she was so in her feelings about Charlie
@xacottage5 ай бұрын
Jeff has said in an interview, (paraphrasing) "Don't ask me if you can do something, just do it, otherwise I have to make a ruling when you ask and it's probably no." So he's all in for good television and ascribes to it being easier to ask for forgiveness rather than permission
@joshfisher12995 ай бұрын
Ben has basically said in post exit interview that he thought he didn't have a shot and that he just wanted to be with his buds in FTC. Kenzie supposedly asked Ben to go into fire because apparently public opinion was it was Charlie's to lose.
@that80slady5 ай бұрын
Charlie to Maria: “ We are never getting back together …. Like, ever”
@JNDReacts4 ай бұрын
43:17 See what I think most of these jurors wanted was not just their egos stroked, but as we saw all season, they wanted sole credit. They didn’t want to give credit to anyone else making moves, which Charlie tried to do (and not inaccurately, as he was making the best and the most small moves to get to the end). Voting for Charlie would mean they’d have to admit that they got played. Kenzie figured out that she just had to agree with whatever they already thought, and that made them feel all smart and important.
@luxalle5 ай бұрын
I would LOVE a summer rewatch or Australian Survivor watch from you guys. We totally understand if you want your summer of course, but I think us Survivor sickos would absolutely support some extra content from you guys between seasons. I always miss No Buffs when it’s gone. Cheers for the amazing content this Survivor season, and I’m rooting for the Celtics these playoffs!!!!
@ralphroimallare38455 ай бұрын
From the interviews today and hearing from Charlie, there was some obvious disdain from Charlie after Maria had promised him her vote. Also, Maria is doubling down that she saw the "fire" in Kenzie's eyes during the fire making challenge, but per Charlie, the fire making challenge took so long that he felt they were about to go to matches...so I highly doubt the "fire making" was the main reason she voted Kenzie and she really was a bitter juror to Charlie. So yeah, really disappointing end, even though I agree with Charlie on how he maturely handled the situation afterwards and gave Kenzie her due. Great season overall, post-merge was great. Some amazing characters and a deserving winner, and thanks No Buffs for all the laughs this season! See y'all at Season forty several. (God, I hate the bit so much now that Jeff leaned into it.)
@tara_v5 ай бұрын
I expected something like this from maria. The way she spoke down to ben and Venus, the way she made q and liz rock paper siccors. I hated it. Venus may be unpalatable to some ( not me), but you can't deny that she had some good reads, and her assessment of maria and that farce was spot on.
@SnoWhite24205 ай бұрын
Yep and her comment about being all dressed up for a party and no one coming up to her… that was my first clue.
@jaykay18995 ай бұрын
Maria was just mad that Venus read her for filth and told the truth about the situation
@MrCrayonJuice5 ай бұрын
@@SnoWhite2420 This is when I knew she was the worst because in that episode everyone had talked strategy with her but she didn't feel "the power of the neckless"
@sarahgray7495 ай бұрын
another great season with the Live Tribe and the lads. thank you so much. see y'all in the fall!
@CheefChaos4 ай бұрын
Caught the finale last night, held off on the reunion show, woke up hearing Maria didn't vote Charlie and that is one of the wildest decisions in the games history. Super happy for Kenzie, hands down best season of the 40's.
@tarapiglet5 ай бұрын
Charlie really played a harder game - I would LOVE to see Charlie play again.
@kscmew5 ай бұрын
Hey JD. Just a quick note to say I generally agree with all your points. We laugh at the same stuff and I have enjoyed your comments all season so much that I have to go back and rewatch the episode with your comments in mind. Ironically, on the Mark Your Picks game, I do exactly the opposite of almost every call you make. I got 167th rank this season as a result. Great job, guys. Please come back next season.
@cantremember8175 ай бұрын
Good stuff man. I got 72nd place, I hope even more folks play next season
@joshfisher12995 ай бұрын
Winning fire should only be considered impressive if it is like Gabeler and it is a record/really fast fire, or you put yourself in fire and essentially call your shot.
@yosemite_ham68795 ай бұрын
So since Liz was allowed to interfere via help, then interfering via sabotage should also be allowed then in principal right? Like if Maria snatched the plank away from Liz and threw it off the damn platform or something? Or hell just destroying someones puzzle? Seems like allowing Liz to interfere in any way without repercussion opened doors to both sides of interfering with challenges (help/sabotage)
@mandygarbarski5 ай бұрын
Ya'll are good at podcasting
@tarapiglet5 ай бұрын
Kenzie and Liz convincing Maria about the Charlie vote was my favorite moment this season and it's one of the moments I could see how well Kenzie could play. Liz too. Wish Charlie had won but I'm stoked, Kenzie was my 2nd choice of the final 6. Soda was the player I was most sad to see get voted out.
@JoshGarcia-u9t5 ай бұрын
Kenzie was deserving. The only hang up I have is that the vibe from everyone this season was all about making moves, dictating the game and building a resume. But In the end I felt the jury voted by who they liked more. Granted Charlie played more subtle, but could speak to being apart of moves throughout the game. Also the edit made it feel like Tiff ran the jury with the help of Maria
@cantremember8175 ай бұрын
great season of Survivor and a GREAT SEASON OF NO BUFFS
@JNDReacts4 ай бұрын
33:42 I think the only way him going into fire would’ve made a difference was if he could convince Ben to put him against Kenzie. But that’s with hindsight. He didn’t know she was going to almost crack under the pressure. But no, up against Liz, Maria would’ve just found a different excuse to explain her vote for Kenzie.
@JNDReacts4 ай бұрын
8:52 Not necessarily. I was in a reddit thread where we were discussing this and what we realized is that the planks could have different numbers of holes as long as production only threads the same amount of them. Then for counting, they could put fewer geckos to count on the puzzle pieces at the stations that have more holes, so everyone is counting the same number of things, just divided differently.
@attekumiorava6664 ай бұрын
Yes but if the challenge comes down to the wire then the person who has more holes to count is at a disadvantage, marginal for sure but still could make a difference in the outcome.
@attekumiorava6664 ай бұрын
Oh damn! How did I miss the bottom half of your commet entirely 😂 ...carry on
@jp15isme5 ай бұрын
Mount Rushmore (no particular order) - Jesse, Yam Yam, Frannie, Kenzie or Carolin
@JNDReacts4 ай бұрын
31:01 Well that’s the thing, we only saw an edited version of her. From multiple exit interviews it sounds like Liz was actually pretty well liked by most of the cast. Kenzie basically said Liz got the worst edit of the season. I’m not saying she was liked enough to win. Ben was also really well liked and he got no votes.
@BeLLE565 ай бұрын
Two winners came to mind when it comes to jury voting emotionally: Adam(crying about his superfan dead mother) and Jeremy (fatherhood and another baby on the way). So am not shocked when they appreciated kenzie's hustler tale and awarded her the win despite the very obviously more deserving Charlie. I am pretty sure that's the 'fire' that Maria was referring to.
@mattlavigne19785 ай бұрын
Shea Serrano and Jason Concepcion on Survivor is must see tv
@terileo12034 ай бұрын
Enjoy the Pod. One could say the only thing the producers had for Kenzie winning the game. was helping Ben out at night as they leaned into that 3 times. Q & Maria were both disingenuous with money ? as if going to base it on need, Ben's story and need was far greater than Kensies.
@peacebanks57774 ай бұрын
Thank you
@chuck24694 ай бұрын
Kenzie stroked Maria's ego as she left and at the final 5 with both her and Charlie vulnerable it was without a question Maria was the target. She was targeted at the final vote of the season which since final fire making has been the vote to take out the clear favorite, since she and Charlie played a similar game but at the final 5 the conversation wasn't Charlie / Maria it was full on Maria. Then Charlie got taken to final tribal when she knew that unless she was the winner of challenge it was almost a guaranteed fire maker and instead of admiring his game and managing his threat level, she was bitter that a slightly lesser version of her own game in her eyes could potentially win to vote for him
@AbefromAZ5 ай бұрын
Liz was delusional thinking she’s a threat. Kenzie should’ve been told to get her own plank. If Liz wanted to help count that’s one thing but to go get Kenzies board was bs
@alexandraalbertz14425 ай бұрын
No. What was bs was the fact that she was allowed
@jaykay18995 ай бұрын
I thought it was pretty cool honestly. it factors in a whole new strategic element
@MG-yj6lo4 ай бұрын
Exactly lol. Liz is hella delusional
@abrahamgrigsby93005 ай бұрын
Maria wanted to give a nice hairdresser about to start a family a million dollars instead of a kid from Manchester by the Sea who goes to Harvard. This isn't fucking complicated. People almost always vote to give a million dollars to the person they most want to HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS. Not the person who "played best". All strategy in this game revolves around making yourself the person who people most want to see get a million dollars. If you don't do that, you made strategic mistakes.
@noramcloughlin-docherty35375 ай бұрын
You guys are the very best and sooo funny❤❤❤❤
@ryanzepp88974 ай бұрын
Australia is one of the best television seasons ever
@cantremember8175 ай бұрын
I will lose my fuckin marbles if I see TK on Survivor
@MG-yj6lo4 ай бұрын
1 million question is fair game. That's why these players are there cmon
@youngsiimba54824 ай бұрын
Before I watch this ep.. I hope you guys (JD especially😂) talks about how delusional Liz is when she said she was the biggest threat at final 4. And how annoying all her ailments and blahblah are 🤣🤣🤣 I know JD won't mince his words.
@tatianamaranoedits41845 ай бұрын
Jesse, Carolyn, Dee and Maryanne are my mount rushmore of the new era for me tho
@cantremember8175 ай бұрын
PLEASE PLEASE PLAY THE SURVIVOR VR GAME IN THE OFFSEASON
@MG-yj6lo4 ай бұрын
I didnt like Maria but wouldnt you be bitter if you got voted out by 2 people ganging up on you? I mean I would have too. I woulda voted Charlie though
@cantremember8175 ай бұрын
In terms of new era mount rushmore I got 2 words for ya : JESSE LOPEZ
@FreedomAintFree-ol6fy5 ай бұрын
Buddy in the small screen is so bitter you can feel it
@victoriaw56685 ай бұрын
He’s not wrong
@MG-yj6lo5 ай бұрын
Them helping each other on that challenge was atrocious I'm sorry lol. I'm fine with Maria being bitter and I didn't like her lol
@marleycoldburr5 ай бұрын
So you had a problem with Maria choosing Kenzie as sole survivor but didn’t have a problem with Liz helping Kenzie beat Maria??? Liz helping Kenzie was her down fall because she lost to her in fire. Had Maria won Kenzie would probably be gone and Maria would have most likely took Liz to final 3. Nobody looked at Liz like a threat like she looked at herself.
@jaykay18995 ай бұрын
Maria choosing Kenzie to win over her number one ally through the entire game is a lot different than Liz helping Kenzie in a challenge because she knew Maria was a threat.
@marleycoldburr5 ай бұрын
@@jaykay1899 Maria and Charlie weren’t on the best terms towards the end. She said that she didn’t hold a grudge but internally I think she did. Liz helping Kenzie win made less sense if you ask me 🤷🏾♂️
@MG-yj6lo5 ай бұрын
Liz shoulda been voted way early. She's so weak as a player.
@MG-yj6lo4 ай бұрын
Just finished the EP, man Liz is annoying as helllll haha
@zeanibanks39505 ай бұрын
1. I thought Kenzie and Liz working together to get Kenzie to win was pathetic. Bad look for women. If you’re going to win, win off your own merit. Don’t cheat to beat a strong competitor. ESPECIALLY ANOTHER WOMEN! And the fact Jeff let that slide pissed me off. 2. All the crying this episode was annoying. I literally turned the show off because I was tired of hearing Ben whine. 3. Survivor is getting annoying with all the weaknesses of the contestants being the main focus. Ben talking about his anxiety and crying all the time was ANNOYING! Because everyone expresses their anxiety differently. Everyone on the island is going through it. Just because Ben is crying doesn’t make what he’s going through more important grow up. If you can’t handle it go home! 4. Liz was annoying. The fact she honestly thought she had a chance was a joke. 5. I just didn’t like the final group of 4. Ben slated by. Liz skated by. Kenzie was riding a lot of coat tails. And Charlie only made a couple of moves. But he pretty much hid behind Maria. I miss the survivor where hard work paid off. Not just voting off all the strongest competitors to give yourself a better shot. It’s boring. 6. The last challenge was boring in my opinion. They clearly had to make a less athletic challenge to give everyone a chance. Because lord knows Ben, Kenzie, and Liz sucked at the challenges.
@thinkmirror85075 ай бұрын
OH MY GOODNESS FINALLY A COMMENT I CAN LOVE... Hated every second of that steal by cry baby LIZ! The weakness and crying by the contestants was awful! 💖
@jaykay18995 ай бұрын
I honestly disagree with number 1. Liz knew she was too far behind to win, and she'd rather bring Kenzie to the end than Maria. It was a bold and yet unique move that I respect. It's not about "winning on your own merit" to beat another woman. Screw gender. its about getting to the end with the best chance to win A MILLION DOLLARS for yourself.
@zeanibanks39505 ай бұрын
@@jaykay1899 but in my opinion, Liz was never going to win. And her making a come back from being in last place speaks more volumes about your game play. Then giving up on your own game. To help someone else. And that’s why Kenzie won not Liz. Once again in my opinion.. pathetic