SXS TIRE TESTING AT HAWK PRIDE: A couple old faithfuls against some new competition

[@pete1735]

I'm thinking the nittos it was close between them and the zillas

[@GrimRZR]

@@pete1735 they do good on this surface

[@nuffsaid6807]

STICKYS FOR THE WIN

[@GrimRZR]

Definitely

[@stgraves260]

Zillas are not bad but you can literally buy Nitto Trail Grapplers at your local Discount Tire and get a warranty with them for almost half the price. It’s a no brainer, Nittos all the way!!!

[@GrimRZR]

I still haven't tried Nittos. I always see them for being more expensive than Roxxzillas

[@stgraves260]

@@GrimRZR Rockzillas are usually around $100 more than Nittos. I’ve never seen a Zilla less than Nittos sense 2019 when I bought my 2019 Honda Talon. Most my friends run 32” Zillas on their Razors. 1 person in our group runs 35” Zillas on his Can-Am. I run 33” System3 XT 300s on my Talon. I payed $195 a tire when I bought them in 2019. The Zillas at the time were $345 a tire for 32”. That’s $150 price difference for a smaller tire. The 32” Zillas with 8#s of air are 30” Tall not on the machine. My System3 33” tires with 8# of air are just that 33” tall not on the machine. That’s 3” difference in tire Hight. That’s nuts specially for $150 price difference. We just got back from Wind Rock Tennessee this past weekend. I pulled the Rockzillas out of the mud every day. Yes the Zillas climbed slick rock better than me but I never got stuck. Zillas did good in the wet soupy mud ( hope that makes sense ) but not so good in the sticky mud or the leaves or loose dirt. The Zillas ride much smoother than my 300s by far, but other than slick rock they are not even close to my 300s.

[@stgraves260]

Nitto’s hands down are the stickiest. More and more people are finding that out. The problem is sometimes they are to sticky and are always breaking axles and CV joints.

[@GrimRZR]

I don't think you can get too sticky

[@stgraves260]

@@GrimRZR yeah I understand that to an extent, but if I was constantly breaking axles and CV joints or belts than something needs to change. You have to have a week point somewhere. I wound choose the one that wouldn’t leave me stranded in no mans land. I got the belt issue solved because I have a Honda Talon. I have HCR Long Travel with Demon Axles and Heim joints so I good there. I’m keeping my fingers crossed because my 2019 Honda Talon hasn’t broke down or left me stranded anywhere in 3 years. Maybe it’s luck or maybe it’s not. Who knows. Love your Chanel!! Man I need to do some videos. Maybe I’m biased but man my Talon looks sweet. 3 years in the making and it’s finally coming together.

[@RealEstateWealthCoaching]

So what tire is better, the 370's or 450's?

[@GrimRZR]

For what? Traction, sidewall strength, longevity, mud, rocks. Depends on what you want

[@larrym5606]

For traction, longevity, mud and side wall?

[@yogsothoth6970]

Love my Roxzillas on everything but lots of mud.

[@GrimRZR]

When it comes to mud I just watch

[@crazyflyboy30]

How do the Roxzillas work for hard clay? I'm sure Grim knows what I'm taking about at Top Trails is clay hill and I don't have the enough traction to crawl it . It's trying to climb a load dock.

[@GrimRZR]

@@crazyflyboy30 they work great.

[@vr4junkie385]

Rockzillas won for sure but those Nittos actually did pretty dam good not gonna lie didn’t have much faith in them but they proved me wrong

[@GrimRZR]

They work great in some places

[@CoreyHodson]

Is the grey turbo R an L&W cage? Great videos, I am watching them all!

[@GrimRZR]

Yes it is

[@hillbillycustom1730]

Like to see what bfgs would do

[@GrimRZR]

Historically for me not that great. Just what I've seen but haven't tried them personally

[@chanzsmothers9447]

The pro r acted same way my turbo r did. I've tried nittos and zillas on that wall and it will not crawl it. It's almost like there is too much suspension drop out in the front and unloads . My 4 seater xp I had on zillas would creep up the wall as slow as you wanted

[@GrimRZR]

The long trailing arms take weight off the rear end.

[@C0nn3r69]

Has anyone tried the Maxis rampage?

[@GrimRZR]

I haven't seen any out riding with us

[@C0nn3r69]

@@GrimRZR thanks buddy great videos

[@GrimRZR]

@@C0nn3r69 appreciate it

[@chrismoore9402]

I really liked the Nittos.. but the Zillas are hard to beat. Great video as usual

[@GrimRZR]

The nittos did really good on this surface

[@crazyflyboy30]

I wish I could come out and try it with my modified Sportsman XP1000. Been watching how SXS climb 5 hils and my Sportsman has better traction.

[@GrimRZR]

Would have been fun

[@chipmorris7999]

would love to see that same group do a muddy hill climb and compare. Does the XC450 possibly bridge the gap between the zilla"s and 370's?

[@GrimRZR]

I don't think it does. I believe it's got a whole other riding style that it's great for

[@chipmorris7999]

@Grim RZR Good to know. We have 370's on both machines now just because we ride more in the fall, winter and spring months when it's cooler and usually wetter and when you ride a mixture of mud mixed with rocks I guess you just have to make a choice?

[@douglasjwilliams1]

Testing a tire on only one terrain (a cement wall) really isn't much of a test. Muds, roots, loose rock? Can't really call Zillas all that when you repeatedly just show them on big solid rocks only.

[@GrimRZR]

I just show where we ride. Not holding anything back.

[@douglasjwilliams1]

I absolutely enjoy your videos. Best RZR videos out there. Your how to videos I very much appreciate.

[@GrimRZR]

@@douglasjwilliams1 appreciate it

[@stgraves260]

100% agree!!!! People rave about Rockzillas but all they brag about is how good they are on slick rock. I’m so tired of pulling People out running Rockzillas of mud and just plain leafy loose dirt with my System3 XT 300s. People keep saying they used to run the XT 300 but we’re tired of getting flats. In 4 years I have only seen 1 other SxS run the XT 300s. Ive had mine sense 2019 on my 2019 Honda Talon 1000 R with no flats. I had a guy at Cross Bar on lookout tell me how good his Rockzillas were and he had 5 plugs in his front driver tire alone. LoL!! Every tire has its place out on the trails IMO. I just bought a set of the System3 RT 320s. There is not much reviews out there about them so I want to try them.

[@GrimRZR]

@@stgraves260 I've never been stuck in mud with Roxxzillas. Or any tire really

[@williambeyer6743]

Has anyone ran the Roc Monsters? Curious to see how they’d be

[@GrimRZR]

I'm working on getting a set to try very soon

[@jwezzy1329]

I believe blown budget off-road run them on there talon, seem pretty good but still not as good as the roxxzilla.

[@pyrostwistedride4821]

Blown Budget has them on their talon. I sent them a message asking them to swap them onto the Rzrs or X3 to see how they do on a rig with more power. I personally have Zillas on my X3, and they are great.

[@pyrostwistedride4821]

@Grim RZR I hope you get them! I'm from PA, and I would gladly take a tire with a slight drop in rock power to make up where the Zillas are less than gold. Also, keep up the great work! Hopefully, I can get to your area to ride, I haven't gotten south of TN yet.

[@GrimRZR]

@@pyrostwistedride4821 TN has some great riding. I heard that possibly by end of Feb more 35's will be available so maybe then.

[@marka1712]

The nittos are the only tire I’ve seen do close to what the zillas do. Honestly it’s so close it makes me think it comes down more to driver, machine setup and tire pressure. I’ve seen videos of guys on zillas struggle at windrock on stuff I cruise through with zillas and I’ve seen guys with a krx on 35” zillas struggle where I don’t and a few of them do better than I do. 🤷‍♂️

[@GrimRZR]

Driver plays a lot of factors out on the trail. That's why I liked seeing this slab. It is still going to be a factor but much less.

[@marka1712]

@@GrimRZR I’d love to come there and try it. I think I’m a pretty good driver but there are times the machine does stuff and I’m like “damn this thing saved me from lookin a fool” 🤣🤣🤣

[@GrimRZR]

@@marka1712 mine does that to me too cause I close my eyes when it gets bad

[@Spectrum184]

Nitto would be a real contender if the sidewall was better

[@GrimRZR]

What do you mean. They seem to have a pretty tough sidewall

[@Spectrum184]

@@GrimRZR Very little traction though. The zilla side lugs really help.

[@GrimRZR]

@@Spectrum184 possibly. I think it depends what terrain. Less traction in a muddy rut from the sides but probably decent traction on rocks and hard pack dirt. I really haven't seen them enough to say or go off just looks yet

[@chadhall5921]

Nito’s are good

[@GrimRZR]

For this surface yes they are

[@larrygaal4808]

every tire has what they are good on and bad on. Just pick one thats good for the surfaces you mainly ride on.

[@GrimRZR]

That's right

[@jeremyfranklin8233]

I just want to know where I can get some of those green tires..

[@GrimRZR]

Special factory team driver

[@andygarner75]

Where you get the hat at?

[@GrimRZR]

Noggin Boss. Had a local embroidery place do the rest. Maddie Moos embroidery

[@jackfirth3475]

Good video

[@GrimRZR]

Thank you

[@eaglebayjim6709]

I run 370’s but I think Zillas for the win Great video!!

[@GrimRZR]

In this instance yes

[@oursxsadventures8156]

Nitto's did surprise me but to me it's just more evidence Zilla's are king and how much gear reduction.

[@GrimRZR]

It really is hard to beat Roxxzillas all around

[@RZRMINERBDR]

Yes, but what about price reduction. Because if I can get a tire that’s even close to the zillas, that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg, I’d probably give ‘em a try.

[@mictuning]

would you like to get some free led lights？

[@GrimRZR]

No thanks

[@RZRMINERBDR]

We all know the rock zillas are acceptional, but the nittos really have impressed me lately. What’s the price difference comparatively?

[@GrimRZR]

Relatively same price

[@stgraves260]

As of now 32”x9.5R15 the Nittos at Discount tire are $261, 33s are $278, and 35 are $336. RockZillas at planet SxS for a 32” are $345 they don’t make a 33 but there 35” runs $378.50. They were $445 I guess they dropped. Last month Discount Tire had their Nittos 33” for $225. These prices are as of April 8th,2023.

[@GrimRZR]

@@stgraves260 I see. I see Roxxzillas for 1100 all the time.

[@stgraves260]

@@GrimRZR it’s hard to keep up with the prices of tires these days. If I wanted a sticky tire myself I would go to my local discount tire and get the Nittos and save the $100 ish per tire. The 33” Nittos run 32.25 tall with 8 psi on them not on the machine. I just bought a set of 33” System3 RT 320s because I don’t see many reviews about them. They are not a sticky but they are supper light DOT 8 ply tire. I weight them right at 40# per tire and they measured a true 33” tall not on the machine. A 32” Zilla weights 52 # when I weight them and measured 30” with 8 # on them not on the machine. Hope this helps.

[@GrimRZR]

@@stgraves260 appreciate the info

[@palmdoggy155]

Nittos!!

[@GrimRZR]

They did good here

[@hoagiesherlin7732]

How do you think those Desert Storm tires would have done

[@GrimRZR]

Not as good as the Roxxzillas and nitto but better than 370 and 450

[@brandonrogers1950]

WiSh they would make a Zilla in a 37

[@GrimRZR]

Very soon you will have more options in a 37. I hear zillas included

[@travishall0831]

I know it would have been a lot of work but should have got the lowest geared machine and swapped all the tires out on it

[@GrimRZR]

It is definitely a heck of a lot of work. You can get the idea after seeing several similar results

[@Rattlecanjeff]

Hard to beat Zillas. Nittos are close though.

[@GrimRZR]

Love the Roxxzillas.

[@shademirandalarson6793]

How did you get that hat!??

[@GrimRZR]

I ordered it and had it embroidered by Maddie Moos embroidery.

[@RumpShaker_JKU]

@@GrimRZR is that a Noggin Boss hat?

[@GrimRZR]

@@RumpShaker_JKU yes it is

[@dennywright3132]

I run 370's and they are great for most of the terrain I ride on but i plan on buying a set of rockzillas. Looks like the nitto's work really well on certain terrain but I just don't like the looks of them compared to other tires.

[@GrimRZR]

370's work great on everything. These smooth surfaces are one of the places that you can noticably see they aren't as good though.

[@MisfitRZR]

Gear reduction + Zillas!!

[@GrimRZR]

Key qualities for a great machine

[@rmax2]

Zilla's! 👍

[@GrimRZR]

Yes

[@RZRMINERBDR]

You should do a video covering “grip vs cost”. Not just grip but also longevity, etc. I know some guys don’t care, but I want a tire that’s good for more then 50-100 miles on asphalt without being slicks after.

[@GrimRZR]

Measuring longevity is tough in a short amount of time. I do agree that majority probably doesn't need sticky Roxxzillas that wear out fast. I think the 450's will be a great tire for most folks

[@RZRMINERBDR]

@@GrimRZR I’m always curious about how many miles people get out of different brands of sxs tires. I appreciate the replies and all the info in your videos. Thanks brother.

[@GrimRZR]

@@RZRMINERBDR it's definitely important to most people. Just hard to put in a review without running the tires for a really long time first. I can get an idea but it's really just an opinion unless I actually ran them all the way down