While I do agree that you should try to counter swap if you think another support is better, i think it's more important that support isn't the only role doing that. Unless you need anti or sleep dart (or a specific ability), it's also up to tank and dps to counter
@itsjoxius Жыл бұрын
Yea but that's variables out of your control. You can only focus on what's in your control and what your team needs to win.
@Legacy241 Жыл бұрын
Yup, a good tank can greatly assist with backline getting harassed. Best tank to really do it with is dva or Orisa imo. Dva has her defense matrix and Orisa can push and spear a bitch.
@diane6608 Жыл бұрын
in lower ranks at least, everyone relies on support to swap after their needs and not do it themselves
@coolremedy6969 Жыл бұрын
At my rank it's all tanks swapping to counter the other tank. Rein/Orisa/Sig is literally rock/paper/scissors and it's getting old.
@Maverick_1926 Жыл бұрын
Support circlejerk coment
@HabarudoD Жыл бұрын
ML7: COUNTERSWAP TO WIN Also ML7: You can get to GM playing any hero, and playing a hero well, may be a better option than swapping to a theoretical counter-pick but do worse. :^)
@briangreenfield311 Жыл бұрын
He said to get GM BUT he's GM1 so getting to top 500 is smarter to play a good character for the job
@wrangchops Жыл бұрын
They are the best player's in the world. They wait 10 20 mins for a game. They aint playing to win and rank up. They want a good game and that means counter picking, which you see all 5 10 players do.
@bad4746 Жыл бұрын
That’s for climbing once you hit high ranks you NEED to counter swap
@matthewduncan50378 ай бұрын
Both are true
@Maceventur Жыл бұрын
ml7:"super important on this offangles is, u need an escape route plan *meanwhile zen in the back:* deleting the team xD tf is an escape route?!?! BALLS TO THE WALLS!!!!
@ktownpunkjr.1946 Жыл бұрын
I miss playing back in beta and the earlier seasons where you could swap all 6 heroes to counter whoever was their one trick, loved spamming 6 tanks into the widow one tricks and seeing them ragequit lmao
@jonathonmeyer2978 Жыл бұрын
Just play open q
@aGumball Жыл бұрын
as a support player this is common sense. always swap to a support that counters the enemy comp. if you're dying fifty times to a tracer on mercy, GET OFF MERCY. when I first started playing OW I started off playing mercy but over the course of 5 years I've now mastered ALL of the supports that way I can play whatever my team needs
@The1andonlysharpshooter Жыл бұрын
This is true. Start this as early as you can because when I do start off playing another support that isn’t Lucio or Mercy, my team lacks a lot and I think it was due to my fear of exploring sooner. Switching to Lucio and Mercy often saves my games but it does feel really bad when it looks like you’re throwing and you’re really not trying to. Like you I’ve been playing five years but it ended up in me mastering Mercy, being useful as Lucio, and being an utter thrower if playing anyone other than them. Of course I switch off these two when it proves they aren’t helping but just know i’m struggling a lot to keep up with the pace of my team haha. Moira was often a decent pick but over the last year or so I’ve been lacking as her almost as much as the rest. Anyways. Start. Learning. Early!
@groguwiwi Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you play more with Zenyatta 😢
@kaylaisrad Жыл бұрын
i love how everyone is “top 500 challenger” and ml is “peasant”
@ES_DCSAVIOR101 Жыл бұрын
That's how it is for all roles, not just support. After these ult conversion on swap changes have turned the game into an endless game of rock, paper, scissors which really isn't very fun to do every game.
@liyang1436 Жыл бұрын
its good for the game direction overall, no other game allows such a diverse pool of potential hero swaps, and the ult charge conversion really emphasises this dimension of gameplay that no other game has. Other games have their own unique dimension to it, and this is one of overwatch’s dimensions.
@lionobama1397 Жыл бұрын
its not fun swapping heroes sorta like rock papers scissors like you said, but its super fun just dominating that one annoying character with a counterswap
@Zathren Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the Wilhelm scream.
@liammurphy9995 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it also helps to be ML7
@taimursajed7114 Жыл бұрын
Super informative. Thank you
@glow2359 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the Rust sound effect at 9:30 i just got off that game
@ZelBG Жыл бұрын
Hey from your crosshair settings for ana do you use the same setting still and did you use the for kiriko?Update crosshair vid but for kiriko?
@mL7support Жыл бұрын
it's the same one
@marvynjeanbaptiste3206 Жыл бұрын
There’s definitely some games where I had to swap to a better support just to help an under performing dps
@Waffl3B1T Жыл бұрын
Friday morning video right when I wake up? Time to heat up some food and watch haha
@Inastewpopotogo2 ай бұрын
5:40 When on a roll keep it going!
@ZanniD Жыл бұрын
What setting allows you to see the character portrait when choosing who to nano?
@mL7support Жыл бұрын
nano confirmation on in ana's settings
@tasoganedude Жыл бұрын
I'm lovin this counterswap support play.
@TheTimafree Жыл бұрын
mL7 big brain explain strats and things and all I come here for is the goofy sounds effects and "from the shadows... the shadoooowws" 😂love the content and all I want in a video one time is mL to go this one is for the lurking lurkers in chat and snipe someone with a kunai from a flank
@DyingMixTape Жыл бұрын
For you Sir.. Mr.ML7, you just gotta switch to Lifeweaver LOL
@marcuscoleman2239 Жыл бұрын
Blessing my Friday with another video
@yarimendez9456 Жыл бұрын
The support Guru has spoken!! Truth be told!!
@DirtyLobotomite Жыл бұрын
Editing goes hard on this one
@iselagarcia2040 Жыл бұрын
He makes it look so easy 😭 Just played on that first map and had about 11 deaths 😳 Tracer Sombra on me constantly, I changed heroes maybe 4 times. I could not stay alive, I playing INSIDE my team, I played far from my team. Nothing was working 😭
@dr.bandito60 Жыл бұрын
Maybe a big dps gap. You might have been dealing with players of higher rank than your team. It happens.
@handsomesquidward5160 Жыл бұрын
Which hero's did you swap too
@thksai1684 Жыл бұрын
That was the OWL dps duo of NYXL iirc on that first push map
@yacqub Жыл бұрын
3:18 no i didn't see editors cut out the first fight
@lucassuzuki1488 Жыл бұрын
I was like “why do I feel like I watched this before” it’s bc I watched it live on the stream and I forgot about it
@BlueDragon1504 Жыл бұрын
There wasn't even a frame where Tracer was on screen at 2:02 lmfao
@richardandrews9325 Жыл бұрын
More Lucio gameplay would be awesome
@plat4663 Жыл бұрын
Please make a video about Ana using headshots.
@BoardProgression Жыл бұрын
Had a lucio/mercy refuse to go Ana for a hog that was unkillable and said “dps just shoot him”
@mansamusakervil9130 Жыл бұрын
Please do a video about zen, that would be awesome
@evanstewartryker3505 Жыл бұрын
The bird k i l l e d me
@TEACH_OW Жыл бұрын
I feel like tracer doesn’t really counter zen. I feel like it’s more of a skill duel
@ShelloSongz Жыл бұрын
THESE EDITS 😂
@Afkboiii Жыл бұрын
That's what I've been saying for years. This game is all about countering
@AzimPesmeruga Жыл бұрын
10:53 another tilted moment
@silurker4272 Жыл бұрын
3:24 why come you keep the people who lost the gamba in the video
@weenewsboy Жыл бұрын
When you used trans and stayed on zen I knew a blade wipe was coming. I was expecting you to swap to something that could manage vs it more. I thought Lucio to boop speed away but I know he isn't your most comfortable of picks. Too bad you couldn't swap to ana from zen there (I am sure you would have if you could).
@weenewsboy Жыл бұрын
I am a full flex dps who plays literally every hero to varying degrees of success but decently enough. I love your videos when it comes to swapping it has expanded my horizon. Though i still need practice at mid match moira swaps to get back faster it still feels awkward.
@weenewsboy Жыл бұрын
Here is my history that made me a full flex. To start on release of ow I was a zen only player. Then ana released and played a lot of that. Once goats started I got into organized play but the first team I was on had the main support refuse to play Lucio (very toxic player also so very little success and short lived team). So I played lucio just a little. Then the next team I went on I played Zen in goats and we won a tournament with that. The coach moved me up to the higher ranked squad at end of goats just as double shield started and I started playing Lucio again (this is where I started getting better with him by a lot). Also Mercy for Pharah/Mercy comps of course. Then played a bit of brig/zen as double shield evolved nearing the end of the competition season I was in and won again. Sadly team disbanded after and just played whatever I wanted since (mostly more Lucio/Brig). Then OW2 happened and have just grinded out getting good with Kiriko. So now I am pretty good at every support with Moira as my least played and everything else fairly even. If you read all this get a life and thank you.
@glensnoir Жыл бұрын
@@weenewsboy I ain't readin allat
@marvynjeanbaptiste3206 Жыл бұрын
Me sweating the counter swaps just so i can play moira. Or sweating my nuts off on moira because they tried to counter swap me
@krono32 Жыл бұрын
Counterswap unranked to gm plz!
@GAMERUGLYJUJU Жыл бұрын
Skill isn’t important in my rank it’s just what hero you play tbh. I main ramatraa but dva counters me? So I play rein and I counter the dva come how ven though I only got 10m on rein
@light.yagami_ Жыл бұрын
when we gonna see a discord orb nerf tho
@nemebliss Жыл бұрын
For what? Zen is fine
@orangepeelo711 Жыл бұрын
@@nemebliss discord orb is one of the strongest abilities in the game right now and is pretty much impossible to balance around. All you have to do is press e and the tank is basically dead
@nemebliss Жыл бұрын
@OrangePeelo Zen is fine. His high damage is balanced by his inability to stay alive. And yeah, playing JQ for example into Zen is stupid anyway, that's what counter swaps are for. Dive Zen, he's dead. Snipe Zen, he's dead. Just because you can't deal with an ability that helps teams have a chance against unkillabe tanks, doesn't mean it's op. Not being able to hide behind two shields has made a lot of heroes stronger. Heaven forbid a support does more damage (and btw, that means the other team has limited heals, so play smart and you outheal them... people act like he has 10k hp and one shots with every breath he doesn't take)
@light.yagami_ Жыл бұрын
@@nemebliss discord is literally one of the most broken things in the game
@light.yagami_ Жыл бұрын
@@nemebliss you cant be any higher than plat
@littlejimmycratner Жыл бұрын
Ur jokes are as bad as your playing😅. Just joking. Ur the GOAT
@cathal3506 Жыл бұрын
I solo only zen for 2 seasons now I'm masters 2 so don't listen to him. Just get good at 1 hero
@troutking6542 Жыл бұрын
My biggest gripe is that zen discord is too good just nerf the dmg, nerf mercy dmg boost and bring back her movment, nerf kirio tp and suzu, and also remove mei from the game
@marquisross3776 Жыл бұрын
Must be a tank player
@moioomio Жыл бұрын
@@marquisross3776 ikr 😂
@troutking6542 Жыл бұрын
@@marquisross3776 yes, life is pain
@Wout1337 Жыл бұрын
love the gameplay, not a big fan of the editing though.
@aquadiz8069 Жыл бұрын
bob is bobing off
@muchaaaaachos Жыл бұрын
ive been playing Ana since she came out and just barely know how to play every other hero, Ana main is an understatement for me, i am Ana