Learning to true a wheel WITH AND WITHOUT A TRUING STAND | Syd Fixes Bikes

[@sydfixesbikes]

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[@PinkCampfire]

Hello Syd. My local shop is charging $35-50 USD depending on severity is that a lot?

[@ggebhard1]

@@PinkCampfire I don't think it's a lot. You had to buy all the proper tools that I don't have, plus your experience is very valuable! Imagine Sid doing this job without the help of her Husband. Even though I know how to do this job, I'd still rather take it in to a shop.

[@PinkCampfire]

@@ggebhard1 wrong response. Edit: i took it to another shop that charged me $20

[@buggsmcgee9270]

She's Cute! Can we keep her ?

[@JoseOrtega-rc6fd]

😍😍😍😍

[@andersama2215]

I bet others have said this, but the moment you said you could listen to the sound the spokes make. I immediately grabbed my phone and pulled out my guitar tuner app. I might be terrible tuning by ear, either way, without knowing what was and what wasn't good tension having a relative measurement helped. Pretty much immediately straightened out my wheel no problem.

[@floreschris5574]

Holyactually moly, thanks for the brilliant idea m8t.

[@studentHoobs]

Next level mate

[@D4veJap4n]

Smart. And I'm mad that I didn't figure that out myself haha

[@SmokestackLightning3.14]

While matching pitch can be an effective way to compare spoke tensions within the same wheel, (or same flange) it's not reliable for measuring absolute tension since the pitch is a function of spoke gauge and free length along with tension.

[@rotoconversions2400]

So if a guitar app registers a specific note on most spokes that you pluck at the same position ( important ).you could tune a perfect rim tension.

[@ggebhard1]

I love how you make Syd think on her own! When I was a kid, (I'm now 71) my father bought me a spoke tightener tool, because I was trying to remove spokes with a needle nose pliers. I had a hub that broke, so I took another wheel completely apart and switched hubs! Luckily the hub fit on my better bike. I put every spoke back on and after quite awhile, I was able to tighten all the spokes back to true. I loved my dad, because he didn't help me. He aways let me learn by trial and error. He did, however, show me how to pluck the spokes for sound. We were farmers. All my bicycles were hand me downs or junkers.

[@ryancherian9917]

this video is better than both the GCN videos on truing. The fact that Syd goes through all the steps in the process as if she's someone who doesnt know what theyre doing makes it perfect for those who don't know what they are doing!!! thanks sm

[@gitnjur]

GCN only provide value for their sponsors, there is absolutely nothing for the average bike rider on their chanel.

[@nickkent7164]

The best "how to true a wheel" video I've seen. The section on tone of spoke for about 5 minutes was a Eureka moment! Thank you

[@SuchtFaktorHoch10]

actually blew my mind. genius and yet so simple. plus the tip from Renax the man that spokes way more likely loosen makes everything so much easier. If you are unsure always go for tightening the spokes.

[@tylersimpson5541]

Yeah I was about to go start doing whatever I thought was right and I’m glad I had this moment too with the guitar musical stuff

[@sabergo1]

Thanks, this was very helpful. I appreciate Syd's humility and Mackey's patience.f

[@dhorubaPRIME]

She did an amazing job at acting like she didn't know what she was doing! She asked all the questions a viewer like me would ask! In short, a fantastic video on how to true your wheel and why!

[@nazmulhuda3262.]

I thought she actually didn't know anything.

[@reinach77]

She's actually learning stuff while making the video.

[@joeennis2571]

i think you are correct , and for the reasons you suggested

[@MrNiceCobra]

She's learning stuff. She is a little clumsy , but it is cute :)). Also, mechanic will never have rings on fingers, shirt sleeves over fingers, and her hands are too nice for manual work person. I am mechanic and cant wear even a watch, which is sad, because I like watches :))

[@ddahstan6876]

Syd is a fantastic guinea pig for all of us learners! Love her quirkiness!!❤🎉

[@Drzhounder]

I actually LOVE that you guys go into the ‘why’. No other trueing video I’ve seen does that. And btw, damn nice trueing stand you’ve got there.

[@SyedtheITguy]

I believe this is from REI but if someone can tell us which stand it is that would be very helpful cause i am in the market for buying a stand.

[@sydfixesbikes]

@SyedtheITguy did you check the video description 😉

[@paolocapozzi927]

You guys are really good at explaining! Another thing I would suggest is, before you start the process put a drop of oil where the nipple enters the rim. Also, whenever you turn any spoke, turn it a 1/4 turn more than you want, and then turn that 1/4 turn back. The first thing helps with the nipple getting stuck on the rim and the second helps against spoke twisting.

[@timothybradek3560]

Thank you.. that makes sense.

[@RomanStolper]

This sort of teaching-style tutorial video is a great concept! Because it uncovers all sorts of questions someone learning the process may ask or pitfalls they encounter.

[@richardcassidy5183]

I love that you are thinking this through live, and feeling demonstrably frustrated/discouraged, as opposed to just certain telling us a bunch of rules and conclusions. very helpful. thank you

[@Goosefang]

Love the dynamic that you two have. Macky is very informative without being condescending. Makes for great teaching. Syd, you are just awesome! Glad I found you guys.

[@mattgies]

I do build wheels and I am enjoying myself, because I watched Syd giggle after saying "nipple".

[@davidfogel5207]

I have to say that for years I've been trying to learn how to true wheels in my bikes and your method is life changing. Thank you very much!

[@DanT10]

You can use a phone app to listen to the frequency of a spoke if you are tone deaf. This was an awesome(!) video. Definitely worth a subscribe.

[@SteelR4t]

Absolutely brilliant. Easily the best guide I've seen. It helps that Syd's not too sure of what she's doing because it's easier to understand the same kinds of questions that go through your mind as a novice when you come up against the fairly frequent, "so what do I do here" situation. Loved the "twang for note of spoke" tip to assess tightness too!

[@joegentry5337]

Had fun learning this with you. Thanks for being willing to do it on camera.

[@SuperPetVet]

What I've found works great at keeping track of what spokes you're working on is using painters or masking tape. Rip off a couple of small pieces and stick one to the first spoke of the section you're working on and then stick the other to the last spoke. Once you've finished that section, use the same pieces of tape to mark off the next section, and so on. Works like a charm.

[@nazmulhuda3262.]

I think chalk might help better.

[@JBAE1231]

I wanted to say what a great video this was! First, for me learning is always about the, "why" and I appreciate you both for going into it. Even better than that is seeing that she never once asked to be, "spoon fed" the answer to any question, and he never, "gave away" an answer either. It is this very thought process that allows one to problem solve effectively and avoid giving up so easily on any issue (not just this one). Bravo and good luck to your channels success, I definitely enjoyed it as a person trying to become more mechanically inclined to repair my own bike!

[@PreludeDude]

I love the realism of these videos, it absolutely makes me feel like when I talk to my girlfriend who is interested and figuring it out as we go along. I like to give her mini quizzes and make her think about the process too

[@alexfelix8329]

I build my own wheels and for others, you asked, "if you build your own wheels why are you watching this video?" I'm open to seeing how others build wheels, you can always learn something new!!! After building wheels for a few years I learned from " bike man for you" ( he's nolonger making bike videos, how to tighten spokes by tighten #1 then skip 2 and on to #4,so you are tightening rightside then leftside and going around the wheel much faster and straighter, till you get to the fine tuning. Great work!!

[@nettle_head]

this is extra cool. i love watching a tutorial where im learning along with multiple mechanics, a more experienced person and someone who is actively puzzling it out. this is awesome.

[@magiusgames4760]

Kudos to the cameraman for the best tip I've heard about truing the wheel and checking tension: Play it like a harp! I just bought a bike and was having trouble getting the wheel true. Plucking the spokes showed me instantly how none of them matched, some were barely inserted. From an hour of frustration to a 5 minute fix!

[@davidlsmithjr129]

This video and $40 for a cheap truing stand brought my wheels back after my 29" mountain bike fell off my carrier at 60 mph. Thank You!

[@markthompson5136]

The conversation aspect instead of just one person explaining to the camera was lovely and much more informative! Great video :)

[@agma]

OMG guys, thank you! Even though everything you showed is straightforward and just follows common sense, before I watched this video all this stuff just did not "click". Same applies to many other videos. Very nice structure and accents. You are fantastic teachers!

[@trophy1999]

I have been putting off truing my wheel for a while. Your video is both informative and entertaining. Cheers.

[@trophy1999]

Just finished truing my wheel. It's now nice and straight thanks to your video.

[@teekaynine7477]

LOVE the plucking idea! As far as the left-loosy, righty-tighty goes...I visualize that I am viewing the spoke head on through the rubber tire. That way, I don't have to flip my mind in reverse to loosen/tighten. :) Great video!

[@jfpjfpjfp]

Used the zip tie method this morning on a wonky front wheel. With a little trial and error got it looking pretty good. Now I can adjust and use the front pinch brakes again. Thanks!! Great vid.

[@stevenhowes530]

I love the pinging of the spokes. I've rarely trued a tire but was never confident on which to loosen or tighten. that helps

[@andrewhillman9632]

Wonderful video, jus trued my front wheel using this method (zip tie 😉) and it worked great, no more wobbly wheel!

[@rebelonatrail1182]

Wow, imagine my surprise when I tried to true a wheel for the first time and it just seemed to get worse. Then I watched this video and realized that everything I was doing was making it worse! Thank you!

[@andyford5855]

Watched a few other videos, but this was the one that helped the most! Tire is no longer hitting the frame!

[@markobz]

Thank you two so much I had a headache for 2 weeks how to do this now my wheel is true ! And the process of learning how to do it in the future is priceless 😎

[@possumpete]

Excellent. Simply excellent. This covers everything needed including the mental confusions. The "tightening music" works for me as a check ,an affirmation, of the directional dyslexia the spoke nipples (giggle) bring to this journey.

[@DrewCatlin]

Great video! I don't have a stand so I've always done it by sight & sound & now I'm going to do your zip tie trick tomorrow

[@RenaxTM91]

As a general rule of thumb, a spoke will never just magically for no reason work itself tighter, it'll almost always be the other side becoming looser. either by stretching or just the nipple works itself a bit loose. If they've become tight its mostly because they've gotten a sharp kink that won't straighten out and at that point its spoke replacement time.. you can loosen it a bit and keep riding a weakened spoke, but in addition to not being as strong the kink will slowly work itself out and you'll need to keep tightening the spoke multiple times.. so just replace it and be done.

[@sydfixesbikes]

That's a great point.

[@steinbauge4591]

I replace stuff when it does not work anymore ;) it can work for years with a little wooble :)

[@leoeneji.]

Thanks for your help guys you are great,

[@larrydaniels6532]

That reasoning only works if the wheel hasn't had an attempt at truing from either a bike shop or an owner! As a bike shop employee, the usual procedure would be to loosen the over-tight spokes first, without question!

[@rogeranderson1524]

Delightful! Useful and entertaining. I love how there's no ego or arrogance from these two. Subscribed. :-)

[@sydfixesbikes]

Welcome!

[@davecrashes4905]

LOVE this one. Your explanations for otherwise complex repairs are outstanding.

[@pedaltherapy806]

Nice video. Some things to consider for those watching: Wheel strength comes from equal tension in spokes, not whether it spins true or not. Wheel strength is more important that truness (if that's a word). As noted in the video, with disc brakes, a perfectly true wheel isn't as important anymore. Strive for equal spoke tension first, a true rim second. If the rim is new, then both goals can be met. If the rim is bent, equal spoke tension is nearly impossible without physically bending it back, and you can't bend it back with just spoke tension. 10:20 - this part is key. If the rim is bent, you cannot un-bend it with spoke tension. Trying to do so will cause uneven spoke tension. See point above. 14:10 - another key part. I'd wager that most riders, if truly tested, couldn't tell if a wheel was spinning true or not while riding. If a wheel is well built, then it won't come out of true enough for someone to notice while riding, unless the rim becomes bent from a large impact. If it's bent, then it has to bent back before striving for equal spoke tension. Straightening a bent rim is out of scope for this type of video. Also out of scope for the video is dishing (both for rotor mounts and cassettes) and how that affects spoke tension. There's also variation in materials (rim, spokes, nipples) that will prevent you from getting a wheel with perfectly balanced spoke tension. And of course, carbon vs alloy (carbon doesn't bend). With all that being said, I used to obsess over a true rim with rim brakes. Now with disc brakes, I don't care. I build the wheel with good techniques to ensure a strong wheel, that will stay true as long as possible, then rarely touch it again, wobbles and all (unless it's REALLY wobbling, .5" or more). Why? Because I can't tell the difference while riding if it's true or not, and the wobbles are likely from impacts that have bent the rim. I'll spend the extra time obsessing over something else that has more tangible benefits, like fork stiction. :)

[@larrydaniels6532]

This is spoken by a person that doesn't have a clue. Wheel strength is more important than trueness. Just wrong! I can build a perfectly strong wheel that is totally out of true and that would be a great mistake! Because both strength AND trueness are the goal. Maybe for a slow mountain bike with a low pressure tire, but even in that example - trueness is always obtainable and should never be passed off as too difficult to do. In an out of round condition (radial roundness-the primary component of trueness) the wheel will have to lift the center of gravity above a centerline and drop this center of gravity of the bike and the rider in each and every rotation of the wheel. This will destroy momentum, the unnecessary lifting and dropping (of the center of gravity) uses (wastes) the energy one puts into the bike for forward momentum. Again, if you are on a slow, low pressure tire on a mountain bike (that also is propelled by gravity a lot of the time that it isn't going slow), then who cares? A high quality road bike with far higher tire pressures on a real road (hopefully very smooth road) is another matter completely. Once you have experienced riding on really round wheels you know why it is worth the effort to get there.

[@pedaltherapy806]

The video shows a mountain bike wheel. Modern mountain bike tires are over 2" in width, and run at low pressures (~20 psi), ridden on dirt trails with lots of variability in trail surface. This makes it difficult to discern minor variations in radial and lateral trueness. I agree these variations may be more noticeable on a road bike with narrow tires, high pressures and smooth surfaces. Both strength and trueness are good goals, but spoke tension has to be equal for both (ignoring dishing for now). Bend a rim (where it's physically deformed), then get it true with just adjusting spoke tension, and you'll have uneven spoke tension. Not good. A true AND strong wheel is most certainly obtainable, but how far is one willing to go to obtain it? If the rim is deformed, it takes more than just tightening spokes to make it a strong wheel again. "Too difficult" is relative to the experience and knowledge of the person doing the maintenance. In my opinion, strength shouldn't be sacrificed for just a true wheel. This whole Park video is good, but our topic is explained well here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5OWY5tqhbCSl7c and here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5OWY5tqhbCSl7c Thanks for reading!

[@larrydaniels6532]

@@pedaltherapy806 I really don't know where truing a deformed rim comes into play? Every wheel I build or true has both strength and trueness, it is how things are done! No one would have a wheel that is pretty true and have spokes that are more than likely to fail or to detune themselves.

[@sharonburns2771]

I have been thinking about stringed instruments a lot in terms of adjusting shifter cables, but the conversation about spokes being sharp or flat is truly mind-blowing

[@duroxkilo]

great video. when things get super close to being true, every little detail counts.. for example i found that dirty spokes can lie to you: the friction between two crossing spokes will have a 'delay' in deforming the rim. everything is great on the stand and then after a few turns w/ your weight on the wheel you see a (new) wobble. so act accordingly: clean the spokes, lube the friction points, massage the parallel spokes, etc, when things don't seem to work.

[@timothybradek3560]

Interesting.. thanks.

[@LLroomtempJ-alt]

this was dope. i totally get it and i totally know that every time i need a true, i will just pay the ppl at my bike shop US $20-$40 to do the job. This would 100% be a useful skill to learn- AND i also value my time enough to know when i should stay in my lane. Thank you so much for this video. This format was excellent.

[@f444-f]

Thank you guys so much. Simple, Clear, everyday language people can understand. I really appreciate that so much!

[@ludwigvonn9889]

This is exactly what it looks like when a noob (us) is about to fix his spokes and all.. the whole thought process is there. Love it :D

[@torque-aholic5039]

Wow, somebody actually explained it in a way I can understand! I love the way the attractive youngin explains it, in layman terms.

[@monsword]

I like this channel as they show us who are not professional type enthusiasts how to fix an issue by using off the shelf tools most of people have in garage…..

[@edheide7229]

I could really relate when Syd said "help" as Iv`e been there. It also was very helpful to learn while you were learning. Now I`m a Subscriber. And I like that you recap at the end. A big thank you.

[@mattkavanaugh5623]

Great advice about using the tone of the spoke to figure out if it's loose or tight!

[@ChadLudlow]

Ya'll are always on point with a new tech tutorial for a maintenance item that I'm in need of performing!

[@sydfixesbikes]

We read minds 😜

[@ggebhard1]

Thanks!

[@lyndawkswks853]

Brilliant! Love the musical side of it.... a gem!!! Makes it so much easier!! Never thought of it thanks guys 😄

[@tylrbrksful]

I don't think I've ever commented on a youtube video before but felt compelled to for once. This video was so helpful and well done. I love the dynamic and the commentary is so relatable. Not sure if this was intentional (or if either of you are neurodivergent), but it felt very neurodivergent aware, particularly the comments about what Syd would do normally do out of frustration - This kind of commentary is very relatable and reassuring. Makes me wonder about the number of bike experts that might be neurodivergent. I could see NDs being frustrated away from bike maintenance but also NDs being drawn to it by the hatred of noises and the need to hyperfocus and delve in entirely to be successful. Anyway ... great video thank you so much!

[@filippomanoli230]

I really appreciate your way of doing video. You question, doubt and answer (and add little corrections post recording). You are really giving a colorfull lesson. Love your work! Hope you can keep it real also in future videos! :)

[@mrmeach1967]

Great video. It’s entertaining, which is sort of hard to do when your emphasis is educational. It’s also clever (and funny) by intelligently fumbling through Syd’s thought process. After watching the whole thing, I feel like the one-minute summary at the end is mainly what you get in most other wheel truing videos.

[@warbodean1226]

I must say this was truly informative and watchable. The music lesson also will go a long way towards truing my own wheels. I live and work in an undeveloped country and you have to rely on yourself to get things done and this will really help. Thanx.

[@camchannel88]

What a good video!! I will watch all the videos to ensure my bike is in top shape

[@torque-aholic5039]

And of course... great job from the teacher, well explained.

[@GROK815]

Never really thought about plucking the spokes to check tension difference. Very helpful video

[@jaysee2213]

Excellent video, I like the format of explaining it through someone who doesn't quite get it (just like I don't) makes it easier to understand from my point of view!! Thank you!

[@glenkersul8536]

The front wheel on my EBike has a bad wobble, you are now my official SPOKES-person. Thanks!!!!!

[@sydfixesbikes]

🤣

[@ANTheWhizkid]

This is what I´m trying to get better at. Thanks for the upload!

[@dalelynn7243]

Thank you very much. Have never attempted wheel maintenance, with that awesome video, I might just trust myself to give it a try when the need arises. Thank you 😁

[@deansimpson3231]

Truing a wheel has felt like magic until I watched this video. Not sure I could make a wheel true now, but at least it makes sense. Thanks!

[@OnCloud911]

Excellent video! Thank you for sharing! One tip I've learned for asymmetric rear wheels is that drive-side spokes will get tensioned more than rotor side. And (as you did in the video) you want to check "dish" repeatedly by flipping the wheel in the truing stand throughout the process. The rim can get off-center quickly if this is not given enough attention.

[@LukeDrew-l6u]

You two are brilliant at explaining and showing how to sort bikes out..

[@littlegoobie]

good job explaining the process. I don't know if it was mentioned in vid or comments, but listening for the note pitch to equalize the spoke tension only works if the wobble is from moderately untrue wheels from use and spoke stretch. If the wobble is from a hard impact or huge force that actually bends the rim (not dented, but put a good bend or wave in rim) you will not be able to pull that out with equal spoke tension with similar pitch notes on both sides. The rim would need to be bent back first.

[@johnd4788]

Wow, it really works. Just managed to fix the rim after watching your video. The buckle was tiny, but nevertheless, fixed it after using the knowledge from your vid.

[@mxracingunlimitedltd7784]

This is a great video for learning how to do this, especially on a nicer wheel with spoke spacing like this! I would also tend to squeeze the spokes as well flick them for the sound to check them. For regular bike wheels i would go to tightening the spokes first, to fix the untrue area on the truing stand because for the most part the spokes are on the loose side and you're only moving it a little bit most of the times anyway. If you hear the spoke make noise like its tight or its just obviously to tight, then i would switch to checking the spoke again and go for loosening them to fix the area then. However that's for a more normal wheel with more spokes than these nicer MTB wheels. Nice bigger & more expensive Mtb Wheels like these with very spaced spokes, make it hard to learn on i would feel like.. It's also just harder to get done as quick to have it perfect and done properly, but the quality of the better wheels definitely makes truing the wheel and keeping it true as you go versus cheaper bikes, much better and just more consistent. We would see a range of "cheaper" everyday mountain bikes up to 10k$+ mountain bikes and road bikes on a somewhat normal basis because of the sales volume, and at the time before covid, when a full suspension downhill bike was 3-4k$ for a Trek, Specialized or Santa Cruz. We were seeing at least one sold a day at least to build whether for customer or display model, and a few more over the weekend especially during the Summers. So we got to see and ride all of the cool bikes up and down the price range for bikes like that and also some other nice model like Giant, Cannondales, Custom build bikes, etc.. This was a good video! I loved to true the wheels as it was kind of satisfying to get a crappy 10$ wobbly wheel back going straight again lol or a really nice bike wheel like this and making it nice and perfect as possible for the guys bike. I would tend to true peoples wheels on the MTB's on the Bike Stand using the gap of wheel between the frame or where you can see easily on each side or the fork spacing on the front.. One thing i don't like is not having a double sided wheel truing stand, even if you're going to use only one side its still easier with the doubled sided truing stand.. Im sure i could get used to it, but it just feels like why not when its already a full wheel truing station..

[@bicycleworkshop1779]

Крутая мастерская, крутые инструменты. 👍 Может и я когда-то выйду на такой уровень профессионализма. Продвижения в работе.👍

[@DuccarVids]

Wow This is very informative I'm really getting confused on fixing my wheels I replaced my tires and interior but the wobble is still there Then I watched your Video i finally fixed it Keep up the Videos :)

[@ShreddinDirtyOutdoorAdventures]

Interesting point on the musical tone, actually made a lot of sense. I have a spoke tensioner and that will make it even easier to find which spoke it is off to focus on

[@mickp10]

Thanks

[@Bikes-n-Stuff]

Fantastic video thank you, going to try it now. For direction of spoke tightening, you can imagine using a screwdriver at the nipple, which follows righty-righty lefty-losey. then you're reversing it because you're doing it from the other side of the thread. Thats how I made sense of it anyway

[@unclemikeb]

Great video. I found this while wondering about truing a wheel. I had spokes on a motorcycle rim that were stuck, could not adjust them. Some were loose, I could tell by the tone when I tapped them with a tool. I had to remove the tire, and applied naval jelly to the nipple that was rusted to the rim. The nipple had an opening for torx tip so I used a 1/4 inch racket and turned them. They were loosened from the rim but still seized on the spoke. I soaked the spoke and nipple connection again with naval jelly but did not loosen up. So I got a bigger wrench, used the torx tip and the spokes snapped when I turned it hard. Then I found out you cannot change just one spoke on a motorcycle rim. They have a cross hatch pattern which means you can't swing the new spoke around inside the pattern with all the spokes in place. I had to remove about 1/3 of the spokes to get one new spoke in place. Big job. I ended up replacing ALL the spokes since several were quite rusted. That let me clean the inside of the rim so it was rust free. It should be good for another 21 years.

[@thomaswestcot7945]

I just adjusted the spokes on my back wheel. The 1000w hub motor makes adjustment necessary. With your help it only took about 20 minutes. 👍

[@glebivanovsky7886]

A tip for someone who is tone deaf (from someone who is tone deaf too): when tightening a spoke, loosen two adjacent spokes, which would pull to the opposite site, by half as much. And vice versa: when loosening a spoke, tighten two adjacent to it by half as much. This will keep the "total tension" the same, so you are not overtightening the wheel. And in my mind it will also reduce the risk of getting an egg-shaped wheel.

[@sebastianjost]

There are also apps that can imitate a tension-meter by recording the sound.

[@oldschooldude3500]

You guys are awesome. This is a very helpful video and explains in plain simple terms to follow along truing a wheel. Worked out great tonight. It's been a long time since I've done this and last times I did it took forever to do. Thanks. Please keep your videos coming.

[@keithengel2576]

I love the recap at the end! with at home solutions. Great explaination

[@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures]

Hey guys love these videos! Sorry if someone already mentioned this but you should always let all the air out of the tire when truing a wheel, if you tru it while inflated and then let the air out afterwards the rim can go out of tru again. Cheers

[@sydfixesbikes]

Interesting, we've never heard that...

[@WanderingEyeOutdoorAdventures]

@@sydfixesbikes it is something I was taught at a wheel building clinic many years ago and most the really good wheel guys I know do the same. If you check it out you will see there are many forums on the subject and many differing opinions as well. I know Macky is a solid mechanic and if what your doing is working than awesome just thought I would share my thoughts. One thing I will say is if anyone is truing a single walled rim I think letting the air out is even more beneficial. Cheers

[@LtPessimist]

the Tips on the sound of the spokes is a great help even for some1 making a wheel for their 1st time or 2nd time. I had to make a wheel last year for my recumbent trike, it was my 1st time and I managed to true mostly by eye and a little bit from a tool that i got from Ebay uk that works great but not for any of my front wheels. Your stand would be great for them. PS thanks for another great video.

[@JonReades]

The tuning technique totally saved my bacon on an emergency repair to my partner’s commuter bike: broken spoke and everything I did was making it even less true. Used the ‘spoke tuning’ approach was sorted in 5.

[@brianlingenfelter6426]

Hi ; I just got done truing my rear wheel on my KENT mtb. I had 2 cases where the single walled rim wouldn't gauge up right. It took me replacing better than half the spoke knipples on the wheel for it to line up right. This last trip I had the wheel in the truing stand with most of the spoke to be loose. Then the wheel trued up nicely. My singled walled rim was a pretzel at the start. I do find the video interesting. I rebuilt my KENT mtb all on my own. I still have 3 big things left to do on it. I like the truing stand you have Syd.

[@PaulBeiser]

This was awesome! The best explanation (and process) of what to do and how to do it. Thanks!

[@philrc1]

Luv these "Syd fixes bikes" vids. Nice work, Keep it up.

[@NM4500]

Danke!

[@lesio333]

Listening to the spoke tone makes so much sense. Of course. Thanks

[@RenegationPvP]

Vocalizing your thought process helped me understand it even in this sleepy state. I will attempt to true my wheel tomorrow! Thanks 😊

[@cruzmarchant8349]

This video is so much less confusing than other wheel tru videos!!! Now my wheels are finally in tru. 😃🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

[@chrisgenovese8188]

super helpful, with all the charm of you two interacting, and Syd learning with us!

[@landonthings]

“Learning together” was extremely helpful!!! Thanks fir the video y’all!

[@madyogi6164]

😊 Fun to watch. Small side note about that turning plugs/nipple clockwise or counterclockwise - check the wheel manual 1st, then turn! Wheels not requiring sealing or strengthening tapes inside, having closed flanges (tubeless dedicated), where spokes don't go full-through, can have plugs that tighten clockwise (like regular nuts), not counter-clockwise.

[@sydfixesbikes]

Good to know!

[@foxykc]

Am embarking on doing my own work and these videos are invaluable

[@chadfren]

Thanks Mackie! You always have the best advice. Fantastic work, Mackie.

[@davewright8206]

so much more A. informative B. entertaining than the one i watched before this one

[@glenangelos6025]

Its a great way to learn something,watching someone else learn! Very good and helpful video!

[@matthieudanneels5122]

The final thing I should do myself, great video, I'm gonna need to watch it 10 times at least

[@nelsonparra3797]

I love the idea of using the sound to determine which spoke to tighten. I have not seen that before and can't wait to try it. BTW if anyone is interested the truing stand is the Feedback Sports truing stand. I like the single arm set up so one side is clear to spin the wheel while holding the spoke you're working on. Plus they make a bottle opener that mounts to the stand.

[@luismanuelmiranda9795]

The best video ever to show you just exactly how to do it the right way i love hiw y'all broke it down and made it simple now off i go to try and do my wheel's

[@ethaniel_tweedy]

This is brilliant! Love the technique of checking the spoke sound. Thank you! 😊