T-Pain vs Akon | The Joe Budden Podcast

[@stuffbydre554]

T pain had an ok career? He had a great career. He mad the strip club relevant. He made making it rain relevant. He made auto tone relevant. He was the king of features during a time when Wayne was at his peak.

[@wavey_b0ne]

He was being sarcastic

[@MonocanBasquiat]

I think you missed the joke brotha ..

[@stuffbydre554]

I probably did but I don’t Tolerate T pain slander. Tiny desk music was one of my favorites and I got him vs Akon in the battle.

[@nucklehead718]

Yeah it was sarcasm bro but np for sticking up 4 pain. Hes extremely talented. Akon trash.

[@fltngmmth]

StuffbyDre that’s the joke

[@Tarrik12321]

T pain should definitely be more respected and lifted up in the culture more than he is

[@adamanthraxe]

I'd rather listen to TPain over Akon anyday

[@YukiPyro]

I'm Sprung! one of my fav songs.

[@GULLAHTV33]

Naw bro

[@simonsays5986]

Interesting. But nahh

[@Geeandrezzi]

philip ocharo lmao facts. Akon is 1 of the most popular artists in the world to this day

[@Erickwashere]

That’s not the point lol

[@westphillykam215]

T pain proved how talented he is without the autotune, on the “Masked singer” show. He’s a legend 💯

[@erikhopkins16]

And the front desk interview my fav!

[@hbb7528]

His good but he definitely can't sing like akon

[@certifiedleakers6998]

I feel bad for t pain..everyday he has to hear people saying he "fell off" while he watches 100+ different rappers do their best impression of Him and thrive in a lane HE CREATED (AutoTune)

[@msbeautyboss3784]

He didn’t create (Auto Tune). Zapp & Roger in the 80’s used it first.

[@Desnes7]

@@msbeautyboss3784 bro tpain revitalized that shit to the 10th, foh with zapp them.

[@Desnes7]

@@msbeautyboss3784 and that was a talk box.

[@JorgeCastro-ui3pi]

Desnes7 everybody always tryna sound like a smart ass saying zapp and who ever even though the reason most people now about auto tune is because of t pain.

[@RetrogradeBeats]

Ms BeautyBoss thats not autotune that is a talkbox and vocoder 🤦🏾‍♂️ and no he didn’t create autotune he did create using the software as an instrument instead of a pitch correction tool.

[@larrybaygaming]

FunFact: T-Pain actually spoke on Akon not wanting to put out Pains “I’m sprung” because he wanted Konvict records to be seen with more of a “hardcore gangster” image (example. “Locked up” “soul survivor”) and never came around to the r&b “for the lovers” style until Pain had a hit with Sprung. That’s why we ended up getting more songs like “nobody wanna see us together” and “I wanna love you”

[@samaadsmith2356]

Right akon builds some Chinese funded projects in Africa and acts like he forgot.

[@christianjames9667]

That's bullshit. The song that got Akon signed in the first place was Lonely and Belly Dancer was the hit that his label wanted to put out before he fought for locked up to get put out. Akon has always had R&B songs.

[@yeliabdoowyllohx]

Lol fool Akon a r&b singer. Started off with lonely

[@m1keyfreshhh256]

you realize one of akons first smash hits was a song called lonely??? yeh really hardcore.... miss me with his trash comment

[@soooultraaain]

THERE BETTER NOT BE ANY T-PAIN SLANDER.

[@Power-9Hunnid]

But you know there will be.

[@Sol5Tice5921]

T-Pain was loyal to disloyal teams. That Keep Going song was the song that showed me that he wasn't a joke.

[@justiceGOD1]

Oo

[@Mindag13]

Facts! Keep going was amazing

[@jaycomplexkidrandle1889]

One of my favorites. I shed tears listening to it.

[@masco2483]

I guess because I'm from Florida but we was banging "I'm Sprung"

[@nickg1223]

I was finna say the same thing. Joe don’t kno what he talkin bout lol. They was jammin I’m sprung in duval back in the day.

[@sabreeemneely]

I'm from California when T-Pain dropped out here me and the females was bumpin I'm Sprung

[@jessecanada6995]

Im From FL too, Im sprung was god level shit because it was relatable af, true, and melodic.

[@shiestysean]

I’m from NY and I knock a lot of t pain. Budden bugging with that shit

[@gfrazier14]

Exaaaaaactly! I’ve been living in FL since ‘99 and was at FAMU when I’m Sprung came out! I’m Sprung was on HEAVY ROTATION!!! Now that damn song with him & Flo Rida “Low”, white people go crazy over that song! 🙄

[@fredthetruth3701]

T Pains music career is greater than Akons...

[@zonatanrecords60]

You need a doctor

[@shawnd1138]

Facts

[@Shane_101]

No ways!!!

[@gregs2965]

Never left the hood? He was on the masked singer lol

[@ttravis10]

He meant musically. Not physical ky

[@ttravis10]

Physically

[@brandonmatthews4934]

What does other international artist sings about beside they’re own ghetto

[@MrVibez205]

The masked singer is so recent. He is talking about when he was doing all the hooks. “All I do is win” era.

[@illuminated_]

That's to get paid and publicity .

[@NCxSC]

So many people “love t pain” but won’t support bro

[@TJ45_]

Joe's new teeth made him look like a Disney version of himself 😂

[@biggd54vikings]

lmao facts

[@samba_digital]

What the hell. This isn't a rant about Spotify.

[@REALTRUEJOURNEY]

LMAO

[@priztucker]

BRO T-PAIN Changed everything with Autotune to this day 🤷‍♂️ WTF? Kanye stole dudes style and made 808s. Come on dawg

[@willieboyland3180]

Factz. Kanye and Lil Wayne stole Pain's whole style and then Jay-z tried to play him but Wayne and Ye are geniuses smh....

[@kjobful]

We know this t pain is not attractive to bitches that’s its. The real Mount Rushmore of rapper is Wayne, t-pain, KID CUDI, and Gucci honestly they are the most influential and most artist can be directed back to them. Drake is a direct product of 808s and heartbreaks which was written and produced most by TPAIN AND KID CUDI. Why you think kanye and CUDI hate drake so much ran off with their style and became bigger because he was mixed and can appeal to whites and blacks

[@Peezy317BurnerAccount]

a lot of people forget T pain helped produce 808’s and heartbreaks with kanye.

[@priztucker]

@@Peezy317BurnerAccount THAAANK YOU!!! smh

[@dmv99]

Akon tripping bro. You should NEVER downplay a king regardless of who you’re speaking to.

[@Geeandrezzi]

philip ocharo yea I don’t get how he “downplayed” t-pain. He even said he’s SUPER TALENTED before making the statement....

[@shahtony3748]

facts

[@EZR725]

@philip ocharo Not everybody sells out

[@DaKiddSkyy]

@@Geeandrezzi that's how most people deliver backhanded compliments. That's equivalent to saying no disrespect, then proceeds to disrespect.

[@Geeandrezzi]

DaKiddSkyy this wasn’t 1 of “those” situations tho. Akon wasn’t dissing him, he was asked a question about T-Pain’s career and responded. There was no malice behind it

[@TheBiggTennReppa]

Akon said 'urban' almost in the same context as the other folks

[@juslikejessejames]

“Uhhh do any of you have a take on this only fans fiasco” is a sick way to end the video

[@donblazar2883]

Joe: I’m going on a trip with a stranger Rory: You should bring a weapon Joe: Black man is a weapon 🔥🔥👌🏾😂

[@cremecrop2329]

"Hips and a flatty" really had me LMAO!

[@friendoftheshow3382]

His Tahiry Analysis This Morning Was On Point,Fellas Speak Up Sooner!💯💯

[@dominiquegreer7215]

He responded?

[@queens2nd2none]

Did he speak on it. My Google news slider had that Tahiry shit right at the top and I'm like "wtf? I don't ever search Tahiry, why would it show me this on top of everything else" then it hit me, algorithms... Google knows I'm a Budden head... I'm guessing everyone else with the Google news feed widget saw the same exact thing if they're also Budden podcast fans.

[@lovealways8860]

I agree

[@brucekent9085]

I'm glad he called out that this is happening while he is going against Spodify and iHeart, because that was the first thing that came to mind for me.

[@rickeybernard8156]

"Like white people won't put us in position" that was a clean joke ngl.

[@Prezzihoe]

Guess who reconstructed & invented auto tune oh yea t-pain... he’s the reason music is the way it is now

[@Prezzihoe]

Sfit Team bro I said reconstructed for a reason he reconstructed auto tune and made it what it is today

[@Prezzihoe]

Sfit Team he’s the reason people are using auto tune is what I’m saying around the time he was using it others weren’t facts are facts

[@edwardfreeman1994]

Sfit Team Just follow the trail. Pain literally taught Ye how to use autotune. Ye and Weezy had a huge impact with their use of autotune. All these kids use it now and they grew up with that music.

[@Prezzihoe]

Edward Freeman ty man I felt like I was talking to a wall

[@edwardfreeman1994]

Sfit Team He quite factually and literally did. Idk what to tell you fam

[@prezidentjeff]

For the life of me I’ll never understand why people go and interview with Vlad. Also don’t know what the hell Akon talkin about

[@illuminated_]

The labels make them Vlad is connected

[@gunpowderhoes3492]

I'm thankful for these clips because there's no way I can sit through an hour and a half of this these niggas get off topic so fast bruh

[@mike7676ful]

I laughed hard for some reason when Rory said hips with the flatty... I chuckled when Joe said it but laughed hard hearing duke say it.

[@ShivayaPrince-shivaay]

U would... cause u corny.

[@Hamptino]

@@ShivayaPrince-shivaay 😂😂😂

[@mike7676ful]

Lucky 6 and grown. So somehow that’s not cool these days cool guy. My bad for laughing. Us corny niggas gotta get in where we fit in. Apparently funny shit ain’t where we fit in. Maybe you can tell me what’s funny so I know what to laugh at next time. Help a brother out.

[@mike7676ful]

Brown Water & Grape Juice I’m guessing you didn’t catch the irony... I called myself corny too... Point was, let’s find why what he thought was funny is really what’s funny but not myself... That’s what’s corny. But since we’re building like kings, I didn’t see anything saying don’t call this king corny... You put corny laugh emojis. Come on brother.

[@TheGoodSheperd_TOG]

They obviously didn’t watch the vlad interview. I hate when ppl speak on stuff without watching the full interview. Akon wasn’t shitting on t-pain.

[@avityjunior7041]

Glad someone with common sense saw that..Akon was not shittin on T-Pain, he was just giving his opinion on a lengthy interview as compared to what these guys are doing by reviewing bits of the interview..!!

[@SK-PODCAST]

I realise that a lot Afro Americans don’t like Akon just bcoz he’s African.

[@Geeandrezzi]

Allan Towne because he literally said “he’s a super talented artist” right before saying the part about crossing over. It wasn’t disrespectful, it was truth........

[@lilp4000]

@@Geeandrezzi just cuz somebody says no disrespect before saying something disrespectful don't change shit

[@TheGoodSheperd_TOG]

Lazy ninja 4000 go watch the full vlad interview

[@vincentparra1175]

Joe's eyes when he said "Tea Pain" are fucking hilarious

[@tziremitchell6680]

When joe say it “ it’s just me right “ we alll done it😂😂😂😭😭😭

[@jonlyvboss1]

Joe Buddens is the strongest voice in HipHop and smartest man in the Music Industry.💯🤘😎🤙💯

[@Shawny117]

There should be a comp of everytime mal makes a face when someone says something wild 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Abell_lledA]

One doesn’t experience self-transcendence, the illusion of self only dissipates✌️Non-Duality

[@comfykeegs]

Oh shut up

[@tayeant1]

👁

[@yk007beats8]

Rory on cue 🤣 I love "I'm Sprung" hey shoot me too

[@jamal4717]

T Pain crossed over more than Akon

[@michael43567]

Vlad is an instigator. Notice how he's now asking every black person "what do you think about Akon saying Africans don't think about slavery?" I feel like he's a plant that's just in our culture to cause controversy & division

[@michael43567]

@R S I don't see how that relates to my point on Vlad. We can accept all the responsibility in the world, racism will still exist so will police brutality & others tryna keep us down. Black on black crime is there sure we have to improve on that, but the vast majority of us are supportive of one another. We're not our biggest enemy.

[@michael43567]

@R S notoriety my ass. Everyone he interviews is already in the public eye & known. He gets views of them, they profit in no way. His popular interviewees like Lord Jamar & China Mac, sure they got more recognition, but they were known from rap already, Vlad doesn't interview no-names

[@michael43567]

@R S What part of "they get more recognition" didn't you understand? Lmao you're the only person I've ever seen defend Vlad. And literally no one in this thread agrees with you, but cook. I can tell you're soft by how reckless you talk, I know your type. I don't do the threats or insults online. But you say I'm a kid lol.

[@ajamyqueen]

Love the both of them 😭😭😭

[@RideDaBeatTVPodcast]

T Pain definitely is in his own lane

[@iViCMychael]

Don’t say that again Vlad 😂😂😂

[@TripA8192]

T-Pain had way more crossover appeal and success than Akon. T-Pain had a run where it seemed it was either he or Wayne, on everything lol What is Akon talking about? 😂 Pain unfortunately aged out. Maybe listeners fatigue idk. But it wasn’t from lack of crossover.

[@avityjunior7041]

Fatigue is the right answer

[@michael43567]

I ain't jackin that at all. Even if he did it isn't "way more". Name a bigger 7 than Don't Matter, Locked up, Lonely, Right na na na, I wanna love you, Blame on me, Smack that. Pain got joints, but mainstream wise he can't fuck with Akon

[@TripA8192]

Michael I can’t agree with you.. I'm Sprung I'm N Luv (Wit a Stripper) Buy U a Drank Can’t Believe It 5’0clock Apple bottom jeans Chopped’nscrewed.. weather you liked them or not, were all smashes. Not to mention his feature list is huge. He turned people’s singles into hits. So even though they weren’t “his” he made them go

[@sycofya1677]

Damn both Michael and Tripp made a fire list. They should just have a battle verzuz

[@michael43567]

@@TripA8192 Apple bottom jeans isn't a t pain song, it's a flo rida song & it's called "low". Akon goes 4-2 against your list & I'm being generous. I'll give you "buy u a drank" & "I'm in love with a stripper". Going strictly off which songs are bigger, not better. Locked up beats I'm sprung, Don't matter beats 5o'clock, Lonely beats can't believe it, smack that beats chopped n unscrewed. Akon would win with features too, the nigga got joints with Michael Jackson.

[@dannyforeal5339]

3:50 Why does Joe always finger bang his toes like that?!!! 🤣

[@space-ux1hh]

hope yall have a great day✊

[@jayloso89]

Keep the phones ringing 😂

[@chriswhatsthiscwt3008]

I’m a have to say tpain had a better run compared to Akon

[@christianjames9667]

Lol no. Akon was a legit global superstar at his peak. There's a reason Michael Jackson was asking him to produce and write for him.

[@chriswhatsthiscwt3008]

Christian James I get that but to say Tpain didn’t have that type of impact would be a lie

[@1Leggo9my9Eggo2]

In terms of numbers, it’s not even close. Akon did much better numbers Than t-pain and if we’re talking songs, akon has much better success in the charts than t-pain. Your opinion is subjective but objectively, akon had a more successful career, especially world wide. Akon has more bangers than t-pain even though I’ve always liked t-pain.

[@Papa.oscuritaa]

Christian James being a great song writer doesn’t mean he’s better than t pain

[@christianjames9667]

@@chriswhatsthiscwt3008 Tpain wasn't a global superstar for the exact reason Akon stated. Tpain made a lot of strip club records and did a lot hood tracks where he was featured on the hooks. Meanwhile, Akon was making music with Gwen Stefanie and producing pop records and EDM records. There's a reason Akon who hasn't been music relevant in 10+ years can still sell out overseas venues.

[@mybrothakeeper7020]

When Joe was playin wit his toes I had 2 turn it off 🤮

[@britneyprada2900]

The only Akon I wanna hear in 2020 is on Jeezy Soul Survivor & Snoop Dogg I wanna F*ck You, but Pain got a few classic hits that’s gone stay on the playlist forever 🐐

[@tebogo568]

Akon has a hit song with Gwen Stefani(Pop), David Guetta (EDM), Psquared(Afro-Beat), Chammak Challo(Bollywood). T-pain's music was mostly RnB/Hip-hop.

[@TheJordanComplex]

Rory jumping up and down in some Apple Bottom jeans is sick. lmao

[@villavelli]

I like the barrrrtenderrrrr🎵🎵🎵

[@julianmartin4880]

Hips with the flatty 😂😂😂

[@OfftheCuffConversations]

🤣 🤣 🤣 I died😭😭😭

[@Charles_N]

"A punch in the face gets you $300k, ask Vlad now he back to making minimum wage" Rick Ross

[@Sol5Tice5921]

underrated line

[@deucedaprodeuca]

I play this podcast at 1.5x. It sounds normal ,🤣

[@jherfav4326]

Joe got the dogs out 😂🤦🏽‍♂️

[@hotcumodity7777]

Actually Joe I was rocking to ‘I’m Sprung’ heavy & I am black & from the Bronx...Thats what made me like T-Pain & actually buy his music 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@grape5620]

Akon is disqualified... he's 69 homie...

[@bankroll174]

No one cares if your friends with 69 he didn't do anything to you or your family so shut up.

[@JJ808]

@@bankroll174 thats like saying hitler didn't do anything to me so I shouldn't care how he affected other people. A Narcissistic way of being.

[@sycofya1677]

Yea F 6nine

[@frankhernandez6524]

@Jay Steppin you could care dummy but not to the point where you hate Poland. Lol The US did business with Hitler, you hating on the US now? that’s right.

[@JJ808]

@@frankhernandez6524 Not the point dummy. IBM is a technology company. Noone cared about the "persona" or moral compass of a technology company in the 1800's. A rapper collaborating with a known rat greatly affects his legacy. All business aint good business. Caring about certain things ties into morale, which is something rappers RAP about. Why tf would you go against your words (which is basically your product) by openly collaborating with a rat? Especially when theres many artists bigger than 69 right now? Stupid. But then again yall got the same last name so I'm not even surprised 🤣

[@edwardfreeman1994]

I wasn’t aware that Akon is considered more poppin’ than T-Pain in anyway at anytime. You learn something new everyday...

[@Geeandrezzi]

Lmao you must live in a small world my guy.......

[@edwardfreeman1994]

Gee Andrezzi Perhaps. I’m not a huge fan of either, but I find it odd that in 2020, Akon has authority to speak on Tpains career. Has Akon been producing a lot of cats that are on the scene? Enlighten me, I’m here to learn.

[@Geeandrezzi]

Edward Freeman don’t get time wrong, t-pain is huge artist in AMERICA. But worldwide? Akon to this day is still a HUGE international artist. He doesn’t put out music anymore and he still could tour the world off his old music. Akon signed t-pain and lady Gaga to his label and they blew up after....

[@edwardfreeman1994]

Gee Andrezzi That’s so crazy to me, because I see Tpain having a much larger influence on music than Akon but influence doesn’t get you sales or recognition I guess. Thank you for an informative response

[@rickeybernard8156]

@@edwardfreeman1994 thanks for your maturity on handling this conversation.

[@lovealways8860]

3:20 these moments 🤣

[@reupforthebetter2417]

T-Pain 🔥

[@jjrdavidson81]

Bruh... I am feeling what Joe is saying about talking to VLAD.

[@liamvanrooi6939]

Parks sounds like Vlad.. 😂😂😂

[@liamvanrooi6939]

Why did Rory have to say "I love I'm sprung" after joe made his point😂

[@AKWBeats]

I miss this Iteration of the Podcast

[@jimmylos7929]

Hips wit the flatty - JBP Boys 2020

[@bodega5872]

Joe put some socks on cuz... who else notice he aint have socks on lol

[@chrismelton765]

That would be a good verzuz battle

[@djfanboyLIVE]

It’s very clear that there was a concerted effort to hurt t-pain’s career.

[@kingtoby9851]

The good cuddler is definitely my bag

[@taytaytay96]

Ruuuury and Moldy Mal🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Macktruk123]

T Pain vs The Dream is a good match.

[@docsrants]

I can remember in 2007- 2009 I lived in Fort Lauderdale.. I used to go to clubs out there And they would play non stop T pain pit bull and Flo rida aaaaaallllllll night , Every where I went..I would rarely hear any Akon when I was out and about..

[@avityjunior7041]

Akon did well internationally outside the United States for the most part of his career than T-Pain

[@daveylewis816]

Akon been on that Moonrock lately 🙃

[@TharsanJeyachandran]

Lit ep.

[@Est.N1985]

T-Pain> Akon

[@daveylewis816]

Akon signed T pain was rocking Then Akon signed lady Gaga and that was that 🙃

[@Mobcityrecords100]

T-pain has more hits than Akon

[@natemclarke]

That’s a lie

[@abdoulayediallo5090]

😂😂😂😂

[@kenouo2024]

Nope😂

[@abliebojang8825]

Good joke

[@jamesbilinski7430]

Joe knows Mal is a good cuddler.

[@gerardlead9321]

Akon is not an American Black man; meaning he does not have the same values. Akon is African first, and black 2nd.

[@melvinsmith9696]

Even better it means he is a 100% black..can’t say the same about you tho🤭🤭

[@therealestrarebreed]

Did they just show a donald Gump ad while I'm watching y'all pod?!?!

[@SoundMadeVisual]

"Like whyte people won't do to us, put us in position" - Joe Budden THAT WAS A BAR!

[@petegriffin555]

Joe gotta let that hurt go. Either fight Vlad or shut up. As a grown man no other man should make you get in your feelings like this

[@ronnieking2302]

Rory got the green cup for the Jameson tho..

[@ivysmith2794]

It have nothing to do with leaving the hood, T Pain time was up, he had an awesome career

[@stephenmassaquoi2814]

The Heck is this 💀☠️💀☠️.

[@Prezzihoe]

NO T PAIN SLANDER I’LL FR FIGHT OVER BRO

[@thirdeye8628]

Ridge Rd. BIH

[@itszaaaamzeh]

Joe really gotta put his toes away 😭

[@evolutionofvitamin_e]

2:32 ✊🏾

[@cbwavy]

Hips with a flatty is always dissappointing. Nothing some squats can't fix though

[@grape5620]

Hips and a flatty..lol

[@JamesKlass79]

Yeah we call those deceptacons. Lol

[@grape5620]

@@JamesKlass79 I call them etch a sketches... you shake the jeans off and the butts disappear...lll

[@infinagon]

We all see that Beijing in Joe's beard right or we shutting up

[@poisinkink]

He can definitely fit Apple bottom jeans 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀

[@britneyprada2900]

Nah I ain’t know none about I’m Sprung getting white ppl turnt but thats a CLASSIC in the hood! Sometimes Joe be speaking for his age group. I was in middle school during TPAIN era, that wave was crazy. I’m Sprung gone forever be on the playlist, I don’t consider that nor I’m in love with a stripper pop.

[@missjski]

Tpain = ⭐⭐⭐

[@wm9904]

"Y'all love sitting with vlad"

[@Samuraiwavy]

If t pain don’t do that one dance move. Ima give it to Akon

[@NicoleC007]

Joe, Im from Fl and we all turned up and still turn up to Im Sprung sir so that statement is false 🤦🏽. . .but the rest I agree with lol

[@nikkonikko8684]

6:42 stop playing with them toes joe

[@jonquebyrd3105]

He didn't step on him he wa asked a question and he answered it wasnt just bad or nothing. Like Akon said earlier in that interview the industry is so sensitive and make it personal

[@Aj6711]

To this day Auto Tone is super huge that cause of t pain

[@Alainesteph]

I love T-pain ❤️

[@omoovbo2864]

T pain never fell off his just pass cos his an OG in the game

[@Inkie.Apparition]

I can’t lie-when vlad started talking, I thought it was Parks.

[@716killakev]

Oh