T.REX TALK - What Helmet / Night Vision to Get

Lucas talks about Helmets and Night Vision.
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[@xikungao2376]

Congrats on getting married Lucas!

[@scottbonnell23]

Might explain the black eye last month😂

[@xikungao2376]

@@scottbonnell23 Well I guess I should change the comment to "Welcome to married life Lucas" XD

[@keithwestmoreland8877]

Hello Lucas..from centerville...I enjoyed the video..but I am still sat up like when I resigned my commission from Dam Neck.. I am still running Emerson fast maritime I still have the IR strobe on to the back so when we have a chopper up with flair he can track US I'm still running the same system which is the Insight Technology L3 Warrior system to ground panoramic night vision thank you I do enjoy the videos

[@caesarleon1]

Yes, congrats! I met Lucas’ husband the other day at Starbucks - he was super sweet! So happy for the new couple. What nice guys.

[@jamfd3s788]

@@caesarleon1 why were u at Starbucks in the first place 🤨

[@karllambert2350]

I'm so glad you talked about how people cry about not affording things but yet spend money on all kinds of crap they dont really need ...

[@ethanbarnes2549]

Ambient light awareness is big. When both eyes are adjusted to binos you can perceive it to be allot darker outside than it is and present a target. Can see them does not mean they can’t see you.

[@K3S01L2]

Night vision is probably "too expensive" to many people that can afford a lot of different kind of things because its like one thing, one single small unit that cost like a hell of a lot. That's why I feel like I never have money to get anything, but when I pay something on credit and pay it back in small amounts then I can magically afford it.

[@187-v5q]

Ty for the info

[@joel553009]

but you pay interest which means it cost you alot more. Im the type of person to look at total cost not momentary cost. rather be broke for a bit then be robbed in the long term

[@tamiller81]

Are you talking about male prostitutes again?

[@TheInfantry98]

Thats not smart at all man. Its far wiser to pay your credit card off in full immediately so you don't fuck up your credit score

[@musicman1eanda]

You shouldn't buy something like night vision with credit. Pay cash even if it takes longer. I feel you, it seems like a really really important item to have, but at the end of the day most of the time it'll be a cool toy in a way.

[@thejudge8691]

Me who drinks beer a lot AND has night vision 👀

[@TREXARMS]

That is a flex.

[@TheInfantry98]

So your an alcoholic and unhealthy ?

[@thegolflife7565]

@@TREXARMS Are the sets of NVGs T Rex Arms gets from Nocturnality 100% properly collumated?

[@tangodown2721]

look into the DTAMS Act in Black is dropping or Mod3's over bridge PVS-14 setups. Start with a single tube for those who can't afford the bino jump and have a clear upgrade path. Only real hurdle is making sure the second tube you purchase plays well with the first tube.

[@Chicano_pistolero]

I got a gen 3 pvs-14 for 900 from a buddy. I would have never been able to get into night vision otherwise cause of the price

[@jpk9171jpk]

I don’t know anyone that actually has night vision and I know a lot of gun people. I wish there was a place you could go to look at some of this stuff and at least look through some. It’s a hard thing to spend so much money on when you’ve never even seen night vision in person. I can shoot machine guns anytime I want but don’t know anywhere I can try out some nvg’s.

[@don8659]

What state you live in man? Me and 3 buddies in my group got WP PVS14s.

[@Korruptor]

Any US producer has dealers and affiliates listed on their webpage. Depending upon state, that could be a drive.

[@alexanderschooler579]

There’s a gun store local to us that hosts a NVG dealer monthly and they give demos. I’m in Oklahoma.

[@jpk9171jpk]

@@alexanderschooler579 I wish there was a place like that near me. I live in Pennsylvania

[@50shadesofcerakote]

@@jpk9171jpk Theres a place in Allentown that makes NVD. Might be able to do some detective work to see if they do demos. Or, if you play airsoft, big milsims that do night shenanigans rent NV. SO you dont have to buy your own. Its a good way to get some kind of experience.

[@bpintogsxr1000]

That’s so true. People complain poverty and yet the lines are always long at Starbucks. Hit em with knowledge brotha!

[@alexduke5402]

Just got my l3 filmless from custom NV last night. Holy crap! I can see in the dark! It's so awesome! I drove around the farm tonight just fooling around it's a lot easier than I expected.

[@Miniscapes515]

We use ir strobes in our coyote hunt groups. It's nice knowing where people's are at night.

[@nickjohnson8780]

Was excited to watch the livestream, but then ended up with overtime and missed it :(

[@betovargas9671]

Excellent, more money towards night vision

[@nickjohnson8780]

so true, looking at atn's ps31 in 3rd gen white phosphor. $7000 more to go :D

[@amc703]

@@nickjohnson8780 definitely don't get to hyped up on the ATN ps31.. save for PVS31s if you want those.. if you don't wanna pay 13k then get a good set of DTNVS .. ATN is a no go 🙅‍♂️🙅‍♂️

[@innawoods.larper]

I will never let go of my Marlin 1894 or mil surp bolt guns they are so fun to shoot

[@acd2505]

I didn’t think I could like your videos more, but your comments/ rant on hhv and American manufacturers has!! We in the 2a community need to push to buy more American made. Or at the very least anywhere but China!!! Awesome video btw!

[@amc703]

Hearing that MTEK has distribution issues I'm glad I knew a guy that got me a brand new Flux ballistic for $400.. only downside is they don't have a suspension system from the factory

[@danahenderson8384]

The way he said "drinking beer every night" lol such a sweet kid.

[@brantdog62]

I wish I had of known about weights when I was in the army and running NVG's! Numerous head and jaw pains from synching down my chin strap to hold em in place! LMAO

[@greywhite]

heads up, the fake ebay G24 mounts work just as good as anything. using it for dual mount breach and pvs, no issues.

[@tsjackson75]

@greywhite Would you mind sharing the link to the one you have?

[@bashkillszombies]

If a bino fails you're done, if a bridged pair fails you're using one eye and still in the fight.

[@maxfathi596]

Opinion or comparison with l3 filmless, photonis 4g and photonis echo tubes?

[@Ammonymity1776]

Now you can bridge pvs14 and change FOV by canting them out. Can't do that with binos ... but if I'm buying TWO pvs14, I'm gonna just get a dedicated bino. I'm happy with my pvs14 for now tho

[@tittiger]

You need to do some stuf thermal. If you don't have thermal you are likely to lose the fight.

[@BobBob-il2ku]

Surplus ECH helmets stop rifle rounds

[@syndicate4417]

So glad someone finally said this.

[@xxjibbzxx2037]

In regards to the Hard Head Veterans, I thought they said that they source materials here, ship them overseas for assembly because it’s cheaper, then have them sent back assembled for sale. Now, idk if that’s business smart or not because I’m not a business man. I like their bump as I have one and it does well. Still prefer my TW LTP because of the retention system though.

[@noThing-wd6py]

Gen 3s are rated for over 10k hours. To put this in perspectiv, that is: 24h every day for 416 days

[@quincyyee8549]

What are the best nightvision goggles to get and how to installed it?Quincy yee

[@knndyskful]

Hey, is that a wedding ring? Never knew you had a personal life outside of Trex arms 🤷‍♂️ lol Best wishes 🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸 Also dude, the math is “multiplication” and you multiply two times two is “multiplication”

[@theofficialsoldierthatreviews]

Always carrier IR torches and IR Chem Sticks

[@karlpond5747]

53:00 low light innovations llul does exactly that, no on board battery and run with a battery pack to reduce weight. Not putting this here as some cheap ad but really just show what kind of stuff is coming out within the last couple years in night vision

[@Victorcreed85]

Thanks for the info Lucas. I am getting ready to move into some NV. I took the approach you spoke about in another NV video of yours, buy a little at a time. I did not really watch any of the NV videos back when you posted them because it was not happening at the time. Now i am going back and watching all of yours and WPS’s as well. Invaluable info. I work for one of the companies actually you have mentioned numerous times in this video. I wish we could get employee discounts, that would certainly make things somewhat easier. Oh well.

[@platinumcontent9]

Hey Lucas how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

[@carlosboria3798]

sorry for the question a utg 3x magnifire can be used with a romeo 5

[@tomsmall6220]

What vehicle IR lights are good for nightvision driving?

[@btumminaro]

My dual PVS-14s were a good step between my single 14 and dtnvs.

[@50shadesofcerakote]

liking the nvs'?

[@elijahhughes6455]

Check out the ATN NVG7-wpt it’s 2 gen+ and it still does really good in near pitch black and it hits that pvs 7 look if you like that metal gear solid look and it’s still getting made unlike the pvs 7

[@brantdog62]

Accidental strobe flash at 54:54 Lucas? upper left corner of your armory? LMAO

[@zexnynex777]

11:07 Like how everytime we buy secondary market Supdef? Like that you mean? 😆

[@Dan-ir4db]

@T.REXArms Great video and enjoy how you get in depth with things, I mean why wouldn't you want to know your equipment when you spend all that money.

[@GUNROCKS1990]

And congratulations to your wife.

[@Gettingbetter907]

Congrats on the marriage

[@dustinshaw2419]

Is the new ITT Pinnacle tube as good as the L3 tube?

[@garyempey2056]

Can I substitute pvs 14 monocular for a thermal monocular and acheive a similar field of view?

[@susoku5615]

is there any good night vision for mounting to a weapon/optic that can also be used as a helmet mounted monocular? it cant have a integrated reticle (because of local laws)

[@undeadwarden3874]

Would a wraith 4k helmet mountable night vision be better than pvs7? I’m not gonna have the money for the pvs14. I have tried the nvg10 and they’re pretty good. But I’m looking for something a bit better. Any thoughts??

[@elijahhughes6455]

Night vision is very dope

[@blueskiesjazz]

Gen 2 vs Gen 3 is not a meaningful discussion. Let’s talk about specs for particular tubes. Getting a 30+ SNR and 68lp/mm is entirely feasible on “Gen 2” tubes. This is a GREAT tube. Very usable. My Photonis barely delivers less than my Elbit tube, which is slightly higher specced. For anyone buying, call your vendor, ask for specs if possible. Also, filmless might be slightly more bright, but the film refers to very thin ion barrier on the photocathode in the tube, which prevents chemical (and structural) degradation of the photocathode.

[@geebeaux]

I know just enough to know SNR is sound:noise ratio, and lines per millimeter. I understand that. Are there any other numbers or grades on a spec sheet I should know about?

[@thermaltoyzngear3310]

@@geebeaux EBI (background brightness), Halo (how much "halo" shows up around either IR light or visible light, the less the better), and blems (zone 3 being the best, zone 1 the worst)

[@relentlessamerican9373]

Filmless still has a thin film... lol it’s just thinner than thin filmed. No gen 2 doesn’t perform even close to the same in low light or no moon even. That ion bond screen does more than just protect the tube it.

[@blueskiesjazz]

@@geebeaux Yes, but I'd consider them secondary. Halo and EBI are the next things to really consider, which affect how various artifacts appear, such as bright point lights and others. Lower is better, in general.

[@blueskiesjazz]

@@geebeaux Also blemishes in the phosphor coating, as ThermalToyzNGear mentions. Zone 1 blems are really annoying. Look for 0 or MAAYBE 1 very minor dust spec blem there. Zones 2 and 3, I leave to preference, but blems bother ME in general. All my tubes have blems on the other hand, and they aren't debilitating. Just annoying when you start paying attention to them, which is hard when you have a non-flat background to be honest.

[@TheEdward234]

That lvndmark flannel haha 👍

[@MaxRay16]

Would a PVS14 be better than duals if the 14 has good white phosphorus tunes versus duals with low quality white or green? Thinking of building a 14 and then pano bridge or flir breach

[@fury556]

The issue with the pano bridge is the inability to collimate both of the tubes.

[@syndicate4417]

Copy/pasting from another comment, hopefully it helps :) I would say in an urban situation (likely to be closer quarters work, and also decent ambient light, from streetlights, or even home lighting and whatnot) you should go for the dual tubes. I’ve always been issued a pvs14, and like Lucas said, there’s a lot I’ve valuable training that comes from being proficient with a single tube system, but duals just allow you to focus brain power elsewhere, instead of always trying to compute/combine your eyes’ two different images. My unit is starting to get PVS31s, and they’re white phos, and it is amazing, and there IS a good difference in the amount of light they pick up, and perceived clarity of the image in low light, but like I said, in most situations that I imagine you’d encounter, green phos would suit you just fine. I have a personal set of RNVGs that are green phos, and they perform super well with nothing but the light from a smoke detector in an otherwise pitch black room. It doesn’t take much, and like I said, they just allow me to not have to think about using the night vision, they’re just like putting on a pair of green glasses, and going to work. Just my two cents, hope it helps. Edit : Another thing to consider though, is having an eye that is already adjusted to low-light. With a single tube, you will always have an eye that’s ready to see in the dark for situations where your nods aren’t convenient (you’d probably have your nods focused out to infinite distance, so close-in work can be tricky unless you re-focus them, which is why it’s nice to have a focused naked eye sometimes) I keep my duals focused out infinitely of course, but the remedy for this is to just get some scope caps, (butler creek makes the best ones) and drill small holes in the center of each. I keep them closed all the time, and they stay infinitely focused, but are also great at close-in work! If I need more light in the tubes, I can open and close the caps at will, without having to re-focus the objective lenses. Just another thing to think about

[@dezmarcel9098]

Also if you don't have nvgs and someone is pointing weapon at you with ir light at you u can still see that they are pointing ir light at you

[@poolee77]

No. Only if it is an LED based IR light. Or an IR filter on an incandescent light... even then it will be faint. Lasers and laser-based Illuminators will not have a visible signature. And if full-power will damage your eyes without you even seeing them.

[@NeverBetter0_0]

Bro that Lvndmark flannel!

[@olakehase1848]

Do you think it is possible to change the "standard" green colour of a gen 2 tube into a blue one using a filter between the tube and your eyes??

[@grif5447]

low light innovations makes something like that

[@46dgarrison]

Let’s Goooooo Shib Army

[@AaronShadowMoses]

I think I'll start with the pvs 14 and climb the ladder over time.

[@JazZ-bd5hh]

But once cry once bro

[@teds1994]

You should do a video on your 4Runner!

[@ahole5407]

Just found out the ops core fast helmet is only lvl IIA rated. 😢 all that money and I could have gotten better protection from an ach or Chinese helmet.

[@tacticaltrioadventure5224]

But if is full moon why I need night vision ?

[@michaelbattin6717]

thank you

[@martijnj3508]

What mount can i use best for pvs14? I’ve got a bump helmet

[@MegaMiniben]

40:30 “..firmly grasp it..”

[@greggoryhussey2501]

Quick question. Is it great for home defense?

[@revvyishonisd5027]

Only if you have property to defend. It’s a little too slow to throw on for a home invasion, but for patrolling property it would be excellent.

[@georgebenson3826]

👍

[@marcuswalker775]

Let's talk helmets

[@syndicate4417]

Right 😂

[@puckingfickles]

Does anyone know how well noccturn industries work?

[@chrisduncan3449]

I fell in a damn hole in 05 carrying a M249 shorty wearing 7’s. Depth perception is horrible. Get a 14 monocular.

[@elijahhughes6455]

I’ve joined the night vision gang

[@SarahGildaMarcos]

🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭the one,good morning

[@slappomatthew]

lol the rhino 2 is so much most stable than the over priced wobbly wilcox G24 mounts.

[@johnsonbruss4292]

They are cool

[@dilorenzopiero5162]

👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@CoolSmoovie]

Starts 5:00

[@caesarleon1]

“People don’t want to spend $0.18 a round so instead they want to buy [$10k] night vision.” Doesn’t make sense bro.

[@antonioblackfox]

Stop it! my wallet is scared 😨 great vids

[@codebebop]

I need an APC. Even if it’s made in Mexico 🇲🇽

[@snunez1911]

Sounds like hard head veterans helmets, secretly made in mexico

[@ThePatriotParadox]

So, when is the baby due...?... lol

[@Lunch_Peak]

A side benefit to being Mormons is we don't smoke, drink coffee or alcohol etc... Which leaves plenty of funds available for my wife and I to kit out our rifles and run high end night vision! God is good.

[@MKK-uf6hm]

Seriously

[@GWOTboys]

This dude just called pvs 7's weird? Bro were you even in the military? oh....

[@anonym5825]

SFs only pay 10k for quads?

[@Crackshotsteph]

Military discounts.

[@anonym5825]

@@Crackshotsteph yeah but so much?

[@Crackshotsteph]

@@anonym5825 I know but American made products ain't cheap. I've never tried Russian nods before but I do hear there are a difference in them with quality of devices and price points. Plus 10k is better than 15k, 20k, 25k or 40k right?

[@eddiearchuleta615]

Lol if a full moon is out you don’t really need night vision

[@i.s.o.f9704]

شركات الأسلحة الأمريكية كافي فلوسنة كضن بس تغرون بينة

[@abowcott]

That spiel at about 23:00 about bridging PVS-14s was incredibly uninformed.

[@paulpatriot1776]

De lamination.

[@SacredHeart0520]

Why do you. Act like reg civ even need or will be using. NVG . Is a waste of money . And unless your a trained and trainung constantly l training then it’s just not feasabke

[@EndTheNFApls]

Hard head veterans emailed me asking for a photo copy of an I.D. with the purchase of my ballistic helmet. I will post it below. Bought a Team Wendy helmet instead. Good morning, From time to time we get an error message from our site requesting additional verification .Your order was flagged for this verification. When a Hard Head Veterans online credit card order billing address is different than the shipping address, our policy is to verify identity before processing the order. This policy is in effect to protect consumers from the growing number of compromised credit cards used for purchase on e-commerce sites. While this is the most common error we receive, it is not the only one. If you are receiving this email, it could be for any number of reasons. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. To proceed, we must receive a copy of your driver’s license and/or another form of ID that matches the billing address used for the purchase before your order is able to be processed. Please submit ID verification via e-mail to [e-mail]. If verification is not received within a week’s timeframe, the order will be cancelled and refunded back to the card used for purchase. Thank you for your order, and understanding of this policy. Kind Regards,

[@thicccy3777]

I remember when this dude said flashlights were magic

[@TheGq88]

Suddenly peering over at my gun cabinet with all my hunting rifles I never use.

[@goinhot9133]

“You’ve got 9 different guns, which are more or less crap, sell half of them and get some capabilities you wouldn’t normally have” Truer words haven’t been spoken, but geshhh that’s a hard message to pass on to family friends without coming off as arrogant or stuck up lol. I agree 100%.

[@TheInfantry98]

Anybody who owns more than 2 firearms is one serious weirdo

[@brewmanbrett]

@@TheInfantry98 2 is 1, 1 is None, therefore 4 or more

[@fredolives5853]

@@TheInfantry98 IMO, everyone should have a .22lr pistol and rifle for cheap practice and training beginners. Then you should have a home defense weapon - either a shotgun or a assault rifle - and a pistol for concealed carry. That's the minimum and that is 4 firearms.

[@jamfd3s788]

@@TheInfantry98 owning many firearms is fine as long as all of the have real and significant uses

[@LordPerique]

This video inspired me to buy and train on a pvs14 and now that today I've just bought a DTNVS it gets recommended to me... really brings me back

[@holypolarisbatman]

15:03 "The bee's knees, the cat's pajamas, AND the cat's knees all in one" Must have taken note from the last stream...

[@ssc1226]

Practicing his dad jokes.

[@sentientfrog]

you should consider adding timestamps to these livestreams if thats possible

[@dynamicsolutions5712]

Lucas botkins was never law enforcement or military yet he absolutely destroys almost everyone with knowledge and skill. The reality is he proves it doesn't matter. His character trumps every factor.

[@ghostlight69420]

Leo and mil are literally the stupidest people on earth.

[@johnemmert9012]

@@ghostlight69420 You literally made a generalization that is stupid.

[@brianwheeler4687]

@@ghostlight69420 hard push to be the keyboard warrior of the year. Solid start.

[@ghostlight69420]

@@johnemmert9012 "literally" Closeted valley girl. Every idea that will fit inside your puny brain is a generalization. Deal with it.

[@ghostlight69420]

@@brianwheeler4687 Refute my claims.

[@battlebornops]

Damn, no notification for the live

[@death31313]

Solid advice, I've got a cheaper PVS-14 with a lower tier Gen 3 tube. I'll eventually get an upgrade but just having that alone is a game changer. I highly recommend if you can afford it get even a lower tier gen 3 unit from a reputable company like TNVC.

[@n0xxm3rcyxx]

but buy once cry once?

[@death31313]

@@n0xxm3rcyxx heres the thing, when I upgrade I can keep my pvs14. It still has plenty of uses, it's small and handy to just throw in a pocket so it'll still probably be my go to for bringing along for outdoor activities where using night vision isn't the plan but might be fun or useful. It never hurts to cary a super power in your pocket.

[@n0xxm3rcyxx]

@@death31313 got me thinking... if u upgrade you can give a superpower to a buddy (or borrow.) And then you both have one.

[@MAXimumEffort44]

We ran pvs14 in the Marines with M16A4 and acog…needless to say I just used the peq to aim

[@50shadesofcerakote]

Back then you were more freely able to do that, not so much these days anymore.

[@michaelparks7563]

What about a pvs 14 with and eotech? Or should I just nut up and get an ir laser?

[@doom-gloom]

@@michaelparks7563 you should use a red dot of some kind and passive aim. Lasers, both visible and IR will give away your position.

[@michaelparks7563]

@@doom-gloom Thank you for answering appreciate it I'm safe I'm saving up now for the 14. I want to try it out with a T2 and an Eotech.

[@doom-gloom]

@@michaelparks7563 it will work with either of those optics though I recommend the T2 as it is far more reliable and durable than the Eotech

[@benjamins7229]

Lucas I love what you’re doing and I’ve been listening to y’all for years. I train hard and I own night vision. However, I feel like you’re missing the mark by telling people not to complain about the cost of night vision. Consumers will always complain about the high cost of products, especially products that everyone should have access to, and it is 100% within everyone’s right to do so. I have heard you yourself complain about the exorbitant costs of machine guns and the like that should be accessible to everyone. Then you tell people to just accept the high cost of nvgs. I absolutely get your argument and while I do like that you’re trying to teach people about budgeting, which is a must have skill (yes budgeting is a skill) for all of us who are into this stuff, people are totally within their rights to complain about the frankly ridiculous cost of night vision. Again, I’m not hating and I own 2 nvg setups, but you need to understand where people are coming from when they’re expressing their distaste about the cost of this stuff.

[@wc570]

His complaint about machine guns is that the price is artificially increased because of the strict restrictions imposed by the government. A pre 86 transferable m16 lower is worth $15,000 in a private sale even though a physically identical ar15 lower without a 3rd hole drilled only costs about $60 because it’s not legal for more of full auto lowers to be manufactured and sold in the civilian market. The only difference is that one of them was manufactured before 1986 and has all the legally required permission slips from Uncle Sam to be sold as a machine gun. Without those laws, a full auto lower would only be worth $60. I’m sure something like a m249 saw would still cost a few thousand dollars as that is how much the semi auto versions cost anyways.

[@revvyishonisd5027]

Being a US citizen and being able to buy the latest a greatest night vision because of it, is like being able to ring up Lockheed Martin and ordering the not-for-export F22 raptor and them actually delivering it to your house. It’s one of the last untouched rights we have, and if you can afford a few guns, you can afford it too. Which is pretty fuckin cool of a deal if you ask me. Even if it’s fairly expensive. But really it’s not for what it is, and there’s multiple price points for multiple budgets.

[@Briathos1]

@@wc570 This

[@jackshyt4]

@@wc570 Meanwhile he admitted the cost of NVGs are 4x inflated from what they should be in this very video. It is also artificially increased.

[@chad9166]

@@jackshyt4 because of gov contracts, not because of artificial scarcity imposed by law

[@fury556]

The new G24 mounts are extended just like the G22Es. Definitely get the new ones. If you have RNVGs you also get a dovetail extender as well

[@jpk9171jpk]

Gen 3 pvs 14s start at $2k and go to $5k. What’s a must have and what is nice to have but not needed? From what I can tell there are 4 major differences green vs white , autogated vs non , filmed vs filmless and the quality of the tubes. And whats better a $3500 pvs-14 white p, autogated, quality tube or $5000 green ,non autogated, low quality dual tubes?

[@braxtonnelson7976]

Depends autogating is a really nice feature. White or green is a preference, I prefer white. Duals over one pvs-14 is always optimal but I think the best way to jump in if money is tighter is get in with pvs-14. NV holds its value really well.

[@thermaltoyzngear3310]

Thin filmed auto gated (OMNI VIII to OMNI VIII specs, OMNI VII being better) is a must in green phosphor is about the bottom tiered of high quality Gen III tubes. These are typically the "starter" Gen III units. The absolute best tiered tube that you can get is a L3 filmess min FOM 2376 (with the FOM being 2800+ if you know people). FOM is a measurement of SNR (signal-to-noise ratio, the higher the better) times the resolution (higher is 72 and above, but you also need good EBI and Halo), and color pallet being white phosphor (gives better background contrast and slightly better performance in low to no light ambient conditions).

[@thermaltoyzngear3310]

Also, no blems (dark, oblong deformations in the tube) in zone 1 or 2 is the best. You can have blems in your tube, but if you can, pick a tube that is either lacking in them or in zone 3 (the outer edge of your view). Blems don't degrade the tubes performance, but they are quite an eye sore if they are directly in your line of view.

[@thermaltoyzngear3310]

I'd look for an MX11769 tube for a good thin filmed autogated Gen III unit (Elbit OMNI VII).

[@jpk9171jpk]

@@braxtonnelson7976 that’s the conclusion I’ve came to is gen 3 wp autogated pvs-14 is basically the minimum. Just a lot of money to spend on something ive never seen in person let alone got to try out. There isn’t a place I know of to check any of this stuff out.

[@Ammonymity1776]

Instead of selling a bunch of crap and buying night vision.... work a lot, save money. Buy night vision. Don't make enough money? Work more, work harder.

[@kenlobit2085]

That’s the good ol’ American way!

[@alexm5656]

I completely agree on selling guns you have to get into night vision. But unfortunately the guns you just mentioned you won’t be able to get anything for. Also people need to get over getting into a dual set over a 14. A 14 is plenty for 99 percent of folks out here

[@revvyishonisd5027]

Yeah you really aren’t more constrained by a 14 than bino’s. They both have the same field of view, and you can still see fairly well in the dark with your unaided eye. I was really surprised at how good my natural night vision was the first time I took my 14 out. Most people don’t venture into the dark without a flashlight, but with a 14 you do, and the unaided eye really adjust substantially if you actually allow it.

[@MylesKillis]

@@revvyishonisd5027yup I did range 410a in 29 palms with one of my 31’s pushed up, I pushed it up so I could focus around me, and I forgot to lower it back down cause I wasn’t hindered at all with one eye

[@andrewm2104]

Everyone complaining about the cost of kit need to read or watch Dave Ramsey - especially his envelope system. Carry cash and use it for everything you can, pay down ALL your debt, and avoid buying anything that isn't absolutely necessary (while constantly questioning what "necessary" means). Saving money, and investing in things like kit, land, and gold is the way out for Western Man. Plus, using cash and buying gold/silver/lead puts the squeeze on the Banks, Feds, and Globalists. My goal for 2021 was making myself completely debt free and getting married - that's done. My goals for next year are 1. Buying 30+ acres out in the sticks, 2. Upgrading my kit to include NV and a suppressor, and 3. investing in the people around me and building a community of assets instead of liabilities. Sorry for the rant, but if youre subbed to this channel and youve read this far you probably agree.