Svelte 5: New and Improved by Rich Harris

[@SaintPepsiSanCoca]

Without svelte 5 I was unable to build my latest application EATView 2, I was experimenting with component based design system and svelte 4 had an unintentional reactivity limit of something like 5-10 deep. where Svelte 5 had no limit. Well done Rich & Team!

[@nielskersic328]

Great talk despite not being prepared. I’m very excited to finally use Svelte 5 in our production apps. The new docs are a nice addition too! I like the look of the serif font on the home pages, but for the docs it’s too hard to browse for me. But great updates 🎉

[@notnotjake]

Svelte and especially sveltekit is so great! Hope it continues to grow

[@jeffreysmith9837]

Svelte is awesome i just hope to see more component libraries for faster development. Not a huge problem though, and sometimes it is worth writing a little more code to reap svelte's benefits

[@pookiepats]

How many more do you need? There’s only but so many different things bro 😂 Skeleton Daisy Flowbite Creative Tim Shadcn - budi base?! Come on bro you’re just talking.

[@jeffreysmith9837]

@pookiepats I like Mantine in React. Skeleton doesn't have nearly the amount of components it has. Daisy and flowbite are css. Shadcn doesn't have a lot of components.

[@armanrozika]

cmon bro, with tailwind you can build just 90% component you would need in minutes. The only thing where i reach for ui-component library is when i have to render beautiful calendar and table. Other than that, pretty much i build everything with tailwind, and is much faster that way

[@jeffreysmith9837]

@@armanrozika I agree for most of the markup, tailwind is fine and fast. But when it comes to modals, drawers, menu, combobox, toasts, segmented control.... I don't like implementing that stuff.

[@jacklambert7809]

@@jeffreysmith9837 So you don't want more component libraries, you want the existing libraries to add more components...

[@gariklaw]

@rich_harris getting married and "Never Gonna Give You Up" play as his first dance is spot on. Mad props. 24:00

[@esquilo_atomico]

Svelte was my first JS framework. The first time I received money with programming was with Svelte too. It was a competition in my school, I created a sort of 'secret diary' where you could write your thoughts and select some parts to publish anonymously. They gave me R$ 200 (35 american dolars in 10/2024) :) Thats how I got into the industry lol

[@panovitch]

Primeiro dinheiro que ganhei com programação foi usando svelte também kkkkkk massa demais ver outro brasileiro por aqui

[@esquilo_atomico]

@panovitch kdkdkdkdkdkd que foda

[@abyzzwalker]

Eternally greateful for Svelte

[@saiphaneeshk.h.5482]

41:11 Is it similar to the thing present in swift ui? The Binding thingy

[@SaintPepsiSanCoca]

I like the change in font, it's good to have some change every now and then

[@dei8bit]

Honestly, I am very happy every time svelte improves! I am very happy for all that rich has achieved, and I hope this continues to grow to make more devs happy. Honestly... I don't give a shit about employability. From the beginning I always want to code in something that really made me enjoy the experience... the only framework that could do that was svelte... Nothing more to say! Long Life to svelte! & happy codding! :):):) ♥♥

[@maardal]

Sry for the off topic, at first I thought the presenter was that French Pastry Chef, Amaury Guichon, from TikTok 😅 But these changes to Svelte looks cool tho!

[@jasondchambers]

Great stuff. Congratulations

[@JJCUBER]

Maybe this is just me, but I find the new font a bit harder to read when either glancing at it or reading from a distance (i.e. when it is small).

[@saiphaneeshk.h.5482]

Is there anything equivalent of tanstack query? New to it in reacr world but feels like it has lot of benefit in caching and auto api calls to keep the website updated and no need to think about when to revalidate the apis.

[@danielmontilla5915]

will you port modular forms to svelte now that v5 is out?

[@FabianHiller]

I plan to write a signal-based form library with the API of Modular Forms that works with any signal-based framework, including Svelte, but at the moment I can’t find the time to work on it.

[@s1n7ax]

Bruh. I feel like I’m wasting time using react rn

[@aaronskywarder]

If your main objective is to get a job then you're not wasting anything. The job market for React is large and will probably still be for some time.

[@StingSting844]

Yeah better to be unemployed right?

[@Sammi84]

Using Svelte feels like taking a time machine to the future.

[@rasibn]

Nah bro react is fine too. Vue svelte react are all good options.

[@notnotjake]

Only use it because jobs

[@SilvestreVivo]

Svelte 5 is not Vue3. It is much simpler and better than Vue3. Thanks Rich for taking this upgrade in the Svelte life path.

[@Rundik]

Solid.js 5! Now with a new logo!

[@dei8bit]

But with much more love on top

[@DannniScript]

44:10 Svelte magicians throwing spells to each other

[@pookiepats]

Evan = engineer Rich = journalist This is why it took 4 years for Svelte to arrive at Vue’s design 😂

[@ok-alarm]

nice fonts rich!

[@Bryan-hx9vl]

Love Svelte, but the new font for the documentation is a downgrade for me, it just feels slower to read and slightly more ugly, it doesn't add anything of benefit.

[@FabianHiller]

You can change the font for the text on the top right of the website

[@TheGargalon]

I hate how $state handles (or rather doesn't) object reassignment.

[@TheSaganic0]

Imagine building Vue3 Composition API

[@rasibn]

with slightly better syntax and performance

[@danko95bgd]

​@@rasibnWhich means it is useless since you have 0 UI libs for 1% better performance

[@Flo_Motion]

Fkin rick rolled again

[@belkocik]

Isn't just better to use Vue 3? Looks like Svelte.

[@everythingisfine9988]

Na, I work with both. Svelte has greater performance and much better DX. So long as tanstack-query works with them. It's the best way for data management

[@dei8bit]

idk, for me svelte work better, and the sintax is better also

[@SilasDuarte-e9k]

Yes, it's better. Vue has a larger ecosystem and larger job market. It does things better, because there's basically no magic in it, it's using html and normal javascript, its logic is designed to work from the start outside of the components, it sticks to the web fundamentals. It is also progressive, it works with or without compilation. And you have Nuxt ❤️

[@v3ss0n]

Well its dead for me , time to go to HTMX for most cases.

[@HerbieBancock]

I really cannot wait for all the Millennials to get laid off so we can stop wasting time on all this bloated JavaScript horseshit.

[@dei8bit]

wtf, what do you mean ? ._.