SWEATY DUEL OF FATES | Tomb Kings vs Warriors of Chaos - Total War Warhammer 3

[@kononamae5124]

Grand hierophant Cringetep vs the mighty Neverchosen

[@kononamae5124]

@Jordan Winders you dare insult the chad Settra? Lord of the Earth, Monarch of the Sky, Ruler of the Four Horizons, Mighty Lion of the Infinite Desert, Great Hawk of the Heavens, Majestic Emperor of the Shifting Sands, Eternal Sovereign ...

[@firsttimehuh1266]

That’s DJ Kringetep to you

[@shanedog007]

@@firsttimehuh1266 Uhh its Archeon the EverChad

[@redsalamander9999]

Archaon is well and truly living up to his title of Everchosen these days.

[@Dead_Heir]

Hey Turin, I was just watching this and paused when I realized I've never commented on one of these videos. So for what it's worth, I really appreciate the time taken to give good commentary on so many battles this consistently. I eat this domination content up and you're always ringing the dinner bell homie.

[@matthewebert3955]

Facts!

[@TheRealElThang]

After struggling for so long in WH2, it's still wild to me hearing TK be called a top tier faction

[@KachiAT]

in dom they are. I kinda think they still have same problems(even if to lesser degree) in LB.

[@bigmcjones230]

@@KachiAT hopefully they don't get blasted into the pits again, would love to see them remain viable, just not oppressive

[@mmorkinism]

Hellstriders camping backline single handedly prevented TK from getting any quality reinforcements.

[@maxwhite4177]

I don't own WH3 yet and hadn't internalized quite how bullshit hellstriders are until I saw them charge right into the Eyes and still take half HP off them.

[@Tsumetaiyoru]

Slanesh is pleased with this level of sweat!

[@deohere7647]

Tomb king skellys have souls. They're all individual dudes. Vampire skellys are reanimated constructs powered by the will of their necromancer lord. Hence why the capture weight is different. Lore justification but justification none the less ❤

[@Marcusjnmc]

it's not an oversight , tomb kings skeletons & vampire counts skeletons are not the same , Tomb Kings Skeletons contain the souls of warriors sworn to hold territory that have been fighting for over a millenia , VC Skeletons are temporary magical construct slaves that do what they're told & who were probably raised last tuesday

[@WhiteBuffaloWakanGli]

Games Workshop is releasing the old Archaon on horse model this Saturday for a limited time. They’re also doing a chaos lord from each faction, and a chaos wizard. I’m definitely snagging Archaon to paint up real nice, and probably the Nurgle lord for my AOS army.

[@N0ahface]

The worst part of hellstriders being super OP is that we never get to see two of the coolest factions in the game. Aside from nerfing hellstriders, I think it might be a good addition to have a cap of two marked units per god. Kinda goes with the theme of chaos undivided and you might finally see chaos players bring something other than four hellstriders.

[@TheSakurambou]

A cost increase on the skeleton units for TK would probably be a good way to balance them. Would reduce their ability to spam a lot of infantry and reduce their healing since realm of souls triggers from having your non-construct units die. If their basic warriors cost a bit more people might stop mixing them up with Vampire count skeletons and complaining that a non-expendable unit should have the same capture weight as an expendable unit. Would be the same as saying that empire state troops should be expendable since Brettonian peasants are expendable and both units are humans, ergo all human basic infantry are expendable. Would balance them out without touching campaign. Guess it the same for all the top factions, they got a lot of undercosted units.

[@tylerdurden376]

09:54 this one troll haha

[@chrisB-sd1mb]

I know its been brought up before, but what was the reasoning behind not wanting to make a mod for competitive. Even if it was just small price tweaks it would probably do quite a bit towards making tournies feel more balanced. Kind of like civ players league does with better balanced factions

[@MrJacqques]

I don't know the actual reason, but when you have a small playerbase it can be devastating if you split it up into two. Which a mod would most certainly do, one group of people who don't know about it/don't care about/aren't good enough to tell the difference and another who will want it because they can tell the difference.

[@chrisB-sd1mb]

@@MrJacqques Would mainly be for these tournies as he was discussing how youre pigeon holed into banning the OP factions. The people who wouldnt know about it arnt picking and banning anything anyways

[@KachiAT]

@@chrisB-sd1mb you need to actually balance it and support it, then every patch you would need to update it, then you have a problem with newer player joining, because they need a mod, the more steps, the lesser the chance that people will join.

[@chrisB-sd1mb]

@@KachiAT But they use a mappack mod that you need to download already, you could literally include it in that...

[@twistygaming8017]

Hard to believe how fast the Hellstriders dumpstered the Stalkers in melee, considering the massive speed advantage I would think they're a bit squishier but I guess not

[@insearchofprometheus]

When everything is broken, nothing is.

[@Alien935]

The thumbnail game is strong in this one

[@Shimatzu95]

An idea i had a while ago was to just make it so belakor counts as a marked unit, that way you would me limited to 3 slanesh cav or bring another lord

[@will7466]

Speed means more in total war then table top. Slaanesh in general is rated based off it's tabletop cost not what the points should cost on the computer

[@deadlyydude5522]

Grand DJ Khatep always dropping some sick beats on the battlefield

[@streetstroller]

Haha, yeah. Only in the context of domination mode, though.

[@Anvilarm07]

Neat to see two super factions battle it out.

[@DerLoladin]

While I get these (were) both OP factions, this didn't even strike me as a real contest, WoC just trampled the TKs.

[@michalpiotrgorecki]

right now that metal spell is way superior to burning head. does simmilar damage to infantry, you cans cast 2 for 12 winds of magic while 1 burning head is 10 WOM. It costs 150 less (if you include not taking fire passive). it actually does decent damage to other types of units. demolishes cav, doels good dmg to big SEM nad 12 model units. Sometime i take archaon with just it. 2700. CRAZY speed, stats, buffs (+26/29 makes those hellstriders beat absolutely anything. and i mean demigryph knights with halbers units while they cose not even half of their cost) I truly believe that archaon might be best losr. A lot cheaper than belakor and while worse in 1v1 combat he definitly bring more General style gameplay, whiel belakor is terrorbomb that is incredibly tanky. But belakor is at least 3300, more like 3500.

[@mariojorge68]

Hey Turin, question: do you add the timers and extra info during editing, or are you using a mod/some game settings I don't know to get that? I'm helping a new player get into MP and that kind of detailed info during the game would help him a lot!

[@amarok5486]

It's a mod

[@YeemRAG]

Like Amarok said, it's a mod. I wanted to add that it's only visible during replays.

[@bigmcjones230]

Tbh I don't like that warriors get Hellstriders. Do they really need that? Maybe, I'm no expert in multiplayer.

[@renzbolado153]

WoC getting hellstriders isnt the issue, its the hellstriders themselves being stupid strong + the variety of other units they could pick from.

[@bigmcjones230]

@@renzbolado153 I agree the hell striders are stupid strong and it's dumb to see the cost effectiveness of them. I just wonder how the WoC would be without them for the sake of balance. Raise the price of striders for sure tho

[@TehGnomeh]

Best TK Army: Bone Giants. That's it.

[@travwinner2]

Tomb kings are op and I still lose 95% of the time with them lol

[@hagiaiit]

i dont find healing 100 hp for every spell worth it to be honest :P not unless i can constantly blast spells whit no cd and no worry for mana :P

[@JWSoul]

GG

[@grahamsmallwood]

Turin makes this a cinematic spectator sport. So people who quit early should be ashamed and switch to Hearthstone or something.

[@archibold23]

Hellstriders make it so boring

[@kazukihashimoto183]

one percent of 10.000 is 100... yeah what a major heal....

[@marcvanzyl8556]

I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but it really is a big heal. For 4 winds (? I think) you can just spam it over and over, every 50 seconds, for the whole army. Assuming lets say 15 units, that's 1,500 healing per cast. It's not the massive heal on a single target that's dangerous, but as you saw in this game, even so far behind on value the tomb kings were still in it because of all that value recovered.

[@kazukihashimoto183]

@@marcvanzyl8556 yeah but iff they nerf these "huge" heals they would be Trash can tier again like in WH 2

[@TheHandofDestiny]

Well it would be more than 100 since the heal is 1.4% in total

[@phaeron2450]

@@kazukihashimoto183 exactly. I do not hear him complaining about lore of Life passive. which is exactly the same. Lord of Life passive hits everything. Meanwhile restless Dead, does not heal constructs or carrion.

[@twobear13]

@@phaeron2450 The issue is more that undead are functionally unbreakable and TK having full capture weight that makes their healing passive silly. It's not necessarily broken on its own, it's a combination of everything.

[@CoronelOso]

Look closely at the Lord fight at the end of the game. Who is hunting who? That kind of stuff looses games. Fix it pls CA.

[@Emanon...]

Everchosen is such a stupid title when there's like 12 others that came before...

[@TheHandofDestiny]

Not really, Everchosen just means you've been chosen by the gods, the God will choose a lot of people since they've been around for so long

[@Sangheilitat117]

@@TheHandofDestiny He means that the “Ever” in Everchosen means that’s he’s always chosen, or constantly chosen, or perpetually chosen - when clearly none of that is true because they can obviously just die and get replaced by another one. It is kind of ironic.

[@sampiaggio9534]

Chaos gods: Yes you're the Everchosen, which means we will always chose you. But we never said we'd always only chose you. Be'lakor: You see this! This is why I have trust issues!

[@KachiAT]

@@sampiaggio9534 be'lakor gaslighting, classic

[@mariojorge68]

It means they can't be suplanted. Once you win the title of Everchosen, only death can take it from you. It's more akin to a life sentence than a promise of forevermore.

[@kleomenis456]

GG