LIFT KIT and SUSPENSION ... The OVERLAND SUBARU FORESTER PERFECT SETUP !

[@R3aperTwo8]

I've watched a number of videos and browsed many channels like yours and I'll just say that I'm impressed with the lack of bloated content. You get straight to the point and only talk about the necessary information. Great aesthetics in your videos and a clean Fozzy to match. Keep up the good work! -2019 Crosstrek Owner, 6MT

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Thank you so much for your kind comment! I'm very glad you enjoy the content 🙏 Have fun with your crosstrek!

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[@vincentwindels3752]

Good information there Jordan. At the rear, you could replace the Forester SG shocks to Outback BG shocks (KYB), they have the lower spring perch 10mm higher so you don't need the saggy butt spacer and the shaft is thicker too, 25mm versus 22mm for the SG.

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Thanks Vincent! I wanted to share what I know to help people around so they can get the best setup without wasting money and time. You have good infos too! And you probably know more about all of that than me ahaha. Maybe we should film a walk-around of your forester one day!

[@ВасяСтепанов-э3п]

Yeah, I also run rear Legacy (Outback) BG-BD rear struts and OBK HD sf springs. For 215/60/16 it is perfect

[@JohanvanderMeulen1991]

So in the front regular Subaru forester sf shocks with normal springs, and in the rear Subaru Outback BG shocks with either a stronger forester sf spring or a stock forester sf spring? I am currently running stock old Subaru forester sf shocks with Ironman lift springs, gave me a bit of a lift. And the shocks are a bit stiffer, but i like stiff suspension. And i noticed that inside the socks there is also a spring that compresses when the shock gets fully extended, and so preventing that you get a hars feel on the end of the shock traffel.

[@whiskeyshikesbikes6150]

I appriciate the detail info you provide and the effort you put in pronunciations

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Thanks! I really try my best 😁

[@countercivilization]

Thanks for the video! Actually I lifted my forester with a 2 inches front and 2.5 inches back kit. This arrangement was recommend by Subie Lift Oz if you were to tow or load your car like a CMF :)...plus added 4 standard length HD Spring for added stiffness (I tow so it is a good thing), note that my HD springs are 1.5cm taller than the standard touring one. The main issue was with the CV boots, good Lord 😭...the factory fitted boots have been shredded in a couples of weeks especially the front, the new one (slightly longer than stock in order to take the narrowed angle create by the lighting). The front boots pop out yesterday after Less than 3 weeks driving like granny in Sydney traffic... After contacted Matt from SLOz (he came back to me within 30mn so good on him) and he said quote: It sounds like the front inner CVs have popped out, very common with the SG Forester. He has to push the CV back in. Unquote I guess I need to talk to the mechanic on Monday and negotiate the bill as I warm him about those issues...

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

wow, bad stuff for the CV poping out! I never had that happen. For the CV boots, my stock ones also directly cracked after the lift. After that I changed them with other Subaru OEM one and so far so good ! For CV, CV boots ... nothing's better than genuine Subaru parts ;)

[@RedlamAreefi]

Thanks, I will make sure to use the information in the video for my forester build :)

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Awesome ! Glad it help !

[@jacobflores6479]

“Saggy butt” in his accent sounds smooth for some reason 😂 awesome

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

😂😂 always trying my best ahaha

[@gacastillo21]

Thanks for the information. I have been following your vids and love the simplicity and good first hand experience you give us. I am currently building a 2002 Nissan xterra 4x4, for off roading and general beach driving. Hello from Texas and keep up the great work!

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Many thanks! I'm glad you enjoy the videos 🙏 Good luck with your build and have fun with it!

[@joergarms1]

Great vid. Love the forester. France has a lot of nice offroad roads, perfectly for your car.

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Thanks mate! France have nice regions for offroading or overlanding that's for sure !

[@mrb1864]

another tip is use the SG rear brake flexi hoses which go straight to wheel cylinder and get rid of the short steel line . SG strut has slotted brake line fixing bracket which makes lot of suspension work a little simpler as don't need split line at bracket like the SF design (although easy modify the SF strut bracket) Keep up the good work ... You going overland again soon ?

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Thanks for the additional infos! Yes! Next trip should start next month... And gonna last 8 months 👊

[@garykieronlainen1826]

i did but my sf5 Sachs shocks and Monroes springs all is allmost stock but i noticed that stock bump stoppers were kinda puny so i changed them to toyota 4runner bump stoppers.. allmost 3times longer than stock and much softer, even if bottom everything it doesnt hit your teeth out. nice work! keep it up.

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Thank you for your feedback! I've never felt the need to change the bump stoppers but that good infos! Thanks 🙏

[@0xsergy]

@@ALNSMOVERLAND whenever you do a lift you should lengthen the bump stocks by about the same distance. without it it can lead to frame cracking issues if the shocks bottom out before the bump stops, or even damage your shock mounts etc.

[@bugydugy4952]

Wow that sounds great Gary... which generation of Toyota 4Runner bump stops?? thank you very mucho

[@garykieronlainen1826]

@@bugydugy4952 2nd gen, if i remember correct.

[@bugydugy4952]

@@garykieronlainen1826 thank you very much Gary! 💪🏻

[@ignitionoffroad5028]

Another great video! Definitely agree with your lift recommendation for overlanding. Subframe drops are a lot of work and the legalities of it all make it even more challenging. I’m surprised the SG struts didn’t work in the front. This is the first time I’ve heard anyone comment on that.

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Thanks! They work but they are not the best on a SF

[@vincentwindels3752]

Its maybe because AUDM and EUDM don't have the same front struts. EUDM SF front shocks have 17cm stroke, EUDM SG front shocks have 18,5cm stroke but the lower spring perch is 15mm lower than the SF's.

[@Oatmeal_TVx]

Ok I know I’m new and a little slow but what’s SF , SH, SG!? I have a 2004 Subaru Forester 25XS that I just bought. What is that!? Btw I love your videos and plan to do similar with my forester so far I’m gonna get a ADF 2” with 2” trailing arms? Is that all I HAVE to do!? Can I use stock struts and springs? If not what is best recommend. I’m in the US! Thanks

[@Oatmeal_TVx]

I wanna run 215/70/16

[@ignitionoffroad5028]

@@Oatmeal_TVx SF is first gen forester 97-02, SG is second gen 03-07, SH is third gen 08-12 and then there is SJ and the current SK model. Stock suspension is fine. Some of us put a heavy duty spring in the rear to help with weight but that’s about it.

[@RumbleOverland]

Awesome to see your setup in detail, looks like you've got it dialled. Took me a couple of rounds to get mine right too!

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

It's never perfect the first time hehe 😂

[@freedom_foz_6337]

Your English is very good! Better than my Spanish. I want to lift my 2020 and keep learning more.

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Thanks! I hope the video was helpful 😉

[@freedom_foz_6337]

ALNSM OVERLAND it was and confirmed for me some of the pros and cons.

[@johnnumbat9782]

Thanks for the shared experience Jordan - I will see if it’s allowed here in Australia - I will run less aggressive tyres probably hybrid At/Mud (70/30) so with a 2” lift on my 98 Forester do I still have to cut away any body panels for the front suspension? John in SA

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

You won't have to cut body panels !

[@johnnumbat9782]

@@ALNSMOVERLAND thanks Jordan that’s a relief as I tend to butcher them 👀😒

[@danzbeard]

Thank you for all of this information! I’m actually on a trip now and had some issues with my Forester and have decided when I get home, I’m going to do what you have done. Thank you!

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Awesome! Have fun during your trip and good luck with your build! 👊

[@ВасяСтепанов-э3п]

Hey Jordan! Can you please say the distance between the center of your wheel and fender. And what is the ground clearance with such configuration? Thanks for video!

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

That would be great infos as well but it will change depending on how loaded the Forester is

[@ВасяСтепанов-э3п]

@@ALNSMOVERLAND for example with your usual load 🙂

[@DANIEL-ls5ku]

Thanks for the tip👍🏼

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Always happy to help 🙏

[@ItAintJustPaint]

Great video!

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Thanks 🙏

[@Binnkin]

Dumb question.. does SF in springs and struts for the front mean Subaru Forester? Also, what are SG struts? Thanks for anyone's help!

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

SF is the chassis code for 1st gen forester like mine. SG is for 2nd gen forester (2002/2008)

[@michaelwells7562]

@@ALNSMOVERLAND Rock and roll man, thanks! I am looking to do the Trans America Trail this summer and have been mulling over this good looking car. facebook.com/marketplace/item/1979908122152614/

[@Oatmeal_TVx]

So if you have a Second gen (2004) with a 2 inch lift with 2.5 rear with trailing spacers . Will I need to find First gen front spring and stock rear?

[@nigelstevenson3424]

some very good info

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Glad it was helpful!

[@overlandsubaruinternationa2378]

I got the regulor KYB for the confort in front but In the back KYB strut and KING Spring so it nice

[@Oatmeal_TVx]

With 2.5 in back and 2 in front?

[@overlandsubaruinternationa2378]

@@Oatmeal_TVx standard hight no lift but it change hell a lot the king spring in the back for the saging or squats the car was making

[@softroadingthewest]

Excellent explanation! Looks like you've got this dialed in very nicely. I can't remember, are you running a rear sway bar or did you remove it?

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Thank you my friend! Both of my sway bars are gone and it still drives OK on the road. I think the stiffer SG springs on the front help with the body roll.

[@softroadingthewest]

@@ALNSMOVERLAND Oh yeah, I didn't think about the springs helping, good point. I think I'm going to give the sway bar removal a try, at least on the rear. And hopefully upgrade springs soon! Thanks Jordan!

[@RumbleOverland]

@@softroadingthewest you'll love no rear sway bar, I've taken mine off, still lifts wheels but no where near as much. And is still really nice on the road.

[@softroadingthewest]

@@RumbleOverland That's great to hear. I'm definitely going to give that a go!

[@cuzican8675]

Coming from a person in the US your English is pretty good. Where are you from ? Accent is awesome

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Thanks mate! I'm from France 🇫🇷

[@SmallADVentures1973]

Great tutorial and explanation, brother 😁✌

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Thanks brother 🙏👊

[@Just4FunRC]

Nice info Jordan thank you, love my subbies we haves a forester 13premium and a outback 10 premium. i ust the outback as daily and misses the forester. i want to turn my outback stealth weekend camper but the laws is so extremy strict on car modifications here. I saw you went on a trip here in Norway too :) my idea was 2.5lift rear and 2" front. roofrack/rooftent. in the back have one side as a modulare kitchen/workstation for rc truck or fpv quads. ad 1 or 2 extra sealed batteries. yes and also tint rear windows. subbed love the content

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

That's sounds like a very nice setup! Good luck with your build and I'm happy to help through my videos 🙏

[@anibalhm1]

Hello friend, again. Are SG Forester shock absorbers fully compatible with SF Forester? Or do I have to do any modification to be able to install them in SF Forester? (Modification in the form of a cup or the opening) Sorry if you mentioned it in a video I haven't seen yet. Thanks again for your videos, they have been very helpful for my SF Forester project and I know for many more owners of these legends. You are motivation!

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Sorry about my late reply. But yes, SG shocks are compatible with SF Forerster. This is actually what I have !

[@JimsUWPhotography]

Thanks for doing that video. I was thinking about putting spacers in my SF Forester. But then I thought that getting new springs and shocks would be much better. Thanks for the tips in SG struts on the back. Why do you say to uses standard height struts/springs then and use spacers? Some countries and states have made using spacers illegal. I would have thought that using a dedicated raised height spring/shock/strut would be safer and much better that using spacers.

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Raised springs are not good for your struts because it's extended to the max. You also loose flex because you don't have up travel anymore and they are too stiff to let your suspension work. And they often give you a harsh ride. Spacers are simple en easy to install 👍 but you are right, they can be illegal in some states /countries...

[@JimsUWPhotography]

@@ALNSMOVERLAND I will have to check to see if I can legally fit them to my car.

[@akalinh]

Merci pour ce RETEX, les infos sur les rehaussent sont assez dispersé sur le net. Entre les échanges de générations, les cales, etc... Il faut pas mal de recherche pour se fixer! J'ai hésité à rehausser mon Foz... mais j'adore sa tenue de route en tant que SUV énervé. Être capable de prendre du chemin roulant et ne pas serrer les fesses en conduite sportive sur route, c'est plaisant! J'ai peur qu'avec des cales, trop de roulis apparaissent... Ça ne serait pas top pour encaisser le turbo dans les virages 😅

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

C'est un difficile choix à faire oui... Ou compromis ! Je me rappelle quand j'ai acheté le foz, j'étais dingue sur le retour avec son comportement super agréable qui donne envie d'attaquer ! Maintenant c'est autre chose Ahahah. Après j'ai toujours dis, quand notre road trip sera fini, je garde le SF pour les balades, et je prends un SG turbo pour le reste 😈 (Et une impreza pour la préparer rally mais ça, il faut pas le dire à Lizanne 🤣)

[@akalinh]

On se comprends pour son comportement d'origine! Je me vois pas m'en passer! 😁 Raaaa, j'adore la gueule agressive des SG! Une vraie réussite! Tu vois, moi c'est l'inverse: Garde mon SF turbo pour le reste (qui me convient presque parfaitement dans l'actuelle configuration, juste 2-3 trucs à encore améliorer), et avoir un SG atmo pour le offroad! 😂 On ne le répètera pas pour l'impreza! 😂 Par contre attention, leur cotte sont en pleine remontée, les prix vont vite piquer! 😅

[@comep9702022]

Great vid! Where to buy the Heavy duty rear springs in Europe? Cannot find them anywhere. Anyone?

[@foresterboy2011]

Hi Jordan, another amazing and humorous vlog by the way... How do I purchase one of those ALNSM OVERLAND jackets you were wearing in this video. Please advise. Much appreciated. UK guy. P.s. Also a SOFTROADING THE WEST T-shirt.

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Hi John and thanks for your kind words 🙏 On my jacket, this is an ALNSM Overland velcro patch! I have only one left in stock! Please contact me on Facebook or Instagram for the purchase 😉 for tee shirts and other stuff you can visit my teespring store here : teespring.com/fr/stores/alnsm-overland For softroading the west, you should check his website!

[@rosco420i8]

So with the 2.5 inch rear leveling kit would I have to try and find 2.5 inch rear trailing arm spacers as well? I currently am running a 2 inch lift but the 2 inch trailing arm spacers, but now realize why I have a saggy butt.

[@tieoneonflyfishing9989]

How does your forester go with power low down power and fuel consumption running the 215/75/15?

[@kosayno]

Thanks for this!! I think this is what I want to do with my 98 sf. If I get new sg struts for the rear and stiff sf springs, can I reuse my old sf tophats?

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Yes, tophats goes with spring (SG spring = SG tophats and SF spring = SF tophats) But, while you are here, I suggest you to get new one. It's not expensive and might prevent some issues 😉

[@kosayno]

@@ALNSMOVERLAND Thanks! For a family of four (me, wife and full grown teens + medium size dog) and approximately 150 kg of camping and adventure gear, would you recommend heavy duty front springs to go along with the heavy duty rear springs or just stay with the stock sg springs?

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

I don't think front HD would be useful here

[@kosayno]

@@ALNSMOVERLAND 👍👍

[@sparklesinthewild]

I think you are the cutest lift kit expert I ever seen 😍 just my opinion 😇

[@jhbryaniv]

It took me a second... 😂 🤣 🤣 😂

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

😂😂😂

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Ooooh 😍 and you the cutest co-pilot! 😘

[@vincentwindels3752]

Thats hot !

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

😊

[@paweljasnowski]

Do you use longer Stabilizer link after lift for front and rear??.? The oem is to short I think after lifting your car.

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

I don't rememeber if I mentionned it in my video but I removed both front and rear sway bars !

[@paweljasnowski]

@@ALNSMOVERLAND is it safety that way? Any discomfort on the Road?

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

It's noticeable, especially with the rooftop top. But I drive slow and take corners even slower. No discomfort. But high speed emergency avoiding might be tricky/unsafe I recon

[@jodyprice420]

Did you or anyone ever have a problem witj a rear axle pop out? I have a 06 forester 2in spacers with adjustable rear control arm and soon as leave driveway left rear (Driver) pop out of diff. 🤷‍♂️

[@Mike_44]

Did you end up having any CV boot/joint issues with the setup you recommended at the end? Your videos are awesome btw!

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Most of the time the old CV boot fail just after the lift. Just swap them with new genuine Subaru one. After more than 3 years, a lot of miles/km on and off pavement : No problems 👊

[@Mike_44]

@@ALNSMOVERLAND You mentioned to use SG struts in rear and heavy duty SF springs with them.. but aren’t the SF springs different? In other words would the SF springs fit ok with the rear SG struts? I’m confused on this part.. I was thinking of doing 1.5” lift on the front and 2.0” lift on the rear to avoid all issues related to the axles/CV joints/boots.. but changing the rear struts to SGs

[@Naneychevelu]

Merci pour la review :) Pour tes road-trips t'es à l'essence ? Pas de GPL ou ethanol, ça te revient pas trop cher, surtout avec toute la cargaison ?

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

100% essence oui! Avec le voyage en tête, je ne voulais pas d'un système en plus dans le véhicule (panne, place, poids) et je ne suis pas sur de la dispo du GPL dans les pays les plus reculés que je devrais visiter cette année. Du coup, c'est un peu plus cher oui. J'ai une moyenne de 11L/100km qui est quand même raisonnable 😉

[@subaru6538]

Why you need the springs to be stiffer?

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Because of all the added weight

[@nicstokes236]

Hey Jordan! What about sway bars? Can you keep the stock ones with 2" lift or will the end links wear out quickly?

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

I forgot to talk about that. I removed both sway bars. Even with only 2in lift, end links tends to break from what I heard...

[@kwahu1519]

End links do break sometimes but not very often at all I would keep it in and 2 inch is as bug as u can go without causing problems

[@joerobertson7047]

Can you tell me the tire sizes you are running? I'm wanting to switch to a all terrain or mud terrain tire. I have nice 15 inch rims currently and see no need to upgrade those

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Thanks for subscribing to the channel, it always help! Feel free to share my videos as well 😉 My tires are 215/75/15 AT which is perfect for overlanding. I'm gonna stick to 15in and AT in the future 😉

[@Reviveftp]

ty so much!

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

My pleasure!

[@harryhenderson2259]

YOU COULD JUST SWAP OUT W/ SOME USED LATER MODEL OUTBACK STRUT ASSEMBLIES & 1" SPACER FOR A FACTORY SMOOTH RIDE W/ 3" OF LIFT" ON THE CHEAP "

[@ncd7184]

How much ground clearance do you have in inches?

[@victorbillard4164]

Hello , Il me semble que tu es Français, alors je me permets de la faire en français : Mortelle ta sub ❤ Je suis actuellement en australie et je me build un SG XS manuel de 2007. Du coup l'astuce des ressorts SF sur amortisseur arrière SG fonctionne ?? Merci d"avance ! Et du coup les pedders, content ? Car j'hésite avec le sempiternel kyb + ressorts heavy duty arrières et normaux devant. En espérant avoir une réponse, Merci pour tes vidéos, et peut être ta réponse

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

Hello, en effet un petit français ici qui essaie de parler anglais 😅 oui les ressorts SF sont plus rigides de base et se montent sur des amorto SG ! Concernant la qualité pas de soucis de mon côté si ce n'est la peinture des ressorts qui se barre, sinon ok 💪 merci pour ton commentaire et bon courage pour ton build ! ✌️

[@jasonfennell1114]

Can someone please explain to me the purpose of the bag over the tire? I thought it was to prevent reflection of light from the wheel. Looks like a thief magnet.

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

It's just a massive trash bag so nothing to steal

[@jasonfennell1114]

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[@RingDragon3]

hello Jordan, Again a very nice video, but there are some things I like to say. first, the lift kit doesnt give you any extra ground clearance. Only bigger wheels and tyres do so. Longer struts and longer springs gives you more comfort as spacers. So if you put in spacers on top of your struts, you just higher the car, but dont make the suspencion more capable. We call that boulevard lift. so you need a complete new set of springs and struts. The only way you can have the best setup. Unfortunally there is no standard suspecion set for the Forester. You could go to Reiger suspencion, but hey, you can buy a jeep for that amount of money I guess reigersuspension.com/rallyraid2/ So, for you, you did the best which is possible. And I hope you will find no problems what so ever onb your trips.

[@leeloo21231234]

Subaru is a front and back independent suspension so the lift kit helps with ground clearence always.

[@RingDragon3]

@@leeloo21231234 True, I didnt consider that part. So yes, it is true. Still, bigger wheels are the way to get bigger clearance. But with independant suspencion it is true that that will work as well.

[@billsonke9012]

Bonsoir j'apprécie beaucoup votre contenu. . J'aurais besoin de vos conseils pour la préparation de mon forester. Comment Est il possible de vous contacter ?

[@OMW2FYBRQ]

How much lift did the springs give you

[@ALNSMOVERLAND]

0, the springs doesn't lift. But they help not having a saggy butt