T-Poses, A-Poses, Other Weird Poses and Why

[@doodley3d]

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[@HeavenlyHostGaming]

Yippee

[@dudeacle-fm2rl]

hello dude i watch your content even though i dont use 3d

[@jasonsecretkhorsecret8515]

YOU CREATED THE T-POSE VIRUS ALL AGAIN-

[@ZengoOshiba]

Hey so you were wondering what the frog was doing it is actually called a Flat-Pose or F-pose if you wanna be simpler

[@Nbrother1607]

ok a sponsor. At least it's not Opera

[@gillboy5762]

the T-Pose emote in Fortnite is really funny because all of the characters are created in an A-Pose, so they couldn't even cheap out on it, they had to animate the arms raising

[@PandaOfferingWater]

If i remember correctly, the T-Pose emote, they animated in this order "-Raise Arms + ominious music-" ----> "Normal/Intimidating state" ----> "Boredom/Tiredness + arms slightly fall out of place" ----> "-Shake Yourself to keep composure-" and it repeats, all in 5 to 6 seconds

[@funman-h7w]

Ok? ​@@PandaOfferingWater

[@mrhalfsaid1389]

Desicions that screw you over in the long run fr

[@PandaOfferingWater]

@@funman-h7w truly a "Now You Know" momment

[@YoutubePizzer]

I wish they had though, cos it would’ve been funnier if you could move with it and it didn’t move at all

[@LoganLe-tf1rm]

1:30 I love the little detail of Gimberly’s shoulder getting tired from holding the t-pose. See how long you can do it, it can get tough, or I’m just weak 😅

[@IsaArts2930]

And Gimberly looking over at her A-pose self before resuming her T-pose 0:41

[@mrdragon_thatsrobo72plus3man75]

@@IsaArts2930 “what the hell is that, wait oh gotta t pose again”

[@Games10GD]

currently at 3 minutes. it is rather hard

[@SinfulCreature]

I've had to hold this for 10 minutes while a seamstress demonstrated to some students how pinning different positions on clothing can help fit a client's shape for refitting and I've got to say it gets EXHAUSTING

[@LoganLe-tf1rm]

@@SinfulCreature Yeah, I do it mainly as a stretch exercise with 5lbs dumbbells. I can barely last 2 minutes…

[@VoltTheDev]

0:41 I love the Gimberly is distracted for a second by her A-Pose counterpart then quickly snaps back to reality. It really gives life to her, she I love that she has a personality.

[@clawcakes2]

"why is my clone getting bigger- oh right i'm in a video right now"

[@HampsterGirl]

I agree! 😊

[@Lavollager]

The human pose of dominance. It truly is beautiful

[@sonicthehedgehog1606]

Jesus did it too

[@Doktersocks]

Pootis Spencer here

[@PrickProductions]

absolutely magnificent…

[@arielraya5979]

U say beautiful I say epic like dynamite

[@Pawbrew]

@@Doktersocks needa dispenser ‘ere!

[@michael4numbers]

I love Chai's pose being both an A and a T pose, it honestly kind of adds to his character in a weird way LOL

[@kuromiLayfe]

That was mostly due to one side being a human arm and the other robot (the robot arm was easier to weightpaint to the armature so an A-pose sufficed but a human arm with clothes over it needs much finer weightpainting so a T-pose or even a straight raised pose is needed to get to the arm pits)

[@BoneRageQueen]

The little glances Gimberly does is such a nice touch. Those little details are why i love your videos

[@adog3129]

silence, Comments by Members

[@SharmainePeralta-kn6cw]

@@adog3129 ya

[@heyitzphil]

Fr tho. Her shoulder ache is real 😂

[@AutumnOwlex]

God I thought you said gwinbly

[@ArtandStuff13]

3:01 Luigi T-pose. How beautiful

[@ThiagottLhcas]

Is too powerfull

[@michaelw5633]

now he can win without doing anything

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

@@michaelw5633like he did before?

[@Figaroma]

Luigi T pose, love to see it

[@mr.boomguy]

Just appeared as I saw this comment

[@SolaireIntensifies]

I always love seeing the "stick" pose for snakes and long creatures, it never fails to get a hearty gut chuckle from me

[@Espurrd]

Like the raquaza in the thumbnail

[@barrysteakfriessimp_real]

it's the same for characters from games like Splatoon where their hair is really bendy and flexible. spawning characters like Marina who have long hair or a squid/octopus in SFM is always funny to see as their tentacles are always sticking out in a very stiff and unnatural straight line as opposed to how bouncy and fluid they usually are loolll

[@Trash_boat_2763]

Lol

[@driftingthruspace]

8:35 Doodley's model snickering like that is so cute

[@aidenlegobatman]

3:58, the first of its kind. The hybrid pose, a combination of an A and a T pose

[@LauraLowe]

Let's call it an Æ pose.

[@Swagpion]

​@@LauraLowe Æ

[@Larsbutb4d]

​@@LauraLowe the ash pose, how beautiful

[@mcmonkey26]

@@LauraLowei think an @ pose works better

[@captain_raviolithe2nd]

hi fi rush was already a good game and this makes it better

[@milof.4703]

I think my favorite T/A pose moment came from LIS 3's "what emotion is this?" as a new scene loaded

[@cherricake1796]

HAHAHA

[@inkerJ]

Gimberly really be giving the death stare in that thumbnail

[@dacrispmonke]

da 1000yd stare

[@LandonEmma]

She hates us all

[@faatihahnizam3582]

The "Does He Know" ahh stare

[@nasirka71]

she knows what you did.

[@theFizy]

And she knows where you live

[@youraveragechroma2139]

8:03 Doodley is probably my favorite when it comes to slotting in JoJo references when least expected. This was peak.

[@Oscar_6752]

I never thought I would see the day where Doodley and Heavy TF2 are in the same place

[@Noobcookiemonster]

Fr

[@buwayayay1502]

default-pose heavy jumpscare (2fort casual)

[@Thelampersislands]

* sliding rock sounds*

[@RN-pt2xk]

POOTIS SPENCER HERE

[@justatankwithinternetacces8338]

HEAVY IS SPY 🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🔥

[@LynnWeiskopf]

Another Tip about T-Pose! A majority of VR games with Full-Body Tracker Support (a system where you can use extra objects to calculate legs in the real world) actually use T-Pose instead of A-Pose! I’ve always wondered why, but now that I’ve watched your video, it’s because the shoulders need to move a lot more, especially up and down in Y-Poses and A-Poses, making the T-Pose the best for said arm movements.

[@slimeyar]

Not really, Vr use T pose because it's easier to align. His analogy about TPose have better shoulder topology is false

[@guyman1570]

​@slimeyar "easier to align" that's exactly why a T pose is easier for shoulder model alignment

[@guyman1570]

​@@slimeyarnot knowing how to read lol

[@Shiftarus]

​@@slimeyar they were right and you are wrong

[@anothenblue2630]

My favourite default model pose is Smash Ultimate's Kraid model. It's a T-pose except his legs are extended forward as if he's sitting. I call it the bum pose. The weirdest thing is that the character NEVER assumes a similar sitting position in the game and the bum pose only results in additional stretching that otherwise wouldn't be there. There's little discernable reason why they didn't give him a regular T-pose, but it's really funny, like a plush toy.

[@Chilling_pal_n01anad91ct]

Yo dazo

[@omegaultramax]

Something I am surprised you didn't bring up was the semi-uncommon "I-Pose", where a character is modeled with every limb facing downwards, or adjacently so. Granted, this is only applicable in incredibly specific scenarios but one of the most common ways I see it is when a character is modeled with Individual Meshes rather than a singular Skinned Mesh. ------------------- Granted, this may not be the video for that because -- again -- this is mostly for a simplification of the poses in question and why what is what, but I-poses hold a unique position between Traditionals (T-pose, A-pose and the coined "Hug-Pose") and the Unusuals. Good video regardless, but this felt like a missed nuanced topic within this discussion. Kudos & Cheers.

[@JFV644]

i see dat in roblox studio an obby creator

[@Zestrayswede]

8:35. Having his hands over his face makes Doodley's moustache look like a grin to me XD

[@wizardboat682]

I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS HIS LIPS

[@Proxnoli]

I love how he put Team Fortress 2 A-Pose as an example, a posing is possible ingame when you pick up a weapon while your weapon was out of ammo, and youd enter a-pose stage. Today its a meme

[@six_buck_dlc]

a posing heavy army

[@gamer_glenn5438]

@@six_buck_dlc Demoman is Spai! Nah.

[@travispunnett5707]

3:45 Joker asserting dominance over the shadows with the glorious T-Pose. It's Perfect!

[@JNSStudios2]

I remember I tried to make a 3d model with its arms at the side, bc I didn’t know the purpose of the T pose, and trying to rig the arms just pulled the body and leg mesh with the arms bc of automatic weight painting. It looked goofy lol Also, hilarious coincidence that the model of Chai from HiFi Rush was used here when the news of the studios revival broke today!

[@shork2526]

Tf2 is the game that has the commiunity that still use the A-pose glicth for the funny. For example: -Spinning A-pose heavy -A-pose scout spaming 1 voice line (X+5) while chasing them until they killbind

[@ethaisa1239]

another banger on a topic I love! t poses and a poses are one of those things that are almost universally known but barely understood, its always fun to explain that there is an actual reason behind it, keep up the great vids dood!

[@SewerYum]

SONIC 3 BUBBLE SHIELD SOUND 5:58 🎉🎉🎉

[@fuzzedmarz]

it’s always a good day, when another doodley video’s uploaded

[@Old_Memoriez]

4:08 honestly this is honestly one of the best things i've seen today. Tysm for showing Milanote, this seems so helpful for like evreything omg,,. I plan onto someday using this for reminding myself for a character series, with also designs and what not. THANK YOU for showing this Doodley, ur a life savior

[@paigepolaris1799]

Actual legend, answered my question way more thoroughly than I expected. Keep bringing animation topics to a broader audience, these are the kinds of generalised but still informative and entertaining videos I can share with friends and family, and they actually understand it. I guarantee you, along with many others, are bringing up the next generation of creatives... And it's awesome that you do it in almost this Bill Nye / kids TV program sort of way.

[@nolram]

Computers actually normally don’t store rotations as 3 values anymore, due to Gimbal lock - they’re typically stored as a quaternion or matrix, but then exposed to humans as these 3 Euler angles :)

[@Remystified]

i love the detail of having overwatch 2 be the source at 6:54 instead of ow1 because that skin released in ow2

[@fusion1203]

6:18 hey doodley for some reason in the top left it says smash ultimate was from 2008 instead of 2018 just wanted to let you know :)

[@Humblee115]

🦶👣🦶👣

[@fusion1203]

@@Humblee115 ._.

[@almond_22]

damn I was about to say that

[@Vanilla_Dpad]

I've been using Milanote for fighting games, helps me remember who has what and anything extra I need to know like frame data or follow up options. Brilliant stuff honestly.

[@doodley3d]

That's a really good idea, actually. I've never had a great way to keep track of frame data outside of just looking stuff up on Shoryuken, but then it's *everything* rather than what you want to focus on. Thanks!

[@sitkinator]

It is nice seeing Half-Life/TF2 things on a Doodley video. It'd be interesting for you to tackle how FPS weapon view-models are animated, since that's kind of in a category of it's own and has slightly different workflows from how animation is traditionally made (from what I've seen)

[@justinn8541akaDrPokemon]

There is the T-Pose, the A-Pose, but the most important pose is the Jojo-Pose.

[@vedolre]

Now you could imagine how screwed up if the reference pose starts with those Jo's poses

[@ChocoMokha]

8:56 zenyatta ubisoft edition lol

[@X1ma_]

Noticed that too 😂

[@matthewacuna6336]

This entire video is Doodley’s excuse to talk about the Bizarre ™️ frog

[@somelazyboi1739]

3:59 omg he mentioned Hi-Fi RUSH now doodley is absolutely my favorite youtuber

[@CEK-87]

Please do a seperate short on Pokemon T poses. They intrigue me alot. Especially Drampas.😅

[@BoinglyThe3th]

The A-posing Hoovys are the most dangerous creatures in tf2

[@georgevasilopoulos5359]

Heavy is spy!

[@RandomBoiBuilds]

​@@georgevasilopoulos5359 No! Pootis- POW, HAHA

[@DemolitionAndrew]

Scary

[@Feelipeey2]

@@DemolitionAndrew I didn’t expect to see you here andrew

[@Yikimisan]

Me when doing T-Pose: “Hello, do you have any games in your phone?”

[@table2476]

Heavy A-posing never fails to make me chuckle

[@electrothecat07]

T-pose is when your character isn't fully loaded in a game and just pops up in that goofy posture

[@Yllerob]

3:54 🚨SPLATOON MODEL🚨 (I think the caracter has that pose since it literally only moves it's arms and head)

[@Gimmickvr]

That’s the urchin person you can seek your gear to right?

[@toasterai]

0:56 why does it look like the wireframe model is screaming 😂

[@andpersand25]

OH GOD I’M JUST A SKIN

[@Lialiajusia]

Oh wow that’s actually true

[@shizzlebizzle3293]

Fr

[@Miyumakesart]

T pose. Ah yes- the supreme pose to win a battle.

[@tedioustotoro4885]

Seeing that Milanote is free makes me really wanna use it for planning my movie ideas. It’ll be better than having it in a handful of word documents like I currently have.

[@Le-coolguy]

0:36 pov: 2 fort casual match

[@Zodaxa_zdx]

seeing the model used to show the static pose then, very fluidly shows movement is so jaring, lovely stuff

[@FairlySadPanda]

It's also important to know if your engine or game has an expected standard. For example, Unity generally expects t-posed models.

[@LvkeNineT8]

1:50 sadness doing some moves

[@philcoast1031]

Gotta love the "weirdo" T-poses, perfectly functional but hilarious out of context. Off the top of my head, I remember the NiGHTS character models have a sitting pose with the arms forward, like they're driving an invisible kart. Oh, and if you liked the frog at 7:58, go check Frogger from Frogger Beyond!

[@BlackSkull1984]

T-Pose, that one Figure of Pure Horror when it moves around

[@DustyGamma]

2:49 I put forward the motion that hug pose should be the official name. Does anyone second?

[@FoxBlocksHere]

I absolutely adore your dedication to making the visuals fun, especially with Gimberly and her expressive animation. It adds so much life to everything!

[@Iswatt_Teamfortress2]

3:28 seeing half life was not on my bingo card

[@DarrenTheAsian]

Tf2 heavy A-posing never fails to scare the living f**k out of me holy shit it's menacing as heck

[@PWNDON]

5:42 I only have utilized Milanote for uh... organizing lore documents on a really specific obscure part of the lore that has barely any elaboration for a game I really like I could probably use it more often

[@goldsocks9999]

Chai's pose being half A and half T is something i love so much

[@Navoii.]

3:40 Katrielle Layton from the hit game Layton: Something somethign! I love the music from that game! I really want that game, it looks so cool, and I love the char design of Katrielle

[@skythealmighty2826]

Katrielle Layton and the Millionaire's Conspiracy! its fun and i love the music but the puzzles are a bit lackluster 😔

[@MrGoatIII]

It’s funny because in tf2, there’s a glitch that allows you to walk around stuck in the a pose. So imagine your engineer setting up a nest and you just see this unit of a man in such a dominating pose just around the corner. It’s really the stuff of nightmares

[@JacerAcer08]

Lets goo Doodley, thx for making these videos that are very well done, and keeps my attention though out, hope you're having a great day like this video gave me

[@GetOkamiDev]

Excellent timing, I am currently learning the basics of modeling, rigging and texturing for the s&box game contest and this solved an issue i was about to give up fixing, thanks :)

[@SimpleAnims]

wake up babe, doodley uploaded

[@Silverdaboi]

I like how the second the frog showed up I instantly knew it was from a JoJo game. I might have a problem

[@Jerotero]

3:18 I've been trying to get into 3D and I wasn't aware of this difference between A-poses and T-poses (it seems kind of obvious now though-)

[@bobsbrain397]

If a tf2 character's arm goes straight up (As medic, if you lose the round while healing someone, you go into 3rd person and your animation bugs out) the stretching and warping on his right arm is super noticeable, this makes a lot of sense now, learned a lot from this vid, thanks for sharing 🖤🖤

[@FirestoneAnimation]

3:28 explains the Miles Morales A-Pose in the first Spider-Man PS4 game during some segments.

[@TrueInvisible]

1st ever time watcher here .. thanks for the lesson, also your design for Gimberly is quite cute!

[@SirGa1ahad]

0:32 honestly it kinda looks like the Jack-O pose

[@MintyMSMofficial]

To me it looks like an H POSE!!

[@lightningjadejavier]

Oh nooo

[@paperbagman9012]

8:36 I love this little moment where you animated yourself giggling at your own joke.. It’s such a small detail but it makes your videos so much more personal and fun! Keep doing what you’re doing! 😌

[@Urtem]

when the heavy showed up the first time A posing i literally just laughed for a good bit cause some of the random A posas (or civilian pose i guess) are just funny to see

[@funny_void]

tf2 characters, even in animation systems, still look terrifying while a-posing you wouldn't even know if they'd start randomly sliding on the floor or the sky and going towards you and defying collision

[@keiyakins]

I love the little personality bits you weave into these, like with Gimberly looking at things and then remembering "oh right I'm supposed to be demonstrating a T-pose!". It's just fun and makes paying attention easier. Re Nintendo: my favorite default pose is probably Craig Cuttlefish's default pose in Splatoon 3. His arms are at a T, but he's hunched over and squatting since he's always doing that to depict being super old. It looks very silly, even by bind pose standards.

[@davigabriel-ig7ro]

FINALLY AN EXPLANATION FOR T-POSES AND A-POSES THAT IS ACTUALLY GOOD! thanks.

[@criggman]

Ad ends here 5:53

[@TectalClaw]

Unrelated but I love that you site your sources and the music, Plus your high quality animation and commentary. This is what KZbin should be like

[@patrickkeichigamboa1751]

1:48 Sadness: *Muffled screams of agony*

[@JonJ-k3g]

What?

[@patrickkeichigamboa1751]

@@JonJ-k3g look at Sadness's face while they're just moving her arms

[@TheSpacePyro]

Ah the A-pose one of the funniest inside jokes in team fortress two. Nothing like seeing a heavy moving around without any animations killing people and then kill binding

[@ikagura]

JoJo Phantom Blood is magnificent with that Ripple punch.

[@aikordcz4424]

That's the first time a video made me interested enough to try the sponsors product. Also, great video as always :D

[@astrokirby4678]

T pose to assert dominance

[@inkyraven64]

omg as a (hopefully) future animation student, i love your videos, they make animation look way less scary, thank you for all you do funny doodle man❤️

[@BurdenedHunter]

doodley video drops i watch simple as that 😎👍

[@PR0TOO]

I'll be honest, Milanote is genuinely a super fun website to mess around with and the way you showed off the sponsor got me interested ^^ I've used it for organizing oc lore and planning to use it to try and map layouts for a roleplay sometime soon :D Love the video man, I now have 5 random screenshots of tposing Doodley and the frog 🔥

[@Monkeymario.]

9:00 like ROBLOX characters often most of the time the limbs will only rotate around the x axis

[@Ari05741]

The T and A pose is a classic

[@jordanezell5132]

We love you!

[@Artisticspag]

I love the fact on how you explain things in a way were it works with every program, truly brilliant!

[@AtomicMercury]

Babe wake up Doodley posted

[@LostTerminalVideos]

Honestly, this video is exactly what I needed. I'm working on a model right now and was torn between choosing an A-pose or a T-pose, so this info helped a lot. Plus, the sponsor segment finally made me decide to try Milanote out and it's honestly really good. I think I'm gonna use it to help plan out the story I'm working on an hopefully plan to animate!

[@TheRandom1212Channel]

5:48 i mostly use paint but i guess im using a little bit of milanote too

[@raydenfalconer5536]

As 3d artist, i remember being so confused with sudden trend of T posing back then and wondered why they find it amusing.

[@biljanajaneva8019]

6:29 this part made me laugh out loud 😂

[@Bubaiel]

That made me wanna recoil in horror NOPE 😭

[@ihavenoideadanny]

if you want to make your community be terrified of an A-posing Heavy, make sure to not fix the bugs to get into a reference pose.

[@Just_a_commenter]

I recently finished my first Blender animation, and after all the hurdles I went over, Milanote looks like a genuinely awesome tool to help along the process. WAY better than just using Notepad to write down things lmao Gonna give it a go for my next project!

[@gugu_a_lenda]

A-Pose on tf2 is an icon since 2014, frfr

[@Kompocik]

I love your video's its RELLY helps me

[@MavrSon-hs9ve]

btw, 6:55 Zen Has an Emote where he stands up to stretch, then goes back to Normal. I wonder if they use a different model for that, which is very unlikely.

[@ken8535222]

The hug pose reminds me of astronauts sleeping in space and how their arms naturally float in front of them :)

[@SheepUndefined]

Iirc, that's where it comes from actually?

[@doodley3d]

@@SheepUndefined Yup! I discovered like, an hour before this video went live that the pose is partially based on the most relaxed pose possible, which astronauts naturally take when they're sleeping in zero gravity. A few ancient threads on Polycount actually suggested this pose (including flexing the legs a bit) to create the most naturally posed model possible.

[@SheepUndefined]

@@doodley3d Yupyup! I was gonna comment it myself, but Ken beat me to it lol. I think the idea is that it's the like, halfway point for all of your limbs, so there'll be minimal volume loss at most angles. I imagine it's a bit of a pain to model out characters in that way, but I'm still a bit new to character modeling.

[@doodley3d]

It's not really a pain to model a character like that so much as it is a pain to rig, at least if you model it exactly the way astronauts sleep. Better to have the IK legs straight and on the ground. But for the arms (like the "hug" pose), you can have the arms bent for most characters and it doesn't cause much issue.

[@mistahrnscuttah4120]

I had to subscribe. I like how u include so much info casually