T.REX TALK - What is the Future of Radio Comms?

[@jhlewis10]

I think the future of radio comms is people actually learning how to use their gear, and then rolling its use into their training.

[@Gnolomweb]

No. It's code. Speaking in code over and comms. Must. (code is never derived within "earshot" of technology of any type)

[@jhlewis10]

@@Gnolomweb People will never be able to do this under stress, unless they practice. That was my point. Whether you are using a radio, cell phone or speaking in code. If you do not practice this you will fail.

[@cowetareserve]

The fairest point of them all. Practice always leads to less mitigation!

[@fosatech]

Awesome talk! Glad to see more people getting into SDR's. Maybe in 5-10 years we'll finally have decentralized global communications and a self-regulating RF spectrum.

[@KarlHungus.]

The Botkin's are fortunate to have so many people pulling in the same direction. All with a wide variety of skill sets. Just about every family I know, mine included, is under mind control and broken as shit. True "influencers" for the world to come . Much love from east TN.

[@dogboy0912]

Most people are not going to be experts with radios, but I think understanding the fundamentals is important, and even fairly basic radios can still be powerful, usable tools if radio capabilities and limitations are understood.

[@dogboy0912]

"Tomorrow War" by J.L. Bourne (not related to the Chris Pratt movie). Makes pretty heavy reference to comms, radio stuff, getting hunted with DF equipment, etc. It's actually a pretty big driving force. The story is basically Red Dawn in the backwoods of Arkansas except it's against an increasingly tyrannical, shattered U.S. government as society breaks down due to weaponized economic collapse. It's an innawoods wet dream.

[@judesheckelberg5135]

That book was an instruction manual...

[@tacticalhomestead]

is this a book or a movie?

[@judesheckelberg5135]

@@tacticalhomestead Both? The Tomorrow War is a movie, and Tomorrow War is a book.

[@tacticalhomestead]

@@judesheckelberg5135 saw the move. didn't know about the book.

[@judesheckelberg5135]

@@tacticalhomestead The book is the better story.

[@baron1c]

I feel like TREX could start a new division maybe called TREX Systems or something and produce stuff that would fill in these gaps you point out

[@Gnolomweb]

there's not a big enough market.

[@leoschvaa]

@@Gnolomweb not yet

[@Gnolomweb]

@@leoschvaa okay sunshine

[@orionpax8065]

These are my favorite hind of videos. Thank you and very much appreciated!! Keep up the great work!

[@yugbe]

I'd love to see you interested in some of the LORA tech. It's pretty cool, and in its younger years.

[@xsweetxvampirousx]

This is all over my head, but I am fascinated. Love the comms videos.

[@musician445]

This was an awesome live stream for me. I'm late in seeing it. But i'm starting to understand the uses and use-cases for different communications equipment. Although i'm technically a tech person in profession, i am reluctantly so. I swear i'm a 70 year old in a much younger body and am much more mechanically inclined than technically. I suppose its just a lot of personal ignorance surrounding different terms and verbiage. It feels like drinking from a firehose that i can't make any sense of. Anyway, thank you Isaac for explaining those concepts better and continuing to help us demystify communications. It will most definitely be important skills to learn.

[@allan_bomb]

thank you for straight to the point procedure. most channels go off topic for many minutes. great content!

[@yugbe]

If we can get som software creating logs, the ,ogs could be run through a SIEM and specific correlation rules could be built for different use cases. Notifications could be setup around them, and reports on trends created.

[@HanzHermannHoppe]

That's a great idea, especially with an array of SDRs. Imagine piping in triangulation data

[@GrahamBartle]

Dear Isaac Botkin, your dad and his message are pure gold. Why are you not promoting Stand Up and Lead on T.Rex?

[@jimhenry3128]

When you mentioned mesh networks, there are mannnnnyyyy ways to forward and relay other than Js8call. APRS, Winlink (drop and pick up), and relay stations can all do so, as well as AREDN. Just a matter of knowing that they exist.

[@Redacted_Actual_]

I wish my brain didn't turn to mush everytime I try to learn about this stuff. I wish it came to me as easy as it does to many of ya'll.

[@Segphalt]

Look it into Meshtastic might address some previously desired functions you asked for in older videos and this time I'm early enough to not get washed out by other comments.

[@HanzHermannHoppe]

Isaac mentioned meshtastic during the last radio livestream

[@Segphalt]

@@HanzHermannHoppe Ah guess I didn't catch that one.

[@Segphalt]

@@HanzHermannHoppe ah he also mentioned it in this one but I commented before making it through the video.

[@GrahamBartle]

I think Meshtastic isn't "open" enough, overly expensive and sold in sets of 2 which has led people to favor LoRa DIY boards. I'm not an expert. Just the sense I get from S2 and Isaac in the past.

[@Segphalt]

@@GrahamBartle Meshtastic is what runs on the open source DIY Lora boards. (The not open source things built for hikers are way to expensive and not very good) I was talking about the DIY stuff in regards to meshtastic, the problem I have seen people encounter is the DIY boards are made for developers and are really clunky if you just want a Meshtastic device and don't have a fair bit of electronics tinkering experience. I am currently working on a project to try and rectify that with a board that has no bells and whistles but is explicitly meant for Meshtastic and comes as one unified board (kinda like the T-Beam but in a more vertical form factor instead of horizontal, with the ability to put it in a bare Bones low power repeater only mode (Bluetooth off, wifi off no GPS on board to save power) with the ability to hook it up to a 7-24v solar panel (a 12 inch panel aught to be able to power it indefinitely in conjunction with battery for night) and slap it on a hillside for those unfortunate hilly areas so long as you can find a sutible largely waterproof enclosure an clear south facing sky and a mast to put it on. You could also use it as a longer range point to point transmitter with a Yagi or other directional antenna. I guess since you are also concerned about price is $30 per unit unreasonable for something like that? I don't know I can realistically produce boards for less than that and not go broke, I'll be making it anyway just because I want it for my own use but I have considered selling a run or 2 if interest is there.

[@JayDoscher]

Great video- good stuff. I'm excited to see where SDR will go from here.

[@muddytiresclub4264]

So glad to see this channel

[@FlinFarmer]

Setting up a couple tbeams to experiment now thanks guys

[@jbe210]

I appreciate these kind of videos. Thank you and looking forward to what's in store for next week. Oh, 3 people disliked the video. :P

[@TREXARMS]

Yep there are browser plugins that bring the score back!

[@Falconguygaming]

4:54 for the start

[@wadejensen6829]

Great video! I don't know a lot about radio's but it was fascinating to listen to and learn from.

[@AZTrucker]

Tired of KZbin screwing with my notification alerts. Missed yet another live stream.

[@DonzLockz]

Great info, very informative and interesting. 👍📻

[@doomferret4750]

Please do a how-to video reflecting your findings about ATAK, T-Beam & Meshtastic. How close are you to making a Blue Force Tracker?

[@funkymonkeylovin]

Just got my HAM license, so this is timely.

[@JohnDoe-wz7lw]

I use my shit unlicensed homie #outlawhamgang

[@njtProductions]

@@JohnDoe-wz7lw lmao

[@garrettstephens91]

@@JohnDoe-wz7lw Why do you go unlicensed?

[@Gnolomweb]

@@garrettstephens91 why would you want to be a target?

[@liquidtactical6377]

Costco flannel FTW. Great episode as always Isaac

[@Gnolomweb]

yes.

[@thefreedomwarrior]

This is epic level stuff.

[@Gnolomweb]

Welcome to the internet.

[@rufusrizzo78]

Thanks for the video! As always great stuff! Have you seen the KrakenSDR? It's a good DF and passive radar in one package.

[@PoonDestroyer69]

@57:40

[@barclaymatheson8240]

Your videos are amazing and very informative. But if sh*t really went south, how much of this technology would be functional/useful? I feel like a good ol fashioned trench phone would be the most secure way to communicate

[@isaacbotkintrex]

If I can keep the batteries charged, all of this stuff works. None of it relies on the internet or servers or software subscriptions. It's completely self-contained, and I can talk to other continents.

[@woodpass]

@@isaacbotkintrex You are absolutely correct, and there are a few ways that we can produce the electricity to power your batteries. One unrelated point: you can still spoof car key fobs that use rolling codes. You plant a little device on the car that will record the key fob frequency while simultaneously jamming on an adjacent frequency. The car owner hits unlock. It doesn’t work first go, because your jamming signal kept the car from parsing out the code. Your device however, recorded that code and is ready to play it the next time the owner hits unlock (presumably right then and there because it didn’t unlock the first time). Your device does the same thing each time going forward. It will always have the next anticipated code. The owner is none the wiser, and you now have access to the car whenever you need it because your device now holds the key.

[@NonyaDamnbusiness]

DOD's "Blue Force Tracker" program was directly inspired by amateur radio APRS.

[@johngarren6080]

Any thoughts on the newer hybrid radios that is POC with DMR built into the same device so you could use say zello national along with UHF on DMR local.

[@_Delta_P_]

my brother walks into the room "why are you listening to Norm MacDonald talk about computers?"

[@grug_son_of_thog]

FYI, the difference between the Havoc and Mayhem software is the other way around. Havoc is the less-featured downgrade since it hasn't been updated in over a year. Mayhem is a more full-featured fork of the Havoc baseline.

[@MrGoodSkills]

Thank you!

[@MRKSHSTRC]

Where did you get the touchscreen module for your hackrf

[@Axio_Gaming]

Where is the link to buy the hack RF and portapack?! Would love to get one of those thanks!

[@briankendall1978]

Was Charles transmitting on 462 or 467MHz and you were listening to 437 MHz?

[@dylanjackson6685]

Did that portapack come with a power source?

[@chrisammerman8787]

Good info guys.

[@doejohn8674]

Interesting stuff!

[@granite-headgold1038]

Uh, every transmitter HAS to have filtering on the output, otherwise it would be spewing harmonics, and be highly illegal. A Hack RF may not come with filtering, but YOU are responsible for installing an appropriate low-pass or band-pass filter for your band of interest and placing it inline between the antenna and transmitter... otherwise you will be transmitting in multiple places at once. Oh, that activity you're seeing between 700-800mhz? Those are cell signals.

[@TREXARMS]

Ah yes, of course. Our cell phones can't see those signals in our metal building, which is why I forgot about that.

[@GainesMediaInc]

Let's go ahead and get that color match going for the Sidecar 2.0. 👌💯👍

[@tubeampsrule1]

Would the ic705 be a viable alternative to the qdx?

[@isaacbotkintrex]

It's bigger and expensive, but I believe it has similar bands and power

[@yugbe]

The QDX is 5w and I think the 705 can do 10w and covers much more in bands. The QDX is $60 ($80 with the enclosure). I use my Yaesu 891 with a raspi running a customized OS (downloaded). It's more bulky, but has 100w and covers the same HF bands as the 705.

[@tubeampsrule1]

Thanks for helping me out, guys! That raspi setup sounds dope!

[@infidel2.066]

TTGO T-beam 32 for the win! 😜😂 Oh... And CivTAK.

[@blackbeardadventure7342]

Do DMR Radios work, if there is no reception? Mabey an analog Radio is still the better option

[@garrettstephens91]

DMR is nice, the only issue with DMR is with repeaters. In Amateur Radio, most repeaters are set up by private individuals with the intent for the public to use. It is illegal for Amateur Radio to be a "private" hobby. It is illegal to claim or hog bands and whatnot. With DMR anyone who puts up a repeater can block or "kill" the radio of anyone that is on their repeater. You only find this with DMR. Let's just say that Billy puts up a repeater, and him and all his buddies are talking to each other using it and someone they don't recognize hops onto the repeater and does everything legal, the repeater owner (if he doesn't want other people on "HIS" repeater), can send a kill signal to your radio making it so that your radio is disabled until you do a factory reset on it. All other types of repeaters don't have this option. It goes against the spirit of Amateur Radio.

[@thebowtieguy777]

how easily can you copy logs from nest cameras?

[@joshuadavis4038]

Just wondering.. I saw your tabs... "seven a's of a bible" do you claim a particulate denomination?

[@meidamx]

Get some.

[@Gnolomweb]

carrier pigeon is only surpassed by creating your own language.

[@frosty9392]

I mean, Google does control email for the most part lol If not directly, then indirectly

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Your video on wanting to build a civilian ATAC was the entire reason I subscribed to the channel, not emaciated caffeine fiends shooting guns.

[@chrisd8715]

Why did you not go with GMRS type radio systems?

[@MunitionsDudTester]

audio is always so quiet on these

[@williamflowers9435]

So I can use this to get a restaurant table faster?😵

[@TheoIndustries]

Not relevant but here in west Texas we also have a kicks radio station lol

[@Element_Z48]

why is your volume so low? i can barely hear anything

[@joejenkins9181]

Get home bag trex talk?

[@MZ-nw7wz]

Lasers....it's all lasers.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Lasers are only LOS, but they are still very useful for communication that's hard to intercept.

[@dogboy0912]

Basically unless you're in that laser beam, you can't intercept the traffic.. unless you were somehow able to spoof and get something to look at your device and think it's part of their datalink network. That would pose its own set of problems though. If you were somehow able to be a fly on a wall in a datalink network, that would be pretty insane.

[@bblue651]

Seems like watchdogs IRL. lmaooooo

[@tofan2622]

Um. In a real war, you cannot use any sort of radio with any proficiency. It's not even limited to radios or anything with RF anymore. The only sort of "defense" would be a mesh network, but even then if it's on, you are going to be toast. If you want to survive in a war like the one happening in Russia or Ukraine, you simply don't use any communication devices plain and simple. No ands, ifs or buts.

[@timmillar8555]

so.... one can shoot like a M-Fer.... and the other one is the Evil Genius..... F**k!!! I wish my brothers were smarter (or better shooters)

[@codyrichardson8953]

Vigilance elite needs to come on here kicking doors shooting

[@lightfighter685]

Where’s that itty bitty Harrison?

[@dangerous8333]

This guy mixes up his words a lot.

[@21kiwi24]

I find him pretty articulate.

[@DGTH1992]

What background do these guys have outside of being in a larping cult?

[@dylanjackson6685]

Politics, film, music, financial

[@CallofWar5]

You must be one of those people that don't think for themselves and follow personality cults. Use your discernment to parse good information when it comes your way.

[@DGTH1992]

@@CallofWar5 oh the irony here, thank you for the chuckle.

[@jasonredman4627]

Please guys if you want training go get it from somebody who has actually done this professionally. This kid is a joke and your all falling for it. Never been in one single gunfight in his entire life. Not one. Not one…..

[@isaacbotkintrex]

Yeah, I keep forgetting that you can't talk about digital radio if you haven't been shot at. Just a heads up - do not go over to hackaday. That place is nothing but un-shot-at dudes making cool tech.

[@davidgean13]

I think the whole goal is not to get shot at.

[@mikesurber8790]

And I know men who’ve dropped bodies in the sandbox I wouldn’t trust to pull security while I slept. Who gives a shit

[@sike3000]

@Jason you're*

[@HawksEye556]

This comment gave me Forest Whitaker eye...