SVS Results - Siege t4 Meat Shield with Receipt’s - Evony Kings Return

SVS Results - Siege t4 Meat Shield with Receipt’s - Evony Kings Return - Defense like a JEDI

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@Jedi-Temple 3 ай бұрын

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@natesytacct 2 күн бұрын

Why t4 over t1? I'm not building your exact keep design but a DerrickDefies style t1 "defense" in his parlance, that is flats for mounted, percents for ranged, heavy on those two. I'm a lot smaller than you. Haven't even really started on the ranged, just finished my first hundred million t1, k34 (did get wings in our second svs yay!) One thing I have heard suggested and am considering is to build t1siege to protect my archers from enemy siege. So I'm looking at them side by side, and we're going to have different tech so appreciate input/defense of t4, but here is what I'm seeing: t1 177 attack 84 def 184 hp 2 power 1 point 100 wood 60 stone (160 rss) t4 412 179 413 attack/def/hp 4.9 power 8 points 120 wood 320 stone 120 ore (560 rss) it looks like t4 is basically 2.5x attack 2.1x defense 2.1x health for 3.5x RSS cost 8x point loss, and it's hard to see how my resources don't do more building t1 siege.

@rudiya3866 3 ай бұрын

Hello Jedi. I have noticed that though i think its protection layering. The t4 protects layers below and above to what depth am not sure maybe 4 layers. thats why when t4 are not cleared the t3 t2 t1 are not touched. above t4 i think they protect up to t8 or t9. Similar logic is applied to the t12 t10 protecting the t13( not sure on this). I need to see reports with t16. But a shield i was planning a big one to test that though it may take a while. Thanks for sharing.

@Thranduil606 3 ай бұрын

You have 5m t4s. That’s not a “meat wall”, that’s a slightly large layer. They’re not doing anything for you, positive or negative, right now. If you decide to build 20m or 25m at your size, you’ll understand just how bad they can be. You pretty much just got somewhat fortunate to find a guy who doesn’t really know what he’s doing, to hit you.

@mgentile589 3 ай бұрын

I came here to say this too. I'm only K40, and I've come across K37-38 keeps with in-city siege buffs 300%+ lower than my attacking siege buffs. They had 20-25M T4 siege. I gained 160M-200M points for each hit and only lost 114M for my 3M T11 siege. Rinse and repeat 3-4 times and I've easily cleared my SvS boxes and I'm 138M-344M net positive on points. T4 siege in bulk = no no, unless you're a heavy coiner that needs it to defend against big rallies. But in this case, you're already going to have bulky layers. If the person attacking Jedi was stronger, and Jedi had 20M+ T4 siege, it would be a different story.

@Thranduil606 3 ай бұрын

@@mgentile589 I also just realised he doesn't actually have any siege anyway. His top layers are super skinny, he has a small amount of t11s, and then for some odd reason thicker lower tier layers. Either way, with that amount of siege in his keep, i don't see anyone that knows what they are doing, hitting him with siege. Ever. He just doesn't have enough points on offer. Now if he was going to build 20m t14s, that changes. I would hit him all day every day for the free points.

@st1garne 2 ай бұрын

Just finished BOC with a 12 billion player who had 200 mill sieges, 15 to 25 mill from 11 down, 5 ish of 12,13,14. 3 siegebombs and he was out, we cleared from top down. So i dont believe a ton of Sieges help unless you maybe have flats for siege on your wall.

@kshuburner 3 ай бұрын

7:45 please confirm which buffs tier 11 inherits. I thought tier 10 was highest tier eligible for flat statistics. I thought tier 11 and higher receives boosts from percentage based statistics.

@flushing_queens4827 3 ай бұрын

A gold attack flat on t11 translates to roughly 23% if i recall correctly.

@santhiner 3 ай бұрын

All troops get all buffs. A T1 troop with 500 attack will do better with a flat 500 refine stat. Because it's 100%. But a t14 with 10,000 attack 500 flat is only 5% so you would rather have a 20% refine to get like 2,000. T11 is the tier where it changes. Some t11 stats are still better with flats, some are better with percentages

@kshuburner 3 ай бұрын

@@santhiner that's well explained. thanks.

@santhiner 3 ай бұрын

@@kshuburner also keep in mind that flat point buffs cannot be debuffed. So if your enemy can reduce your percentage buffs then flats may be better for you anyway even for higher level troops

@michealcastillo3455 Ай бұрын

Jedi if you want a good siege defense you start with t11, work around 5-7 million t11 and assistant general that buffs siege you will see a difference

@alaajbeli5123 3 ай бұрын

Those are impressive defensive buffs for a k38 with flat refines on your wall general.. i'm so confused how didbyou get that

@charlymen15 Ай бұрын

With all that blood of ares you must have enough resources to be k40 and over 10B power

@FullMidoJacket 3 ай бұрын

I just wiped 84 million t4 seige when a k40 decided to ghost his top tier seige in SVS. I went positive 400 million in points. T4 troops are 8 points per million. I’m not a whale either. Just a plane Jane k42. I highly recommend not making more than 5 to 6 million

@R3NEGADE_Evony 13 күн бұрын

k42 is a whale

@psyarmy22 3 ай бұрын

On ranged rallies your t10/9 siege are what do the bulk of the killing. I have an incoming solo 4200 attack I took this weekend in svs. I didn't lose a single troop on the defensive side and my t10/9 siege did the bulk of the killing. I can show report if need be

@xNicl4z 2 ай бұрын

The only thing fascinating about this video is seeing you reached vip18

@Jedi-Temple 2 ай бұрын

@@xNicl4z lol

@tw2501 3 ай бұрын

A lot of folks hitting it on the head. Do not build out a fat wall of t4. When I see 30M+ t4 in a keep with low siege buffs, coming at you with a t11 solo. Also bigger thing, power exchange spread ≠ SVS point spread. I’ve seen just this weekend a guy get 2B+ zeroed and attacker lost 600M. SVS point spread was less than 1B. Each troop has a per unit weight in points. There’s not an even difference each tier increase (click Get Scores tab on SVS and scroll down). SVS is the purest definition of “Evony Math”

@flushing_queens4827 3 ай бұрын

5m is a standard layer not a "meat shield" lol. Nobody is debating that t11s hit t4s first but I'm not sure if anyone knows exactly how many turns they take on the t4s. The question is if you had 1m instead of 5m would your power loss have been even less.

@Jedi-Temple 3 ай бұрын

@@flushing_queens4827 good question.

@davewang202 2 ай бұрын

Hi. Just FYI. I think Cnut is pronounced Ka-Noot, not See-Nut.

@ricks3313 Ай бұрын

Defense is a dirty word in this version of Evony. Walls mean nothing. Traps mean even less. Every 6 months or so some body comes up with a new defense strategy that ultimately fails against large multiple "coiner" rallies. The only real defense strategy is to stay bubbled 24/7.

@es5451 3 ай бұрын

Mounted didn't kill more than siege at top level. Ground kills range...that's why it's higher....come on...t4 siege is not worth it...

@Dbl_OG_13 3 ай бұрын

Why not ghost top tier Cavs when you know a range rally is coming? No time?

@Jedi-Temple 3 ай бұрын

@@Dbl_OG_13 sometimes I do. Sometimes they have multiple rallies of different troop types too. And if im reinforce and they see I ghost, they won’t hit.

@rudiya3866 3 ай бұрын

Hmmm am thinking not ghosting just improve mounted HP buffs. A city is defended by multiple troops. look at expedition. The challenges with all troop types are the hardest. Jedi this will be for another debate.

@unclerawn4017 3 ай бұрын

sigh ....gwen-a-veer. king arthur's moistress

@Jedi-Temple 3 ай бұрын

@@unclerawn4017 lol. Moistress? I want one.

@carysdavies4696 3 ай бұрын

This my old server me and CJ still talk daily. CJ said you didn't show your attack on CJ on him 😎🤣

@Jedi-Temple 3 ай бұрын

@@carysdavies4696 let me look for it. To be clear, I was attacking or on defense?

@bryhampton 2 ай бұрын

Kills.....

@henrysmith2765 3 ай бұрын

WTF attacks a 2.8b keep with siege. 🥴 you shouldn’t even be worrying about your siege defense until you are around 8B

@kshuburner 3 ай бұрын

is the siege attack a credit to his defense?? is that the best worst option available?? are you suggesting his enemies are not knowledgeable and not strategizing well??

@henrysmith2765 3 ай бұрын

@@kshuburner. Yes, you are a dumbass hitting a keep this small with siege, unless he has massive siege amounts, which he doesn’t.

@Jedi-Temple 3 ай бұрын

@@kshuburner siege are easy to target. Because you can attack “over” all of my other troops and get results. Soloing any other troop type would be a bad result for the attacker.