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07:22 - Software, DSM vs UGOS
21:52 - Support and Availability
24:36 - Conclusion - Which NAS Should You Buy?
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[@StunnaGunna]

Proud owner of the DXP8800-Plus, but did in fact install Unraid on it. Your videos were the sole reason for my purchase and I wouldn't be surprised if every backer has seen your videos as well as UGREEN. Love the additional videos you're doing in the series.

[@jodajackson4489]

Same here, I backed the DXP8800 Plus. However, I opted to stick with UGOS at least for a while if for no other reason then to see how well UGreen supports / updates the OS. It’s fair to say that I can’t predict how long I’ll hold out on UGOS though because simple things like accessing external storage (USB stick, RAID Enclosure ect) can’t be done outside of the UGOS. In other words there is no path to point Apple Finder or Windows File Explorer to. So yeah, UnRAID is looking really good about now.

[@acupunk7379]

@@jodajackson4489 When the UGOS shipped without docker and unable to update other than manual, unraid it was. Glad I did.

[@j.w.u.5728]

@@jodajackson4489 Got my DXP8800 Plus last Thursday. So far I didn't have time to unpack yet...hopefully next weekend. It will serve as a backup storage of my other 3 NAS systems so if those fail I can get the data of the UGREEN NAS (which is installed at another location if the house burns down, etc.). Just for the fun of it I might throw in 2x32 GB of RAM to test that as well. I'll play a little bit with the options and alternative software solutions but in the end the basic stuff should be all I need.

[@condon4355]

I bought the Ugreen Nas 6 Bay through your videos and recommendation and I still don't regret it. Thanks for that👍

[@tankspl7]

I received my DXP8800-Plus a couple of weeks ago. Promptly upgraded RAM to 64GB and installed TrueNAS Scale on it. Couldn't be happier, hardware was all I cared about so software by others was not a factor.

[@TMSoYT]

Same here. Only the hardware aspect is of interest for me.

[@john_in_phoenix]

I ordered the 6 bay, and finally this weekend received notice that it should arrive tomorrow. Synology has great software, but they are really dropping the ball on hardware. Synology should be concerned about this perception, since I own 3 of their NAS.

[@jodajackson4489]

I backed the DXP8800 Plus 8 bay model and received it on June 6th. I also have a Synology DS1815+ which is upgradable to DSM 7 but apparently isn’t continuing OS supporting beyond its initial 7.x release. It’s outfitted with an Atom C2000 series SoC which was anemic the day it was launched and totally inadequate by today’s standards. Synology really needs to step up its hardware game.

[@EViL3666]

Can't agree more - I think they've pushed their luck other past 4-5 year, with all the drama of drive and hardware compatability, but the final nail in the coffin for me was using a 5-6 year old CPU in x23 models, aswell failure to include 2.5GbE NICS...

[@leexgx]

I have noticed a lot of units lower then 16+ are not getting 7.2 update (stuck on 7.1 without security updates, quite a lot of people are still on 6.2 because it's not been offered automatically via automatic update)

[@diydvr]

UGreen NAS has a great look!

[@ascii115]

I have the 4800plus and in the process of migrating my data from my Synology to it. For my use case as backup target and media server, the ugreen Software is enough. Couldn't be happier about the hardware! With 40% off, the Kickstarter price was a steal ;-)

[@draginator6]

Same! The value for the hardware on the 4800plus is fantastic, I just loaded it up with 72tb and am having fun learning docker and playing with it.

[@praetorxyn]

UGreen with TrueNAS Scale on it, of the two.

[@nadtz]

The fact that you can put any OS on it + the better hardware, it's a no brainer unless you are stuck in with Synology.

[@jodajackson4489]

Another excellent video. Fair to say that a comparison is applicable now that the Kickstarter has concluded. Early days yet but they’ve jumped into the deep end now,….lets see if UGreen can swim. Since many of us UGreen NAS users will likely install a third party OS, it might be beneficial to have a UGOS backup / OS image tutorial. I say this because presumably some of the warranty support is dependent on the native OS and there doesn’t seem to be a UGreen UGOS download repository.

[@bieffe2206]

Excellent video as usual I am watching them all because I would like one but in Italy we do not know if and when they will sell it. I found one on EBay but then the warranty? The updates?

[@spirecz]

Unfortunately Synology slept on their gem software with outdated hardware and shitty HDD/SSD restrictions.. I am looking for other options. Solid NAS hardware with software of my choice will be a way to go. Ofc Xpenology users will do their thing.

[@xellaz]

Basically, if you haven't had a NAS before and wants something that just work... get a Synology NAS. If you want a basic NAS with good hardware and you know your way on how to tinker in Linux & docker, getting a UGreen NAS can be fun and adventurous! 😘

[@Lorondos]

The race is on for the first practical and affordable Lunarlake NAS!

[@craigshaffer4023]

Intel was complacent with their CPUs until AMD released their Ryzen line. Competition is nice here, as Synology and QNAP have not updated their hardware in what... 7 years?

[@mogelbar1020]

My dream NAS would be a DXP6800 pro running DSM7 😎

[@UnderLoK]

Have the 6800, swapped the stock nvme out, upgraded the ram, loaded TrueNAS on it, and currently testing all my drives. No complaints thus far and this thing was impossible to beat when looking at the hardware. For those of us that are in IT or tinker it was a no-brainer.

[@wtdata]

I've got a Ugreen Nasync, and it's very good on the hardware side. I'm just going to replace the 140mm fan for a quieter one. And the UGOS is actually usable and improving quickly. It still needs work, but I was expecting much worse. Having said this, I've installed TrueNAS Scale on it for the time being. In some months from now, I'm going to see the improvements on the Ugreen and evaluate if I should change back.

[@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios]

Please install Unraid as a video for Ugreen.

[@Ultrajamz]

Really painful waiting for synology nas hardware updates…

[@jasperverkroost]

I wonder if we get anything new in 2024.

[@PolarRed]

@@jasperverkroost doesn't look like it for anything below enterprise! It's almost like they're just not interested in any of their users between basic level and larger business users!

[@jasperverkroost]

@@PolarRed I'm still hopeful. If there's still nothing this time next year, I am gonna agree with you.

[@racecrashrepeat]

It's like they don't give a shit anymore. Those cpu costs to them are like $12 lol

[@racecrashrepeat]

@@jasperverkroost only the XS series got updated with their HDD lock to only use their drives. Ugreen with their nassync range will hopefully be the new home choice

[@havok97818]

I really kinda wish I had the money to hold on for the Kickstarter because it was such a great deal, but unfortunately, I had to let it go. But if you're right about the MSRP pricing, I'd still be curious to see what the actual pricing breaks down to at official retail launch, because I'm sure from a hardware perspective it will still be a better bang for the buck than other options currently available.

[@Adrian_VB]

Can you revisit the ugreen nas when the software is finished or in 1 to 2 year and do a software review to see what has changed and improved in that time

[@Redlinehmf]

Thanks again. I asked a ? About your Plex vid. I installed before your vid but without the /data and /transcode folder. ? What does the / data folder do? My Plex works without it. Also does the /transcode folder make HT to work? Numerous people say HT won’t work with the UGREEN docker install. Thanks.

[@7rich79]

In the app center on Ugreen, what format is used for the manual install of apps? Is it a proprietary format like the Synology SPK?

[@bowser5]

With all the new ugreen users out there I would love to see a docker overview/walkthrough. Almost a docker basics as it relates to the ugreen app. Maybe walk through an install and discuss how docker works, what the settings mean, how to read/follow documentation, and how they are setup in the Ugreen OS

[@PreDaToReLeaSeD]

if i need mix and matched drive sizes and 12 bays minimum am i forced to go with synology with script to allow for unsupported drives or terramaster TRAID with buggy/unreliable software, Are there other options? from what i can tell even for custom systems the only properly allowing for mix and match is unraid but from playing around with it seems alittle unfinished and no built in scrubbing/bitrot prevention, am i wrong, are there other choices? thanks

[@Airbag888]

Can you please comment on the power draw at idle (with 1nvme+ and 3 sata+ drives) and while writing and reading files saturating the 10gbe link on the ugreen?

[@PolarRed]

Just had to get a new NAS, and I went with another Synology. I'd love the better hardware of the UGreen, but at the end of the day I just can't trust all my work and data to something that still isn't proven. Maybe with the next upgrade, and if Synology still haven't woken up and upped their hardware offer, I'll go with a UGreen if the OS has matured. Just can't take the risk with my real word stuff. If I can get one cheap though, I might just pull the trigger for a little hobby project.

[@DrivingPhilippines]

Exactly. The Synology just works, and very well. I can trust that my data is safe. DS218+, lifetime of photos and videos. 3-2-1 backup. Connected to an APC pure sine wave UPS, and hasn't let me down in 6+ years. Unifi controller, Drive, Photos, Home Assistant, 8 cameras running. All 24/7, accessible by TailScale VPN. Love it!

[@ClubCommonSense]

If you want easy but restrictive software and reliable but antique hardware, go with the Synology. If you prefer flexibility through cli, don’t go with Synology. After over a decade with Synology, Ugreen looks like a potential new direction.

[@franktothemax]

I also have the 3-bay UGREEN NAS and it seems promising so far. I just cannot get the AI models to work in my photos folder no matter what, and I feel like I’ve tried everything at this point. Very frustrating, and it’s making me hesitant to move all of my stuff over if I’m gonna have to format and restart all over to get the models working.

[@gutlesswarrior]

Any news on when the retail release will be?

[@KOTOVSKUA]

Help. Has anyone tested a board for ssd disks from another manufacturer? Judging by the board of this brand, it does not differ from its analogues M2D20 card.

[@maxvorobey1316]

How can you buy a ugreen today? Is it available or not yet?

[@jeffwaite7413]

For someone who has never thought about having a NAS, and knows nothing about them, I am just wanting to make it a movie and music server, I have a couple questions. What are the hdmi, thunderbolt and other ports used for? I just received my ugreen DXP4800 plus and am currently watching videos trying to understand what everything is for. From what I have seen, I think I should have got a DAS System, but now have a NAS and want to show movies on my Apple TV units. Should I sell the NAS and get a DAS? Thank you for your input.

[@Globalnet626]

No you absolutely want a NAS for this purpose. You need to look at installing Plex or Jellyfin (Plex for ease of use, Jellyfin for more privacy) and both of these apps when done right will serve media to any device in your network, or outside it if you want.

[@smilesrs8516]

Can't wait for the top line Jonsbo 5 build?

[@BenReese]

I know it's a gray area legally, but how about Xpenology on the Ugreen hardware? I haven't seen much info about people trying it. Could really give the best of both worlds!

[@RalfWeyer]

Let’s see the next 2-3 years and where all of the NAS manufacturers will go in terms of hardware, software, security and support. But quite honestly from my point of view a push in that area is very welcome, and this certainly has been done by Ugreen.

[@JohnSmith-zl8rz]

take that Synology!!!!!!!

[@hhuey5]

Can ugreen run windows 11?? Without any changes??

[@Popcorncandy09]

When are they going to release to UK....

[@ZoneProduction448]

Me too.

[@yourpcmd]

Buy Synology if you want stability. Buy Ugreen if you want to charge your phone.

[@YouTubePentium]

I recon a better comparison, is Terramaster vs Ugreen, as they are closer to each other than Synology, in terms of price and software (TOS)

[@lewislane1143]

Hands down Ugreen.

[@danny_the_K]

I on a Synology NAS, but I will be seriously looking at the UGreen products. The pricing of NAS systems is out of touch with the user. Synology should be way ahead, but long in the tooth. UGreen has to make a Synology-like interface while innovating there too. Time will tell, butI’m glad they’re here.

[@SilverSmrfr]

The biggest problem of the UGREEN NAS systems is the power consumption imo. If it wasn't for that I would have bought one.

[@sg.johnlim]

Hope UGreen takes on both the top two brands with better pricing and newer hardware. The top brands use old hardware but charge a ridiculous premium price.

[@VaticanTop]

the UGREEN software is enough for most people. It's a superior NAS end of story.

[@chrismierzwinski1398]

I wonder if truenas can be installed on ugreen nas

[@ccfan777]

It can. Many people have done it already… along with proxmox, unraid. Seems like a good chunk of people are going that route since UGOS is unreliable.

[@AllelineNguyen]

This is a fair comparison. UGreen NAS is still not as battle tested as Synology at this time, and I think it might be worth it for someone who wants to buy their first NAS and has nothing to lose; but it might not be as worth it for people who already have a NAS setup that they don't want to risk messing up.

[@philindeblanc]

Ultimately its price, so if Ugreen keeps it close to their launch, as I hope, then they will sell. if not, they will have a turnoff crowd, and it will stay as a slow sale.Nothing hard these days to get a small or mini PC and run it as a NAS.

[@mstickler68]

As someone who is running unraid on a UGreen DXP4800-Plus I don't think the interesting or fair comparison is UGreen vs Synology it's UGreen vs DIY. The UGOS is too new and too unreliable for anyone who needs a rock solid storage solution to trust it where as synology's NASs just work. That said you get good hardware at a price that is only slightly more than DIY when you buy the UGreen (assuming a small discount over suggested retail). So it makes a convenient platform to install UNRaid, Trunas, Proxmox or similar OS on - at which point it blows synology out of the water.

[@clio571]

Ugreen official channel in taobao is selling similar kickstarter backer price now. For the backers, please don’t think you are getting special price.

[@remusn]

I watch this channel for the seagulls ❤

[@jeffnew1213]

Not really fair to compare an OS from a shipping-for-a-week NAS vs one that's got 25 years behind it. I so wish I had ordered an 8-bay unit on Kickstarter. I did get the all-flash unit, which is very nice, but I don't actually have a use for it.

[@nascompares]

I would agree that's it's unfair.....buuuuuut... Hundreds of users have requested this (backers and non backers), as well as (genuinely) UGREEN themselves! They asked me if I would do a Vs right the way back when the Kickstarter was live, and I declined (as I covered in the intro for this vid, because of crowdfunding Vs retail). Bottom line, users want to buy the right solution for their needs right now...I can't just ignore the OS...

[@jasperverkroost]

​@@nascomparesI don't see myself buying a UGreen NAS anytime soon, but I do like that you keep us up to date about what's happening in the NAS-world.

[@jeffnew1213]

@@nascompares So far, it seems that Ugreen is (American)/are (British) pouring a lot of effort into the software. Let's give it a year or so -- yes a very long time in the industry -- and see if they can approach Asustor, TerraMaster, maybe QNAP in fit, finish, and functionality. I'm pulling for them. ...And the seagulls.

[@florihae]

Got a Synology because it has easy Software and a lot of very good Documentation. Maybe one day I will upgrade to something else...but honestly, I have more CPU on that Synology then my first gaming PC, so I am good 😂

[@AlexandreRacine]

Ugreen will be awsome.... later, for competition.

[@InspectorGadget2014]

Things indeed seemed to have changed; Synology is apparently abandoning the home/SoHo market? Or at least not putting much more efforts into it, no new models/updates for such users? I guess Synology has put their heads down and now leave it to the competitors, so it seems? Yes, Synology's software seems to be the more smoother experiences but at a very hefty price. (and, to me, not that impressive hardware...) With all due respect, the fact that UGreen opted to (limited-region) crowd-funding I find a very odd choice. And to me personally, UGreen is still to me a charger-company, not a NAS company, they just started in that arena. If any, I would wait another year to learn how UGreen progresses. One piece of software, like UGreen is easier to maintain than a catalog of applications? If I would be in the market for such a solution, I would most definitely go for a Jonsbo solution or perhaps SilverStone and roll my own. BTW, recently Synology was also attacked by ransomware, surprised you seemed not to give attention to that?

[@InspectorGadget2014]

And add the upcoming HexOS to your DIY, that would be a true killer solution, to me...

[@nadtz]

@@InspectorGadget2014 Depends on HexOS pricing, otherwise just take the time to learn TrueNas, yes more of a pain in the butt but once you understand it it works really well.

[@technicommedia]

Think Synology would license their OS to be used on UGREEN NAS?

[@nascompares]

Lol never in a million years!!!

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Imo, synology Android apps suck. The audio app has antiquated interface and it's very inconvenient to use. Their app for notes isn't even compatible with my sgs22. Their video app I don't even want to mention, it's useless. And actually I don't like many apps, you have to log in separately, think which app to laugh in each case... There should be options to launch the single app to the needed section from the launcher (one could do it via a widget and activities which you could call from any advanced launcher, so that you could open e.g. audio, file manager, and photos individually

[@deepblu3.]

Synology moving away from the prosumer market, is making all of us to become proficient with Truenas and connected apps that replicate Synology's functionality. This will impact Synology's future market share.

[@EViL3666]

I do take exception with the statement of "Synology's do not support them", its not that Synology does not support specific HDD's, RAM or NVMe's. As they do support them - all drives, RAM, NVMe etc follow strict industry standards, and that is baked into the Linux kernel. No, the real issue is, Synology trying evey trick to discourage this, in efforts to upsell their own branded components... which let face it, they don't actually create, they are just generic components with a Synology sticker on it,... then sold with a 300-400% mark-up.

[@nascompares]

I didn't say 'they are not compatible with Synology's, I said 'Synology does not support them' . Trust me, we are in agreement!

[@pabloeskibar8076]

hi

[@conradseba]

I had the worst weekend fighting the shortcomings of this new NAS with UGOS. I've the 6-bay pro one, and let alone the SW limitations, every single reboot it would have problems recognizing the HDDs, every single time I've to repair the RAID. This is the most unreliable piece of HW I ever bought.

[@jodajackson4489]

Out of curiosity what version(s) of UGOS is your DXP8600 Pro currently on? My DXP8800 Plus is currently running version 1.0.0.0940 and I haven’t encountered any of the issues you’ve cited. The issues I’ve seen are long RAID sync due to initial setup (about 48hrs give or take)l. Adding an additional 16TB to the pool / volume after initial sync in order to expand the volume took about 10 days (with the Volume half full ~25TB). Removing an SSD cache is still ongoing (should only take a few seconds). Annoying but it’s been stable overall.

[@guyvanhout3093]

UGREEN has 13.5K backers already , not 6K .. they way over that !

[@jasperverkroost]

I wonder how many NAS-buyers do need the extra hardware power that UGreen offers. I might be wrong but I think that the typical NAS-user uses his NAS for Plex, music, photos, data backup/storage and some Docker-containers.

[@nadtz]

You can find people complaining about Synology hardware and prices all the time on reddit so it's definitely a thing people want and people have been patiently waiting for updated models just for Synology to only announce Enterprise stuff. Ugreen (probably by accident) timed this release perfectly, not like they are going to put Synology out of business or anything but definitely right place and time to possibly grab some of Synology's consumer/soho marketshare for those users who aren't so locked into Synology and maybe don't mind a bit of DIY.

[@marklewus5468]

Who wants to place a wager on how long it’s going to take for the first crypto locker to hit Ugreen’s OS? I would rather run DSM on a brick than any brand new operating system on shiny new hardware.

[@jodajackson4489]

Presumably a number of UGreen NAS users are using 3rd party OSes right out the gate. I opted to test out UGreen UGOS on my new DXP8800 Plus 8 bay NAS but everything I’m putting on it is duplicated in two other location. Therefore if it is a crypto locker attack nothing will be lost.

[@philindeblanc]

Oh come on! How much software do you need for a NAS? lol...I have had my junky Synology 6Bay that cost almost 1000$(company paid for it, I would never buy it at half that prioce, just build my own with Free NAS), and Synology is slow loud DOG! The SSD, and the connectivity is great on UGreen. Also Synology is constantly updating and some features are gone, AND some are bloating...Besides their hardware on this one at least had issues, and they DENIED fixing their bad chip/transistors or power supply issue that is ALL over the internet is a shame on them for support.

[@roopey]

What bothers me about Synology and others is the exactly the applications. Yeah, some are handy and all. But it's a NAS, not a Server. Make it secure, fast, efficient and usable. Don't waste resources on gimmicky features and crap. Maybe VM and Container support... If necessary Applications should run on a separate System. Period.

[@russellmm]

while it is nice to see the comparison, the UGREEN NAS can't even be purchased.

[@ThePaulpope]

...If I never hear the word Ugreen ever again it will be too fucking soon...

[@TazzSmk]

ugreen website is already terrible to begin with, no traces of ugreen nas, so I give 0 points for any support so far, meanwhile synology dsm can be downloaded onto xpenology without buying actual hardware to get a better idea what to buy...

[@twinssword]

Very weak comparison since xpenology is not even allowed and a third party open source project. To be fair, testing xpenology in a vm nowadays might be easier and is always a good idea (demo). Ugreen not updating their website is bad, but a easy fix probably because it at the moment a Kickstart project with no official hard launch (next month official?)

[@protecteratr]

For some reason my comment keeps getting removed but it is listed under a new sub domain.

[@TazzSmk]

@@twinssword we'll see how the release goes, because having a NAS without ability to reinstall is a no-go and I do hope ugreen will have images/installers once their NASes go live :)

[@protecteratr]

@TazzSmk ​That is also on the sub domain website. At least a image file that some have used and reinstalled it per reddit.

[@barrykirkby9626]

It's all well and good talking about Ugreen stuff but the problem is they are not available unless you spend wonga on a kickstarter - which I personally woild never do with a company as big as this, it basically means they don't have any risks whatsoever but the poor sod paying the wonga could if it all goes tits up, which many do. It seems they have built enough units for the KZbin pluggers. What I want to know is when they will be available on the general market.

[@jodajackson4489]

I can’t speak for anyone else but tech support info was given before receiving my DXP8800 Plus and presumably the unit has a 3 yr warranty.