EVO 2011 - SSF4 AE - Poongko (Seth) vs Filipino Champ (Dhalsim)

[@fonpotter]

Man, do you know the definition of cheap? When we say cheap, we mean that they must work way less than some other characters in order to win. It's a FACT that characters that have loads of "safe" options are "cheaper", at least when you're starting Street Fighter IV. It IS harder to win matches using characters like Ken, Cody, El fuerte and few others than it is when you use Blanka, Bison, Honda and few others. I'll repeat: Not talking about 5k + PP/tournament players here.

[@shinyslowpoke]

I still don't understand why Dhalsim's super didn't hit after his ultra.

[@Dirkdigglerdan]

Does anyone know why the Dhalsim Ultra into Super didn't work properly? Was Seth too high in the air for it to connect for all the hits?

[@XmasTablet]

Sorry I'm 10 years late, I think it's cos Seth fell backwards when hit by the ultra and when the super came out, Seth hit box was behind the super, so never connected

[@danielvitalidba5628]

Better late than never! 😂

[@Rui_The_Star]

Poongko is clutch. I love watching Champ lose.

[@TheCldmstrsn]

me too. champ has always been a douche

[@s3vster]

seth is a slow character? maybe if you measure speed by walking speed, which makes no sense in this game

[@dinoBMXidiot]

what the hell happend to the super at the end ?

[@awkwardcultism]

I always enjoy seeing matches with Seth K. commentating the character who was named after him.

[@KhasarDeTemplari]

What happened with Dhalsim's super? Never seen that happen before :S

[@sprinter223]

what stage is the street fighter tournament at now? i only seen up to top 8

[@MLGJeRiCHo]

ah thank u...i'm an halo player but i started street fighter online like few weeks ago so i don't know anything about events or pro gamers. Who's the best player in the world actually?

[@halavari69]

i mean which player was spamming in your opinion?

[@Looc105]

That was the most godlike Dhalsim play ever.

[@CAVALLIN0]

who won evo 2011?

[@s3vster]

what do you mean by fast? like he's in your face all the time, you have no time to think or breathing room? if so, i'd agree

[@CMBrannstrom]

What happens if they pause during gameplay that is not an ultra? A warning?

[@Kitsune81]

It's not that seth is such a good character, but that Poonko is just such an amazing player.

[@BlackHazama]

I've always thought of it that way too. And I love marvel, specifically mvc2 so seth is someone i'd like to get really good with.

[@EdwinDPZ]

That round start raw DP was beautiful

[@XeroForever]

he may have been spamming the spd, but its not as if fchamp couldn't get out of it, and it was still risky for poongko, especially if he guessed wrong and srked thinking fchamp would jump, but instead blocked. Lots of mind games.

[@Dirkdigglerdan]

Trust me, those nerves when you're on stage can kill you. If he didn't move, he probably would be involuntarily shaking.

[@skiie]

whats with the random start press?

[@beyondtherhetoric]

Poongko's top 8 play was crazy. Very aggressive. Too bad he didn't take it.

[@BenOmarbaOmar]

guys who WIN the EVO 2011 for SSFIV AE?

[@mowgli123456789]

props to f champ bowing at the end like a gentlemen

[@halavari69]

ummm. i could think of it as more of a risky mixup/mindgame thingy, because fchamp knows he could jump out of those spd's and punish, but he also knows that poongko could uppercut his jumping attempt. as poongko does 4:24. he dashes up, sim expects him to spd after that as he did before, seth knows that and uppercuts the jump. but seth is a pretty cheap character

[@mucamalol]

Poongko nos mostra que SETH é uma verdadeira máquina de bater.kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[@efTSjakie]

@Nevflinn Ye but i will take some Pre-boost workout stuff which is actualy for my workout to get some more energy. I will be using that on Sunday. I just do NOT WANNA miss the finals

[@BlakMastachief]

Anyone saying Seth is top tier doesn't really play street fighter. Seth only has a good situational advantage. He can't take one combo from 75% of the cast without being stunned or boarder line stunned. His damage output is below average and his anti air is complete ass (yes even his shoryu is 5F). Like I said before, he just has nice mixups and he leaves you with options to go to after anything that is the one real advantage Seth has as a character, and that alone doesn't make him a good char.

[@laudanum09]

and most top level players would disagree with you along with event hubs. look at tournament results for the history of AE and find me top 8 Seth players that win consistently besides Poongko. he might be of the lowest of the A or B rank but he's not S tier.

[@Moe598]

@elmerion A free patch is coming out later if you haven't heard already.

[@Smiley100000]

do you guys remember that one time in that one tournament there were 12 fuertes and 16 seths?

[@AKTxITACHI]

anyone know where i can find the vangeif match?

[@Renas88]

So you mean that everyone that uses a stick is not normal? what is the definition of normal? do you think you can decide? when this games first came to the market they were actually playing them with arcade sticks. so who is normal?

[@Hansolol_22]

@DontTaseM3Bro NCR?

[@thf241]

I think all the hate against F.Champ is getting to be a little over the top. Yes, he has the well-deserved reputation of an arrogant, immature jerk, but as far as I know he's really toned it down recently. And you can't deny his skill, especially considering he still plays sim. Just compare his performance against Poongko to Daigo's in top 8. Props to Poongko. His Seth is just about my favorite character to watch now. Absolutely sick.

[@lohagoskissos]

Eventhubs hosted Arcadia Magazine's Tier Lists so they cannot disagree with me. Also Arcadia Magazine's reflect's the thoughts of the top player's of the game (Japanese) as recorded in their tournaments like Godsgarden etc. Also I cant show you an American winning EVO on SF4 but that does not mean American's are bad players. It just means this is not the game they excell as opposed to CvS2.

[@DenizenofSBWR]

seth has great offence if you know how to pull it off. but he has low health so it is all balanced.

[@Mignon15]

I am a Seth player, but it doesn't mean shit. I admit Fei was OP when I mained him in AE (although I played him before he was top tier), and that Seth is at least top 5 in this game. But saying he's the most broken character ever is ridiculous.

[@perplexshytt]

as players, we have the choice to "intimidate" our opponents before a match. afterwards, win or lose, you can show your respect.

[@TheAcad3mic]

Sometimes it's a match loss, sometimes it's a straight up disqualification. More often than not a DQ.

[@FinerIntel]

YAY, YOU GOT YOUR VIDEOS BACK!!

[@AuspTheAwesome]

@Ruffies22 Where is the black guy?

[@megatonkick0079]

Because Capcom were the ones who made the Fighting game genre

[@Panthro-lo2lh]

@gc3k fchamp got screwed? like him or not, that was messed up.

[@BlackHazama]

Really? I think his options are insane, but I didn't think the best though. I actually play Cody right now and I love him! Been wanting to learn Ibuki too. Mix-up city! =)

[@MrIlovetopoo]

what i meant was i think his character design doesnt belong in street fighter. For me street fighter is a game based around footsies spacing and reads and while yes he does still conform to that somewhat the tools he has means a good seth doesnt need to play that game, he gets in for free with his wall dive and dive kick and has so many tools to abuse when he gets in. i know he has low stun but getting a full hit like that is only a possible with a full punish and enough meter

[@lohagoskissos]

OK. :) I was maining Dhalsim, but I'm more of a Tekken player than ever, and also, my time has been very limited the last couple of years....

[@tristanlesliehd]

anyone know why the super didnt work?

[@Ninjason1337]

is his name just Filipino Champ or is he really the Filipino Champ?

[@TWOjesus]

2:23 "AND THE CROWD IS ON THEIR FEET" one guy standing up -_-

[@ivatio]

Kuroda mains the entire cast of 3S. Wtf are you talking about? Many top players point him as being the best. Players such as Ino and MOV. Want to see results? Kuroda won Tougeki 2008 and 2010, and he did very well with Q on other oportunities. If I'm not mistaken he made his way to SBO (a 3 on 3 tournament) finals once using Q, and his only partner (Hayao I think) used Hugo. I think you don't know much about Kuroda. Research some matches of him on youtube. The guy is amazing.

[@MrTibbers]

I don't know what's mid-high for you. In super 2010 adon was C+ maybe B. He was placed around there in most tier lists. He moved up after gamerbee showed his potential. Check the tier list for your self. I wouldn't count being 15th/16th out of 35 chars "mid-high"

[@Fedkek]

nerf seth? stupid? in SSF4 they nerfed his long air arms i won 70% of battles with that so i switched to Chun-Li, Blanka & Gouken

[@CtheGful]

Great sportsmanship - poongko was spam command grabn but he had 2 cuz fchamp wouldve kept on blockn n teleportn- good play from both sides possibly the best dhalsim against possibly best seth - was worth watching

[@wrathofpain5]

Playing seth is like playing marvel while everyone else is playing street fighter.

[@Keksboii]

Playing Seth is like playing Rock Paper Scissors against someone else only that you have two more options tham him and also win if it would be a draw.

[@DrAstrophysics]

notice the hand shake in the end. a rare sight in street fighter

[@sg-hunter]

i agree with you. no idea wtf that guy is talking about. adon was not "mid-high" in super.

[@SoulSteallEx]

respect for using Dhalsim that was great.... btw why so much gay haters in comments, is not stupid to watch and comment in something u dont like? ...pretty much thx

[@efTSjakie]

Oh man thanks for the upload. i fel'd asleep while watching

[@neontetra1000]

I don't know what they were thinking with seth!?. And why do we always get hit by his divekick!?. That thing is a nightmare!. Well played by champ tho. Just an 8/2 match up. 9/1 when its poongko the machine.

[@stupidkaydoo]

i thought a pause during a match gets you disqualified

[@nighteyes08]

i think Poongko is meeting Daigo next according to the commentators. Wish him luck!

[@Baqsam]

LOL! I like the camera angle on the commentators. Looks like ESPN or something.

[@MrTibbers]

The only reason certain chars become top tier is because of people like poongko and daigo. Ryu is only mid-high tier now because Daigo unleashed his potential (Ryu would have been lower). Adon was low tier until Gamerbee showed what could be done. These people know so much about the game, that they make characters top tier. it's not right to say people who pick low tier know the game better. Some of these guys knew the game so well they made their character top tier.

[@HardRuisu]

You get owned by command grabs all the time? Stay free :)

[@danielmartin5608]

I'm not a troll, sir. I simply have watched a lot of these matches, and you obviously haven't.

[@quicktooth1]

Good fights; intense effort by the Phillipino champ; I see why he's got his title :D. Poongko was just the stronger one that match :D

[@lohagoskissos]

So you choose to dismiss what the top players think about it? You choose to pit a single unit (Seth) vs an antire population (US)? That is bad logic there. And when the Tier List changes (usually after nerfs/buffs of characters) I will be more than happy to take back my statement. As it is now my statement is preety much fine. And I wonder why you dont take PoongKO into account? He has been consistend with Seth in the past EVO's.

[@danielmartin5608]

Yeah, because there haven't been a million of those in the past or anything.

[@hollowedhope]

i used to think poongko had had a lucky break beating daigo in evo. until i saw this. he's got some serious (mind) game

[@tinchi101486]

Why say Dhalsim is cheap?? Use normal punch and kick to control moving of opponent is very common in KOF, I don't think there is any problem.

[@MrDeviander]

@MrIlovetopoo you obviously don't play seth in professional tournaments. Seth is so unstable as a character that Poongko making it into top 3 at EVO is a miracle.

[@zeekin]

absolutely stomped

[@e69alpha]

Why do Capcom's games get more hype and attention than any other game company? even if most of capcom's games are incomplete, broken and flawed. please help me

[@wrathofpain5]

He's pretty much the best character in the game.

[@MrMichaelBlackson]

yes that's why they're on EVO you know its not like its the biggest gaming event or anything :p

[@Gorionward]

you know Poongko is serious when he takes his belt off!

[@laudanum09]

Japanese are no longer the only top players of the game and tier lists constantly shift. Also about Evo, it doesn't mean Seth is a bad character. He's just not as good as the best in the game. You can't show me an American winning Evo but you can show me multiple making top 8. You can't say the same for Seth in any consistent sense. If a character is top tier and no one can use him to his theoretical fullest, then it's just on paper and doesn't really matter.

[@hiirus]

Start 1:23

[@fonpotter]

Lol ok. Go to any Street FIghter forum, make a pool: Which character is cheaper? Make 4 options: Ken, Cody, Blanka, Honda. Watch Blanka gettin 50% of the votes, Honda gettin 30%, Ken and Cody gettin 10% each.

[@kevinblargh3235]

He has tools from other characters put together at the expense of lower total health. I don't see your point.

[@lohagoskissos]

No one consider Seth a top tier? Arcadia Magazine and by extend Eventhubs is going to disagree with your opinion. Seth is top tier and has been there a long time.

[@RecardoRecardo]

@coastalmixx filipino champ got beaten by an unknown yun user :P it's not even against daigo... stil fchamp got owned by daigo's yun even though it was just a concept match. And yeah fchamp got owned again this time by poongko's "seth" :O

[@ssblade1]

Damn he's mean!!! The Machine vs The Beast AE Finals Evo 2011 Las Vegas!!!

[@ivatio]

Another monster in 3S is RX. I fucking love his Urien.

[@bullsrool]

@ShinDemon33 Sure is

[@sertaliozer1]

This video makes me happy to see F.Champ lose! that arrogant person should learn some manners when he is playing against the top players!

[@Nevflinn]

@efTSjakie You too? I was lying by my laptop, trying desperately to take in the next fight at 4 in the morning. Eventually I had to go to bed and miss the quarter-finals onwards. :(

[@lildrummerboy65]

:) watching poongko beat him was nice

[@BromanderShow]

that first round was hype as fuck

[@Realmasterorder]

Seth was too strong before the 2012 AE edition with his Fierce jumping dhalsim limbs

[@quicktooth1]

- Okay? I meant that he's really skilled at the game.

[@1NTEGR4]

Fchamp was listening to "All I Do Is Win".

[@speedyfeint]

i love watching poongko's seth

[@UnderwhelmingPlywood]

It's called teching. You should try it.

[@DrAstrophysics]

Not in youtube

[@MLGJeRiCHo]

are these guys pro gamers?

[@meu02136]

Yeah, because he's from the Philippines.

[@ChrisBabaganoosh]

Poongko went to level 2 and then it was all over