Suspension SECRETS! A look under “Billy The Kid”’s S-10

[@richardharris492]

INTEGRITY =can't be bought, can't be sold! Thank you Bill sr. For not being a sellout to Anyone or any business that doesn't support our American way of life. Some others need to take notice before they sellout to that ALL MIGHTY$ THANK YOU AGAIN, GOD BLESS

[@brianbrandenburg2561]

Amen to that!!!

[@LucoreAuto]

Thanks for the mention Sir! Always happy to help Billy and you all stay straight and fast!

[@corycose1262]

Do you have a part number on that longer upper ball joint?

[@tnoutlaw73]

My head is about to explode now. I took every single word of this in. Now i see it all coming together. Thank you so much for this lesson.

[@jimspitler6355]

I Could listen to the old man all day. Love this channel, keep up the great work and thanks for your racing knowledge

[@theoldbigmoose]

The ol' man is/was the brains behind the S-10 success.

[@NaughtyCustoms]

I'm located in Ohio, I'm a paraplegic and I am trying to finish my s10. I've been following for a while now and it's been great seeing how Billy has the truck setup. Thanks for that. Answered alot of questions I had with suspension. Thanks! Hope to see yall sometime next year. Eventually I'll have my truck back together.

[@rodneyf.9595]

Don't ever stop brother ! Keep a thrashing 👍

[@gerryrogue7710]

Hi ! Trigg3rhappy Im interested in knowing what type of hand controls you are using in your s-10 for adventure i have never built a drag car but it has been a dream and love of mine all my life and last year was a year for me to go for it Where have you put your nitrous and trans break buttons Hope every thing you do is a sucess and lots wins

[@1982MCI]

Hey man!! How’s your truck coming along? It’s been almost a year since your comment and was curious if your getting close to having it going? I hope and pray that your doing well buddy and can’t wait for ya to be driving it again! Take care and be safe out there!! There’s a bunch of us pulling for ya!!

[@NaughtyCustoms]

I did get my truck going. Only video I have is on my channel. I plan on putting something together later in a few weeks explaining my setup. I drove it to work yesterday for the first time and it's been running amazing.

[@revindevin683]

I have a s10 and I greatly appreciate all the info you give out. Just because you may not be "educated" doesn't mean you're not smart. You're educated from experience and it shows.

[@donavanjones9882]

Ain’t no secret anymore ole man 😂 I’m glad you’s aren’t that crew that hides all their juicy information. Give a man a fish you will feed him for a day , teach a man how to fish and you will feed him for a life time.

[@donavanjones9882]

100 percent man. You can’t buy skill and ya can’t buy time with the vehicle.

[@ronnelson7828]

One thing I noticed that wasn't mentioned is the front sway has been removed.

[@Dboyquicks10]

Billy's nickname should be no lift. That young man has very strong driving skills. However his fabrication judgment is a little less desirable. Please talk to him about those upper A arms dad.

[@joemiguel1887]

@@donavanjones9882 ll

[@derekgraczyk3511]

You are the shit thank you

[@mopower57]

Great video Bill. Enjoyed the tech tips. Dad was a gear head drag racer. Learned from him if you don't have your chassis and suspension setup properly then it's pointless to put a high HP motor in your vehicle. Y'all be safe and god bless!

[@bencarlson5069]

This is probably one of the most informative videos for street racing on KZbin right now. I love how you guys are so open with all of your tricks and techniques and still put a whooping on everyone else keeping their cars a secret! Keep up the great content!

[@hermanmunster5831]

6 months later and Im still watchin this video 👍👍👍👍

[@olie3272]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge Bill !!! I just started on my S-10 build and really have been learning a lot from you !!! I much better understand how to set my truck up now without wasting a bunch of money !!! Thanks and GOD bless y’all!!!

[@jimharrison5376]

Awesome video, , been following/watching your son's for a long time but this is really my speed. I've always enjoyed working on cars/trucks.. crap... It's what I do for a living. I really appreciate what you guys do !! Thanks!!

[@quickdeuce]

Thanks 'ol Dad for this video. You're willingness to share with the World your tricks 'n tips how you've got 'Th3 Kid' s suspension set up is commendable. I'm betting your "How we do it" videos are helping literally hundreds, perhaps THOUSANDS of street and strip hotrod builders. We hope all of them THANK YOU by saying so on your channels. You're doing an outstanding job putting these videos together and YES, you're alot smarter than you're willing to give yourself credit.

[@dylanbullock4465]

I’ve followed you and billy for about 6-7 years now. Found you guys on Instagram back then and I had a sbc s10 then. I can say I’ve learnt so many things from you both. Thank you for making these awesome videos. My pops is passed away and seeing you teaching and entertaining us makes me reminisce on the memories with my pops. Hope to meet you both soon, drove to the 828 cash days at wilkesboro with a buddy to meet y’all but y’all was super busy and we didn’t want to bother.

[@fitzeesfabrications]

Education comes with age and years of experience. You are very well educated. Dont let anybody say other other wise. Enjoying your channel and learn something from all of them. The day I stop learning is the day I give up. Keep up the great work. From one old guy who still loves to learn...

[@quickdeuce]

After seeing how you have the rear set up I can now understand why you've not gone with a back half 4 link. The ol addiage - "If it ain't broke don't fix it" is applicable. I've been bitch'n that you need to back half the truck for a couple years,, NOW I understand. Thanks so much for these tips.

[@rpturbo]

I swear I have been on the other side of the lowering spindle argument. Seeing the truck at full extension, the light bulb went off. Thank you for all you share! I was one asking for this content, and it's very much appreciated. I hope you continue with it, and tire explanation! You and your family are amazing!

[@kenrolltideAlabama]

Thank you, even though I do not street or track race, I loved watching this because it has helped me understand a lot more and about how much goes into all of this. I am sure you have just shown us a small amount of what all goes into producing a quality race car/truck.

[@1966badnova]

The beautiful thing you guys have is the bond you share for the world to experience....Much love between you and Billy. Good job on the truck but mostly good job on the bond you graciously share. Wish you guys all the luck in the world. Your combined hard work is paying off.

[@marcedwards2588]

Thanks ol man. Love your videos it helps so much. I have a 87 starting to do some stuff to. An I could listen to you all night. So wish I lived closer an knew half of what you know. So thanks again for taking the time to talk to use an not make me feel stupid lol. Much love an stay safe!!

[@davel2119]

The look on your face after showing the upper control arm is priceless. I laughed out loud . My dad would give me that same look too many times and it brought back memories. On another note, I have a 2000 s10 ext. that came with lowering spindles and lowering rear springs 😞 and a 383/700r4/3500 w/lock up. I replaced rear with a 8.6 and cal tracs-373 gear. Run 375 nittos and Calvert shocks. It runs 12:50’s all day and gets 19 mpg on highway with a/c. I consider it acceptable for what I’m doing with it but you are absolutely correct about all the things you talked about. I’m 60 yrs old now but back in my bracket racing days I had a 78 Camaro that I set up almost exactly what you described except no sway bar in rear. I won lots of races because it was ultra consistent. Great info for anybody looking to hook pavement hard. Love all the videos you and your son put out and wish your wife a speedy recovery.

[@moosestangls5099]

When bill talks y'all listen -- school is in session. Thanks for it all my 18 year old son is moving in with me an want his s10 a drag truck thank y'all SRC good bless your family

[@bunger6027]

Well thank you Bill it is a great pleasure to hear the passion in your descriptions of what you and Billy have going on with the S10, always look forward to the next tech talk.

[@mpip3365]

You are no longer the Ole Man. All hail the SRC Garage God!!! Thank you Bill. You are a great man for teaching us less knowledgeable race car fans more than a thing or two about this sport. God bless you !

[@caputo4141]

Great video once again. I got a 76 Vega I bracket race and nmca race. Lots of Vega guys run S-10 front suspension parts it’s compatible with all the H-body stuff. I don’t yet cause I had strange do some work on my stock spindles but it was nice to get a look underneath the truck.

[@SpIowa]

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for the insider look and the detailed information. It definitely changed my thoughts on a build

[@lanejohnson7656]

Just re-watched this.. The amount of wisdom the Ol' man layed down is priceless. Thanks so much Ol' man.

[@johnboyman2806]

Hey old man when are you going to get that bad ass Nova back out and bust some heads?

[@thomasknight3975]

Starting on our suspension my son and I. Cannot thank you enough for all that you have shared with us.

[@marshalhughes831]

Appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I have s10 race truck goals, so this type of video is awesome. Saw you guys in WV last week at Southside Dragway. Every car you brought hooked up and went straight down the track. You obviously got this suspension thing figured out. Thanks again.

[@brosselot1]

You guys are doing well and doing it right. I had a 1985 GMC S-15 we did just about what you did at the beginning but in the end it was a full tube chassis truck. And I fully agree with your comment of only one change at a time. When we moved out of the stock frame and suspension we had to log every change. And your comment about it doesn't cost much to make them fast is very correct. Once we moved to the tube chassis the costs got to the point we just couldn't keep up with the costs, so we sold it and I moved to Ohio. But watching you and Billy I'm kinda thinking it maybe time to look at putting another one together to play on this no prep stuff. Wish you guys all the luck and if you ever need a hand just let me know. I live just up the road from you guys.

[@gregsimon9061]

I will listen to your street smarts over book smarts any day. Your an awesome educator.

[@bljsheep612]

Thanks for all the tricks and tips you put out there. Not sure how much this will transfer to a 64 f100 with a solid axle but I’m not looking to have a street/no prep monster either. Keep dropping the Old Man wisdom and shooting these awesome videos for us. I haven’t missed a single one and really love watching you and your family work and race together

[@606garage4]

Very informative. I know a lot has changed on this truck. But it has shown me all my mistakes I made when I had my s10 when I was 18 years old.

[@RyTrapp0]

"...you're going to want as much front travel as you can get..." Me, planning out a Twin I-beam Ford Ranger drag truck - "uh huh, say no more"

[@dapolease5660]

Love these videos and a inside look at things. I’m sure some are gonna say he shouldn’t have done this and showed all the tricks. I applaud him for spreading the knowledge. It’s all in the driver behind the wheel and he knows that. You could put 10 different guys in Billy’s truck and none would go faster than what he’s laid down. You can’t buy talent.

[@jcnpresser]

I don’t know why but I love learning about the chassis/suspension side of racing! Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience with all of us!

[@kinotransam]

I completely understand and agree on your drop spindle theory 💯!!!!! To any out there watching these tech videos, pay attention and listen to this man. This is some valuable knowledge. I'm gonna have to start calling you Professor H. Keep doing what you do good Sir!! #SRCNation

[@dennismoore6180]

don't beat your self up man this channel is by far my favorite you are doing great keep them comeing

[@jamescarr3228]

I see on the ride hight u explain why it’s important to do the front suspension that way is because u gain control under acceleration/ with stock spindles and 1 inch higher upper ball joints where as with drop spindles as u get faster and it begins to transfer more even pulls it front wheels at launching u loose 2 ta 3 inch of stirring con-troll (AT STATIC RIDE HIGHT) !!!!+ EVEN MORE AS IT PULLS UP HIGHER PAST STATIC !!!(where as u guys gain control) is and keep the hammer down !!! I hope I have explained that I get it what u explain on importance this set up???

[@donavanjones9882]

Stock spindle, tall tire , light spring. Got it boss. Whenever I tried to explain this to so called car people they scoff because they want the nice low street look but don’t realise they are reducing the amount of energy that’s gonna get captured and when you are launching a car with 1000 plus horse power this information is crucial.

[@jakeeyeington92189]

Is the 9inch a spool or LSD

[@tuloko16]

Great info. For the G body fellas: this same front setup, using v6 springs. For the rear trz anti roll bar “ no more g body shuffle”, adjustable uppers, boxed lowers and a bit or reinforcement on the control arm mounting points or torque box and the g body will hook on ice. Cage, x brace and boxed frame wil make the landing more pleasant and keep you from ripping the car appart.

[@dustinpoor4536]

That's the best explanation an most useful info I've herd or seen for a popular...real street truck... I appreciate your time ....thank you!

[@drakeolson2539]

Man I love your no BS approach to explaining systems! Keep up the great work!!!!

[@markdesousa7574]

Thank you for your patience & time explaining a detailed video as such. God Bless as always & Gnite. 🤙

[@gregmueller9736]

Great info!! I've had my S-10 for 25yrs and it's been sitting for the last 15yrs. I've doin research as I'm getting ready to get back into it. Appreciate the info and video!! Stay safe!

[@rodneyf.9595]

Thanks bill , great lessons I have been a auto tech for years and you explained it in the way my mentor taught me . This is so very important if you save even one thing for someone trying hard then it's worth it all . Thank you e your time and consideration on this subject ! 👍 Keep a thrashing brother !

[@gregconner4460]

Thanks I have a 77 nova front clip on my 57 ford truck 4 link rear end I was looking to drop spindle on the front glad I watched your video on the front end thanks for the info and your doing a great job on the videos.

[@frediefarmer]

Old school.. I love it. You’ve gained your knowledge in the school of hard knocks.. hats off to you sir

[@medicaided42]

thanks for takin the time to maybe help someone out stay safe will ya

[@richardharris492]

Education DON'T make the man, money don't make the man. You are already way ahead of most, we are blessed to be listening. Thank you

[@waynetate9895]

Thank you for some great information that will keep a lot of people safe and moving forward.

[@patrickhayes1115]

Alot of this crosses over to early Dakota as well thanks for the help and the positive input

[@brianbvachek3219]

This was super awesome to watch! Its not like ill be giving you any kind of competition at all literally ever with a truck like yours. So my dad and i built a stroker for my s10 probably close to 8 years ago now, 9” rear 3:90 gears and for years its just been something to toy around with a few times a year cause its just real squirrely. Hes told me for years we gotta back half it but thats so pricey for just a toy that i dont plan on racing with. Its awesome to see that someone can keep something as wild as your truck stuck to the ground without going and breaking the bank for a back half kit and 18” wide tires and all that crazy shit!! Looks like the caltraks and the shocks should really let me enjoy my truck a hell of a lot more without worrying about loosing traction playing around!!! Thanks for the video! MUCH APPRECIATED!!

[@chaseschoeller521]

These videos mean so much to me. My family is not into racing. I have just recently found a mentor with an s10 but he’s a bracket race guy lol. No prep street is the way I’ve always wanted to do it. The internet is where I get all my information from. Currently deployed but I’m soaking everything up I can like a dry sponge. When I get home it’ll be time to put all your knowledge to good use. Thanks again so much! I’m always excited to watch the next one. Also do not worry, the video may be long but for us its to short. I wish I could see this shit in real life lol. Keep up the fantastic work we’re all rooting for you.

[@JonathanReed1970]

@SRC Garage - Phenomenal video Bill! Dropping nuggets left and right! Suggestion - do you think its possible to have a video on traction compound? Difference in performance between water burnout and PYOP? Different types of TC and what you prefer? I know you and your boys use Stripper Glitter but what are some of the differences between other brands? How about proper way of using it correctly? I would be very curious to learn more and I am not sure if many videos out there discussing it in depth. Thanks for everything you do and your valuable time.

[@KevinWilsonSBC]

Nice video and great points!!!! Leafsprings and Caltracs are certainly a proven combination. Great info on the front end. Guys pay close attention to this video. It is full of gold nuggets of info! This lines up with the video on leafsprings along with other videos on rear pickup points on my channel. You don't have to spend tons of money if you understand the combination of all the pieces working together. Go Fast, Go Straight! Be Safe!

[@bluef2501989]

Wow. Amazing. Learned alot this morning Bill. Thank you very much for your time and wisdom

[@acornridgehomestead5609]

You did a great presentation . Old is always good. Old school racing...

[@CAPTKELLYify]

You are a great father to help your boys like you do. I like your videos, they are clear an informative. Your boys don't know how lucky they are. "Old man" ?.....(wrong)...im thinking "Wise man" (more accurate) from the school of been there, done that.

[@speedyleedymccree6404]

I ready do appreciate the time that you take to do the videos I don’t have a s-10 I have a Mustang but I do love the content that you ,Billy,and Molly bring hands down

[@webbracing2021]

Awesome walk threw thank you for getting me in the right direction on my new truck

[@davidmoore1742]

Your doing an awesome job with both boys and with the channel,, I can't get enough of it, I love the simplicity or nostalgic "ol skool" vibe, just keep doing what your doing

[@chrisjoeli7203]

I think I’ve watched this video 5+ times. Thank you for the great information. Great video!

[@lancekitchen2972]

😁 thanks! I'll be waiting on the next one, we should have to pay you for all these lessons!.....lol

[@joshdrobny93]

Shhhh don't say that

[@DavidRomero-uc1io]

Motor plates not to mention the stress it puts on cylinders under power side motor mount

[@DavidRomero-uc1io]

You guys are great luv the trucks

[@beefwellington7791]

Nice wheels there Sir. Thanks for the lesson. You have no idea how much those of us who's Dads weren't into cars, or have just to damn busy learning for work, to learn about the more intricate details of race car building. Its people like you who are lighting that fire under us to go out and do it. My wife isn't as thankful tho, snow here today and there is a C6, in pieces taking up her spot in the garage ;)

[@austin2466]

Hows that C6 coming?

[@dannycady5706]

I've always been a Ford man that LS in a Ford that I can deal with you ought to call it the half breed. Love you all keep on With the keeping on May the Lord always be with you all🤗💯👌👍

[@danielward8649]

Thank you for all the tips and pointers. Piling parts up to make mine sweet. Thank you very much ole man.

[@waynegilling6048]

thanks for the walk through; I always built Chrysler products and was happy in most respects. Appreciate the honesty and the sound advice for the younger folks. Drag racing is a great mechanical hobby.

[@ryanogden5395]

Thanks for all the helpful knowledge It gives me a good starting point on my suspension on my 85 s10

[@jasonpotter6592]

Great video on how to set up a vehicle, and the misnomer that it takes fancy parts to make them hook! keep them coming!

[@badass84bowtie]

Thank you for sharing the wisdom. Glad to see you guys use the KISS principle as well!!

[@rickscott6239]

I had to stop and remember what KISS meant and I'll share it so others will know. "Keep it simple stupid".

[@joshthomas1370]

Thanks for the tips and you may have a hard time explaining things but you obviously know what you’re talking about and will definitely be helpful thanks again for the walk through. You guys are awesome.

[@jimhuffman1470]

Thanks for explaining the suspension mods buddy, I have followed you all for a couple years now and I never get tired of learning. good luck and Gods speed my friend!!!!!

[@s10-Mike]

I love watching the old man break everything down. Thanks for the videos I learn alot from these

[@pineychristian]

This was such a great video Bill. I remembered when you first posted this. Shows you don't need tube chassis race car just to go fast

[@cincoljay]

I have been following your channel for a very long time now. I have admired what you are and have been able to accomplish. You are a very humble, hard working man of which not many exist today. Hence, why people always want to know what you have done and what part is where, how come this and why not that. They do not desire great knowledge , as they say, from someone as yourself. They want to skirt the learning and mastery process. Knowledge is useless unless you can be the master of its implementation. Exactly why there are soooo many racers mired in mediocrity., and blaming it on not having enough money to do what they think they need to do. It is never the money that will afford the opportunity for high level achievement. It is what is in your heart and soul and your willingness to master all within your capabilities. Even with everything you gave in this presentation as well as the previous ones, they do not have your specific knowledge, experience, nor your boys style and implementation of piloting the vehicle. Which means is is mostly useless to them, unless they take the information and work the same as you to have mastery over it. I see you as a brilliant man. No level of formal education makes you smart. The total mastery of the knowledge you possess and mastery over its implementation afford you and your sons the opportunity to experience your level of success and future successes. That is real GENIUS. Keep up the work you are doing. I wish you all of the success and achievements you can reach. Can't wait to hear you speak again!!

[@dennisthacker9995]

Thanks for the great info! I hope to see you all at Edgewater sometime. Awesome channel

[@johndoe-zb8bm]

Read while taking a SHIT!!!! That's great advice, lol.🔥💯

[@kenflerlage6251]

Thank you for the Straight foward insight and information. Im a 60yr old, old school gearhead and have been doing some sort of racing since i was 14. I am now in the middle of a 2000 s10 street build. They are some things you pointed out that i already knew, and some i didnt . The ones i didnt, i now dont hafta figure out by trial and error. The Best of luck to you and your Family in the racing world. Be safe and keep the rubber side down.

[@ThatTurboDakota]

thanks for taking the time to share. ive got a turbo dakota making around 600 wheel. this year i added a transbrake and suspension in hopes of getting a good 60

[@SS454JF]

Wow i never new how simple the s10 susp. Was . I expected high dollar shit. It runs badass. You guy should be proud of yourselfs. For what it has and compiting with tube cars and trucks. 👍👍 god bless

[@trillrifaxegrindor4411]

you are the real deal,and everything you said was clear,intelligent and easy to understand. thanks for honesty and thanks for not ramming products like an infomercial down everyone's throats. lots of excellent information you did not have to share but you were gracious enough to do.we thank you.

[@oldguysgarage5874]

This answered a lot I had about the rear suspension, definitely appreciate this video a lot , we are getting started on our 92 here in the next week

[@brianhinkemeyer1776]

What you showed us at 16:00 earned you a subscribe. That kind of honesty is hard to find. Looking forward to learning a lot from your channel.

[@kevinshiley9061]

Thanks for your knowledge!! I'm not racing, but you've made a lot of sense and saved people a lot of money and headaches!! You da man, ole man!!! Lol. Best of luck to Billy, Tommy and Molly in their racing efforts!!

[@seanjones2783]

Great video!!! Totally agree on the drop spindles! And how hard it is to get people to understand, I try and explain it like a swing set. Top bar is drive line center point and swings are the suspension curve. Nothing ever works talkin to those guys!!! Hope ya got some solid drop blocks! I’ve cracked some cheep ones, belltechs have lucite a bit thicker wall, good enough for me. Please get some new bushings on that rear at least! Energy suspension has a bad add poly blend. No I don’t want to do them, had to burn mine out. Anyway thanks for all the info from a hard core Dime life guy!👍

[@deblackheart2945]

I work hard, but I think you work harder. Thank you for the content and the inspiration!

[@jrsgarage3244]

Really Appreciate help , 1991 S-10 needs all can get ♥️

[@acblack1032]

I sure wish I had seen this vid 35yrs ago lol brake lines did break my first test run out. Trees did a great job slowing me down.. I really have enjoyed your Teck Talks Dad.. Experience is the best lesson in anything. Learning is sometimes just listening to those that have done it.

[@boostedlsnotch2192]

I don't have an S10, but I still love this video and I love learning new information from a very knowledgeable person. Keep on, keepin on!!

[@wwsk42]

More awesome content thank you for sharing. I too am eagerly awaiting part 2. You are a good teacher and communicator don't knock yourself short. You're helping and educating a lot of people. I do have a question. Not trying to be argumentative you have forgotten more than I will ever know. You were talking about front suspension travel and if I understood right are wanting to make sure you have or keep quite a bit of it. I have seen people chain down their front suspension trying to reduce as much travel as possible so that they would Wheely less at the start. That concept seems to be opposite of what you are trying to achieving. I'm probably completely missing something. If I'm too lost for you to be able to answer I'm not offended.

[@mikestufano4961]

Thank you sir I’m starting my s-10 and without you and billy I was going to ditch it in favor for a light car. After all your help and the graciousness I’m going forward with the s-10 and using your ideas and tips you took the tip to add to the videos I hope more do it’s polish not to with the realities of the s-10 being a lot cheaper than a mustang and you and Billy helping so much to get these hard to hook up light weight trucks hooking up and helping us on how it’s a no brained. It’s rude for me to call you the old man even tho you go by that buy air is like to thank you and Billy and is like to thank you by your name if I may? Respectfully Mike Stufano!!!! Thank you sir!!!

[@johngoodman7160]

Thank you for being very blunt about right and wrong

[@davediamond1742]

Humbly , I appreciate, and sincerly cherish watching all the conent on all the channels . but like your humble attitude and gratefullness . The poor upper control arms.

[@cannonnSAP]

First car (truck) 1992 red s-10 4.3 automatic. Dad had a black matching one but his was a five speed. 4.3 was peppy.

[@bs081502bs]

Damn I wish I could have had lift! Thanks again Bill for passing on your knowledge.

[@TomGreen-gi3tl]

Thank you for so much information. I loved every bit of it. I'd love to get into racing but being a truck driver doesn't leave me much time

[@daspeednutt237]

Thanks for all the great information and your time. Keep them coming we will keep watching

[@krankensteinrocks]

Great Video im just starting a 95 S10 build you answer a lot of questions I had about the Suspension not to mention the money I’m going to save keep up the good work