KSA Kitten Space Agency - Jupiter, Moon LOD and Earth Preview

[@SWDennis]

Got the nice visual stuff from the ~4h stream. More coming soon.

[@CheeseTastingEnthusiast]

oh my god

[@WorkableDirector]

This is a giant middle finger to Take Two and I love it lol.

[@deepskyfrontier]

And a giant thumbs up to the rest of us

[@GimbleOnDew]

Tons of games have solar systems, lets see some giant rockets, thermal re-entry, fuel cross flow, and landing gear that work.

[@12pentaborane]

Not just yet, I am more hopeful though as our introduction to the project is in the gamespace rather than animations of what it might be.

[@alexb-mc4jo]

​@@GimbleOnDew don't forget wings that feel like they're welded on instead of being glued on with Elmers

[@Renard380]

Take Two In The Butt

[@Nasrul260]

I can imagine that once KSA comes out, we now have 3 games that were born out of KSP. SpaceFlight Simulator, Juno: New Origins, Kitten Space Agency.

[@Little908]

Ksa is more of a replacement for ksp2

[@Eng1neer_panda]

Dont forget the game rocket science

[@Ben-x7r]

Didn't SFS start development before KSP?

[@ezegamer13530]

None of those will replace the legendary KSP

[@silmao46]

@@ezegamer13530 You never know

[@clayel1]

i suggested adding in the 33434 scottmanley asteroid, and they actually spent 15 minutes to do it to demonstrate the ease of modding! i even have a hilarious picture of the ceo opening up the texture map i sent of scott munley (with the stretched out face)

[@Little908]

I saw that lol, good job

[@MTG_Music]

they should add 314159 mattparker lol

[@valzzu]

hahaha

[@Christiaan-qj8fi]

That's genuinely the best marketing I've heard for the game. That's incredible!

[@YevhenSavchuk]

I think you really did launch the hype train for this game with your video yesterday!

[@YevhenSavchuk]

I asked Danny2462 if he knows about the game in the comments, and he replied that he heard about it yesterday, I wonder if he watched your video too😁

[@skipercrac]

fr, when this video release i tried looking for other youtubers that made a video on the game but couldnt find any.

[@hex3132]

i love the transparency in the dev process here

[@stardaggerrihannsu2363]

Wireframe transparency! Vote Blue, Vote Harris.

[@2dogplc]

@@stardaggerrihannsu2363 Blud what does this have to do with ksa 💀

[@jlight7346]

​@@2dogplcProbably just a bot or someone who's not right in the head.

[@Wyatt125]

​@@stardaggerrihannsu2363You're right, but not the time or place

[@Nicholas-u9h]

@@2dogplc "blud" you need to go back

[@hatman44]

no way they made KSP3 before KSP2

[@SteelRider]

💀

[@blazernitrox6329]

This is genuinely impressive. Also find it really funny how in the year of our lord 2024 Rocket's talking about a 1.5M poly terrain mesh being a lot - and he's right, but don't tell AAA that.

[@TheAmazingCowpig]

Well, it used to be a lot. But poly limits considered "reasonable" have gone up with hardware (though you probably still don't want to push it if you can). Also at least we have LODs. And, it's the terrain- the terrain can have a good chunk of poly budget allocated to it, it's fine.

[@d3vitron779]

YandereDev toothbrush.

[@Crazylom]

@@TheAmazingCowpig Yeah, terrain - especially for the kind of game which half-focuses on it - needs plenty of polygons for the quality. LODs and smart mesh designing are the way to go

[@marinculic976]

i hope they make great kitten models in space suits and give it some cat puns and such

[@AquaticCog]

Precisely. I feel like a bit of Kerbal-like spirit can only serve to improve a game

[@ReddwarfIV]

I used to draw Space Cats when I was in school. Just cats in spacesuits flying spaceships.

[@avreve]

@@AquaticCogand name the planets and the system something goofy like,ksp. if they dont, no big desl, im sure everyone will download a mod that makes the kittens kerbals and the names like ksp’s

[@AquaticCog]

@avreve Whew, don't even say that, you're making me too hopeful

[@avreve]

@@AquaticCog OH MY GOD I JUST REALIZED BITH KITTEN AND KERBAL STARTS WITH K SO THEY CAN NAME STUFF WITH K INSTEAD OF C LIKE KSP DOES!!!!!

[@DerpieDrago]

I just realized the hilarious situation where someone will make a mod to reintroduce the Kerbol system probably with Kerbals if they also make the Kittens changeable with mods

[@Mr.Bonuts]

The kittens are gonna be alot more full-out characters with emotions and stuff (At least thats what someone said) so I think people are gonna get attached to them and so I don't think we need kerbals back, I will miss the planets tho.

[@DerpieDrago]

@@Mr.Bonuts but we have to turn Jeb into a pile of smoke and dust

[@Crazylom]

@@DerpieDrago Finally, interstellar combad

[@williamyang7611]

I'm so relieved to see the developer actually going into deep technical details within the project. I think the best we got from KSP 2 was their dev blogs and block diagrams (I think we all know how well that worked out). They've shown rendering, orbits, terrain streaming, and a solar system. Not only that but they talked about focusing on performance which was only vaguely promised in KSP 2 but completely failed to deliver on. Using multithreaded jolt physics along with their own custom C# based BRUTAL engine gives me alot of hope that this game will have a much higher ceiling over KSP 2 and KSP 1. Larger spacecraft, very large colony bases, deep first class support for multiplayer, hiring reputable modders like Blackrack (amazing volumetric clouds and scatterer). I'll definitely keep my hopes tempered (not repeating KSP 2 again), but I'm very impressed with what they have so far (a solid foundation). A CEO (Dean Hall) that actually seems to understand how the game is built from the ground up and cares about the technical details.

[@mikatuomaala1186]

In my eyes these devs are sharing the 'we care about our games and gamers in the long term' top 3 with shared top 1 postiton between CDProject red, Larian and these guys.

[@MichaelCoombes776]

This is what I wanted the KSP2 "Dev Diaries" to be. Detailed, so maybe a bit "nerdy" for some but infinitely better than the fluff we actually got.

[@emeraldislands]

fairly excited for this

[@erikkrutoi]

yep

[@lukarg2971]

How can we support the project financially? I would love to do it

[@kirowilber9121]

You could buy their previous games! They would certainly get the money to assist in the development of the game ^^

[@SWDennis]

No direct way right now, I think. But you could buy their (RocketWerkz) previously released games, like Stationeers and Icarus.

[@charimuvilla8693]

@@kirowilber9121 Do they even get money from the ksp series? I dont' think they do.

[@therealjoeyp]

@@charimuvilla8693 harvestr got cash from the ksp buyout from t2i im p sure

[@YevhenSavchuk]

@@charimuvilla8693 not previous ksp games, but their (RocketWerkz) previous games

[@Waffle5864]

Wow, this is gonna be so good. I just hope that as a community we can provide effective suggestions (in discord) and maybe funding support, like a patreon.

[@FloppaSPACEAGENCY]

THE HOLY KSP3

[@LegoMan-mu3ln]

Wdym 3? There is no KSP2, it doesn't exist.

[@lorenzzorzt]

Nah man only God is the Holy of Holies but KSA is great game

[@totallynottitan126]

He says KSP 3 because this version is so good we don’t even need a 2nd installment!

[@Napoleon_e2]

@@LegoMan-mu3ln exactly, it's so good, it's 2 steps ahead.

[@tetonis2452]

Valve could never

[@notaulgoodman9732]

These are like the best teasers. Raw truth, and it is a promising one.

[@Cyynapse]

Dean should make it his mission to hire every single available KSP 2 dev just to spite T2

[@MooCalf]

so glad someone got this, the audio wasnt working for me last night :(

[@slickstretch6391]

That background music took me right back to the 360. Hearing this music while spending many hours scanning planets for resources and reading codex entries in Mass Effect 2... what a vivid memory this music brought up. I think that might be my favorite game on the console.

[@kev4ev]

9:51 the legend says he's still away but will be back in a moment, umm...

[@maxthelast]

Underrated comment

[@augustday9483]

I'm hyped for this game. I hope the project keeps going and becomes something big!

[@autumnwinter3639]

the surfaces look nice with some flat areas for base building i hope it stays that way

[@SidusBrist]

They're basically making Space Engine with rockets.

[@joshuagleeson4776]

If they can implement a photorealistic rendering option like space engine this will be a perfect game.

[@Little908]

No, they just have been testing with capabilities of the engine (parts later on). The game will dramatically improve trust me.

[@Mr.Bonuts]

Do you know what KSP is? If you do then they are making a succesor to that.

[@mango_tgo8361]

they turned io into pol

[@Waffle5864]

It's because they are using a scaled down version of rss I think

[@CalvinMaclure]

My goodness... I... I have no words. Just amazing! Simply amazing!

[@SameBasicRiff]

on top of the already perfection, mass effect music was a great touch

[@hellfiresiayan]

i am still watching, but i had to comment that the mass effect music hit me so hard. nostalgia!!

[@dakraken9242]

Did anyone hear him mention about building bases at around 7:30?

[@witext]

I look forward to open development so that the community can come with suggestions & critique

[@TheKianykin]

I like how Dean said the meeting can wait i have stuff to show

[@steph4050]

Awesome work guys. We do see here that you are deeply invested in that project. I can guarantee you that if that project reach the end line, 100% of the KSP crowd will do the switch. Play your cards right, you guys are sitting on a gold mine here.

[@boumerguy7042]

Mass Effect 1, 2, 3 OST is perfect

[@effervescentrelief]

WE NEED SPACE KITTENS!!!

[@Erik3090]

Cats will conquer the universe! 😻 Or they already have... 🙀

[@OctagonalSquare]

I love seeing that you’re spending this much time on purely mesh optimization. So many modern games just don’t give a crap.

[@williamyang7611]

Mass Effect music playing is a nice touch

[@npphil]

I did not know that I needed to see this. Very much appreciated.

[@stevedenton7986]

This is just AWSOMEW! I can't wait for this one. Please keep us posted!

[@Froslev45]

Please make this come true, I literally just searched today about games like this, and then this pops up.

[@Space_gravy1]

This is the biggest thing I've seen in csnt Wait, but hopefully, I get a PC before the game is out. Keep this up. i plan on getting sfs two ksp one, and this

[@Clampotron]

Very exciting! I wonder if they'll stick with our real solar system or if they're just using it for testing purposes and plan on making a fictional one later.

[@redknight326]

the way I see it, the official game will probably have Sol, and since it's expected to release with mod support other systems will be added by players

[@Jmcgee1125]

They're planning to make their own, but they're using the real solar system now since it makes some stuff easier (testing physics works, not having to worry about design, etc.)

[@flyntwick]

​@@Jmcgee1125 To add to this, the current plan is a 2 to 2.5 scale of KSP's system.

[@_pan-tastic_28]

@@redknight326 Cant wait for modded KSP system in KSA

[@TheAugmentedMan1]

​@_pan-tastic_28 I didn't even think of that. At least, people who liked the OG KSP planets get a chance at depemtion

[@zenothksp]

I'm getting this the day it releases, even if it is still years away. this is awesome

[@monitorlizardkid8253]

I said this in a comment on another video and I'm saying it here: I hope we get "near future" tech, like metallic hydrogen engines, torch drives, and a prototype alcubierre drive at the end of the tech tree.

[@K1L0W0G]

I heard something about using points to render the planets. I wonder if this could be combined with NVIDIA's new technology, the 3D Gaussian Ray Tracing. So, we would definitely have a KSP killer.

[@muffinario]

mass effect soundtrack hits hard bro😭

[@MinerBat]

interesting. hopefully this becomes sort of KSP 3 (unofficially, because they dont have the IP unfortunately, i wish that the current owner of it would just give it to them if they dont intend to do anything with it)

[@tempejkl]

Take Two Interactive (who also owns GTA) own it.

[@MinerBat]

@tempejkl i forgot the name but yes that one. Unfortunately i wouldnt trust the company that cancelled KSP 2 when it was finally heading in the right direction to sell the KSP IP for any reasonable amount of money even though they wont do anything with it anymore... Also KSP 3 before GTA 6 haha

[@abuBrachiosaurus]

They still make money off KSP 1 sales

[@mininlmewa]

at first i had some reservations, especially seeing at the beginning of the video, some of my favorite things from ksp are the unique planets, fun writing you can find in the science reports or planet descriptions, and the feeling of controlling your vessel. i really hope those things are kept, there was a small mention of getting artists so i think custom planets will be added but i still wont really hold my breath. getting burned by ksp2 has made me much more discerning for waiting until promises are kept before trusting they will be.

[@captainyossarian388]

So hopeful for this.

[@mirochlebovec6586]

The thing I am most curious about is the wheter they will keep the KSP humor. Like you know your rocket building instructor bein Wernher von Kittenman and funny component descriptions.😂

[@Screeno1993]

I would expect it would be wernher von meown xd

[@notsofrenchy]

I saw this live, he just kept getting discord pings and we could hear them

[@HelloDonkey9]

Can’t wait to see how many lives these kittens have in my hands….. so many inhumane ways.

[@Archimagus]

This is looking really great. I love that you guys are doing this. I do really hate the name, but hopefully the "working title" doesn't stick. I'll still play it of course, but it feels hard to get taken seriously when you try to convince your friend to play "Kitten Space Agency"

[@arzen9835]

+rep for ME music

[@shul5684]

How the hell am I this excited for this game .. when is yet is SOOO EARLY into it.

[@Space_Mann21]

Just wondering, will there be interstellar travel in KSA? Whether or not there will be, good job so far guys keep cooking 🔥

[@cook1ezz]

Given how the engine is designed, if it isn't in the vanilla game it won't be hard for modders to add it in. AFAIK from what the devs say in the Discord they are trying to focus on creating a solid vanilla experience that matches and improves on what is already present in KSP 1 as a foundation.

[@lunavil]

So from a technical point I need clarification, This is using Geo clipmapping terrain on 6 terrains "basically" and you do all the normal cool stuff with shifting Lods and seam correction. This intrigued me cause I was also looking into terrain generation, and I read the, GpuGem on Terrain Rendering Using GPU-Based Geometry Clipmaps. The team talked about having everything multi threaded but I assume this also sits on the gpu. The biggest confusion is the word 'billboard mesh', would this mean you are generating imposter billboard meshes on the fly, cause I only see the clipmapping or maybe billboards is clipmapping? If one of you amazing devs could point this out that would be amazing.

[@SWDennis]

Best you go ask this in the discord server.

[@lunavil]

@@SWDennis will do.

[@VorynDagoth]

This is the ksp2 we deserved

[@Lizardcorp-wq4ts]

1:03 that discord ping threw me tf off

[@Jan-cm2ye]

To me that looks like KSA will be built on a rock solid foundation! :)

[@lvwpy]

I hope they'll add IVA!

[@DrBlort]

I'm excited about this! I just realized, though, that even that having the real solar system is cool, I will miss the fantasy planets of KSP :(

[@Dr.EMMI-Martínez]

Take that take two

[@KK-kc1yh]

I hope that where will be a mod replacing the cats with kerbals.

[@GoldballIndustries]

Human Space Program's looking great so far

[@idjles]

Has anyone told Matt Lowne about this? It works be a pity if he didn’t know!

[@unflexian]

ok so my last name is kerman in real life, can i just give them the copyright and allow them to have kerbals in this game too?

[@TheAugmentedMan1]

Helll, I would sign a petition for that

[@CptTiki]

Imagine this is an addon to stationeers.. not only do we get to build ships and fly them - but you have to mine the resources to get there :D

[@pilotnl]

You guys rock like an asteroid!

[@cihlacezet231]

i would like to see some opportuinity to play with somthing like KOS (kerbal OS). It would be realy nice to have that option for those who like programming in games. Python would be great. In stationeers we have MIPS which is great but for this game to complicated tho : How can i support? I already bought stationeers (twice) and i want to pay with gold for this game!

[@flyntwick]

Rocket briefly touched upon this in Discord yesterday, saying that he agrees on KOS's significance and expressing interest in bringing something like it to KSA, but that adding a language within the engine isn't a priority at the moment. The base game is described as basically a truss with a mod-first design, so features like this may very well be possible with community contribution if the dev team never makes it to it.

[@stop_tryharding]

I think Lua would be a more natural choice.

[@cihlacezet231]

@@flyntwick I understand that it’s still in the early stages and that something like KOS isn’t essential at this point, but it’s awesome that you’re already discussing it at this foundational level. What I’ve seen so far blew me away, no other words needed. I’m convinced that if this is fully realized and if rocketeeer approaches it with the same dedication as with Stationeers, it’s going to be incredible. I think I can speak for all KSP enthusiasts when I say we can’t wait. I believe there would be plenty of people interested in contributing, which could make development much easier. Maybe even something like a Kickstarter?

[@cihlacezet231]

@@stop_tryharding very true. I was just imaging creating some big stuff with MIPS and with only 128 lines and 4kB memory :D

[@fatemonkey]

Absolutely not Python. Keep it out of here. Almost any other language would be infinitely more bearable. That goes for JavaScript too.

[@LenticularKittens]

a real solar system is going to be so cool to have

[@WhyIsJupiterInTheFridge]

I love the height of the mountains, please don’t fix it.

[@eugeneponomarov7429]

This is some innovative shit!!! Where they can pick up my money?

[@TheKianykin]

Stationers is another game of theirs

[@TroyRubert]

I'm so hyped.

[@KingPOF]

Finally, KSP 2!

[@Napoleon_e2]

how dare you call it KSP2, it's way too good to be a single increment above the first game, this is KSP3

[@KingPOF]

@@Napoleon_e2 We never had a KSP 2, it doesn't exist , until now!

[@Napoleon_e2]

@@KingPOF nah KSP6

[@ISmellMopWho]

Please give airplanes a purpose with airliner/air cargo missions to different airports! I absolutely love building and flying planes in KSP and Juno but there are not many missions to fly them for. I’d love to see them more implemented in this game!

[@Sped55]

i wonder where they got the heightmap stuff for all them moons

[@ezegamer13530]

A KSP Killer isn't anything if the player can't build rockets.

[@bestsynth4102]

I am excited (to never be able to run this and explode my laptop again)!!!! HYPE HYPE HYPE

[@adriansmith6928]

Great to see you cant keep a good team down. And fortunately kittens love the taste of Kerbal.

[@halliwedge]

Reminds me of Space Engine a little, very impressive.

[@beaverbuoy3011]

I am UNBELIEVBAELYKYBNLY EXCIRTED

[@JordanCoopersNook]

Shut up and take my money except don't shut up, please keep releasing dev streams like this, and still take my money.

[@plazmaguy13yago9]

any progress slaying the kraken?

[@YevhenSavchuk]

Hopefully he will not be born in the first place.

[@eugeneponomarov7429]

It hasn’t been born yet

[@flyntwick]

​@@eugeneponomarov7429 And may never be. HarvestR said yesterday that he's pretty much nailed down craft body mechanics in his experience with Kithack.

[@12pentaborane]

If I'm not mistaken the Kraken was the result of trying to do all the simulation in one scene, resulting in floating point errors. If they are using multiple scenes they might be able to circumvent that.

[@tacklemcclean]

A thousand fps? They can fit 50 KSP2's in that easily!

[@5Andysalive]

i was completely unaware that He is the DayZ guy. In the faq he mentions the mod but not the extremely bumpy ride to DayZ Standalone which he started at least. I hope procedures have improved.

[@notaulgoodman9732]

They're actually called by their names? That's crazy lmao.

[@Kennanjk]

Bro when bd armory gets added in ten years this game is going to be literally insane

[@Wyatt125]

Will the engine allow true colonies, like a massive self sustaining growing colony to be modded in? Like planet spanning?

[@Atlessa]

Instead of Snaks they probably have cans of Tuna? :D (it was a mod, but some of the animations and IVA textures mentioned Snaks)

[@uycficf8693]

Cool, but why polar coordinates instead of an icosahedron? A subdivided icosahedron is the best sphere.

[@Damien.D]

that's the kind engine KSP2 should have had.

[@PlayerGP]

Maybe I want too much and run too far ahead, but still... I hope you will add primitive NPC intelligence, so that bots not under player control could perform a basic set of commands like: stop; follow me; go there; enter/exit the ship. I also hope that you will not forget about the developments of Squad in terms of building/repairing spaceships outside the Vertical Assembly Shop. Well, it would be nice to be able to freely move inside the spaceship. I think this feature would add atmosphere to the gameplay)

[@booth403]

you get a like, because Mass Effect them

[@thestrangecrisismalachi4121]

Will KSA have Scieance equipment, Colonies, Interstellar, and Exploration like KSP 2 did?

[@RunaUwO]

if it has co-op id buy. ksp had a chance to actually hit a good number but obv they shutdown before the roadmap got half way

[@cadmanfox]

I'm excited, but there is no actual gameplay yet so.. Unless there is stuff I haven't seen yet, it's probably still very (very) early in development.

[@eypandabear7483]

Completely agree but what they’re showing is exactly the kind of ground up physics rewrite that KSP2 didn’t do.

[@BB_Jo-e3z]

io looks very much like Pol with exaggerated terrain

[@vuvle]

Hype 🚂!!!!! Lets goooo!

[@George-bc7ej]

I’m a little confused by the lod system. From the wireframe view, it looked like they are using a uv sphere rather than some sphere with more uniform vertex density, which seem suboptimal. I guess it lets them use a sort of spherical clipmap, but I’m not sure.

[@GiusePooP]

i hope you could make new craters on the surface of planets and moons when impacting at high speeds