SWT Championship LCQ WQ - Marss (ZSS) Vs. Tilde (Falco) SSBU Ultimate Tournament

[@vgbootcamp]

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[@malcolmfletcher2659]

11:57 My favorite part of this set is when they used the forbidden PowerPoint Slide technique

[@mccubbinash]

Underrated comment

[@estabravo]

Marss has a Tilde problem but Tilde doesn’t have a Marss problem lol

[@shionwandering]

Marss has a birb problem

[@jannomeeuwessen4886]

That's the dumbest comments I've ever seen lol Nah forreal if you have a problem with a certain player, then that players automatically doesn't have that problem vice versa lol

[@mlour6110]

@@jannomeeuwessen4886 drink some water dude

[@ChrisM-vz4pe]

@@jannomeeuwessen4886 It’s called sense of humor smh…

[@ryanparker8966]

@@jannomeeuwessen4886 nah both players can have a problem dealing with each other, its not just one player all the time

[@its_truema_6754]

Who remembers the match online and Marss said "you trash, see me offline" well here it is

[@RandomNirvanaSXE]

No one cares about tilde he's a nobody xD

[@euthymicdream]

@@RandomNirvanaSXE a nobody who beat marss multiple times and placed 7th in ssc sure. don't sleep on tilde

[@estabravo]

@@euthymicdream Marss followers lol

[@euthymicdream]

@@estabravo fr tho. i remember when marss and tilde fought in online swt and marss' chat complained about falco having frame 2 jab and thus being op when zss has a frame 1 jab lmao

[@jadenlong1538]

He already beat marss at smash con a couple months ago

[@freeze_electric]

Damn Tilde really got dropped by TSM mid-game that’s crazy 😔

[@Scythra]

NPT back on the menu boys!

[@waddles6805]

NPT came in clutch

[@lagspike7763]

Yo Brandon how do these young link players lose bro your character loses 0 matchups HOW

[@freeze_electric]

@@lagspike7763 MAN SHUT UP LMAOOO

[@lagspike7763]

@@freeze_electric lolll

[@SaturnSnapple]

“Pro smash player DESTROYS content creator with UTILT and BAIR” would be a perfect thumbnail name

[@shionwandering]

"I prefer the air."

[@larrygynch1249]

Nah he was up 2 1 at one point. It's not bad. He's sponsored for a reason.

[@radimakesmusic]

Weirdos in the comments hating Marss for his streamer persona when I’m just trying to enjoy some smashy bros. Amazing set all around. Falco looks godlike in the hands of Tilde

[@elias5304]

"Streamer persona " that's a nice way to say arrogant

[@Sancnea]

@@elias5304 He literally does it for the content. If you think all streamers act the same way on-screen and off-screen idk what to tell you. Even on stream he switches between being 'arrogant' and chilling out.

[@HD-nb7kw]

Tilde plays how every Falco should be playing.

[@elias5304]

@@Sancnea don't think his whole thing about top players privileges for registration (only for him to dq of said registration without telling anyone) is "for content" lol

[@Sancnea]

@@elias5304 That's definitely a bad take of his, but Leo also agreed with that take to some extent but he's never mentioned when people bring up this topic. People only went in on Marss because of this combined with his behaviour.

[@libenhagos9335]

Tilde Stocks rising, Mars stocks plumeting.

[@lillierose3958]

I don’t know that’s the M&M company

[@ASMRStrike1]

@jme yessir

[@mattkase8880]

It’s really hard to watch Marss lose in this manner. It’s like watching a roulette wheel. For a stock or two he plays out of his mind and then chokes when it counts. I hope he gets out of the slump

[@fupalover]

He's been struggling since offline came back cause he didn't grind during Quarantine.

[@Ithaca-vv5dy]

Maybe tilde is just a better player.

[@waddles6805]

Better player alert

[@redfieldwong717]

Nope everyone else is just getting better. He needs to stop putting other players down just because they put him on a pedestal

[@calebw8189]

It's pretty much a set thing that he won't. He just has different priorities now, so he won't be able to get to where he was before. Then again, he was always to cocky and annoying for me to shed much of a tear over.

[@zake64]

Spoiler: It's honestly kind of sad to see. Marss used to win these every day of the week and just chokes in these situations now. It's becoming more and more of a consistent thing. Idk if it's from ZSS nerfs, him focusing on content creation, or both. Obviously he's still a great player, but he has nowhere near the dominance he did pre-quarantine.

[@DrWavy-fq2qk]

Yah it’s low key heartbreaking. Hope he either picks up a secondary or eventually returns to form next year. Tho the ZSS nerfs haven’t helped much in getting back to top 10

[@SG-_-245]

He’s just washed now his only practice is beating elite smashers of course he’s bad

[@lUnstable]

Or maybe others are just improving? Tilde was actually playing out of his mind

[@DairInNeutral]

@@DrWavy-fq2qk A secondary? For Falco? ZSS wins that matchup handedly. It’s probably Marss focusing on content creation and Tilde just outplaying him in general

[@jessie1078]

I mean he still qualified. Tilde is a great player, think you're overreacting here

[@jahmairtrott4635]

I'm not understanding the marss hate here. Y'all call him washed for losing to good players lol. And y'all hate him for being a content creator and grinding that out when it literally makes him more money than WINNING these events lmao

[@waddles6805]

Idk man the prize pool for the winner is 150,000 I highly doubt marss makes more money for streaming

[@redfieldwong717]

No it's only his overinflated ego is the problem

[@Bladieblah]

Leo makes way more money than Marss just from winnings, Tweek, Maister and Spargo as well and it's not like they don't have any stream revenue, not a very convincing argument but not surprised to see this one coming from Marss fanboys

[@syunafrost351]

Ppl don’t like his persona and trash talking he got humbled and u over here doing damage control what are u one of his twitch moderators lmfao “why are ppl being so mean to him?” Cuz he calls a lot of players trash on his channel who aren’t as good as him.

[@stephaniecurry45]

@@redfieldwong717 lmao

[@zacharyh5419]

Marss better focus the fuck up soon or his career is kaputz

[@tdawg490]

Or he can just make a shit ton on money steaming and whatever panda gives him and do tournaments on the side 😂

[@AlureDivine]

Feel like a lot of people underrate Falco, character is very strong tbh

[@HD-nb7kw]

This is what is meant by the Falco agenda, an agenda to say Falco is worse than he actually is.

[@Epicness787]

@@HD-nb7kw yup

[@facade5050]

sucks at approaching he's Cloud tier

[@10cesc4.]

We eating good boys. Falco agenda

[@xavierpeele4048]

Early, this is nice, its quiet. Good luck to both of these players!

[@sifumig7492]

Thank you for not spoiling like every other vid

[@Scythra]

That's the spirit!

[@zanedurante3709]

8:28 was so good by marss, sad there was no splash screen though

[@TritoXD]

Yeah game didnt calculate that because he did not reach the blastzone cuz of the knock back but the momentum if you watch closely he doesnt die to the knock back you can see him a short moment flipping out of the hitstun but the momentum dragged him then into the blastzone

[@xxvolcomxx56]

Marss did pretty well for a content creator tbh

[@ASMRStrike1]

Marss was winning that first game but got buffer system'd

[@stealthskater66]

Three years later that’s not a valid complaint. Gotta adapt. Every other player has that same potential too not just marss

[@user-lh7dq6wn1d]

@@stealthskater66 It’s a valid complaint if its lasted a length of 3 years. Hypothetically, am I supposed to adapt to a character that can’t lose stocks for 3 years or complain?

[@mattkase8880]

@@stealthskater66 bruh that’s flawed logic, just because something exists for awhile doesn’t mean it isn’t a problem. Like for instance when people drop out of boost kick, it’s been an issue for all three years, you gonna say ‘just adapt’ to that?

[@ner9469]

Nah he was throwing for content

[@ASMRStrike1]

@@stealthskater66 No lol, tell me you know nothing about the game ffs

[@DrWavy-fq2qk]

Tsm stealing content creators from panda lol

[@nicstead3820]

Top pros being salty about losing online and then also losing offline are like when cod players get destroyed and tell the winners they are trash. Accept you got beat lol.

[@mattkase8880]

Well there is a valid complaint to be made about wifi, as long as it’s offline I’d take the L, but there’s stuff my friends can only get away with online lol

[@datlego3673]

I s it just me or does Tilde look like Andrew Callaham from Channel 5?

[@n10tan1gam1]

6:34 it’s just funny to me how big Falco is

[@BeatDropperPS3]

A great way to start my morning. Drinking my coffee and watching Mars get bodied lmao

[@redfieldwong717]

Here! Here!☺

[@freeze_electric]

TSM MARSS VS TSM TILDE THIS IS HYPE

[@alanm966]

Huh, I didn't notice that Marss left panda and now is in TSM

[@tacticalpotato7923]

He didn't, tilde isn't tsm either, their ui just glitched for a bit

[@robertomacias3368]

TSM and still wears Panda merch

[@garorade]

Why are they both tsm

[@damarihanson3876]

Ah the TSM thing I think is a meme. Production team had some players with the TSM tag by accident and it was basically like “If you playing like a God, you can keep the tag as an honourary member of TSM” lmao For reference for the birth of the meme, see “Alice (Roy) vs Sonix”

[@stephaniecurry45]

@@damarihanson3876 the production team made a lot of errors but can fault them because they had so many players and matches to keep up with

[@MissingScrew27]

Tilde is evolving and i love it

[@yngstunna101]

My 2 mains battling it out

[@Mars-pw4iw]

Señor Cutscene

[@alexiswiftrock]

Same

[@berse22]

I wonder if the last utilt bair is killing because of underdog boost. Both didn't expect the hit to kill and 100% midstage on kalos is damn early.

[@lagspike7763]

Falco back air is like ganon knock back and it’s zss trust me it would’ve killed

[@bleuemoone8710]

ZSS has to work so hard in this game

[@hectora.martinez483]

As a zzs main, i think the same

[@LushSSB]

As a Sheik main, welcome to the club

[@_Uptilt]

The timing windows on her aerials are so small and require ridiculous precision, especially for hitting pancaking characters, not to mention her jank where people sometimes fall out of moves. I want to like her so bad, but when I'm looking for a CC fighter with a good spacing game, Wolf and Joker are so much more consistent. Not saying she's bad ofc, ZSS is still really strong, but there are many things that add up to her feeling rather inconsistent.

[@Dc-pm2hi]

As a sonic main when trying to kill, welcome to the club

[@Bladieblah]

She doesn't, she kills at 50%, has the safest neutral in the game with Z-air and crazy mobility, plenty strong kill moves that are fast and safe (f-air/b-air), amazing juggle game as well. No disadvantage because down-b, stop complaining and git gud

[@TheNarutofreak782]

Damn seeing a lot of Mars hate. Anyways they both played great mars just gotta get revved up on the offline play 💪🏼

[@jacvag5801]

He stays choking, he just ain't the same 🙁

[@Bladieblah]

Where do you so Marss hate? The only thing I've seen is people disappointed and some people calling him out on his trash talk after Tilde eliminated him out of SWT the first time, but I wouldn't call that hate

[@syunafrost351]

Yes he’s being “hated” on after shit talking tilde that makes total sense

[@stephaniecurry45]

@@Bladieblah exactly. I swear we think the same

[@dominicberger2917]

Bro no commentator said any thing about 7:55 the footstool back ai punish like?!? 😳

[@Velereonics]

Starting to believe this Agenda bs

[@Noba46688]

When did marss join Tsm?

[@Frilleon]

People calling Marss washed are absolutely ridiculous. He’s still a top-five player period

[@MoeMunnie023]

Top 5?? No. Top 10 maybe.

[@Sky_Firez]

I'm a huge Marss fan, and even I don't think I can agree with that at the moment.

[@lordwaluigi8535]

No way he's top 5

[@Beardo0529]

@@MoeMunnie023 maybe 10-15 top player. There’s so many people grinding and improving so much right now. He’s not the same Marss when he beat Leo. He needs to bring that ZSS back. Hard to explain but there’s just something off with his ZSS right now. Still a great player so I’m not saying he’s washed up or anything

[@denismitrovic1860]

He's no way in the top 5. I love Marss, but thats just wrong. I'd say top 15, and maybe if you want to argue top 10

[@zachcherry3303]

That down smash into down air was such a marss play

[@shoutenry]

Wow, Marss looking like he's a rust emporium this tourney. I swear he's got so many unforced errors and has to play like a god to come back from them.

[@69metersbelow25]

He doesn't practice that often as he should be.You can see it in his gameplay.Its like he is relying on luck to win.Dissapointing because his skill potential is up there with tweek and mkleo of he applies himself

[@thelordoftheweebs9501]

Marss still has a chance to qualify?

[@thebass548]

Yup he’s in losers now

[@gunslinger9786]

he qualified

[@VishnuKumar-nt5oy]

@@gunslinger9786 Wait I thought top 8 qualify. I thought the match against Cosmos will decide if he qualifies

[@gunslinger9786]

@@VishnuKumar-nt5oy nope, everyone who made it to top 8 qualified, including cosmos

[@waddles6805]

@@gunslinger9786 who is in top 8

[@mckeonlaws1243]

Falco Agenda be like: ahh yes nothing to see her, just a mid tier bird, don't look at the frame 1 reflector or multi hit aerials

[@HD-nb7kw]

Forget about the frame 10 spike which combos into 70+ percent.

[@Dc-pm2hi]

It's actually a frame two reflector. I believe in falco because I used to main him but I still don't think he's like top tier or as good as joker/pythra, but he's defo high tier and not mid tier like people say lmao.

[@mckeonlaws1243]

@@Dc-pm2hi I agree, he's not top 5 and probably not top 10 but he's still way better than most people think

[@naindoza]

@@Dc-pm2hi It reflects frame 1. Hitbox comes out frame 5.

[@eiko3886]

Marss is in TSM? I thought he was in Panda Global

[@benzen5190]

I’ve been watching everything smash ultimate related since the launch of this game and have only seen a tech like this once 16:10.

[@benzen5190]

It was way in the beginning where Zero was doing instant walljumps with Cloud, never knew it was possible with Falco too

[@elias5304]

Side b?

[@benzen5190]

@@elias5304 no the tech about 3 seconds later

[@QwertYuiop-yt3uh]

NY looking strong so far with Zomba, tilde , and dabuz performing well

[@mandalorianhunter1]

And people are still thinking ZSS beats Falco lol

[@JoelGarcia-lu3tw]

Well she does, but Marss doesn't play her optimally because he's stubborn as hell.

[@DairInNeutral]

You can lose a winning matchup multiple times. ESAM sure as hell has

[@Anonymous-tt1cv]

@@DairInNeutral hehe

[@mattkase8880]

@@DairInNeutral fatality stay winning lol

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@DairInNeutral this has nothing to do with that

[@pikapower98]

I love seeing Falco win

[@SirHammyLXXXIV]

The sheer concentration is insane

[@57somo]

Bro zss is holding marss back so bad. like my guy wins 80% of neutral interactions but unless he nair flip kicks at 30-40% it's next to impossible to find a kill before 100%. i feel like if he just ran his snake or grinded sora hed be back to being 10 ten easy

[@stephaniecurry45]

He definitely is not winning 80% of neutral interactions. And also, his character is supposed to win neutral more just by design because of zss movement and safe moves lmaooo

[@stephaniecurry45]

He should play mythra

[@p_morty]

The Falco Agenda👀

[@koda1778]

I kinda feel like Tikde won off of a bit of luck. He's not as good with Falco as I've seen other players be. From the couple of videos i've watched hin, he rarely goes for anything off stage other than a forward air, always letting Marss get back to ledge. He rarely throws any smash attacks or uses the reflector. Now I can't say much since I don't currently own the game and would get whupped easily, but I feel like using some of the above things would help better him. 15:58 See, he needs more of this.

[@DeemerAV]

This is not the first time Tilde has beat Marss. If you see him doing or not doing specific things, you can be sure there is method to it, he's the most successful Falco player out there for a reason

[@koda1778]

@KeeravaL Surprise to me.

[@koda1778]

@KeeravaL I only recently started watching Smash videos again a few days ago. I was just going off of the few videos I've seen of his gameplay. It seems he struggles against ZSS somewhat.

[@timothyballen7636]

Trust me he's the best ever . Him not going off stage is safe tournament play . Falco's recovery is exploitable and stage control is more important

[@timothyballen7636]

His Falco is the most optimized we've seen since launch . As a Falco main, Tilde is extremely impressive and she backs it up with tournament results which no one else has done

[@tannerbowles8327]

PLEASE DO TIME NO SPOILERS!!!!

[@tnsxpm]

literally lost all my vgbucks on this

[@mkale1749]

As a zss main I cringed at 12:31 when tilde just went through her up smash and killed Marss off of it, such garbage. Can’t believe this character got nerfed, and in such detrimental ways too

[@mcrsmash8319]

Everyone in these comments acting like tilde some pushover smh, he’s top 10 in the world

[@voodooedits785]

He’s not top ten top 25

[@ASMRStrike1]

He's not top 10 lol

[@Sancnea]

If Tilde is top 10 there are 15-25 players in top 10.

[@Dc-pm2hi]

As a tilde fan even I can't agree, he's fucking goated but not even close to top ten in the world. Maybe top 30 in the world or something like that.

[@mcrsmash8319]

I meant the United states for everyone responding to me

[@Noba46688]

Nvm. Turns out the esports teams were fucked by whoever wrote them in- they’ve been fixed now.

[@syunafrost351]

I like seeing marss lose sometimes the kid can be too cocky on KZbin and talks a lot of shit about other players who aren't as good as him.

[@vishg5148]

Imagine thinking that's cocky

[@AtlasSaves]

@@vishg5148 it is though. That's like his whole gimmick on KZbin. Granted he's probably just doing it for character but he really does basically just call everyone trash lmao.

[@tdawg490]

Imagine missing the whole joke 😭

[@mattkase8880]

Pretty sure it’s a persona my guy

[@SG-_-245]

@@mattkase8880 izanagi or Arsene

[@JamestheKilljoy]

It is always a good day when I can watch Marss get eliminated from a tourney.

[@22jdawgjb]

Even tho he didn’t get eliminated and qualified for SWT 😂😂 🤡

[@JamestheKilljoy]

@@22jdawgjb wait for it...

[@22jdawgjb]

@@JamestheKilljoy I mean he did get eliminated in the SWT, but still qualified for it thanks to the LCQ

[@redfieldwong717]

@@22jdawgjb Wait for it....

[@dubudub876]

im upset

[@TheEmeraldTyrant]

Did.. falco reflect zair? Or did zair simply bounce off of reflects hitbox lol that was funny looking

[@CrossoverFan4life]

Mars may have a Falco problem.

[@Barca864]

Humillación

[@benbarker1258]

Tilde best falco

[@Dontannoyme34894]

Marss needs to pick up joker or at least an actual consistent character because zero suit is zero viable at this point…

[@toobikills6766]

Leffen was right…

[@guntons7105]

This comment is probably gonna age poorly but imagine marss wins swtc after all the unnecessary hate he’s getting

[@redfieldwong717]

Nope

[@malachistone88]

Let's go Tilde!!!

[@ringoyuri9387]

ファルコニキうま

[@mocast3407]

Marss downgraded for surrreee

[@13wayz70]

I like the haircut

[@Shireke01]

Fasilito con S de Simple

[@lay-lowandsmash1519]

Marss hype.

[@RandomNirvanaSXE]

Underdog boost was turned on in this tournament. Marss takes the first stock each match which made him lose because someone cheated and changed the games settings. Tilde won because of that, no question about it. Sucks for you marss that you got bullshitted out of a chance to win because someone changed the settings of the game

[@stephaniecurry45]

The hell are you talking about

[@maizegod6840]

damn marss

[@flippahs]

dam.

[@annodatum9456]

FUCK YEA TILDE

[@kennethluo4934]

NOOOOOOOOOO

[@bionicallyacomputer292]

comment section a fat L tbh

[@luismise5780]

Tilde

[@bionicallyacomputer292]

sheesh

[@Michael-cg5qn]

Anyone making “beating a content creator” is just straight up corny

[@Nick-sd6fj]

Lol "tsm marss"

[@morgydee]

Marss isn't a competitor anymore

[@trev_wyatt9979]

Ok are u tho?

[@therealtorment]

Marss been on that content grind. He isnt the same :(

[@rhysjones1108]

@@trev_wyatt9979 what’s your point?

[@Substantial-hf1rm]

He qualified

[@mattkase8880]

If anything it’s amazing that he’s still at least up there, albeit inconsistently, despite having not played at all during the quarantine era of the game

[@deadbrain6801]

Marrs is kinda lame

[@goombayuh]

zss sux

[@faded9581]

Falco is a ridiculous character. I’d say he’s even better than Fox, as his weakness aren’t as exploitable, and has more unpredictability in his options than Wolf. Marss has been sleeping on the competition for awhile, so if anyone was going to give him a reality check, it was Falco.

[@rekt_yer_nan_darding_5788]

I’m a Falco main and it’s a fact that his neutral is by far the worst out of both spacies. His approach options are so unsafe you have to resort to bait and punish along with hard reads like the side b’s tilde was doing.

[@SG-_-245]

Honestly marss just sucks lol. He just plays elite smash and thinks he’s good

[@themetalmastah666]

Nice bait

[@mattkase8880]

He’s nothing compared to the legendary Chippy

[@ASMRStrike1]

bait

[@zsoliddannys242]

Still better than most youtube randoms like you.

[@69metersbelow25]

@@themetalmastah666 yea but is he the master at baiting?