Susan Garrett’s Perch Work Dog Tricks (Pivots and Spins)

Perch work is a fun way to exercise your dog’s mind and body, is a foundation for loose leash walking, and useful for many dog sports.
Timestamps:
00:00 The Foundation For Loose Leash Walking Plus More
00:55 Not Just For Sport Dogs: Increase Fitness and Stop Leash Pulling
02:11 Equipment You Will Need
04:25 The 5 Easy Perch Work Steps
05:00 Step 1: Build Value
09:03 Step 2: Test the Value
10:30 Step 3: Move That Butt
11:12 Step 4: Pivot to a Spin
13:10 Step 5: Name the Move
14:40 For Competition and Obedience Dogs
15:43 DEMO: Final Perch Work Test
16:10 Why It’s Great For Loose Leash Walking
16:45 Perch Work Review
Resources:
Podcast Video 68: 3 Easy Tricks Every Dog Should Know:
• 3 Easy Tricks Every Do...
Podcast Video 59: Why Your Treats Aren’t Working for Your Dog:
• Why Your Treats Aren’t...
Target Stick Training for Dogs Part One:
• Susan Garrett's Target...
Target Stick Training Part Two - Step by Step Plan:
• Susan Garrett's Target...
4MyMerles:
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Podcast Video 69: Clicker Training: Will it Work for Every Dog?
• Clicker Training: Will...
Dog Training with Balance Breaks Demo
• Susan Garrett’s Dog Tr...
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Susan Garrett’s interest in animal behaviour started at the University of Guelph where she earned a Bachelor of Science majoring in Animal Science. Since then she has developed into a preeminent dog trainer and canine sports instructor and competitor. Susan is one of the most successful agility competitors of the last three decades. She has won multiple Gold Medals at National or World Championship events with every dog she has ever owned over the past 30 years.
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[@DogsThat]

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[@teresavanbryce6502]

Would love to see this exercise done with a dog who's never done it before. I had many things offered besides two front feet on the perch and didn't know where to go from one paw on or both paws on and lying down. And when I thought he'd finally passed the value test, as soon as I try to move him a step to the side, he just walks away. The dog in the video obviously knew to move sideways from pressure. It feels like there are some in between steps needed.

[@1986Allyson]

As I’m watching this video my dogs are searching all over for a treat everytime they hear Susan say search and then coming back and looking at me confused. I guess the game works lol

[@michellehoney4221]

I just gave this a try with my 7 mo old GR. I used a big towel and folded it as we moved along, getting it to about a 12 square at the end. Honestly, I don’t think he ever ‘got it’ that he needed to put both his feet on the square/target. He would get both at times, most often 1 or 1.5 paws on it or he’d stop one inch in front of the square. If I stood there and waited, he would stare, maybe bark at me, lay down ending with one paw across the corner of the square. Susan’s dog was trained so she always put her paws on the target. Susan didn’t show us what to do if the dog stopped shirt or only got one paw. I decided to throw another search treat and give him the chance to come back and put both paws but it didn’t help. I also started over, opening the towel and folding it after he successfully got two paws on it. Once I fold it down to the 12” size, it seems he was maybe only lucky in stepping on it when it was bigger. Any suggestions? I wish Susan would do some of these with a dog who hasn’t learned it yet so we could see how she handles that. Thank you!

[@nanettelai1525]

Anyone else considered the funny scene in Friends regarding pivoting wouldn't have happened if they had been educated by Susan the the Dogs That Team :D

[@robinrutherfordcost4748]

Another reason to do both sides is Rodeo Dog! Just barrels and tunnels, so kind of a mini agility, but a lot of the exercises are done with the dog on the right. Great exercise, especially for older dogs and dogs with joint issues as there isn't any jumping or possibility of falling off an obstacle. Hope that helps.

[@oliviatremblay742]

Many thanks!!!

[@asfasdfadf9820]

Wonderful!

[@Nddogtraining]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@allisontraynor2870]

Thanks Susan ❤️

[@lindalarson5680]

Awesome as usual Susan!

[@no-way-can-it-be]

thank you so much

[@francesmcphearson4525]

You are a life saver for real!

[@nickeybrown4649]

Excellent. Appreciate the explanations

[@joannaexley3388]

More great content from Susan Garrett ❤️ thanks so much!

[@allisonlevy616]

Your amazing Susan Thank you !!

[@louisegariepy7697]

I did learn a lot! Thank you.

[@gabrielahonegger8451]

Thank you very much from Switzerland❤

[@sonjalovas]

Enjoying all your video and podcasts!

[@thelma-mimi-dulce-blue]

Thanks so much! I will start practicing this one 😊

[@cathysagmoparks5328]

Love the clicker taped to the spoon!

[@suzannehauser5850]

It makes so much sense when you show us! Thank you. 9 mo BC mix learning so quickly. Can’t wait to start this!!!

[@lindajakub624]

I like to watch you work with your puppies. ❤

[@lifehappens9601]

Thank you! Thank you! THANK YOU!! I have been searching for help on how to do perch, pivot and spin! And you did it so simply to follow!

[@melissarollins2130]

Loved it! I hope it helps with our walking too!

[@franjohnston9492]

Ive looked at a few different ways to teach my flatcoated retriever this.. and I understand your method this makes it much simpler. Thanks from Tasmania Aus

[@sbrito4543]

Awesome. Been trying to work on this. Love these new tips to try!

[@sophiesmith5922]

very good explanation how to test understanding.

[@keenanrochester5181]

I’m glad I found you, you are so informative and a great trainer, I Dig!

[@Lorelei-j0y2U.]

Thank you from Germany! Loved your recent Nuances workshop, the Cook and Chow finally made sense to me 😇

[@jessicajarsak7812]

My girls love the find it game.

[@cqpgrasshopper]

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge going to do this with my buddy Murphy tomorrow :) Perfect rainy day activity

[@evel_things]

Thanks for making this video, it really highlights trouble I've had. Also this really shows the value of the cue Search!

[@catludwick2837]

I commented by accident on a different video regarding pivots and spins. I want to say thank you so very much. This has helped a great deal. I can finally visualize what my Rally O trainer has been saying. Also glad to hear this is will eventually help with trick training too. Thank you so very much.

[@clapisani]

So happy to have discovered you. We've got a new JRT puppy and its's so fun to find all these great things to do. Thanks!!!

[@vinceking7651]

I am going to practice, thank you Susan. I want to tidy up what I do up with my German shepherd.

[@KatePenney]

This is great thank you! I had been taught some pivot and spin things in puppy training class, but now I understand the why and how much better! Thank you for breaking it down into steps so I can build slowly and know how to go back when something isn't working.

[@carolemuenzer5490]

Susan Garrett this is a game changer, having the dog come in close on a target. Thank you for great information always. I’m not competing but I do work my dog to improve us both.

[@danielleshelbourne220]

Thanks so much Susan. You inspired me 23 years ago when I first started dog training and still inspire me today. I have mad respect for you! 🙏

[@kristinkeefe6523]

This is very helpful! I've never done pivot and spin work, so I'm taking careful notes. I think I'm a lumper! Ha! Ha!

[@francesmcphearson4525]

Thank you Susan, I love the way you teach positive training. I am having a hard time getting my dog to put her front feet on the Perch. I'm gonna keep trying.

[@dianaosman7585]

Thank you for another very easy to follow video. Its great how you break it down into steps, I like the whiteboard too and explain what to.do if it needs a tweak. Thank you.

[@Emily-wm3dy]

I love your Chanel as much as l love you! You are not only teach us tricks but most importantly, you teach us the fundamental reasons that align with it. I review your videos when I need to recall or reinforce positive behaviors. This is my first puppy, so much encouraging and hopes after I watch your videos. Thanks!

[@ellavankeulen2619]

Dear ms Garett 🙏❤️thank you so much!! Thanks to your training (Perch and Leash on KZbin ) and listening to your other KZbin videos. After 6 weeks (constant progress) daily training we can take pleasant walks with our now 8 1/2 months old gsd 😘❤️❤️❤️

[@DragonflyFarm]

thank you! I am looking forward to teaching this to both my dogs! I already have hand signals for my deaf GSD. This may be a game changer for her. I just listened to your episode about high drive dogs, which she is, and it helped me to see how I can do some things different to help her feel more secure.

[@Bobbiewhale]

Love your podcasts, I am doing this with my GSD now. And going to try it with my other 4 later in the week. Really want to get leash walking down!

[@annettefry9347]

Love this video. Would also like to see how you used targeting to get dog to lift legs.

[@sharonbroadway4054]

Thank you! Will be working on this😊

[@williamrollandcharles5307]

Great words Sharon Broadway, it will really looks good to always work on new things.

[@gkwale8742]

Thank you so much for all of this interesting and helpful information! I have just started working through these steps with my 3 month old puppy and she is doing so well! I am amazed! And I look forward to seeing how she does with our walks on leash this week as we work through the steps.

[@EpsilonAD]

Great clip thank you Susan and This.

[@DogsThat]

Thank you, we're glad you found it helpful ❤️

[@slvrkind]

Great review for me with my 10 month old IG pup that I haven't done this with!

[@juliemcglade5697]

Great Video Susan! I have completed 3 class courses with my Cairn terrier and we did a few jumps but there was nothing more advanced offered. She's smart & ready to add more agility & tricks. I'm very glad to have found you online & forwarding your videos to friends & family with dogs! Thankyou for the great training!

[@suehuot-singer3251]

Awesome! It serves so many purposes but I love how you have them bring their hind end toward you. I’ve just done the first method where they spin away but your way certainly reinforces the “next to me, heel/place” position.

[@teammine]

The people asked, and Susan delivered! Thank you!

[@williamrollandcharles5307]

Greet word's Kelly mine

[@merynfell7706]

I’m excited to try this with my dog! 🙏😍

[@DogsThat]

Happy training, Mery! We can't wait to hear how do guys do with it 💕

[@Crazee8tz]

I listen to your podcast and watch the videos. Such great info to reinforce existing training and to introduce new training. I watch the videos more than once to reinforce the human doing the training. I'd really love to see how to teach more advanced tricks.

[@EeriWolfChannel]

My dog LOVES target training like this! Plus she's super smart and has a good memory. I kind of forgot about our target stick training for a while and just brought it out again. She still remembers it. 💖 So far she knows how to target things with her nose and front paws. She just got introduced to spinning on the target. Looking forward to teaching her to come at my sides. I'm gonna have to use my target stick for that because it really got her confused. Just gotta figure out what to call those "commands". Since english isn't my native language. So far so good though. I'm so proud of my dog. She really is the smartest dog I've ever seen. Love her to bits. And it's amazing to see her in action, seeing her figure out different games and watching her develop. And what's so amazing about perch and target training is how tired they get. It really does take a lot of energy for them to do these exercises. Which is great. A tired dog is a happy dog. ❤

[@joanneduffy21]

Wonderful training. Thank you. Hind work would be fun to see how you teach your dogs.

[@m.c.8422]

My puppy is 4 month old and I'm feeling so happy I found your video. ❤

[@DogsThat]

We're so glad it's useful! We also have a Puppy Training playlist full of resources for you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jHfCY4eIqbejmpo Remember to subscribe to be notified of all upcoming videos 🐕

[@LuckyRenzellKennel]

nice video po , thanks

[@Rayraynay]

Wow, thank you so much for these training videos! My 1.5 year old papillon has challenged me in so many ways that my collie never has. My vet recommended looking into cooperative care training and it lead me to your videos. I am so excited to try these exercises with her! I am in Ontario and would love to attend a live seminar/event in the future. Thanks for inspiring us !

[@4SweetFeet]

Fantastic and new 2 me. My last 2 dogs were off leash on farms. I can't wait to teach my May pup! I would like to see you do the exercises with a dog less brilliant than a border collie.

[@donnamangino6404]

I have a 2 year old Boston that I have been doing agility training with or 1 + years. Recently she has become disinterested and distracted while training. I want this to be fun for her not stressful. She also has always pulled on a leash. I practice this perch training one time and took her for a walk and was amazed. She only extended the leash one or two times and I said closer and she corrected her behavior. We are going to take a break from agility training and work on some of the foundation stuff to reinforce our relationship then take another go at it. Thank you. Look forward to learning more from your videos

[@Sollazzo08]

I will try with with my 1.5 year old Aussie. Wish me luck!

[@katherinec7599]

OMG thank you so much for the great demo with This! Hopefully with the foundation from Recallers games, my dog will nail it as good as This! did. Tried... he got frustrated while I waited for his hind legs to move. Will keep at it while I wait for more new tricks to learn from you... I like how you taught Mentum (I believe) to cross her front legs. Oh... and also the stretching of hind leg one at a time. Whatever you teach your dogs are soooo coool. I'm going to teach my dog the 'beg' trick to ask for more lol.

[@karengordon9680]

Same problem. My dog will just stand and stare at me and then jump off and get up again. Even walking right round to stand beside him just makes him look up at me. I tried using a target stick to get him to turn but he just twists his head and neck right round. Not sure how to get past this phase of waiting for his back legs to shift.

[@stephaniefritchley9022]

This has been really helpful, thank you. I already have quite a few “tricks” that I do with my border collie,Floss, but wanted to find some new things to broaden the scope a bit. She is 10 years old and really seems to still enjoy learning new stuff and she picks things up very quickly so hopefully not too old to learn some more. The things I find hardest of all is finding new things to teach her and then putting across to her what I want her to do. Sometimes she looks at me as if to say “ well, I can see you are trying to teach me something, but I have no idea what it is” 😂 the fault is clearly with my lack of teaching ability! I have subscribed to your channel and will be studying closely. Love the colours in your room, by the way. Many thanks from France xx

[@svaneprinsessen88]

Hi, amazing video!! could you maybe do a video about teaching the orbit? :)

[@jenner8art]

This is fantastic and I can totally see how it will help me with walking on loose leash. I am a little overwhelmed with all the training games for different skills and following through to really get the behaviors well conditioned.

[@DogsThat]

You can do it! Focus on progress in small steps 💕

[@doggyhowser2855]

I love this channel so much!! Any tips for when my dogs try to dive into a down when targeting? I think I'm confusing them with other games we've played (Pre-Crate Games) where I've expected them to target the mat and go into a down... Thank you

[@ChloeFernagut]

Thank you for the video. Where does the dog bed come from ? Looking great !

[@IAMGiftbearer]

This is great! I need to definitely get my puppy to learn these pivots. He's not old enough yet to go out in public until he's had all his Parvo vaccine boosters, but I want to get him used to staying at my side rather than pulling on the leash in his excitement. He is starting to rush ahead when I take him out in my back yard to go to the bathroom. I have been doing the search game with him in my kitchen but not with a perch yet.

[@DogsThat]

Thank you, this will be awesome foundation for your pup!

[@shewhowalksdog]

We actually have already do this while walking. I use “tighten up” for left side and “this side” for right. I discovered that when I sidestep my dog also sidesteps. I appreciate you reminding everyone to switch sides. I have found my dog need to practice to work both sides or it becomes very difficult for him. I like the way you had This switch sides by rotating. I’m going to introduce that to my pup. I have been asking him to go around me. My dog is 8 months old. I like to break up my loose leash walks with games. We stop & play games like tug, food toss/search, hand targets. Can you share games or behaviors that would be easy to do and make loose leash walking in the neighborhood more fun?

[@jenniphillips3805]

Thanks for perch & pivots. I compete with my italian greyhounds in the show ring where i need them to move slightly ahead of me, not at seam, driving forward (not pulling), and looking straight ahead (not looking at me) . Please do a podcast for trainìng this different work on leash. Thanks heaps, jen

[@jacquiehumphrey3701]

Love your energy Susan, brilliant video. Thank you :-)

[@sofia_fadadosdogs]

I’m going to do this with my girl, Fada! She’s a Kuvasz mix and could use the proprioception skills and fitness gained in these exercises. Plus she already understands paw and nose targets, I hope it makes the process easier =) I love how you broke down the steps to have the dog move da butt, she’s a big girl and tends to step backwards to move the rear legs, but w/ the small lateral steps like you did, it’ll be much clearer for her to understand.

[@DogsThat]

Great, Sofia, let us know how you and Fada progress through this 💕

[@SaschaBuster]

Just tried this on my kelpie boy who's a puller and reactive walker. He did it straight away then was testing me by standing next to the blanket i waited 3 secs and then did search again with lower value treat. It worked he quickly realised if he didn't step on blanket no nom nom treats...i took him outside to play fetch after and he was dropping ball right in front were the blanket would be which is better his usual throw it vaguely at me. 😂 I really hope it helps his walkies, doing your challenge of 3-4times a day for 3mins. Crossing fingers😊

[@doglabdogtraining-gus.8873]

great video Susan , would you show how you work around or with a dog that is hyperfocus on stimuli out on a walk or backyard, do you put together a series of exercises and behaviors together or keep re enacting these at home ?

[@ramonaboston3161]

So appreciate all this training! Slowly working our way through it. Quick question, what kind of "tiles" do you mean to replace the phone book? Thanks!

[@patsywhite5961]

My 10 week old started doing well but now he is all over the place. The two areas most challenging is nipping a lot, and all over the place to eat pine cones/sticks etc when walking. I’ve been working with the leash trying you showed and he will do well intermittently but more distracted.

[@DogsThat]

Hi Patsy! Our channel has so much help for puppies, here's our Puppy Biting playlist: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIjTd5iff7qrirM&pp=gAQBiAQB And another one with Essentials: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIasiWinjJ1oqrc&pp=gAQBiAQB Happy training!

[@azogal53]

We did a little perch work a couple years ago. I look forward to starting over with these 5 simple steps. Thanks for a great tutorial 🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪

[@lisawhitfeld8624]

any tips on getting the doggo's back end to move please?? Just leaves the pivot instead. Another great training video, thanks !!

[@Emma-fe6yt]

We are getting the spins down pretty well! Any time I move my body he wants to front face me, so I think getting the pivots to my side will be a challenge. We are excited to practice!

[@katsim6799]

Emma, have you tried a target stick? I want to try that to get pivot in the heel position to be better.

[@Emma-fe6yt]

@@katsim6799 I did, and the target sticks definitely helped! Also, if you take a treat in your hand (same side as you're heeling on) and get them into a heel, hold that hand on the outside of them and pull it around their head so they have to turn their head a little bit. That swings their butt into your body so it can be in line with you, and you can reward with that treat! I did the same thing with a target stick, but found it easier to steer him with the treat since it was a more immediate reward. When using the target stick, as soon as I would click, he would start to turn to face me and break that perfect heel position.

[@carrieritter1746]

I’d love to see more trick videos like this. I love the demo of the paws crossing from the target video... I’m sure how to shape that.

[@patriciadulaney2547]

Where is the video about paw crossing?

[@debebbersten6632]

Thank you for the video, if I have not done clicker with training so far , is ok to start with this exercise? Also do you have a pod cast on working with a pup who is very vocal ? :0)

[@judymiller323]

Gosh I love your videos, Susan ! I really wish the 4 mymerles toys were not so darned expensive. Do you have a (local... US) source that is more affordable? Many thanks. I think you're genius and I am loving implementing your training strategies with my 5 mo old pup !

[@abkgt]

I have been doing the perch work with my 11-month-old Havanese for 2 days. We have been working with a bathmat and folding it but when I move to a new target, he isn't sure what to do. Is it okay that we stay with the bathmat longer until he is able to transition to a different perch? Love the programs! Susan, you have helped me in so many ways with my first puppy ever.

[@clairedonald943]

This is amazing! I have an 8 month old spanish mastín cross and I've been trying to train her, but have never use a clicker - is it too late to start?

[@emilyhope9337]

Love your videos! So much to learn. I'm wondering how you get your pup's to put their front paws on the perch. My puppy will put one foot on and my 2 year old just lays down and looks at me like huh 😊

[@Kiba_and_Trico]

Teach your dog the “search” cue of throwing a cookie on the floor to chase. This will get him up and moving to reset him, then pay him a higher value for paws on target as she shows would be what I would do

[@meredithnewland3952]

Thank you! I really appreciate these short training videos. I want to help my dog (and he loves training games) but I get overwhelmed. He did great with this but when the blanket was about the size of a perch, he overshot about 30% of the time. Did I make the target too small too soon? Thanks again

[@robinrutherfordcost4748]

We're still at the beginning stages, but have found that Zoso, my 2 yr old Dobe, comes in so much faster in the morning right before breakfast because he's going to get to practice with me. Has nothing to do with his breakfast, just that I've been consistent about practicing at that time. Before starting this perch work practice time, he'd take forever to come in.

[@katsim6799]

He loves to work!

[@aprendebudismo6425]

Susan you're the boss!! Since I've found your videos I'm only using your method to train my puppy. He's loving the training sessions and I'm loving how easy you make it. Thank you!!! One question, do you have a video where you show how to make them go to their beds, like yours does in this video?

[@DogsThat]

Hola! And thank you ❤️ Susan teaches Hot Zone in her "training multiple dogs" video, here's the link for you: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2WvXqWXZcuqmZo

[@aprendebudismo6425]

Thank youuuu!!@@DogsThat I have another question. Im rehearsing this everyday. My dog will soon get it 100% (which im super grateful for!), is there a video where Susan shows how to transition from this to a lose leash walk?

[@DogsThat]

Hi @aprendebudismo6425, Susan has a playlist for loose leash walking to help - kzbin.info/aero/PLphRRSxcMHy1mGMfdVKXq_hiJ27Ej1shW

[@alexandrab.bernal919]

As always I love doing these games but for this one even if my sweet boy understood the coming back he comes and does down/platz every time he comes back 🙊 any advice on how to look for a sit? ☺️ he can sit with no problem 😊 thanks thanks again ❤️

[@JanisBrown-xd1xv]

This is a super student ! 🥳👏🏻 How many training sessions to get our dogs to This’s level ?

[@DogsThat]

Hi Janis, it will vary from dog to dog, let your dog's confidence by the guide for your progress ❤️

[@abkgt]

Do you have a PDF of this training? I have to keep going to the video in the middle of the exercise cuz I can't remember all the steps, haha. By the way, Susan you were right about the 7 day challenge. My puppy was walking better on leash after 5 days of this training. However, we have reactivity to work on so that has not improved greatly. I am working on some other techniques for that. I finally had to see the Vet about medication to calm my Havanese down. It is a temporary fix until we can get him into a training mode for the things that he becomes anxious about.

[@NateSchoemer]

Excellent work! If you’re ever in the California area, I would love to have you be a guest instructor for an episode on my channel. 😁🐶

[@DogsThat]

Hey Nate, I'll keep that in mind, thanks for the invite. Susan

[@7valerieyo]

I found a great perch at Walmart (Fort Worth anyway). 10.5 inch round black RUBBER 9so flexible) 3 qt. dog bowl. 4" high. Durable and non slippery. Only $4.92!

[@hmturner8862]

What do you do after you dog is pivoting into heal position on your perch, do you add the verbal and then phase out the perch? Do I add a hand signal?

[@lisathompson1435]

For the roast beef and tripe, is this something you purchased or did you make it at home and chop it to use for treats?

[@eringarcia9994]

I would be interested in learning more about perch/pivot work. Currently struggling with getting my dog to move her but, when using the target stick and having her target towards her should she just moves her head but not her back feet or she will get off the perk completely to touch the target. Really interested in learning more about target work and targeting different parts of their (the dogs) body. Currently doing the pedicure please program in recallers and it is Amazing! Thanks in advance for more perch/pivot/target videos and any time you have for getting the but to move!

[@lukerichardson4604]

Looked through the comments for this as we are facing the same issue. Did you get past it in the end? What did you do? :)

[@petrons5384]

Hi Susan. I love your training. My 6 year old dog seems more focused on the reward than the actual task I am trying to teach her. How do I correct this?