T'Pau star Carol Decker on being 'cancelled' and her music career

'To those people online, you know where you can stick it!'
Mark Dolan speaks to T'Pau star Carol Decker about her music career and being 'cancelled' by the online Twitter mob for not recognising the Welsh language.
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[@stephenhaywood5672]

The moral of this tale of woe is don’t have anything to do with Twater or the twats who’s lives revolve around it .Good one Carol 👍

[@TheEducator89]

I think if some disease/illness/tragic extraterrestrial happenstance was to wipe out everyone who had Twitter on their phones instantly, the World would suddenly be a much happier, nicer, more tolerant, and pleasing place to live in.

[@davidlion8762]

Just because you don't have any friends on twitter ! Jealous Jealous , I am an influencer i have 2 followers and my posts have been liked twice and shared once in the last 3 years of my growing career. Jealous Jealous !

[@stephenhaywood5672]

@@davidlion8762 how did you know I have no friends David 😢

[@NigelJackson]

@simon templer 'templar', not 'templer'...

[@NigelJackson]

Twitter is a time-sink for the idle, superficial and dim-witted. Best to avoid social media altogether.

[@hamwhacker]

I am a new fan. What a lovely lady. I would definitely pay to see her perform. TPau was great and I bet her recent concerts are a lot of fun.

[@rhyfelwrDuw]

I love T'Pau - fantastic group, Carol Decker has a wonderful voice!

[@sukijay4990]

As soon as someone is cancelled I become a fan of them.

[@smsheard]

Wow thats stupid.

[@smsheard]

SO are you a fan of Jeremy COrbyn then becasue the press did a hatchet job on him worse than most and he was actually running for government at the time.

[@sukijay4990]

@@smsheard I don’t become a fan of antisemites, and anyway it wasn’t the leftie cancel crowd on Twitter that ruined him, or even the media. He did it to himself.,

[@sukijay4990]

@@smsheard not really, it’s my contribution towards fighting the obnoxious leftie lynch mob.

[@smsheard]

@@sukijay4990 Oh so it matters to you when some one gets "cancelled" as you stupidly call it as long as they are right wing. So therefor you are for ideas based censorship.

[@cashkitty3472]

Brexit happened ages ago. Everywhere is having shortages. Twitter is where trolls go to breed

[@franminky7763]

I’m in Spain. Lidl are having supply problems here too, so it’s obviously not down to Brexit , The Spanish owned supermarkets are fine, but Lidl has been having issues for about a month now

[@nightowl7459]

@@franminky7763 Very true, it's people like odious O'Brien on his talkover show that is spreading the lie because he's still not come to terms that people didn't listen to him and vote for remain or vote for a old commie to be prime minister.

[@Anti_Woke]

@@nightowl7459 "O'Brien" being the evil villain of '1984', which is exactly the regime the woke totalitarians are trying to establish. Coincidence?

[@jintsfan]

@@nightowl7459 I can picture O’Brien now, wiping his brow in faux indignation. It makes me chuckle to think he continues to fume, but why he does it in Britain when he could do it in a EU country escapes me.

[@nightowl7459]

@@jintsfan I honestly love how salty he is over the fact that is commie idol Corbyn isn't running the country.

[@rhyfelwrDuw]

To a lot of Welsh people, Welsh is like a foreign language (before I get cancelled, I am Welsh and I speak a little bit of Welsh, but I'm not fluent - my Irish hubby speaks it better than me!).

[@ejones8360]

how?

[@jamescaley9942]

Last I heard the Welsh government were paying somebody £100k a year to "promote" the Welsh language. I mean, WTF?

[@EdMcF1]

Isn't she great? Her personality really shines.

[@TheMancMod01]

I have great memories of T'Pau, being a teen in the 80s. I wish Carol all the best for the future and don't let the twitter mob get you down.

[@laurieturner1101]

I’m welsh and not at all offended, keep going more people like you we need 👍

[@OwainGaming]

Finna fyd

[@HueyLewisRocks]

What does it change that you're personally not offended.... nothing at all.

[@markselvin2230]

@@OwainGaming and me

[@HueyLewisRocks]

@David Ward Luckily we have more to go off than how things look to you... it's a language, it's not your language, so by definition it's foreign.

[@bbcfakenews9677]

@@HueyLewisRocks Mynd i chwarae.

[@chrispawlus1226]

Am I the only person who has never been on twitter or even wanted to, it sounds horrendous

[@happilyretired2868]

No! There are 2 of us. You can find me on Karen Davis channel, You're Kiddin', Right? Ute

[@kennyopinmind7558]

@@happilyretired2868 3

[@garyhumble7161]

I went to see T'Pau play at Witley Bay ice rink in 87. Carol was amazing. I was right up front. I absolutely loved it.

[@shep1102]

First band I saw at Whitley bay ice rink Depeche Mode 84 . How things have changed

[@guywilloughby3383]

God whitely bay got loads of great gigs back then,saw acdc there around 86 87. She actually played South tyneside festival a few years back.

[@Autopsy6]

I saw Def Leppard at the Whitley Bay ice rink in 1988!

[@stephenalanmoore7278]

I used to go to school with a lad called Gary Humble. Is that you?

[@garyhumble7161]

@@stephenalanmoore7278 what school did you go to. It's possible I may know you.

[@booh12469]

Great vocalist, top band. Can't keep the brilliant talent that is Carol Decker down!! 👏💙 A music legend, deserving of the UK's pride. Now I'll be humming "Heart & Soul" all day long.

[@suereeves5994]

@Dub House why are u watching then

[@quarteronline]

My local Co-op is struggling to get stuff on the shelves because of a lack of drivers due to lockdowns not Brexit.

[@georgeprime2249]

Same with my big Sainsburys.

[@fatblokeonabicyle9569]

Popped into local cooperative recently and was interested to see shelves quite bare so I asked a young member of staff where all the stock was and she replied ‘yeah, it’s brexit that’s causing stock shortages’… I responded by saying that I didn’t think that Brexit was the cause and she just sniffed at my ignorance and turned on her heel. I’m afraid that some people are being fed a load of old bull - even by their employers?

[@justinrumsby1017]

I think there's even more going on than that. I think there's a manufactured shortage scare. All part of seeding The Great Reset and the financial green fascism.

[@utv5490]

Don't blame Brexit whatever you do. You'll look like a total c***!!!

[@Didderly]

Met Carol on a cruise a couple of years ago, a totally lovely person.

[@stringer-ik1pc]

Saga.???? 😃

[@Didderly]

@@stringer-ik1pc She aint that old, It was an 80's music cruise.

[@utv5490]

What cocktail did you order?

[@Didderly]

@@utv5490 I Had a vodka & Tonic, the wife had a pernod & I think Carol was on white wine

[@utv5490]

@@Didderly Thought she might have tea.

[@pammy4741]

Loved seeing Carol on your show I have great memories of watching T’Pau on TOTPs when I was a teen 🥰

[@leeshepherdtrading]

If you’re English living in England the Wales is another country with a different language. Therefore she’s correct. It’s a foreign language to her.

[@tonyjones9442]

But its an indigenous British language; so technically its not forgein. You could argue English is foreign to us Welsh as its Germanic.

[@leeshepherdtrading]

@@tonyjones9442 I’ve heard how some of you old Welsh men use the English language. I believe you, it’s obviously foreign to you. 😂

[@tonyjones9442]

@@leeshepherdtrading lol, most of us young men do too. Im only 32!!! Prehaps you should visit North West wales so you don't show your ignorance.

[@marksavage1108]

@@tonyjones9442 type all that in Welsh, I have family in Amlwch and I visit regular, Welsh is only used by the very very few, I understand bits but the younger family members who are fluent (still taught in their school) but dont use it say the Welsh only speak Welsh when moaning about the English. That is first hand experience,

[@tonyjones9442]

@@marksavage1108 Amlwch is a very English area of Anglesey, like Holhead. Go to Newborough and it would be different. My village on the llyn it's 80% Welsh speaking, same as Caernarfon. You can check the census data and it tells you exactly. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Welsh_areas_by_percentage_of_Welsh-speakers You will find its a fair bitmore than you think. Ac dwy yn cymro. Dim point yn ysgrifenu mean cymraeg oes ti ddim yn fedri Darllen cymraeg.

[@brandonshaw2120]

For youngsters who don't remember Carol Decker and T'Pau, they were iconic and everyone from that time knows their tracks like anthems.

[@stephenalanmoore7278]

I bought their first UK Top Ten hit single 'Heart And Soul' on 7" vinyl when it was originally released. It's still a great pop song.

[@brandonshaw2120]

@@stephenalanmoore7278 Classic. 'Give a little bit of heart and soul. Give a little bit of rock and rolllll'

[@TheDizzylizzy1977]

I'm Welsh and no worries, loads of Welsh don't understand the language either, so don't let the trolls get to you. Love your music!

[@andynotdave]

I went to Wales before lockdown. It was great but I did experience some anti English people who insulted us and used the Welsh language to communicate with us so that we wouldn't understand what they were saying. Another Welsh lady said we would meet people like that especially in the north (don't know how true that is). Great language, great country and the people were lovely. However I don't think I'll spend my money and use up my holidays there even though it's closer to me than Cornwall

[@warriorpoet9629]

Twitter personifies everything that is currently wrong with our world.

[@foxforceone2016]

Carol Decker. Legend then, Legend now.

[@frankly-he1kf]

Leg end...

[@richnews4499]

Love how msm and politicians seem to think twatter is what everyone thinks when in reality every sane person thinks twatter is a cess pit

[@Thereishope664]

I do feel sorry for the twitterarti. Perhaps they should get out a little more. Life's all too short.

[@OscarSJP]

Feeling sorry is the wrong emotion.

[@whiskii]

Nah, leave them in their caves to wallow in self pity until they have heart attacks. The last thing we need is them going out and reproducing with like minded scum and then passing their filthy logic onto the next generation.

[@jimcy1318]

Welsh is a foreign language to most of the Welsh.

[@ejones8360]

no?

[@janekennaway8008]

Ha ha ha

[@jintsfan]

“you know where you can shove it”. An English \ British woman of the finest order. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧

[@HueyLewisRocks]

I prefer women who don't resort to childish and unintelligent retorts, who actually offer good, rational reasons for disagreeing with things. But that's just me I guess. I'm attracted to intelligence, and you're attracted to playground-level thinking.

[@0utcastAussie]

Or perhaps we prefer people who "tell it as it is" in a way that can't be misconstrued ? Superiority complexes not required. Eg: A smack in the gob is meant to offend !

[@jintsfan]

@@HueyLewisRocks Yes, that’s you,. You guess correct.

[@LeeGee]

Anyone who uses Twitter deserves what they get

[@HueyLewisRocks]

Yeah, I bet you feel the same way about people who make stupid comments on youtube too. Like you.

[@gazz1246]

@@HueyLewisRocks really salty aren't we! ⛏️

[@HueyLewisRocks]

@@gazz1246 What are you?

[@gazz1246]

@@HueyLewisRocks give us a clue?

[@HueyLewisRocks]

@@gazz1246 Are you someone with something useful to contribute to the conversation, or just a numpty troll insulting random strangers online? What are you?

[@janekennaway8008]

Fear.... Fear that we have a decent alternative to the BBC, sorry, bbc.

[@HueyLewisRocks]

lol.... so many stupid things with your comment that I don't even know where to start.

[@janekennaway8008]

@@HueyLewisRocks then don't

[@jameswlong]

3:50 "I've always had my knockers Mark" "I've seen the pictures" How the hell did you get away with that one. 😆 I'm dying here.

[@Mistressofthegroove]

Now there is a wonderful female role model right there. Awesomely talented, Intelligent and worked hard for her place in music history.

[@david_fl507]

i bought T'pau's cassette back in the 80's. one of my fav vocalists ever.

[@Enl1thened1]

Always wondered why the Welsh don't read their own language they read English, I know this to be true as a book dealer, I ended up throwing Welsh language books away , strange one 🤔

[@deskelly9313]

kind of sad really

[@Grandmastergav86]

@@deskelly9313 You can't write many stories without Vowels.

[@ejones8360]

@@Grandmastergav86 welsh has two more vowels than english-

[@ejones8360]

the welsh do read welsh what??

[@tonyjones9442]

@@Grandmastergav86 there's more vowels in Welsh than English, by two

[@leetonge5171]

Listened the T"Pau since the 80s and I wont stop.

[@seandelap6268]

Why not just ignore the woke mob and tel them where to go instead of pandering to them.

[@HueyLewisRocks]

There is no 'woke mob', except in your feverish paranoid imagination.... there ARE people who have views that you don't agree with though, and that's a good thing in a democracy, right? Stop being so lazy, think for once.

[@seandelap6268]

@@HueyLewisRocks if you really believe that then you're very naive.

[@csm101rus]

@@HueyLewisRocks Interesting that you say people have different views and yet you probably support cancel culture, are a regular Twitter user which is nothing more than a lefty echo chamber where people who have different views are cancelled. I know the irony is real right?

[@HueyLewisRocks]

@@csm101rus I can't support or not support 'cancel culture' because it's not a real thing, and I've never used Twitter in my life. Well done, you're a typical non-fact-checking numpty, the one thing you're right about is that the irony is real, just not in the way you think it is, and with a twist of paranoia thrown in. Twitter is open to anyone as long as they follow the rules, but feel free to link the credible studies that support what you're claiming.

[@csm101rus]

@@HueyLewisRocks I detect that you indeed a product of that way of thinking, I wonder why you find yourself on a GB news article.....again.

[@tygertyger77]

Lol, I'm Welsh. I couldn't give a crap :D

[@ancietman]

Keep up the good work GB News putting people on air that would never get the chance to speak on BBC or Sky.

[@HueyLewisRocks]

lol, could you be any more biased if you tried? Can you even hear yourself with your ridiculous claims?

[@BostonHorticulture]

I literally was just listening to her beautiful music today. LOVE

[@armstronggermany2995]

Some empty shelves on my local supermarket in Germany this weekend. Obviously the 2016 Brexit vote is at fault !!!!

[@fallingdown1979]

Love Carol, absolute legend. 80's forever ❤️

[@philiplong7390]

Great interview and Carol comes across really well,. I agree, shove it.

[@trevorpiggott6435]

The language of left over scrabble letters

[@teddog11]

Had a good cackle at that one!

[@ejones8360]

dyna ti joc wreiddiol.

[@rv1684]

Haha oh dear careful

[@victorkiam8612]

@Rod Williams of course they are they can put down almost anything and you wouldn't know it wasn't a word 😂

[@lindsayheyes925]

Carol Decker is a legend just across the border in Symonds Yat, where teenagers put ladders up to climb the trees and watch her filming the promo video for "Secret Garden" in the maze there. Best voice in the business IMO, and a truly nice person.

[@stereohype1]

She's still an icon and isn't going anywhere. Give 'em Hell Carol! Queen strong 💪🏾

[@HW100]

I met her a few times when I was a Postie, loved T Pau in my youth, she is a really lovely lady, very funny too. Good on you Carol, stay you.

[@realscientistflanders1688]

If Wales is a different country to England, Scotland and N Ireland, then it's foreign to those countries. That is the definition of the word.

[@grissom2023]

I see Polish owned shops near me where everything in written in Polish. If I pointed this out to my local council I'd be called a 'racist'🤔👍

[@Beastriderpav]

There’s more of us then them…

[@HueyLewisRocks]

It's kinda funny and scary when people guilty of 'them and us' type thinking, actually say it out loud. You are the problem with this country, because there is no 'them' mate, there's only 'us'. Stop looking for reasons to hate other people, try to be smarter than that.

[@ejones8360]

what-

[@tanisdevelopment]

@@HueyLewisRocks - I think The Beast is just referring to twitter trolls.

[@HueyLewisRocks]

@@tanisdevelopment Suppose he is, does he get to decide who is and isn't a 'troll'? With people like him, it's always people who disagree with him who are trolls...

[@Beastriderpav]

@@HueyLewisRocks well I disagree with faceless trolls, but wait a minute, I disagree with you, so what’s to be done?

[@SamM-oh2cx]

Folk hit out on Carol because she is sane and normal and that just goes against the grain! I am just so so happy that I loved and experienced her first time around, the 80s when the world and all within where ok! Stay amazing Carol xx

[@Albion-InTheDensOfBabylon]

Always a fan - fantastic hot legend from the 80s! And a freedom warrior to boot!

[@Albion-InTheDensOfBabylon]

T'Pau's new three CD set is great if you are a fan.

[@RodGardner]

Carol Decker One of best vocalists 😂

[@frankly-he1kf]

What a joke. ....one hit wonder. ...and I hated that song ...

[@RodGardner]

@@frankly-he1kf yes totally a one hit wonder . I wonder how it became a hit 😂😂😂

[@utv5490]

I wonder why she is being interviewed at all.

[@jacquistephens605]

I'm half Irish on my sperm donors side and I've never known the Irish language. No intention of trying either. I was born in England therefore, my mother tongue is English. Xxxx

[@conan5885]

This is one of the main reasons i absolutely despise "social media" and the "social media ecosystem" and mindset. It just amplifies people stupidity, futility and shallowness. Love Carol, and love T'pau, big part of my childhood/teens

[@MadDogSurvival]

I saw her live in derby twenty years ago and was great live!

[@AxelSituation]

Keep singing, Carol!

[@paulmartin3682]

Good interview

[@paulgardner9814]

Excellent and entertaining interview.

[@chrispeterson7865]

Heart and Soul is one of the best songs ever - the buildup and crescendo with Carol's fantastic voice is epic.

[@rafflesxyz4800]

If you love a country, have a house there and have spent time there, it's not an unreasonable assumption to think that you would be able to recognise the language.

[@truthreignsforever9286]

Carol Decker ❤️❤️❤️ n soul.

[@leevee2658]

CAROL WILL NEVER BE CANCELLED IN MY HOUSE!

[@simonpeggboard4004]

A foreign language by definition is just not your native language.

[@joadhenry]

anyone cancelled is immediately relevant going forward as cancel culture is not forward thinking but backward. It's a great signpost of where to look for the way out of this mess.

[@sal8454]

Why bother with Twit Twitter. That’s part of the problem!

[@JimJenz]

From Wales, peeps lighten the F up.

[@tobytaylor2154]

Lovely woman, and I remember she done an appeal for a local boy who I knew who went missing in the 80s, and still is.....Lee Boxall

[@greenriverviews6819]

GB NEWS ROCKS!

[@royalordinance]

Carol is still Lovely.

[@woodbinetitties]

Wonderful guest. As was Tessa Sanderson👍👏👏

[@guywilloughby3383]

The reason the supermarket shelves are so empty is because there are so many heavy goods drivers having to isolate because of the out of control track and trace app!! And staff in warehouses and in the stores themselves.

[@bign3ck]

Offence, that is the problem. If you're offended, who cares, you'll live.

[@HueyLewisRocks]

Well, that would be true in a world where the things that cause offence are harmless, but sometimes they're actually deadly. But then you people rarely actually think things true before speaking. Unfortunately.

[@ejones8360]

people cant just not feel an emotion…

[@bign3ck]

@@HueyLewisRocks unless you explode 🤯 when offended, why is being offended dangerous, or are you just scared to tell someone what you believe in order to keep them happy. That won't end well.

[@HueyLewisRocks]

@@bign3ck you can't really be this dim... you seem to think that 'offence' is just people being a little bit peaked by something, a joke they didn't find funny... I don't know about you but I find racism offensive and that has real and very fatal consequences for a great many people throughout history. Sexism... offensive, and that's caused untold mystery for women throughout history. Homophobia, offensive..., do I need to continue? Are you beginning to see that it's the reasons for the offence that have to be examined and you can't simply handwave it away. Think.

[@bign3ck]

@@HueyLewisRocks Free speech is absolute, even if it causes offence. People should be free to believe what they want, and have opinions that you may not like. As long as you're not threatening someone or putting people in danger, say what you want.

[@julianp4787]

Looks like she'll have her day sooner than she thought! Well done Carol :)

[@bordersw1239]

It’s all a bit weird, she lived in Wales for a time, her children studied Welsh !

[@stephendise7946]

It’s a bit weird that someone her age and with all those books doesn’t recognize the Welsh language when it’s written. It’s an INSTANTLY recognizable language!

[@roberttreborable]

interesting what Carol Decker says about Radio One. The Labour Government done us no favours closing down the "so called" Pirate Stations creating a monopoly for their own controlled station. The BBC today still have an unhealthy monopoly.

[@atnumbersixty341]

I bought the 7" single of China In Your Hand and still have it...plus the album Bridge of Spies on tape! Loved this interview with Carol, always comes across as a nice person and very down to earth. Great 'Twiglets' story too!

[@gilly9666]

I had a right crush on carol when i was younger 🥰😂

[@chicosmummy]

Saw Tpau many moons ago, still play the albums from time to time. But please stay of Twatter, it's the modern day toilet walls for inadequates.

[@trivit472]

Brilliant Carol great fun

[@jamesjarrett52]

Sadly, the follow up "Japan on your Foot" bombed.

[@paulatradies1942]

I am now your biggest fan Carol good on you, and am wondering if your next song is going to be called Wales in your hands, because you certainly rattled the Twitter twats.

[@turbolevo8703]

Love Carol and her amazing voice, Twitter is cancer and a repository of social misfits and the mentally ill.

[@mattgoodwin-king2228]

I went to see T'Pau at Nottingham's Rock City in Dec '87, amazing gig. Carol was, and still is, awesome.

[@bogboy90210]

What a pointless conversation. Absolute drivel.

[@antsilk2758]

The world is in a mess

[@plantpoweredjack9847]

When Carol Decker said she's always had her "Knockers" I was thinking of something else. Especially, when Mark Dolan said he saw the pictures.

[@paulgibbons2320]

She will be back. 👍 God bless her.

[@bommaz]

Love Carol and Tpau, I saw the band at Newport Centre with Nik Kershaw about 85/86 and the were fantastic, I'm 54 born and bred Welsh and proud but like most folks here do not speak Welsh, I worked in the music biz for a few years and I was at a gig hosted by a welsh tv show in Cardiff and was treated like s**t by a very rude woman because I didn't speak Welsh it happens all the time here, an ex of mine who spoke Welsh was ignored in a shop in North Wales because she spoke South Wales Welsh, so before anyone says I should learn It sorry I was put off by the attitude of Welsh speakers tbh, but I still love Wales.

[@ejones8360]

No one twisted her words, she said ‘in a foreign language It’s not a UK supermarket!’ which it isnt in a foreign language in this context cause she was talking about the UK, so the comments obviously corrected/pointed that out. And the fact that she didn’t spot that it was Welsh considering she lives?/lived in Wales is unbelievable.

[@wackadakka3134]

she said the the text was blurred because she had to blow it up to see it wasnt english........not easy to determine a language when its blurred

[@ejones8360]

@@wackadakka3134 ‘it was a foreign language to me’ ‘apparently it was welsh which to me is a foreign language, i didnt recognise it i just recognised it as not english’

[@MrJezvesp]

Carol Decker, I still would.

[@mabbrey]

fantastic

[@paulmuaddib3470]

Completely understandable

[@hughoxford8735]

Nice woman, but a bit weird to live in Wales and not recognise the Welsh language. I've only visited a few times and it's everywhere.

[@adamweishaupt2846]

8:06 "I'm just going through your back catalogue"...lucky devil. I'd love to go through Carol's back catalogue too

[@mdluk199]

Good in you Carol

[@andrewoliver8930]

Carol Decker has been invisible since the late 1980s. A twitter storm is the best advertising money can't buy.

[@Stuart_Cox1969]

Twitter needs to be shut down

[@SYNAPTIKMETAL]

Carol is great. Love Bridge of Spies album. Muppets just go out of their way to find offence for no reason. Screw em.

[@thewindchime6644]

'I've seen the pictures' Oh dear, I felt that cring

[@Forestfalcon1]

Remainers still on the attack.. This behaviour is achieving the opposite to what they want.. People are doubling down on the decision to leave..

[@ianlewis8086]

Nice one Carol.

[@Anastasia.Spy.]

Bravo Carol! 👏👏👏

[@manco828]

Super fan.

[@HerbertDuckshort]

Carol’s definitely got her knockers. 😘