Mahler: Symphony No. 6 (with Score)

[@invamy7477]

The recapitulation in movement 1 is the most haunting music I've heard

[@BenEmberley]

timestamp pls?

[@frederickthegreat4801]

@@BenEmberley 17:22 is where it starts

[@DynastieArtistique]

How is it haunting? That’s one of the brighter moments of the movement. The most haunting part of first movement is the beginning of the coda for me

[@fmyoung]

I like the idea of inserting that slow part in it (which he also did in his 7th)

[@fmyoung]

The finale of this symphony is truly epic

[@Dylonely_9274]

@@fmyoung the whole symphony is

[@fmyoung]

@@Dylonely_9274 I suppose it is but I find the finale really highlights that it's like a battle of good against evil .

[@symphony-7526]

HAMMER 1 1:07:15 HAMMER 2 1:12:07

[@planetproofreading2234]

What about 3? The death blow at the end... Would you compare this emotionally to Beeth. 5 M1? Ab Ab AB F~~

[@WolfgangXP65-67]

@@planetproofreading2234 I listened for the third and for some reason it didn't blow that time? Why? THAT'S THE DEATH BLOW 😭

[@Quotenwagnerianer]

@@WolfgangXP65-67 Because Mahler revised it and dropped the 3rd blow.

[@orionsuniversepart2932]

HAMMER 3: 1:22:09

[@FantasticOjisan]

@@orionsuniversepart2932 No,that's Große Trommel (Bass Drum)😉

[@u.v.s.5583]

This composition is the hammer!

[@Dylonely_9274]

G. Mahler was probably ahead of his time.

[@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru]

The hammer was invented circa 30,000 BCE, so he is a bit behind

[@porkyminch5131]

@@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru Hhehehe

[@phoneminlwin5160]

Yes, he predicted it

[@fmyoung]

Many of these classical composers were ahead of their time

[@fmyoung]

Or for that matter artists in general are ahead of their time (and often misunderstood as a result)

[@fmyoung]

Mahler changed the order of the inner movts a few years later (i e Andante 2nd and Scherzo 3rd) but reportedly changed his mind again shortly before he died in favor of the original order (played here). Not everyone at the time learned of the change back to Scherzo-Andante though (or so I hear) so that Mahler's intended order for the inner movts is still a matter of hot debate to this day and that's why the 6th is still also performed with the Andante ahead of the Scherzo. (Claudio Abbado, for just one, performed the Andante-Scherzo version in at least one concert .)

[@klop4228]

He changed the order of the inner movements just before the premiere, and the only person who reported he changed his mind was Alma Mahler, who also sometimes referred to the Andante as the "second movement", so was just inconsistent. Mahler never performed it Scherzo-Andante in his life.

[@fmyoung]

@@klop4228 I guess we'll never know it's all hotly debated to this day

[@fmyoung]

@@klop4228 In October 1919 Alma eventually telegrammed conductor Willem Mengelberg "First Scherzo then Andante affectionately Alma"

[@klop4228]

@@fmyoung But Alma is not Gustav, first of all - why should her opinion supercede that of the composer? And secondly, when Eduard vom Beinum asked her in 1955, she gave the opposite answer, meaning that if we take her as the authority, she doesn't even really give an answer. All we have left is what the composer did in his lifetime. And what he did was perform Andante first.

[@fmyoung]

@@klop4228 I didn't say or imply that he didn't

[@pseudotonal]

Excellent hammer blow!

[@fmyoung]

I like that slow part during the recapitulation in the 1st movt He did the same thing in his 7th

[@jorryny3726]

ads in the middle of mahler :(

[@shalthepal6513]

disgraceful >:(

[@wyatthagerty8966]

:(

[@cheeseman1195]

It's 2024 and people still don't know how to download adblocker.

[@shalthepal6513]

wait, one can have adblocker on phone?

[@vizzwizz]

@@shalthepal6513 you deserve every ad you've ever watched

[@music.tv.29]

2:06 24:40 24:59 53:52 54:16

[@AP47735]

Anyone else think that the first and last movements of this performance are a little slow?? Or am I just used to faster tempos?

[@remomazzetti8757]

Mahler's suggested timings were: 22, 11, 14, and 30. I agree this performance is too slow, and there's a later performance by this conductor that's even slower.

[@sageobrien6776]

I think the first movement was certainly rather slow, although I like a dragging finale here, personally

[@kalles8789]

Yes!

[@johnwiand1167]

I agree, but I appreciate the different interpretation

[@randomguy4488]

The tempo of the finale feels perfect to me. The first movement is unusually slow, but I think it’s an interesting interpretation that works quite well here because of the special attention Gielen paid to making it so heavy, especially the low brass. It feels like the inevitable march of fate

[@fmyoung]

Mahler was a genius

[@togrulazizli9868]

Putting ad just before the second hammer! : ((

[@JestonSun]

Can you do Hungarian Dances no 2 by Brahmas?

[@vlad.oholicc9012]

10:31

[@granttherock9121]

1:07:00 mahler 8

[@えんどぅぼーん]

ありがたいけど、まじで曲中に広告入れるのはやめて欲しい。ありがたいけど

[@동_강]

1:11:59

[@hithuuuurrr9517]

51:50-52:15 😢🎉😮

[@WolfgangXP65-67]

Let's be real, this has, and always will be Thor's Symphony 😂.

[@f.p.2010]

what even does this mean

[@WolfgangXP65-67]

@@f.p.2010 Thor's Sledgehammer fr lol. If u still don't know, look up Marvel: Thor

[@jasonfinnell1996]

Nope

[@jasonfinnell1996]

@@f.p.2010 i think he ws making a joke??? regarding the giant wooden mallet used in this piece🙄

[@f.p.2010]

@@jasonfinnell1996 yeah I found the connection too stupid to see actual meaning behind

[@Albrecht-to9lm]

2:54

[@EminAnimE1]

50:19

[@jamesbastani4295]

Wow, that’s slow! Compare with Solti and Chicago!

[@granttherock9121]

56:04

[@ChillinDylan2875]

0:05

[@Toffeethegoldfish]

1:22:10

[@jamesbond4830]

1:12:00 1:00:50

[@FocusMrbjarke]

Lame symphony to be honest. No I can’t do better and just being critical :/

[@klop4228]

I disagree with you, but you could be the best composer in the world and still be wrong :P Nah, kidding. I just like to stand against the "could you do better?" crowd, because you don't have to be a barber to recognise a bad haircut.

[@FocusMrbjarke]

@@klop4228 i had a conversation with my composition teacher about my opinion about Mahler. I think it’s clearly that I don’t have a deep enough understanding to grasp Mahler I guess. There are so many details which are highly thought through. We talked about 3 minutes of music for 1 hour straight. I am open to be highly wrong in this situation and will continue to listen to this symphony through out to refine my experience of it. Perhaps it’s just not to my taste but i am willing to be wrong and admit it if get better insight on this well crafted symphony. May have start out as a bad first experience for me but perhaps it will grow.

[@klop4228]

@@FocusMrbjarke It might honestly also just not be for you. I love this piece, but I hate Mahler's first two symphonies (which I hear is an unpopular opinion haha). And don't get me started on Bruckner. But, like, as long as you're always trying to understand things better, you can be confident in your opinions. And if you feel like you understand something well enough to say "no, that's not good", then stand strong behind your opinion! Just don't dismiss things you don't understand as "bad", and you're fine. At least in my opinion!

[@FocusMrbjarke]

@@klop4228 I think you are right. Having a clear well defined argument for ones opinion certenly makes ones opinion more grounded! :) I think it was also a mistake i made just defining it as lame is not a well defined argument. But I will work on it on going. I think it is interesting to have diffrent opnions. Because perhaps i am wrong and might learn something new.

[@ddf72778]

​@@FocusMrbjarkejust try solti or currentzis perfomance, not that

[@suisui5514]

1:12:07

[@granttherock9121]

54:49