SZC #46 - All-star 4v4 turns into an epic struggle in this tournament decider

[@TheDksoul]

So at 3:45 Luvnest plants an early teller on the edge of the Munitions point and I am pretty sure that the glider called in from RedTerror at 22:55 is triggering the Teller while landing. Innovative use of Sweepers I must say... The Jarl Approves!!! EDIT: Just rewatched pretty sure the Mandos actually didnt get out of the plane, they died... Best use of Teller i have seen in a while 50 Muni for 390 MP investment.... Seems Worth, The Jarl retracts and reaproves!!!

[@CawsForConcern]

Incredible spot, and an excellent mine.

[@AECoH]

Oh wow excellent spot, if only I had played more brits over the years I would have spottedt the glider was RIP.

[@TheDksoul]

@@AECoH Rank 1 Brits still flow in my veins... it might be fading but it it still there... for now... (Aimstrong would be proud)

[@Theodoric99]

Holy shit that's hilarous

[@timmychoi75]

The allied giving up the fuel point in the south costs them the game, the relentless spam of vehicles in the late game by the axis cannot be stopped.

[@meyerdigitalfilm]

AE your moderation is legendary!Best coh caster imho. Funny, entertaining but always on point. Keep it up. Dennis from Deutschland

[@MaguroTuna]

4v4 always is fun to watch.

[@kokosiki40]

Nazi is imbalance in long games

[@seanattaway3616]

Dude allies should have been sending in a kamikaze medium every now and then to contain that artillery spam

[@AG-qo5vt]

Exactly! They just showered with rockets the whole game

[@comradekalininkalinych2006]

Relic should most certainly nerf the Stuka zu Fuss.

[@stsk7]

That Spammer had 4 of em that's nonsense

[@nehcrum]

@@stsk7 Meh, it means he had less of a front line to protect them. It's not the Stuka zu Fuss that is broken, it's rocket artillery in general and especially in large team vs team games where the map is just too small so you can just blindfire and you'll almost always hit something.

[@ubchnfhnbh2278]

3 years on and it's never gonna happen

[@shadow7988]

I applaud the allied team but honestly did anyone think it wasn't gonna end with an Axis victory when it's 4v4 AND Steppes of all maps? lmao.

[@hieirgaftien2977]

idk they had axis down to 11 points lol

[@u.b.5366]

I believe the 2nd glider indeed crashed and died midflight ramming the VP pole killing its commandos. I feel like a commander like german infantry wouldve been better than sturm. Having a stormtrooper or two with vet3 in the craterfilled nomansland givs great AI and vision.

[@AECoH]

Good aircraft accident investigation, watching 4v4 often becomes this!

[@elektrotehnik94]

Thank you for the movie references, Patton (1970) was a worthwhile watch for any COH geek :D

[@rustyshackleford9637]

Interesting conspiracy theory: Patton was assassinated for publicly stating that "we had defeated the wrong enemy" and that we should have allied with the Germans and fought the Russians. History sure might look a lot different.

[@ex-PARROT]

Great job on the strategic cast. Also full credit to Helping Hans for the original manic and epic game cast. Well played and thank you to all 8 players too of course.

[@Syrdur]

I would love to be able to zoom out like that ingame.

[@FizzleFX]

I feel exhausted just watching this!!

[@istvanszoke381]

What an epic axis blitzkrieg that was!

[@hardwankinman558]

doesnt tora mean like tiger said by high ranking guy when the war declaration arrived too late (before Pearl HArbour attack)?

[@robertmurry1442]

absolutely stupendous indeed...

[@IamAWESOME3980]

Battlefield looks like the moon, so many craters

[@Weary_Wizard]

22:25 im sorry but how are people still ok with this? 3 salvo's didnt kill anything,b ut one stucker wiped a full unit. this is literally the difference in these units perfectly exemplified. Stuckers kill, tuck-fuck-sta's scare off. I'd rather have the instant-wipe unit that cannot be killed by small arms fire and doesnt need to stay still for 30 seconds thanks. By all means. nerf the allied arti some more though.

[@djmwdjmw6214]

Classic steppes game!

[@seanattaway3616]

"It's like an anime bromance" lol

[@HistoryGameV]

Ah great, something to watch while I wait for my wife to stand up for breakfast.^^

[@HistoryGameV]

Tora Tora Tora is for its time incredible authentic. Of course if you do the stuff I do you notice the mistakes, but it is one of few WW2 movies I actually quite enjoy.

[@HistoryGameV]

On the artillery/tank/infantry thing, artillery was still the main "killer" in WW2, far outranking tanks, planes etc. in actual kill numbers. Though as it wasn't only about killing and destroying in WW2 but more about breaking through the enemy lines and manoveur, tanks were in the end more important, but could of course only work with artillery that softened the enemy line and infantry covering their rear. It's called combined arms for a reason. CoH2 does a pretty nice job at showing this aspect.

[@AECoH]

@@HistoryGameV Yeah it was a bit dry in places, but you can't help but marvel at the even handed and realistic depictions. Great film.

[@AECoH]

@@HistoryGameV Yeah it's weird how CoH as a microcosm of battles works quite well at times. It's in no way realistic but is vaguely authentic more so than other games that try to be more realistic. The overall struggle and meta of the tactics can feel authentic.

[@HistoryGameV]

@@AECoH Alright, finally finished the video! Great battle and excellent cast, sir! What an astonishing push by the axis at the end, that was a wonderful sight! Their reign over the south might have won them the game in the end as they had the fuel and munitions while the allies were almost running dry. Was just sitting there and waiting for a nice solid flank through the open front. Really fun to watch!

[@ronniarbitiaas3095]

Sad to see Ally lost such extra-long game again. From my experience Axes won significantly more games which last over 45 mins.... is it just me?

[@sunseeds4817]

They fought a heroic fight for a very long time. I paid close attention to both teams resources income. For more than 2/3 of the battle, Axis team doubled the fuel (for 1/3 of the game they tripled Allies) income of Allie’s. Munitions were similar situation. I guess they lost the resource fight and hence had to decide to play cap points, and trade points for resources. Sadly that didn’t work out.

[@AG-qo5vt]

The allies gave up double fuel the whole game wtf

[@KrokLP]

*Strategiic zooooooomcaaast!*

[@faerie7dragon]

Not much use of Infantry Company there.Should have gone for Skillplanes. Amazing game none the less, mad props for playing USF, in a 4vs4.

[@planetary-rendez-vous]

0 dive up north from the allies into a house filled with unguarded panzerwerfer, I'm disappointed. No vision control at all

[@useruser6240]

oh, u have glasses! I love your new face and glad see u again. I love last 15 min what great game, great casting.

[@mirko786]

Thank for Cast!

[@pancakes3250]

WOW!

[@FizzleFX]

7:10 he's not on fire, he just farted

[@vristeciorao]

Give Soviets is3 , and US superpershin to even the game.

[@mikealpha2611]

Artillery kills everything in real life but tanks can take it better then infantry.

[@first001]

So axis always win in these? Everyone ive watched that happens no matter the players.

[@HodgizeroNeo]

dude you seriously sound and look like John Hannah (not a bad thing)

[@pancakes3250]

wow

[@elektrotehnik94]

10/10

[@samuelescardovi112]

On 4v4 , usf fresh infantry on late game is a useless bleed. Arty fest with constant wipes on both sides keep usf 2 steps behind. Fresh close range infantry without camo or smoke is so bad on late game.Usf is good only for jackson and priests on >30 min 4v4 games.

[@AECoH]

I would agree, the only infantry worth building that late are engineers to repair, or low level inexpensive infantry to cap. If it aint vet3 it aint worth the bleed.

[@kestutisvaiciunas8663]

Buttoning a Goliath... really?

[@stsk7]

DevM is such a spammer with 4 Stukas hé deserved a loss

[@minhqun]

*[SPOILERS]* *Insert meme* "They had us in the first half, not gonna lie"

[@maximilian23849]

in ww2 tank killed infantry, infatry killed tanks, infantry fought infantry, but tank vs tank engagegemants were not really meant to happen in ayn doctrina the major powers used, if tanks were made to fight tanks thw wehmacht would have been utterly destr4oyed in nfrance and rusia in the eraly war

[@PetrOsetr]

The game is still the same as i see. Germans are playing easy relaxed games with tanks that can outspeed literally any allied tank driving backwards while popping out the smoke. Tiger's cannon deal more damage to infantry than ISU's 152!!! mm cannon that could literally destroy Panther with a single HE front shot in real life. T34 still being totally useless, even worse than T70 lol. German arty is way way better than allied as i see - literally wiping out the infantry blobs. Still soyboy devs are like "yup balance is fine" while you see that whole allied team had to sit on their base late mid and late game. I was playing this piece of crap since release and was like in top 30 4x4 players and i was pretty much pissed off by whiny german players asking for more nerfs to allied units. Well here we are lol hope everyone enjoys the game