For over 300 years spaniards were fear swords masters until today their skills and technics were the founders of modern esgrima. Only the gun stop the Spanish hegemony in the swords mastery. There were also enocunter with Japanes samurais that were impress and defeat by the spaniard in the filipines islands.
@jorgemejiasp7 жыл бұрын
Search Cagayan Battles.
@sparhez35986 жыл бұрын
In Cagayan were no japanese army but wako rayders maybe with some ronin, and arquebuses did most of fights. But surf they kick their ass off.
@bypyros19336 жыл бұрын
Sparhez they were pirates and in many cases they were ronin, but of couree they weren't japanese armies. Why woule they fight the spaniards? They even had an embassy near Sevilla. The spaniards whose surname is Japón (japan in spanish) are descendants of the samurais of this embassy who mixed with spanish women.
@enovos31386 жыл бұрын
@@bypyros1933 he's probably just referring to their numbers mate
@bypyros19336 жыл бұрын
@@enovos3138 then he's still wrong. Most of the figt was with swords and pikes. Sure, they used arquebuses, butbthey needed a formation to keep the enemy at bay. It took a long time to recharge bullets and they weren't very accurate. Also, the fight on land was melee.
@BernasLL3 жыл бұрын
The only beautiful non-suicidal fencing you'll see in Swordfish lol.
@yukiminsan3 жыл бұрын
pretty much yeah
@GlwaddynionForest Жыл бұрын
still suicidal lol
@wilowhisp9 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and lively display! wish I could study Destreza in Spain!
@Fishhunter20148 жыл бұрын
¿Cómo hacen destreza diferir de otras esgrimas? Particulamente, los sistemas usado en Italia y Francia.
@Fishhunter20148 жыл бұрын
***** Perdón. Me español es mal. :b ¿Tú hables íngles?
@Fishhunter20148 жыл бұрын
***** Sorry about that again. Like I said my spanish sucks, I was just trying to practice. What I meant to say was how does the Spanish school of rapier fencing differ from other European styles like French or Italian.
@Tuchulu8 жыл бұрын
Spanish fencing differs from Italian and French fencing in many things, but I think that the main difference is the footwork and the stance, which is more upright, and it doesn't encourage lounges.
@Tuchulu8 жыл бұрын
But I don't practice any of those martial arts, so I may be completely wrong
@aparicio1313 жыл бұрын
El arte de “la destreza” el arma letal de los viejos tercios españoles!!!! Un orgullo ser español y haber podido estudiar mi pasado y saber que ese arte maravilloso se utilizo por mis antepasados. Orgulloso de ser español, madrileño y de chamberi... gracias dios por ese regalo
@ishzarkklyon95902 жыл бұрын
Apréndelo también, solo cuesta unos pocos años de dedicación y una vez puedas usar el montante ya es algo impresionante que enseñar a tus hijos para que conozcan su historia
@elsalondearmas50136 жыл бұрын
Congratulation for this video from Weapons Hall in Spain.
@youremybiggestfan4 жыл бұрын
Saludos desde Suecia..
@Yaponnk7 жыл бұрын
Rapier, the translation of "Espada Ropera"
@nikvett5 жыл бұрын
I think it's better ''Estoque''.
@OstherPvP4 жыл бұрын
I think rapier its "esgrima" one sword with Espada Ropera
@nikvett4 жыл бұрын
@@OstherPvP It's confusing, 'estoque' and 'espada ropera' are the same, maybe
@hobetto48174 жыл бұрын
@@OstherPvP Nunca pense que te veria por aqui! El mundo es un pañuelo.
@hobetto48174 жыл бұрын
@@nikvett "Ropera" has two cutting edges, and refers to a family of swords, used by the armies. "Estoque" can have cutting edges or can be either a long spike, and refers to a subfamily of swords that are almost civil weapons, used to kill the bull in "toros", also the sword for the "Descabello" is a "estoque". If you look earlier in the history, the spanish term "estoque" is used to refer any long sword.
@juancarlosvallelibre93774 жыл бұрын
Buenísimo
@jairoramirez76675 жыл бұрын
Go to 5:10
@josepavon68286 ай бұрын
Very ❤
@algomez85635 жыл бұрын
I thought no manuals of verdadera destreza survived. How was it revived? Did dutch manuals were use?
@Jonobos5 жыл бұрын
We only have one complete treatise of vulgar esgrima. There are multiple of verdadera destreza. Carranza, Several from Pacheco, Rada, Viedma to name a few.
@yuribezmenovthegreat47054 жыл бұрын
@@Jonobos please tell me more where find these books i cant find they complete, for exaple pachecos book dont have the deployable page that shows you a great representation of circle ans arm angles
@ishzarkklyon95902 жыл бұрын
@@yuribezmenovthegreat4705 I think that's Carranza's, I have both so I'll end up checking sooner or later
@wildrangeringreen Жыл бұрын
@@yuribezmenovthegreat4705 Wiktenhauer, and you can search the actual titles in Google, like "Nobleza de La Espada" by Francisco Lorenz de Rada (there are also some free to read English translations of many of them out there (and even more for sale), if you can't read Spanish/old Portuguese (they are pretty similar in the 16th and 17th centuries). TBH, Rada's work is probably the most in-depth, complete work in La Destreza Verdadera tradition (and has quite a few illustrations), and as one of the last major ones, is a capstone, of sorts, for the science. La Escrima Comun, or La Destreza Vulgar really is limited to snippets by others referencing it, or in the 1599 work by Domingo Luis Godinho (it's in old Portuguese) on it. Once you understand the philosophy behind La Destreza, the way you practice it just sort of comes naturally. That's why there tends to be less "plays" in most of the books on it, than makes up the majority of other tradition's manuals (aka: if he does this, you do that, if you do this, he may do that, ect). What plays/exercises that are there are really only there for illustration purposes to help make the concept easier to understand. 1. Defend yourself at all times (you have an obligation to god, yourself, and your people (family, friends, community) to preserve your life by any means necessary) (the survival and wellbeing of your opponent, while important, is a very distant second) 2. Stand in a natural, relatively upright, posture; and avoid any position that limits you to only one or two actions. 3. We only really strike the opponent in order to prevent them from attacking us, it's not because we're out to kill the other guy, necessarily. Ideally, both parties go home unscathed, or one person goes home unscathed and the other dies/is maimed and unable to continue (no double kills). 4.ONLY enter the "danger zone" to strike if you have secured a relatively sure way in AND out of danger (the Atajo) 5. Manipulate time through the angles created by footwork (combining traversing, passing, advancing/retreating steps, and the cadence of your steps) and bladework (make it so the opponent has to take more time to come around to being able to defend himself or attack you than you need to attack him and retreat safely) (the Atajo). 6. If the opponent displaces your sword, use footwork and cuts to get back behind your sword, putting it between the opposing blade and yourself. That's pretty much it. As long as you allow those principles to direct your actions, it's pretty likely you're practicing La Destreza. It's a sound and simple system, to the point where even the anti-rapierist, George Silver ("Paradoxes of Defense", 1599), could only really detract from it with regard to the length of the swords (and the issues resulting from that) commonly in use by practitioners of La Destreza in his time
@josepavon68286 ай бұрын
😊
@pepiyobudoka54866 жыл бұрын
Donde puedo aprender verdadera destreza?
@CapitanRastrero6 жыл бұрын
Hay varios libron que puedes comprar que hablan sobre la filosofia y la práctica de la verdadera Destreza
@pepiyobudoka54866 жыл бұрын
@Marcos Alonso ok muchas gracias
@tho2075 жыл бұрын
asociación española de esgrima antigua. hay escuelas en varias ciudades
@alejandro83425 жыл бұрын
En Castelleno.
@javiereastwood232011 ай бұрын
Eso es en el Colegio San Agustín de Madrid?
@daniels.m.656711 ай бұрын
No. Fue en Suecia, Swordfish en el año 2015
@benjamindiaz3797 жыл бұрын
skallagrim?
@2ade_co5 жыл бұрын
Me too
@FreakishWizardthegamingwizard8 жыл бұрын
is this a new warframe texture pack
@alma_muerta27954 ай бұрын
VIVA LA HISPANIDAD
@AndresGonzalezSarmiento7 жыл бұрын
Mr Pacheco dedicated one chapter to the good form to be stand and guard, the espace between the feeds and correct movements of this.. and excuse me but I can't see nothing of Pacheco wrote..
@andrewk.55755 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Spanish fencing should be constantly stable and fully upright where as these guys were breaking the posture about once every five seconds because they freak out and don't know how to execute a proper desvío. Also, they should NOT be trying to "control the center line" as the commentator claims at 6:08 if either of these people are supposed to be a Spanish Diestro not a Chinese Shifu. Controlling the center line is a Wing Chun concept that has nothing to do with Western fencing, especially not a system like Destreza which, as the commentators also point out, is all about circular movement and therefore avoiding linear attacks!
@Jonobos5 жыл бұрын
You two should try studying the treatises instead of repeating second hand knowledge.
@ishzarkklyon95902 жыл бұрын
@@Jonobos I have the treatises, now what?
@alejandro83425 жыл бұрын
Si es Destreza, ¿porque tengo que escuchar esto en inglés?
@modoanonimo95895 жыл бұрын
"Verdadera Destreza" es el nombre del deporte, así como nosotros llamamos al football o soccer al deporte inglés sabiendo que se traduciría "balón-pié". Espero que mi respuesta te haya sido útil.
@OstherPvP4 жыл бұрын
porque es ver un arte explicado por un extranjero de habla inglesa..
@arasolisfolkcelta89294 жыл бұрын
Karate explicado solo en japones entonces?
@OstherPvP4 жыл бұрын
@@arasolisfolkcelta8929 el idioma es lo de menos si sabe los conceptos, estoy con tu punto de vista!
@unionjack38363 жыл бұрын
Palurdo
@OlderGambler2 жыл бұрын
не понимаю в чем прикол,это же просто дуйлянь по европейски
@ishzarkklyon95902 жыл бұрын
It's the Spanish style of fencing that dominated Europe for decades. It was not wise fighting an Italian, French, Portuguese or especially Spanish fencer.
@Keima_Katsuragi. Жыл бұрын
Не знаю, мне дестреза импонирует больше всего среди школ фехтования