ZVD 🇺🇸 vs Alem 🇫🇷 | Florida Beatbox Battle 2024 | Semifinal 2

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[@shieldbeatbox]

Big ups to both competitors here because they both did great! Personally I feel like ZVD took this battle but no discredit to the legend Alem!

[@poedim_da_vipyem]

bro, this decision of the judges shows that arbitrariness can happen in battles. Judges can do whatever they want, and do not bear responsibility for their mistakes, continuing to referee battles. in football, a referee is removed from his job for an erroneous decision, but in beatboxing, everything is forgiven to the referees. Shield, gather together the entire American community and make a video message that you want these judges to be removed from work. You can do it, don’t forgive them for it. otherwise they will continue the chaos. Here the winner is ZVD and all of us commentators support him!

[@skraldegang3089]

@@poedim_da_vipyem The only problem is that football has certain rules that a referee can enforce, whereas a judge also has to account for subjectivines, live perfomance and crowd work. you gotta remember that being in a stage filled with raging audience help differ your opinion.

[@Shiny-4ddr]

Happens. A lot but what can we do. There are no clear rules

[@feelmipain]

Beatbox results are 95% based on what the present judges love to do. I don't watch these competition anymore after seeing so many losing because of bad decisions.

[@Tripwelleverday]

Zvd style and flow burned him he isn’t as polished but it’s almost like Alem kept getting in his face when he was hitting

[@CZARDOOM7]

zvd had pretty much perfect execution here, his combos are so nice to listen to on stage. while i will say that i think zvd beatboxed better here, alem has such a great way of connecting with the crowd. yes, i know he's been doing this for over 10 years, but tiger shot gets me pumped up every time, i cant help it. this goes to zvd for me, but man what a great battle

[@smittybeats]

If only he didn’t mess up the spit snare timing and power during round 2 2nd drop.. Alem being the savvy veteran he is, knew at that point he just had to have a clean round in his style to win

[@KarmaRinchenTamang]

Perfect execution? Several tempo mistakes in first round and the second round was better but he used that spitsnare too much wholeheartedly..

[@A_Very_Hairy_Canary]

French crowd French beatboxer. He didn't even have to try to connect.

[@red5250]

@@KarmaRinchenTamang don’t know what ur talking about tempo mistakes, and the first round was miles better than the second round. His throat bass was all messed up in the second round

[@SJAF0908]

I love alem so much and what hes done for this community but I'm not sure he should have won this

[@Pinkguy6999]

He tkked zvd for good

[@elfilaliboubaker5217]

Bro are u crazy or what ? Alem did alot of things no body can do .. besides his performance and showmanship were epic and crowd controle was incredable

[@keek4413]

@@elfilaliboubaker5217 i was there at the event, we all still believed ZVD won.

[@GlossArt]

​@@keek4413 you asked everyone?

[@vedantgupta2145]

@@elfilaliboubaker5217 das not true

[@joseonjuice]

Alem is the only person in the world that can spam TkKs every round and still win

[@ramadhanw843]

Moreover u ,always did spam and didn't win anything🤣

[@ramadhanw843]

Second Round is Important Round,coz How to Remember Your routine to The Judes...

[@vastolordeshutin]

don't forget super saiyan presence

[@staniubrd]

Haha❤❤❤

[@blazebbx3173]

cause judges are dumb

[@poedim_da_vipyem]

Here the judges made a big mistake. Now I have doubts about the Competence of these people. They let their good friends through to the Finals, and not those who truly deserve it. I won't watch Swiss anymore!!!

[@absence9443]

why that statement is probably true, it shouldnt make you quit watching swiss, can't blame the editors for biased judges, gbb24 will probably hit hard as always

[@ameerhazim9495]

you know that "robberies"/"bad judging" had exist since gbb19 right? but somehow a lot of people make a huge deal in this battle

[@leeshery1850]

Брат ты что следишь за Битбокс сценой?😂

[@HeAtTV]

You realize the owner of Swiss was the only one to vote for ZVD right?

[@jusweljaw]

nah Alem came to battle and had the crowd with him ZVD had nearly perfect execution but could not keep up with the energy of alem. Alem engaged both the crowd and the judges in a flurry of attacks towards his opponent. If this were an elimanation then alem would have lost but it's a battle

[@Rykiion]

i believe zvd took that in many aspects and should have won the battle. although, i’m no judge!! loved the battle ❤️

[@FRKBeatBox]

How

[@poedim_da_vipyem]

the judges were simply bought

[@obby3836]

Dickriding Alem

[@FettySquah]

i agree with pepounis decision here, pretty close battle but thought zvd edged it with his execution and sounds, alem’s stage presence is next level though undeniably, sick battle

[@hiraeth5]

ZVD brought out my two favorite routines (probably because he knew how tough it would be) You can tell this is rigged when you hear the reaction of ZVD’s drop vs the reactions to alems goofy Pokémon beat

[@AyukaAmameth]

Aint no way biggest robbery after elissi

[@sgod4538]

u forgot about trungbao vs markmartin

[@AyukaAmameth]

@@sgod4538 yea that too😭😭

[@elektabilitas]

​@@sgod4538then napom vs river

[@skr1869]

U forgot zen hit 2019 duo elimination

[@dhritimanmandalddm]

come on ............ I thought it was an easy win for ZVD ..................... I'm literally shocked !!

[@joseonX]

Alem overated asf. He got nothing new from years

[@ColbyCheeser]

@@joseonX ZVD does reuse the same rounds a lot. Alem's sounds were a cleaner and his crowd work felt better in my opinion.

[@rustombeat8598]

Yeah me too

[@DHawkBeats]

@@ColbyCheeserreusing sounds shouldn’t even be an issue in general but esp since alem’s drumkit stays the same all these years. ZVD has awesome composition and musicality with his wild sound combinations

[@f-twelve7155]

Glad to see I'm not the only one thinking ZVD should've won that, no disrespect to any of them but putting judges where their beatboxing styles are very old school seems definately biased towards someone such as Alem. Alem had the Energy and Quickness, ZVD had a checkmark everywhere else.

[@Boris_TheBlade_666]

Like bad structure with spam special sounds at random moments, true

[@Logan_754]

@@Boris_TheBlade_666alem did tkks his whole round and second round. I’d pick variety over alem🤷‍♀️

[@aydenmartin4927]

@@Boris_TheBlade_666- you clearly weren’t listening, because most of it was well-made structure with only a few actual mess-ups that were made up of those “random sounds” which actually made up for the mess-ups. And quite frankly, you talk some big game about structure coming from someone rooting for the guy who spammed a beatboxing sound that makes it really hard to NOT have structure.

[@South-uh5wu]

​@@aydenmartin4927I think Alem won this won this one because zvd reused his wildcard whereas Alem did something different (albeit with his old-school style)

[@aydenmartin4927]

@@South-uh5wu - Most of Alem’s rounds were both just constant tkk’s… For one thing, that’s his wildcard, which he also reused, and for another he did not do anything different. He mostly just reused old routines and techniques.

[@Spittin_Sax]

France won every event in gbb, so i didnt expect much else here

[@wes8427]

France didnt won Florida 🤡

[@Gengar-2]

@@wes8427 or the gbb crew category

[@VLAD_BBX]

After I watched this live I expected 5-0 ZVD for sure

[@absence9443]

wth are the judges doing lol, alem continues spamming the same combos every round and ZVD did both of his wildcards on stage near perfectly.

[@Javier-bs9nr]

@@absence9443you didn’t know that you vote for your friend? Lol

[@Madoxbeatbox]

1:04 video starts here

[@MJR91]

My jaw hit the floor seeing the judges decision... crazyyyy

[@BDK_bbx]

ZVD: I’m a broken robot Alem: Let it goooooo…tktktktktk Love both of them ❤

[@isimyok87]

alem in machine gun mode

[@ridhorbx9930]

ZVD win bro for me.

[@ngopimalam3364]

Yes, zvd 👍👍

[@TOMMyGUN_N]

5:28 react like that after crazy drop and two good rounds from zvd and vote after for alem is a crime.

[@eltoxa7554]

repeated rounds , if it for repeated rounds beatboxers could use their best stuff on a lot of competitions and win every of them

[@kweno1022]

@@eltoxa7554 can't be that big of a factor here since alem also used big parts of these rounds before

[@alperoner3837]

@@kweno1022 Zvd uses the same sounds, Alem uses the same technique. These are two different things, Alem is the building block of beatboxing.

[@jesusjavierrivera8698]

Traitor 😢😂

[@aydenmartin4927]

@@alperoner3837 - Whatever you say buddy. Don’t think you know the definition of a technique. In fact, if you’re going by that logic, I think it’s the other way around.

[@maniac_zulu6401]

5:27 favourite moment of the battle🔥

[@ngopimalam3364]

🔥🔥🔥

[@boys19-s8k]

​@@ngopimalam3364 indo bang?

[@andymiles2089]

I said it before but there is a serious problem with judging in beatboxing where the judges automatically vote for the guy with the bigger name regardless of performance. I'm seeing so many younger beatboxers getting screwed over because of bias towards the older guys.

[@Mr.Pro-aksh26]

It's not bias, it's the structure. ZVD spamming double voice in second round made it really really really weak and unoriginal to me, and weak.

[@tioneb61]

What you say makes no sense whatsoever for many reasons but let me give you one: if what you said was true then Alem should have won the whole thing this year, napom should have one the whole thing last year, footboxg should have won the whole thing the year before .... Napom should have won gbb last year then, I can go on and on. What you see on a battle video is far from what you feel when you're in the crowd, it's really easy to become an expert behind a screen. But crowd control, live power and sound precision are things you can only measure live. You can have your opinion of course but doubting the honesty of a judge panel full of champions is disrespectful AF, I'm not saying this to you only, I say this to all the "experts" out here. Last thing: was pacmax a big name before winning a bunch of stuff, NO, was zede famous before becoming world champ, no, was Pe4enkata a legendary name before building her legend, no........ Do you need to build your own legend before becoming a Real judge, yes! Peace

[@idontcare3234]

​@@Mr.Pro-aksh26Yeah because Alem spamming tktktktktk every round is so much better.

[@NAITHRIC]

@@idontcare3234I agree with you, this is how toxic Beatbox scene is

[@trachea7870]

​@@Mr.Pro-aksh26 alem has been doing rounds with the same structure and just spamming tech with no rhythm since quarters. Your argument is moot

[@randomvibes3756]

Scam of the year 😂🎉

[@HS10SLB]

Yes, Alem should’ve won the competition 😎

[@skr1869]

@@HS10SLB not this one buddy

[@pjpjsir5308]

absolute robbery, beatboxing has evolved and the judges need to evolve with it

[@florianstreb5145]

Alem is insane, but for me, ZVD won! ❤

[@thelfenix]

live it must've been different zvd got the vote from the only non-beatboxer in judge panel btw

[@ajesco]

Lol, Pepouni is also a Beatboxer.

[@Jesulien_Draw]

who do you call a non beatboxer ?

[@y0ugzbeatbox223]

@@ajesco please

[@BountyGeant]

@@ajesco HAHA

[@oxygencat6383]

pep is an old-school beatboxer dawg but I get what u mean

[@cgmadlife359]

Why do i feel some sort of biest decisions because of fame/friendship/whatever... even though the battle was awesome, no doubt about that, hands down to both ZVD and Alem, but still... dunno how to feel about it...

[@kaimcmahon3875]

Far from an expert but in my personal opinion there’s no way he won that , none the less both amazing beatboxers 👏❤️

[@RahmanBeat]

alem is supposed to be a judge, not a contestant so that things like this don't happen 😂

[@georgirusev1561]

Well he is not to blame for being such a good beatboxer, right haha

[@stabbx]

1:21 That counter line would hurt D-low by a lot 😂

[@Aarush]

nah sorry zvd...... we're sorry...its just rigged ma bro.....sorry❤

[@poedim_da_vipyem]

Yes

[@hidanbbx7593]

ZVD won clearly, such favoritism. There’s nothing new about Alem’s routines. Tkks are back in 2016 eras

[@iamD2]

And polyphonic noises r 5 years old if not older, tf u on about. Itsnothing new from him either.

[@Vderevne777]

Where did the attached comment from Alem go, in which he justified his victory? got scared and deleted it?

[@yunusbbx8497]

Ye i think so

[@nevertheless70]

how tf zvd aint take that.....

[@borisanthony]

2:09 how did bro's vocal cords not burst after hitting THAT INSANE HIGH PITCH?!!!

[@elrealpablo]

The second round of Alem it's astonishing. However, I can't understand why Alem won yet...

[@poedim_da_vipyem]

*Peponi, after such a refereeing error, you should not allow these judges to participate in battles anymore. All the people are unhappy with their decision. read the comments and you will understand everything yourself.*

[@tomasdinapoli1885]

Sure, people in the comments have better knowledge than zede pe4enkata or pacmax... It was all about timminig mistakes.

[@poedim_da_vipyem]

​we are not stupid, and more than a hundred ordinary people wrote that ZVD performed better. There are comments here from people who have been watching beatbox battles for over ten years, and we understand a lot about it

[@tomasdinapoli1885]

@@poedim_da_vipyem sure, watching, not competing at the highest level. Listen to ZVDs second round. Spits snares wherever, not alike, not strong. You may not like Tks, but its not about taste. They were Sharp, strong AND accurate. The best shot against Alem is to be as clean, as loud and original (what Alem lacks the most). And ZVD was none of them. (Two already known routines)

[@BountyGeant]

You're all so clueless. Pepouni is the bad judge here, and in no wayb he can tell the others how to analyze a performance. If the crowd could have voted, they'd vote for Alem too.

[@KarmaRinchenTamang]

Zvd had major tempo mistakes in first rounds.. it was even noticable to my untrained ears.. Zvd did amazing but compared to alem zvd had timing mistakes and relatively less croud control and low stage presence... Its battle with bloodshed not showcase with attractive flowers

[@asadisthis]

Poor judgement ZVD clear win ❤

[@LiuIan-iu9rn]

bruh how alem win???????????

[@mcsg298]

I don't know Even though ZVD took out his card in the second round

[@chillaxer8273]

It's rigged. They want a French finalist

[@Pinkguy6999]

Alem won cuz zvd spams and basically every round from zvdee sounda the same.

[@SGSCMC]

​@@Pinkguy6999 all of alem's beat are tkktkk

[@maxim_beatbox]

@@Pinkguy6999 Bro Alem is the one who spammed every round. The only round that sounded remotely different from his other ones was Tiger Shot, and even most of that was the same.

[@khalilhalloul7223]

When the majority are talking about how ZVD deserves to win, there is something wrong happening and you know what i mean

[@akbarru5533]

BRO ONE OF THESE TIMES THEY SHOULD LET THE CROWD DECIDE THE WINNER

[@Lyde]

I was there and I can tell you that it would have been Alem 😂

[@thecyborg120]

5:27 🥶 ZVD's drop🥵

[@tylercaudle2807]

Zvd gives me dlow energy.

[@dangerousgamer2771]

Nga what 😂

[@bakemono2205]

Nah

[@maxim_beatbox]

I see what you mean. He reminds me of younger D-low from like 2016-2017

[@ExceLLenteR71]

that's why I like ZVD, he's like new D-Low

[@antbbx3417]

I love alem and not taking credit from him BUT my goodness ZVD executed this battle 🔥 . He should have won I don’t understand

[@Gengar-2]

unpopular opinion but I actually think Alem beat Osis. But after this battle I really think the judges need to put more things into consideration. Sure Alem had the crowd but that doesnt mean his beatboxing was better, crowd control is just one thing in a battle and Alem had more things over Osis in their battle such as technicality and execution which is why I think he deserved to win that one. Btw I'm not a ZVD fanboy I voted for Stan in ZVD vs Stan and H1ppy in H1ppy vs ZVD

[@stitch_mus1c]

I can understand why a lot of people think ZVD won. It was a close battle in my opinion. Personally, I'd vote for Alem. I enjoyed his rounds more. Just a personal opinion though. I also want to add that I wasn't there live. Maybe my opinion would change if I heard it live, or maybe it wouldn't change.

[@flowride4184]

Yes! So many people want it to be about who's routine was harder to do. But it's well known (except in much of the beatbox community apparently) that technical skill is not the only part of the equation in a great musical performance.

[@hawi003]

This might be one of the best examples that judging needs to be a bit more objective.

[@handjibber6409]

Why are judges always so biased towards the French

[@alvickyprameswara4503]

There are many incidents like this, so don't be surprised.😂😂

[@tylercaudle2807]

Zvd deserved the win. Hands down. Alem always wins with his crowd control and technically. As a vet, why are you still still the same fast, fast? If you’re still going to compete then we should see come musicality. It’s just fast beats faster beats and then if you’re at a disadvantage, faster beats. Bring us something new. I love you Alem, I’ve watched you since your battle with Skiz, bring us something new and not so fast? Maybe?

[@brandonbeckargote5095]

when you are a judge you vote for zvd and that's it We should not give less value to world-class beatboxers, the effort and dedication of both opponents is appreciated, respect for both of them and for you

[@ZotaBbx]

And who are you to tell him wich style he should bring to the stage? Im saying this with all the respect! But everyone has the decisión to make whatever they want

[@Benji-ld7vn]

i mean, there was musicality, there was some placement beats over fast beats, his second roud was totally new, just his style. although i agree zvd could have won, alem was definitely deserving also

[@Pinkguy6999]

Alem tkked zvdee for good thank god

[@jesusjavierrivera8698]

This is a bad joke. Idk how judges can do that without thinking about the fans noticing

[@christopherdunn3094]

Great battle from 2 fantastic beatboxers. Glad i had the privilege of enjoying it.

[@heneral_bbx4536]

Bro zvd destroyed alem here!

[@hiroeajx.3518]

I love them both but I don't think that alem should've win that

[@ccpood]

ZVD easily won for me

[@levinutter3026]

This is actually absurd. First round of ZVD's was the craziest thing that I've heard in a really long time! And Alem sang let it go... and won?!?

[@ely9610]

Biggest robbery ever

[@MatheusreviwseVA]

ZVD's INFINITELY Superior Round 1

[@lilkrabbypatty]

Agreed, ZVD's 1st round was so much better lol

[@kaamis9070]

i think zvd should be win this

[@Pinkguy6999]

L

[@7XL9]

zvd smoked him

[@Pinkguy6999]

Alem tkked him

[@absence9443]

@@Pinkguy6999 alem tkks every round, Pacmax would probably never vote against him regardless of whether he messes up

[@thedarknight924]

@@absence9443 You'd sadly be wrong bud, but think whatever you want, if we'r not juges nor pros there are reasons

[@danielupchurch6024]

What a mockery of the beatbox community This wasn't even close, I love Alem, but was out classed in this battle.

[@j-hillbeatbox9880]

I'm a big fan of alem, but in this battle i'll go for ZVD. he so sick of musicality and technicality drop🔥😁

[@AJLikesCats]

Check the comments: ✅ ZVD is the people's favorite: ✅

[@Ascendancy-]

ZVD definitely took it

[@System-r4z6o]

For me, feel like ZVD took this battle (by a narrow margin). (I didn't be there, so there may be things which I don't know on video. ) 5:09(5:25) 6:08(6:29) Sick Big up to both. Much love from Japan

[@chtan00]

we need round 3

[@luchokbmx]

zvd win, cool battle

[@clarityml4221]

Zvd should've won this.. His both rounds were solid 😢this is not fair

[@randguy696]

Alem is a legend but he is stucked in oldschool technic battle style

[@blazebbx3173]

BIGGEST ROBBERY EVER

[@Pinkguy6999]

Biggest justice served in history

[@Gengar-2]

Mark Martin vs Villain

[@leoncer4719]

@@Gengar-2 Seconded.

[@StamNickolas]

ZVD won this. He had the pitch in tact, new sounds, a much bigger variety of sounds, cleanliness in all of his sounds and he has his own original style which is quite rare in the scene how it is right now. Alem, as a master of technicality and crowd pleasing, here he did nothing new. The variety of his sounds was very small and of basic level, whilst ZVD's sounds are much more complex and difficult to make. The judges seemed to undeniably choose the crowd pleasing and "battle" behaviour of Alem over ZVD's pros, but the level of his characheristics in these 2 rounds were undeniably much more important and worthy than Alems'. This analysis comes from 14 years of beatboxing knowledge and from a former beatboxer as myself (former Greek Vice Champ). Congrats ZVD! Keep up with the new styles and sounds! And remember, pitch is the most important thing if you want to move the beatbox scene steps further..!

[@TheOtisUpham]

ZVD WON THIS.

[@graysharborrealtor]

Dude they just picked Alem because of reputation not because of the battle, ZVD definitely won…

[@vega973]

Why is the beatbox community in the comments so toxic nowadays 😒

[@antbbx3417]

How are we toxic for stating an opinion ? Honestly it’s more than an opinion at this point . It’s facts💯

[@lilkrabbypatty]

ZVD's 1st round was so clean 🔥🔥🔥 finna put that on repeat prolly a hundred times rq lol, really close battle, personally got zvd winning though

[@gustavholmbergknutsson7783]

No disrespect to any of the competitors, but I find it hard to believe that Alem wins this battle if both came in to it with equal reputation

[@luchinoreacts3771]

Honestly when pepouni gets involved i will not expect clarity of judgement or honesty into it. ZVD was clearly better on execution and musicality and on the technical part. If we want bbx to get on the next stage we need to start to recognize that old guard can be judged not for their past but in the present. Big up for both of them but this one was embarassing in a competion.

[@meh5300]

Feels like theres too much bias for old school stuff, It just feels outdated and not even good to listen to when spamming tkKs

[@bloxxup3574]

ZVD shoulda won this for sure good job on alem but ZVD just was more creative with his stuff and a lot more interested compared to the TkK spam of alem

[@kamuibouncy2]

I think ZVD won by a clear margin. This judging reminds me of GBB-23 in many ways

[@台灣鐵道熱愛者]

ZVD🔥🔥🔥

[@JubjubChangnoi]

MR ALEM THIS IS 2024.. FANS NEEDED NEW BEAT AND MORE.... WHY U STUCK BEAT BRO LEGEND NO IMPROVE.... GG ALEM.. legenda beat stuck

[@sanjayalase2410]

uhh.. how come judges?? Zvd should win for this battle. big questions.

[@Bigboy3005]

I like Alem but for me ZVD Win

[@mgkgtpwpngmgtqt]

ネタのクオリティはZVDが上回ってたように思うけど、2ラウンド目の音の入りがイマイチなのが響いたかな？

[@yyy_930]

自分もzvdの方が完成度で上回っていると思ったのですが、敗因は何だったんでしょう🤔

[@reo6446]

仰る通り、私も2ラウンド目のあのミスが目立った印象です。 多少の改変はあれど彼の知名度を押し上げるキッカケとなったルーティンでのミスですからね… 審査員がBNBATTLES 2022での完全系を耳にしている場合、それだけマイナスの印象が強いのかもしれません。

[@eightstr5570]

個人的な感想ですけど ZVDちょっとこのラウンド擦り過ぎかなって思います… ジャッジももう慣れているっていうか

[@oxygencat6383]

i wonder how this sounded live, cuz I find it crazy that only pepouni voted for ZVD, must be some Alem stage power I don’t know about since I’ve never been to a battle irl LMAO

[@justin9181]

DUDE ZVD WON 🥇 THIS small final was the real final in this championship

[@stoneisaacs7790]

French bias back at it again!

[@trachea7870]

It seems that ZVD is indeed the people’s favorite 😂

[@canaldobyl5869]

Round 1: Draw Round 2: ZVD I'm a fan of Alem, but realistically ZVD was superior in the second round.

[@betadev-ny1wr]

the audience and judges seems stongly biased towards alem

[@ansagankuzembai9674]

Alem has respect from the world of beatboxing because of this he won😂😂

[@zhevkun4798]

Zvd win

[@czDanny]

For me it was ZVD who win.

[@HorizonPDX]

Talk about favouritism 🤣🤣, need new judges so bad. Awful awful judges here

[@Boredomfreedom]

LoL if you france you win

[@Yuri-qc4ck]

This reminds me of Elisii... 😂😢

[@MANOS2063]

Respect for pepouni vote - - - >

[@deadxbeats2231]

I love the judges and the contestants dearly, but how in gods green magical planet did Alem win???? I mean ig he has amazing crowd control and tech but he beatboxed FROZEN what what in the world 😭

[@Futo210_MCJE]

ZVDの新しいルーティーンが欲しいよぉ…💕

[@almamateralmamater5838]

Zvd win absolutely win