Swift Sport ZC32S Ticking Sound 3 Month/4000 Mile Update

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@fluxington 3 ай бұрын

I haven't read all the previous comments (in previous videos) but my first thought (because I've been looking at service intervals recently) is timing chain, and you just said it in the video! 100k - 150k is when you should keep an eye on the noises from chain under normal conditions, but yours could have stretched.

@wallsworkshop 2 ай бұрын

It could well have stretched slightly, when I had the rocker cover off and felt the chain it still felt tight as a nut but these m16s need to be absolutely bang on within their margins tbf. If I can determine it’s not valves I’ll be looking at the chain for sure

@ciaranmcconaghy2111 3 ай бұрын

yes mate, up for holiday vids. Great update as been thinking about it.

@wallsworkshop 2 ай бұрын

I did make a holiday video but I’ll have to see if it’s worthy of the channel 😂😂

@neiljarvis8911 Ай бұрын

Have you checked your valve clearances with a set of feeler gauges. Checking the clearances is fairly easy, you insert feeler gauges to acertain the clearance between the bucket and the base circle of the cam with the came lobe pointing up. You have already removed your cam cover in a precious video so were in the right place. A tight clearance could cause the vave to remain open by a small amount which would cause a loss of compression or in the case of exhaust valves particularly, cause the seat to burn. A too loose clearance will cause the valve not to open fully by a few thou (so what) but will create the tappety sound as the cam takes up the clearance between it and the bucket. The shims are under the buckets and can be removed using a lever tool without removing the cams so I believe on these engines. A thicker shim will overcome the issue where the clearance is too great, conversely a thinner shim will cure the problem where there is too little clearance. If it sounds tappety, then it's likely caused by to large a tappet clearance, while irritating this isn't the greatest problem, a tight clearance could cause damage but you'd never know untill you got a misfire because it will be quiet. Do the measurements of clearance and you will find out whether you have a problem or not.

@wallsworkshop 15 күн бұрын

I haven't used feeler gauges yet, It's been back together and running as is since this previous video. No further signs of it getting any worse at all. I'm hopeful that soon I'll have the time to go through this and actually check the clearances properly as I won't be using it daily. I will definitely refer back to your comment, thank you for this 🙏

@jasonboyle7203 3 ай бұрын

Just remembered when had noisy tapping mini this worked for me. Sat in carpark Held it at 3k for 3 minutes as helps oil get pumped upto valves.

@wallsworkshop 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip! I doubt it will work on this sadly as I do a lot of motorway mileage and at 70 she sits at exactly 3k revs but never gets better

@juststuff531 Ай бұрын

Sounds exactly the same as mine. I’m on 93k, just started doing it more noticeably. It definitely is the valve clearances lad. It’s not the timing chain. That would slap a lot more, I’m an engineer for reference. Get your valves adjusted and you’ll be golden

@wallsworkshop 15 күн бұрын

I thought so, people have told me timing chain but like you say it'll be slapping it's nuts off lol. Still hasn't got worse in all this time to this day, when I can I'll have the valves adjusted, should be able to do it now as I won't be dailying it.

@J88AGT 3 ай бұрын

To me it just sounds like a typical timing chain tick from any vehicle, as cant hear the best over camera anyways, they do unfortunately make noise and all swifts do, mine has 16000 miles on it and it ticks from cold and I've asked a mate who has a swift and his also does the same which has about 35000 miles on it , as long as its not rattling which would indicate a stretched chain or failed tensioner then i wouldn't worry also try 5w30 oil if you don't use that already , good video 👍👍

@wallsworkshop 2 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s not the best over the camera sadly, defo not stretched the chain and it’s not rattling I’ve said to quite a few that suggested chain that mine is tight as a nut. I’m not so worried about it anymore it’s more annoying at this point lol. She already has 5w30 in her has done for the past few services now, nice one 👌👍

@musoseven8218 3 ай бұрын

As with another poster, I know I mentioned shimming the cam followers (mine's a low mileage 1.2, that sounds tappety on start up some days - not sure if they're hydraulic and so quieten after a few minutes of use, because mine seem to quieten, or if they're solid), however I didn't recall you'd done so many miles? Let's face it, although listed on the service schedule, the tappets aren't often shimmed by main dealers imho, they fudge the issue. As you've found, it may be worth changing the RC gasket periodically too, to stop the bolts seizing in place. But I digress, timing chain, guides and tensioners come into the picture too, with that sort of mileage mate. Not sure of service intervals though🤔 Oh and main dealer, last time, put in thinner oil (used on later Swifts) in mine, Comma et al, as does the manual, recommends thicker, higher viscosity oil. Main Dealers, only sell you what they've bought in bulk. I know that you change your own oil, so it's not a factor, but my comments may alert others. Regular engine flushes seem to help these days, they keep timing chains, followers and turbos in better condition for longer. Most main dealers don't do a EO flush though, surprise, surprise. One local garage swears by it with a timing chain car/engined, I'm inclined to agree too. Have you tried a long screwdriver, resting on your jaw against the cylinder head and/or timing chaim cover? Better still a stethoscope or higher tech version? Then you'd know where the sound is coming from. If you cant diagnose or decide? Id get the shims done (you and your dad could do the work, not sure if specialist tools are required), if that stops the noise? Job done. Id recommend engine flushes on a fairly regular basis for the sake of the timing chain etc.

@wallsworkshop 2 ай бұрын

I’m hoping it’s not chain or tensioner related as I’ll be in for a hefty bill there as I can’t tackle that myself with the place and kit that I currently have. I also do regulars engine flushes every other service (servicing between 4-5k miles) That’s my next move to get a stethoscope and listen in on the rocker cover so I can hopefully determine where exactly it comes from. Specialist tools are required to do the work too sadly and I cannot for the life of me find the Suzuki kit. Closest is Lexus and Toyota but that requires modifying before using on an M series engine. I reckon it will stop the noise but I’ll have to pay through the nose to get it done I reckon, nobody wants to touch it

@musoseven8218 2 ай бұрын

@@wallsworkshop Hi buddy, I was thinking of you and your motor today. I think it's the tappets 🤞👍🙏 mine are a little noisier even with low miles. Main Dealer and local garage are now recommending 0W-20 fully synthetic (iirc originally it was 5W 30 to start with), I'm not sure if that's a good or not so good move. Mine has an engine flush every 10k miles. I'm trialing a new garage (my partner has used them) and they seem clued up but still knew nothing about shimming Suzuki top ends. It's common practice on many cars, even back Alphas from the 1980s. Have you tried looking at or contacting tool companies such as Sealey or Sykes-Pickavant (SP used to do specialist tools for engine work) to see if they can help. There's clearly a need/demand someone must make the tool. I wish we could get hold of a workshop manual/Haynes manual too. I'm not sure why there are no hookie ones on disc, for MK3's etc on eBay tbh The actual job isn't hard with the right tools and the right size shims (unless of course Suzuki has gone completely off piste). I hope that helps 🤞👍🙏💜😊

@alexsentes6105 23 сағат бұрын

Hello, whats your exhaust please, it seems to be quieter than mine and i like it because mine is too loud when i go over 3000rpm and in even in general, i have rc racing a group (its the silencer) i dont know english well, sorry for that

@austinmorris4390 3 ай бұрын

I have the same problem pissing me of trying to figure this shit out it’s only on 34 k too will keep a listen out seems like a lot of people have this problem

@musoseven8218 3 ай бұрын

As other posters and I've written, it could be timing chain and guides or the tappets need shimming (every 30k miles iirc). An engine flush might not go amiss and making sure you've the thicker viscosity oil too.

@MONTIG369 11 күн бұрын

What's the verdict? I've seen you haven't uploaded in a few months? Hope Suzie is doing well? I'm struggling with my Suki she can't seem to pass the NCT (MOT in UK) emmisions are too high she's only 2015?! Engine light on and MAF sensor replaced at last service. Can any zc32 enthusiasts assist😂 Hope to see some new uploads soon!

@wallsworkshop 5 күн бұрын

She’s still going strong! All is well thanks 😎wow NCT must be strict in comparison 😂maybe the cat is a bit blocked? I’d check it out with a code reader and if it’s the usual suspected ghost code get it cleared and give it another shot. You haven’t got a mystery decat by any chance have you 😂 I’ll be back soon I’m just working on some consistency for the channel!