Swedish Chainsaw Face-off: TC Eyemaster vs Boss HM-2

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@dionr1168
@dionr1168 6 жыл бұрын
How about making a Boss HM-2 clone with all 4 parameters permanently jacked all the way up, with the only control on the pedal being the switch itself?
@ScienceofLoud
@ScienceofLoud 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'd love to see that. TC when half way by maxing the two EQs internally and erasing the knobs, someone needs to take the next step.
@Germs19
@Germs19 6 жыл бұрын
Joe at Lone Wolf Audio literally released that today, haha. Check out the kingpin!
@Baylopersonal
@Baylopersonal 6 жыл бұрын
Adam1349 didn’t LWA make a one with just one knob too? Wasn’t it called the chainsaw death squad or something of that nature?
@heathencraftfx9680
@heathencraftfx9680 6 жыл бұрын
And the dunn effects nilhist
@Germs19
@Germs19 6 жыл бұрын
@@Baylopersonal I think it was called the dictator. He would probably still make it if you ask him.
@erictait6322
@erictait6322 6 жыл бұрын
Eye Master seems to have more top end, but for 60 bucks it would be cool to tweak with an eq pedal.
@rk28984
@rk28984 6 жыл бұрын
In the EU it's a 29€ pedal.
@Kathayne636
@Kathayne636 5 жыл бұрын
he has the tone cranked 100%. Just turn it down to 80% and they are the same
@ithemba
@ithemba 4 жыл бұрын
its kinda funny, there are comparisons of a HM2 and a Eyemaster where its spot on 100% identical. This one here is one of the more radical differences inbetween the two pedals that I've heard. So I guess the Eyemaster gets as close to the HM2 sound as does a HM2, given differences inbetween production of these.
@jorgepeterbarton
@jorgepeterbarton 3 жыл бұрын
@@ithemba i wonder if its a subtle way it interacts with guitar or amp. Like output level change? Or just tolerances between units.
@SxSxG666
@SxSxG666 2 жыл бұрын
@@ithemba Exactly even HM-2s sounded differently back then and even more nowadays I guess. The difference doesn't matter anyway. You can easily compensate with your amp settings. And I wouldn't say one sound is better then the other. Both is HM-2 Swedish Sulight Buzzsaw.
@lewispym3784
@lewispym3784 6 жыл бұрын
You should really make an Entombed cover with the guitars swapped out for actual chainsaws.
@likeanuuk6612
@likeanuuk6612 6 жыл бұрын
i wish metal bands still did experimental dirty tones, and it wasnt just a "90s" thing. btw i think the newer pedal sounds a little better (and thank you for demoing with the active pickups!)
@adrianamorphous
@adrianamorphous 6 жыл бұрын
Agree on both accounts
@DOGFACEDDEMON
@DOGFACEDDEMON 6 жыл бұрын
what's stoping you for doing so my friend.
@tomwilliams3965
@tomwilliams3965 6 жыл бұрын
There's an entire collection of bands which are reviving the hm2 sound but with a more hardcore approach! Check out Trap Them, Gatecreeper and Deathrite :)
@plaguesofwrath
@plaguesofwrath 6 жыл бұрын
There are loads of metal bands using nasty guitar tones. You're probably just looking in the wrong places. Try some war metal if you like disgusting guitar tone and nasty caveman riffs. There's also been an OSDM revival going on in the underground for the past couple of years and had generated some great stuff (check out Innumerable Forms and Of Feather and Bone) more "bestial", less melodic, just the way I prefer.
@ArtbyPaulPetro
@ArtbyPaulPetro 6 жыл бұрын
Checkout the band "Black Breath" they have totally got the HM-2 tone going and they aint 90's at all!
@dionr1168
@dionr1168 6 жыл бұрын
I thought Crystal Mountain was a Valvestate song and not an HM2 song! Whoever suggested that particular song for this video is on drugs!
@ScienceofLoud
@ScienceofLoud 6 жыл бұрын
It wasn' t the most outlandish suggestion I got, but I didn't want the whole video to be an Entombed greatest hits. Thought Crystal Mountain didn't sound too bad like this, especially with the active pickups leveling out the effect somewhat. A few people suggested Hammer Smashed Face, but that's a whole different horrible sound to the HM-2.
@dionr1168
@dionr1168 6 жыл бұрын
@@ScienceofLoud if I wanted to suggest the Floridian variety, I probably would've gone with Scars of the Crucifix by Deicide.
@gwEmbassy
@gwEmbassy 4 жыл бұрын
It was kinda cool hearing it on the Boss HM-2 though!!
@davu9027
@davu9027 10 ай бұрын
​@@dionr1168that would probably pretty messy since it has so many palm muted 0s
@InsomniacMatt
@InsomniacMatt 6 жыл бұрын
Every video on the Eyemaster I saw had everyone use it with volume and gain at or below noon and it sounded horrible. Thank you for demoing this using the true setting, I think you might have sold the Eyemaster for me
@ham6231
@ham6231 6 жыл бұрын
If you're running an HM-2-like pedal into another distortion like a lot of bands used to do, the gain and volume knobs are actually really useful in helping you find the best kind of sound for it. For example, on Slaughter Of The Soul by At The Gates they used the HM2 as a boost into a Metalzone with the gain at 0 and the volume at full. If you turned up the gain more on the HM2 then it wouldn't necessarily sound bad, but it would be a lot more saturated and that wasn't the sound they were going for.
@ham6231
@ham6231 6 жыл бұрын
I guess you could say that, but it still has that classic chainsaw-y distortion of the HM-2, it's just turned down a bit in extremeness
@sebsthexeno9460
@sebsthexeno9460 6 жыл бұрын
The Eyemaster sounds like it’s got more high end, therefore potential black metal tones as well if you just push the treble on the amp a little harder, so i’m in support of the Eyemaster. Although it could just be my tiny wallet speaking as well, who knows. Either way, great video!
@learlessfeader
@learlessfeader 6 жыл бұрын
I like that part where you played with the gain turned up.
@AlbertoHernandez-ow3xh
@AlbertoHernandez-ow3xh 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, can you make them a bit more gainy?
@OEpistimon
@OEpistimon 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@Jagdpz5
@Jagdpz5 6 жыл бұрын
And less middy?
@orenom6704
@orenom6704 6 жыл бұрын
Actually the gain on the hm2 is worthless, the sound of the saw comes from the 'high' knob. When you turn it all the way up it gives you the chainsaw sound, but you can get crunch sounds and more with it. Entombed cranked it all up, but the gain itself is pretty weak.
@vipervidsgamingplus5723
@vipervidsgamingplus5723 6 жыл бұрын
Metal zone for the gain just use the gain and nothing else to boost the gain
@ScienceofLoud
@ScienceofLoud 6 жыл бұрын
When it comes to 90s Death Metal tones, the Boss HM-2 reigns supreme, but can an affordable imitation, the TC Electronic Eyemaster, take its crown? This is the Swedish Chainsaw Face-off.
@thebaldchef7965
@thebaldchef7965 6 жыл бұрын
Too much gain
@albertomarmi2499
@albertomarmi2499 6 жыл бұрын
I prefer the tc..😞
@adamsteelproducer
@adamsteelproducer 6 жыл бұрын
The Bald Chef you’ve missed the point. That’s exactly the sound they were going for in early 90s extreme metal. Don’t like it? Tough.
@jacktowers7533
@jacktowers7533 6 жыл бұрын
CSGuitars Beautiful Video Colin, btw I found a Cheat code guys, get a Boss HM-3 it's basically the same as it's MIT predecessor if not more reliable, and closer to MIJ quality and because it wasn't the pedal Entombed and gates used, it goes for less than half the price of a HM-2 on reverb.
@fuckayouman3869
@fuckayouman3869 6 жыл бұрын
the Eyemaster is more organic
@Stagyar-Zil-Doggo
@Stagyar-Zil-Doggo 6 жыл бұрын
For people who haven't actually listened to Left Hand Path or Clandestine etc., you probably should do so before watching and more importantly commenting. In other words: If you have, no explanation is needed. If you haven't, no explanation is possible. Great video dude.
@ScienceofLoud
@ScienceofLoud 6 жыл бұрын
People get angry about things they don't understand, that's human nature. The people who know are getting it :)
@GuyDudeMan27
@GuyDudeMan27 6 жыл бұрын
I personally bought the Eyemaster after your video on the HM-2 to satisfy my needs for death metal tones, but I do like the bass frequencies of the HM-2 more. It’s a little more chuggy and deeper than the Eyemaster, which is a little more fizzy.
@ScienceofLoud
@ScienceofLoud 6 жыл бұрын
HM-2 certainly has a bit more chewiness in the lower frequencies, making it sound a good bit deeper.
@De50lat0r
@De50lat0r 6 жыл бұрын
Do you think an EQ pedal could make the Eyemaster have as much bass as the HM-2?
@CanadianRockerGuy
@CanadianRockerGuy 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@thezerb
@thezerb 6 жыл бұрын
Your demo convinced me that it was a better idea to buy the Eyemaster instead of bidding against Nihilist members on eBay :D Compared to the HM-2s I´ve played, I absolutely love the additional hi-mid cut of the Eyemaster. And it feels more "organic", for lack of a better word, like it actually cares at least a miniscule bit about what I´m playing, as opposed to all apocalypse all the time. I´m probably the only person on Earth using it with the gain turned all the way down, but in front of a slightly overdriven JCM800, when you stomp on that button the whole world just starts disintegrating at your command. And FUCKING Hell, you can feel your beard growing with every power chord \m/
@peteplaysmusic
@peteplaysmusic 6 жыл бұрын
HM-2 is still the winner for me! Are you going to be checking out the Merciless Distortion from Airis Effects too? :)
@ScienceofLoud
@ScienceofLoud 6 жыл бұрын
I will probably pick one up, can never have too many HM-2 clones
@berrett96
@berrett96 6 жыл бұрын
i preferred the classic HM-2. But the Eyemaster has a real gritty tone of its own, which is very similar to the HM-2. Please do more of these videos!!
@ScienceofLoud
@ScienceofLoud 6 жыл бұрын
To save me repeating myself to everyone who doesn't understand what's going on here, I made this video not too long ago explaining all about the HM-2, its history in the Swedish Death Metal genre, and why the settings are the way they are. Watch and gain an education, please: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJeZlIKEadSBatU
@JuveriSetila
@JuveriSetila 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, I think the Eye master is now first in my "need to get it" - list
@Mr.Goldbar
@Mr.Goldbar 6 жыл бұрын
the Eyemaster would be great for a live setting, but when it comes to recording or playing by yourself then there is the Behringer HM300, which sounds closer to the real deal, however it's made of plastic
@mitchell2719
@mitchell2719 6 жыл бұрын
One of the best demos I've seen of the eyemaster. Most of them don't seem to understand the point of the pedal.
@ScienceofLoud
@ScienceofLoud 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I think I managed to do it justice. A fair few of the comments here seem to be in the same boat of not understanding the point.
@jamessimpson1709
@jamessimpson1709 6 жыл бұрын
Just got myself an Eyemaster last week for £26. I don't play death metal but I got some interesting, usable sounds out of it.
@adrianamorphous
@adrianamorphous 6 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about the long lost Swedish death machine, the Arion Metal Master!
@baldyhead
@baldyhead 6 жыл бұрын
I have two. The DOD Super American Metal and Rocktek Metal Worker also do a good job.
@mcolby7214
@mcolby7214 6 жыл бұрын
1:00 oh what lovely clean tones I actually kind of like it. *stomp* What the hell just happened
@Travis-pf3gt
@Travis-pf3gt 6 жыл бұрын
I was soooo hoping to hear a death metal version of "wicked game". I got the eyemaster and really like it but I found more success using it as a filter and using my amps gain. Thanks for the comparison. 🤘
@alexseelow
@alexseelow 6 жыл бұрын
I just built the BYOC HM-2 clone “The Swede”, if it sounds as nasty as either of these I will be happy😂🤘🏻🤘🏻
@GrindfatherJones
@GrindfatherJones 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Seelow Not a fan of it. I’ve got one and the only thing it’s good for is my harsh noise setup. Hate it on both guitar and bass
@elraim73
@elraim73 6 жыл бұрын
The Swede in my opinion is VERY similar to the HM-2. Closer than the Eyemaster. I love it.
@MetalGuitar911
@MetalGuitar911 2 жыл бұрын
I love u man...I was desperately searching for this comparison and there u have it
@thomdushane
@thomdushane 6 жыл бұрын
Many years ago as a teen I acquired a crazy distortion pedal and I still have it to this very day. The cover panel is long gone, leaving the battery and bypass exposed. A couple months ago I decided to look it up and found that my battered old Rockson 'Metal Rocker' is in actuality a clone of the HM-2. These kinds of videos make me appreciate my hording, I still love it for detuned, Stoner Rock style riffs.
@countk1
@countk1 5 жыл бұрын
The Eyemaster seems to be a bit more '"Wolverine blues" ready imho. More harmonics that were initially realised by a totally overdosed 1x12" speaker of a Peavey Combo, stashed away in a box, so the recorded sound got compressed by the mic as well. I have a HM-2 from Korea, which actually sounds better with the distortion just turned on. That on a turned up JCM-800 full stack with GT12-75's and you will need a new pair of pants after playing one chord :-) Sold the 800, which I will regret the rest of my life... Not really an amp for an appartment, lol.... One question: what supply do you use? Most power supplies don't have a balanced 9V output these , so I needed to put a wire from tjhe internal 0V to the earth to get it working again (voltage drop?). I somehow think it altered the whole thing a bit though.
@kevinbirge2130
@kevinbirge2130 3 жыл бұрын
The impact of the cheap, reliable solid state Peavey in metal is rarely acknowledged.
@RaulLazo22
@RaulLazo22 6 жыл бұрын
OMFG my suggestion is the first one Colin played, my day is officially made, thanks Colin!!!
@Ndarkfire0900
@Ndarkfire0900 6 жыл бұрын
LMAO my HM-2 literally just came in the mail 10 minutes ago, then I saw this, IT WAS MEANT TO BE!!
@ScienceofLoud
@ScienceofLoud 6 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the carnage!
@walstafa
@walstafa 6 жыл бұрын
I quite like the Eyemaster, it's got a bit more high end/upper mids than the old HM-2 and for less than a quarter of the price of an actual MIJ on the used market these days. (Side note, prices have gone wild over the last year, regretting not grabbing one a year or two ago) How do they sit in a mix?
@famitory
@famitory 6 жыл бұрын
the eyemaster has a noticeably higher formant resonance than your particular hm-2. i suspect that this sort of resonant frequency variance is probably present in different hm-2s as well, so itd be nice if tc electronic had put a third knob on top to let you adjust the frequency of the filters together to better match with whichever hm-2 the player wants to emulate at the time.
@steelwarrior105
@steelwarrior105 6 жыл бұрын
Wish i was following on instagram before this would have loved to see some bolt thrower, also hm2 hands down, left hand path was night and day
@ScienceofLoud
@ScienceofLoud 6 жыл бұрын
LHP really showed the difference. Eyemaster comes close, but not close enough for classic Entombed. Bolt Thrower would have been great in here. Maybe next time.
@steelwarrior105
@steelwarrior105 6 жыл бұрын
World Eater or granite wall... hint hint
@User-jk8wq
@User-jk8wq 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like they both have a really prominent upper-mid peak, although at different frequencies. The HM-2’s peak is a little lower than the Eyemaster’s. Either way, great comparison!
@ScienceofLoud
@ScienceofLoud 6 жыл бұрын
One thing I should have added in this video was the noise floor of both these pedals, you can really tell the peak frequency difference just by listening to the idle noise.
@cameronjenkins6748
@cameronjenkins6748 6 жыл бұрын
I think another face-off that needs to be done is the HM-2 vs. the DOD FX-56, since their circuits are almost identical. However, the DOD has the bass knob permanently set at 100%, which I've found makes the pedal perfect for use as a disgustingly over-the-top bass fuzz.
@chronoshadow2611
@chronoshadow2611 6 жыл бұрын
I like how close the Eyemaster is to the HM-2, just with a bit more treble. It should be a must if someone's going for that chainsaw sound, would like to try en experiment a little bit with what sounds you can get out of it. Awesome video as always Colin, and remember to scoop the mids!
@MrKichtopher
@MrKichtopher 6 жыл бұрын
Best advert for using a Metal Zone into the front end of an amp I ever saw. 😃😃
@adrianamorphous
@adrianamorphous 6 жыл бұрын
I haven't played an actual HM-2 but from what I know either pedal paired with any eq is amazing.
@matthewbaccari8256
@matthewbaccari8256 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video on EQ settings with a metal zone.
@gibsonmesa00
@gibsonmesa00 5 жыл бұрын
The Eyemaster has more clarity. Just a touch more crispiness. Listening on over ear headphones.
@v8dreaming
@v8dreaming 5 жыл бұрын
There is a difference. It's small, but it's there. The Eyemaster sounds more trebly. Would be interesting to compare them both to the Behringer clone of the HM2.
@rk28984
@rk28984 6 жыл бұрын
Also a good alternative is the DOD Boneshaker as it can get pretty nasty and with the parametic EQ very near to a HM2 sound.
@bigmaz4002
@bigmaz4002 6 жыл бұрын
Rotten*Sludge upload that dude!! I love your vids
@rk28984
@rk28984 6 жыл бұрын
just wait a bit, something will be coming ;)
@elraim73
@elraim73 6 жыл бұрын
I have found zero use for the Boneshaker. I loved the demos, but in my hands it is crap. It just does nothing for me.
@rk28984
@rk28984 6 жыл бұрын
I normally use the Boneshaker with maybe 1/4 of the gain and 1/2 of the volume into an overdriven amp and use the debth and EQ to shape the tone. Works pretty well only negative I find is that it's a very noisy pedal.
@simon12332
@simon12332 4 жыл бұрын
I wish it could have a "stringfollow" feature (if you will) , where the high end comes through more on the higher note, but then you get that aggressive, but slightly darker sound on the lowest string
@knixx7047
@knixx7047 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you using iconic riffs. The pedal(s) are only one part of the equation. Anyway, HM-2 but I own LHW and HMD-1 clones. I can't remember which producer said it but he had a whole line-up of HM-2 clones and most musicians just preferred to use the Boss HM-2 for maximum kvltness.
@shottybeatssword
@shottybeatssword 6 жыл бұрын
Really liked this comparison!
@aldersmoke1
@aldersmoke1 5 жыл бұрын
All I want is for the Eyemaster to sound exactly the same as the HM-2, which it doesn't. If they'd only put a tone knob on it so you could roll back the high end just a little bit, it would be there. As it stands, the Behringer HM300, with the high tone knob rolled off slightly (everything else dimed), gets much closer. Unfortunately it's made out of butterfly wings and will endure maybe 4 stomps.
@leearmitage
@leearmitage 6 жыл бұрын
personally for the 90's chainsaw tone HM-2 all the way as for a clone the behringer HM-300 is closer than the eyemaster which I will be doing a review in the very near future
@Silaan
@Silaan 6 жыл бұрын
they sound slightly different, with the Eyemaster being a bit more trebbly in timbre and actually a slight bit less muddy... I am assuming the Eyemaster is basically a clone of the HM-2 with the high and low knob simply hardwired to be dimed (and, let's be real, that is basically the only setting most people would use anyway) and the difference in sound could either be a deliberate variation to make it a bit more modern while keeping the general nastiness... or it is just the tolerances being on opposite ends of the spectrum between that specific HM-2 and that specific Eyemaster. In all honesty, I think I actually liked the Eyemaster a little more... Both are probably a nightmare to mix well regardless, and considering what frankly absurd amounts you can pay for a barely functioning HM-2 nowadays, I'd likely get the Eyemaster instead... in fact, actually honestly considering to get one right now . . .
@CraigDeubler
@CraigDeubler 6 жыл бұрын
Was that in the front or straight into the effects return? Very close, Eyemaster sounds a like it'll cut through a bit more.
@Alex718.
@Alex718. 5 жыл бұрын
Wow this pedal is great. I think you made me want to get this for my chainsaw sound. The HM-2 is a classic but its pretty expensive. Thanks! \m/
@BudgetPedalChap
@BudgetPedalChap 6 жыл бұрын
Great comparison as always Colin. The eyemaster seems to have less of a woofy bass response, so I would assume it would sit a bit nicer in a mix. If that specific sound is what you’re after, I don’t think the eyemaster would be a bad shout. That being said however, they both sound like burnt ass.
@vincentbelair6407
@vincentbelair6407 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool demo. Mine sound about the same with my 7 strings jackson, but when i play the 4 lower strings it sound totaly not like you sowed. Did you tuned your guitar a special way ? Like dropping all the cords ?
@kcrich1391
@kcrich1391 6 жыл бұрын
I'd go with the Boss. The TC sounded kind of flat. Were those pedals in the effects loop or in the front of the amp?
@balintsloboda7651
@balintsloboda7651 6 жыл бұрын
I think the HM2 sounds better. The TC is more fuzz like and not distortion like. Maybe if you dial the gain back a little it would be just as good but with these settings the HM2 is the winner.
@Admiral_Bongo
@Admiral_Bongo 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the distortion stages are identical. The real difference I hear is that TC is certainly a hint brighter.
@Leo_ofRedKeep
@Leo_ofRedKeep 6 жыл бұрын
Nice pedals but what was the point of moving fingers on the fretboard all the time? Is that just for looks?
@joshstarkey8883
@joshstarkey8883 6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to hear what each of them do to a bass, maybe blended with a clean from an LS 2
@jeffmansfield914
@jeffmansfield914 6 жыл бұрын
Which one was "better"? Tough to say. I definitely like the beefier HM-2 sound, but the Eyemaster had a cool "notched" tone as if there was a fixed-position wah pedal on along with it. I like them both.
@baldyhead
@baldyhead 6 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about getting an Eyemaster to join all my other clones; now I know it must be done.
@ciddax754
@ciddax754 4 жыл бұрын
I like both and I would put in both cases an EQ into the signal chain. The HM-2 is a little bit dull, what I would correct to put in some highs and high mids. Sadly all knobs are on max.The Eyemaster is brighter and I can't dial it back. A little bit too bright for my taste. So an EQ would have to do the job. The perfect pedal lives in between those two.
@bsadistik4421
@bsadistik4421 6 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison! I think they would work very well together as the Behringer HM300 does with the HM-2. One has to have the "chainsaw mood" to compose for HM-2. Crystal Mountain doesn't sound that good with this distortion in my opinion. It's the best distortion ever, but one must write for it. You could make a video showing how to get this sound using amp sims.
@brybosch
@brybosch 6 жыл бұрын
I feel an EQ pedal could help the Eyemaster with a bit more Bass since it sounds a bit more nasal than the HM-2, although if you want to sound like Bloodbath's Ressurection Through Carnage it's perfect as is. Still sounds like a nice replacement for the HM-2 that wouldn't make my wallet cry definitely going to buy one now, even though it seems a little elusive itself.
@aegisraven1284
@aegisraven1284 2 жыл бұрын
Entombed back the distortion down though.....and the peavey bandit 65 miced in front and back are what's needed
@chrisdaviesguitar
@chrisdaviesguitar 6 жыл бұрын
I bought my Boss HM2 pedal around 1980-01. It came with a brass plaque (still on my key fob) stating it was the 3 millionth Boss unit ever sold. My rig in those days was my H||H IC100S solid state head, an old Marshall 4 X 12, my Boss HM2 and my John Birch SG. Phil Campbell (Motorhead) asked me at one gig, 'How do you get that sound?'. That did make me smile a bit. Hvaing said the above, I still have the original packaging, which came with a handbook demonstrating how to emulate other famous players sounds, e.g., use this setting to sound like EVH. It's not just a death metal machine. Either way, I love the T-shirt, are they available to buy?
@elraim73
@elraim73 6 жыл бұрын
Don't know if they're still available. It's from the grindcore band Rotten Sound. Worth checking out.
@Tritium21
@Tritium21 6 жыл бұрын
The HM2 still wins for me, but the Eyemaster does the job, and would sit right in the same mix as the HM2. I would go with either, or the BYOC The Swede if I felt like soldering.
@21stcenturymetal31
@21stcenturymetal31 4 жыл бұрын
Both amazing. Great video
@Sven.Jeschke
@Sven.Jeschke 6 жыл бұрын
The Eyemaster has a nice treble boost, but the original HM-2 seems to be a little bit clearer (well, in lack of a better description) in the low mids. Both are great! But... why the hell was „Crystal Mountain“ chosen?
@Yupppi
@Yupppi 4 жыл бұрын
That's... a sound. Somehow only the TC's demos have sounded usable. The Death clip here was decent but weird. Something about this pedal has to be very difficult to capture. I feel like the pedal is so close to the HM-2 that it's not necessary to talk about their differences, but more about how to get a decent sound out of them in your setup.
@remickunderwood515
@remickunderwood515 2 ай бұрын
I love my Eyemaster \m/ HM-2 is obviously the authentic tone, but the Eyemaster and some EQ can definitely do the job. Especially for the price.
@slickrick5574
@slickrick5574 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly love them both, but the eyemaster was a bit less muddy. Which I was digging.
@thechannelforeverything2170
@thechannelforeverything2170 6 жыл бұрын
I think they both sound very similar and it wouldn’t really matter which one you get
@hitsfromthebong7629
@hitsfromthebong7629 5 жыл бұрын
Damn the Eyemaster sounds even better!!! Im getting one fo sho!!!!
@21stcenturymetal31
@21stcenturymetal31 4 жыл бұрын
Both sound great. Everyone likes the HM2 including me but the eye master sounds good in its own right and far cheaper. With a little EQing and a gate the eye master has better articulation.
@RoachDoggJr2112
@RoachDoggJr2112 6 жыл бұрын
I noticed very little difference. The HM-2 sounded more bassy/the Eyemaster sounded more trebley. For some riffs, I preferred the HM-2, and for others I preferred the Eyemaster
@40cam
@40cam 6 жыл бұрын
I like the better lowend you seem to be able to get out of the Original HM-2. The eyemaster sounded to bright with the first guitar you used in the video but sounded great with the single pick up explorer shaped guitar.
@prodigalson56
@prodigalson56 5 жыл бұрын
I like the striped back controls, you can always just use the EQ on your amp or use an EQ pedal :) I always hated the Beringer plastic casing, this seems much better (Beringer bought out TC electronics for those that didn't know).
@chrisnagy1429
@chrisnagy1429 5 жыл бұрын
Nice. Very identical but as people noted there is a high-end fizz with the Eyemaster. Well, hats off to Entombed. I hope they got bucks off the name at least. Wolverine Blues is maybe my fave Entombed album. Thanks and the Eyemaster is on the way.
@SlshrX
@SlshrX 3 жыл бұрын
Eyemaster sounds epic rigged through Boss EQ pedal. Another alternative to the HM2, for me anyway, is the Grunge Pedal through Boss EQ aswell. Gives a really dirty sound but at the end of the day, it also depends on the set up you have, what guitar (pick ups) you use, which leads, which amps/heads etc. Listening to KZbin videos never does any pedal any justice unless you listen to them live, in room. Oh, that also make a difference aswell; the setting you're in - small room, large room, hall, outdoors etc. Anyway 🤘🏻
@PsychedelicCheeseburgers
@PsychedelicCheeseburgers Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised at how different they sound. I expected to not even be able to tell the difference, but the difference is actually rather huge. In this particular face-off I think the Eyemaster sounds better, and I already own one, but I came here to determine if I should get an actual HM-2, and after seeing how different the two are, I feel like I do need a real HM-2 because while the Eyemaster sounds great, it doesn't exactly sound like the Entombed tone that the HM-2 gives you.
@KofC666
@KofC666 6 жыл бұрын
i own both (and several other HM2 clones - check out the WURM of KMA) and must admit, that the difference is hearable for sure. But if you play only one of these for lets say half an hour, noone could ever say, if it´s the original or not... btw. very cool comparison video and edit !
@tsvetanlozanov3984
@tsvetanlozanov3984 4 жыл бұрын
This video got me into Old School Death metal.
@Jimm386
@Jimm386 2 жыл бұрын
Slaughter of the soul intro…perfect introduction to the pedal 👍
@patrickellis142
@patrickellis142 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing about At the Gates is that they use Both the Boss HM2 and a Boss Metal zone. I think that’s right.
@saitenhexer
@saitenhexer 2 жыл бұрын
I had a HM 2 Japan, a HM 2 Taiwan and the eyemaster, they sound all a bit different, but every good in its own way 🤟🤟🤟
@JimijaymesProductions
@JimijaymesProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Stupidly sold my HM-2 mainly because I had no use for it really but prices have hiked since then (about 10 years ago).
@Robert-dt3is
@Robert-dt3is 5 жыл бұрын
HM-2 - Mids scooped a bit Eyemaster - Upper Mids full force Each their unique flavor depending on what you are going for. I like HM-2
@mattster693
@mattster693 6 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for my eyemaster to come in the mail! 😭 it's taking forever
@tobiastk5391
@tobiastk5391 6 жыл бұрын
You should try the ibanez 7th heaven distortion. Nasty as all hell when boosted with a tube screamer or a boss super overdrive, all in the fx loop.
@x3aExPHEONIX
@x3aExPHEONIX 6 жыл бұрын
I was immediately vomiting as soon as the first riff played. I need an Eyemaster.
@KaldDodeGitarist
@KaldDodeGitarist 6 жыл бұрын
While the eyemaster sounds great, it's a little too treble-y for my taste. At least that's how it sounds through my speakers
@ScienceofLoud
@ScienceofLoud 6 жыл бұрын
Eyemaster more upper mids focused and has a high end fizz, although it is tighter in the low end. This could probably be compensated on the amp though to reign it back in.
@greigwilliamson6763
@greigwilliamson6763 6 жыл бұрын
They are both the very pinnacle of the infamous chainsaw wasp can sound! But I love the hm2
@pepstriebeck1163
@pepstriebeck1163 6 жыл бұрын
Just great! I spit my coffee all over the table ! I can t stop laughing since the moment you stepped on the pedal. Thats going to be a hard day out there with that ''tone'' still in my ears. Thanks Colin ,i really Love your videos.
@blakecurtis7809
@blakecurtis7809 6 жыл бұрын
Eyel master is a great contender. Considering the HM-2 is hard to come by and expensive i would say go with T.C. Electronics. You can adjustments pre and post effects that can get a near perfect match to HM-2. Although it would be nice to say " Yeah i own a original HM-2, WHAT!!!"
@lesommelierdevikernes
@lesommelierdevikernes 6 жыл бұрын
I have an eyemaster but I have to buy a new amp,can I put it on a boss Katana 50?Thanks for the answer and sorry for my english cause I’m italian.
@krisania96
@krisania96 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna buy the eyemaster cuz' i think it's easier to work with in a live setting, hoping i could make the "blended" chainsaw tone live so the notes would stay defined but the tone would still be brutal, i think if i deal most of the gain on the amp instead of the pedal but give it the tone of the pedal i would have an "easier to understand" chainsaw tone.
@bodachtv5145
@bodachtv5145 5 жыл бұрын
I love the hm2.....I picked up the behringer hm300 clone...and tbh...it’s dam close...it’s funny at practice with my band Bodach when I bring it and blast out entombed or dismember ....you see the death metal faithful smile like rabid animals at the knarlyness of the sound...I know it sounds horrible....and it’s just nasty.....but there is something about the sound I just love....thanks Colin....
@B_Rowen
@B_Rowen 6 жыл бұрын
The eyemaster seemed adequate for riffs, especially higher ones, but way to much high frequency for chords ringing out or low riffs
@davidkronzek6305
@davidkronzek6305 6 жыл бұрын
Eyemaster has more of a fizzy top end to it, I imagine it would cut better in the mix; But HM-2 is more tweakable.
@TheKevbe
@TheKevbe 6 жыл бұрын
Really good job!
@Sad_girl_kitty
@Sad_girl_kitty 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus! It sounds like the insane setting on a Line 6 Spider.
@richard.featherstone
@richard.featherstone 6 жыл бұрын
I think there are some angry bees trapped in my tablet
@PantheonLincoln
@PantheonLincoln 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not even metal player, but I want one of these. I reckon it'd be good for post-rock style noise.
@toothace3
@toothace3 6 жыл бұрын
Both sound great...HM-2 had a touch more chugga-chugga
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