T4 - Evolution 2003 (Highlights, Top 8)

[@treyridingwiththehomies5884]

That was a guy named Chet Chetty by far the best anti Jin, Paul player. He played a lot of casuals against Mad Dog Jin(considered the best Jin in the world before this tournament). He was the first player I'd ever experienced that could block the hellsweep on reaction. I tried everything from hiding my CD animation in a hop to doing it like a dashing electric. None of it worked on Chet. I was only able to hit him with a single Hellsweep the entire match. Defense was my specialty in this game I thought I was the best... until I came across Chet. Nothing but respect and admiration of his skills 20 years later🙌🏽 ~TreyPhoenix

[@twelvevoltage]

do you have any tournament stories you a good storyteller lol

[@RealAntixz]

Actually wild

[@TheWizardofMNT]

Holy shit. Trey Phoenix is a name I remember. I'm pretty sure you don't remember me, but I met you at a small tournament for t6 in Iowa, ran by xiang. It was called middle of knowhere. I was very new and playing Lee at the time. I'm still mashing buttons to this day.

[@zp8377]

Do you still play Tekken?

[@AlexS-lk6wu]

That's unreal. I remember that...along with the Tekken Zaibatsu forums. Good old days. There was a guy named Ultros. I used to play with Koreans in LA. They were too good. The scene died down...new players came along. Tekken changed...

[@3rdDanPrime]

I am impressed that no one notice the first paul was casually doing t4 paul demoman and casually reacting to hellsweeps

[@FahmiZFX]

1:50 That got me like "What in the ever living frick? Did he just pulled that off on the mainstage?".

[@Jetanium]

Was demoman more difficult to do back then?

[@UncPhilly88]

@@Jetanium Yes, much more difficult. Each input has to be frame perfect IIRC for the final hit to come out. Back then if you could consistently do the Demoman you were the coolest dude at the arcade, haha. Good memories.

[@djw_tekken8490]

@@UncPhilly88 1:53:09 paul has jins parry???

[@TenguBlade]

Dog, that Paul was so clean. I am very distraught that he lost that set.

[@eliasnicolasmiranda4940]

Jinken 4: The Jinquisition

[@everettguillermo7924]

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[@taylorbee4010]

Steve is evil in this though

[@lecapitaineisonyoutoob]

Goddamn those exchanges at 16:30 though. Right out of a choreographed TAS. T4 was a mess, but it had massive action movie energy. edit: Since this doing numbers, I'd also like to gush about the timing. T4 is one of very few fighters that bother with the "rhythm" element that underpins Jackie Chan fight scenes. It was already in strings in a way it wasn't with other 3D fighters, but unlike the other games and even the other Tekkens, T4 also maintains that rhythm _between_ them, in exchanges, pokes and turns. EDIT2: Edited the timestamp by a few seconds (from :42) to better show some earlier exchanges.

[@djw_tekken8490]

Like dbz

[@DBZAOTA482]

The gameplay was modified to be more offensive and pressure oriented which is part of why Jin was so OP in Tk4. Movement was heavily nerfed (backdash was barely useful and there was no neutral crounching or neutral/back jumping) and the stages all had walls and uneven terrain.

[@DattMann]

​@@DBZAOTA482and now at T8 we're back to offensive gameplay with nerfed movement

[@Jermainskee]

Too bad tekken 8 doesn't look this good.

[@lecapitaineisonyoutoob]

Headcanon: T4 was Harada's baby. He was so pissed when it bombed that he's been sarcastically dialling up the anime nonsense in every game that followed, desperately hoping the fans get sick of it. Nobody's noticed yet.

[@OddSauce]

Bro that Paul player is GODLIKE

[@gatsuberserk4227]

Aside from being broken as fuck this game is the best in the series , no questions asked , when it comes to everything else from presentation ; art style , story , character design , no super buff dudes and cool looking female characters to name a few . Really miss everything about this level of care that Tekken had. After this , Tekken became much less about the seriousness and coolness of various martial arts and more about cartoonty style joke characters (still miss T4 Paul rip). My favourite in the series for sure. Edit: Thank you for uploading this stuff. Super cool.

[@haydenfisher1387]

Idk man, Marduk is a wall of pure muscle, but I agree

[@fed402_1]

Tekken 4 and Tekken Tag are peak Tekken. Really creative and fun games.

[@olevet75]

@@fed402_1 t3

[@blackime6392]

Everybody complained about Drags and Jacks in Top 8 but forget about T4 Jin

[@Luckywhites]

lol to this day that is the most op character in tekken history to me that just frame was godlike!

[@suiken3149]

Yeah but Jin players weren't completely invinsibile. They were beaten plenty of times in this video.

[@roryramsey9406]

Tekken on the whole is one of the best fighters of all time

[@praetorarsonist69]

Now that's an exciting tekken to watch. Round start is like those boxing/mma face off promotion vibes 👺🌛. The movement on T4 is soo good, its almost like Dead or Alive movement, I'm not surprised if they got inspiration from it including destructible stages.

[@bakurasensei]

T4 is the one time youll see me rooting for the paul player😂

[@Jetanium]

This game was so dope.

[@VengeanceTK]

18:30 - this looks like a TAS fight

[@true2074]

What I find funny about this shit is that 95% of players are jin mains (that unblockable comes in handy huh)

[@zSilverEye7]

That unblockable alone pretty much made Jin top tier lmao

[@DBZAOTA482]

There was no way around a just frame Laser Scrapper.

[@armtc]

Yea Tekken 4 is highly unbalanced lol. If only they had released another version with balance patches to make certain characters less OP, this would be my favorite Tekken of all times hands down. (maybe it still is even with its flaws)

[@justevolve]

​@YeahNaw can u blame the game for being broken? SHITS OLD man ofc it gon be broke

[@suiken3149]

Funny that I enjoy these matches more than any T7 Evo finals because most of the players here rely on footsies, hard counters and not entirely relying on launchers or boring ass, long screw combos.

[@cank2111]

Funny cuz thats why everyone didnt liked the game, most people that came from tag 1 stayed cuz they liked movement into launcher more then the jab festival in t4.

[@suiken3149]

@@cank2111 TTT1 juggles are not as long as T7s and most top players are more fundamentally sound.

[@cank2111]

@@suiken3149 oh u said launch into long combo, sry, didnt read well lmao 😅

[@DBZAOTA482]

​@@suiken3149 TTT1 is similar to T4 but a lot more fast paced. T4 tried to give a slower, more defensive approach and it didn't quite work out. T4 had some good gameplay ideas like walls and sidewalking.

[@Hworange59]

because tekken 4 is perfect..

[@Electroaltruism]

That's a lotta Jins

[@davetorres3906]

Dah !

[@FullMetalHeart_one]

he was broke af

[@sethandrews401]

One of the better characters in 4

[@zSilverEye7]

@@sethandrews401 *THE best character in 4.

[@sethandrews401]

SilverEye 7 tbh it came out when I was only one so I haven’t played it in atleast 10 years and I didn’t want to say a certainty unless I actually knew. But he’s always been a bad ass because of this game.

[@JenGM24]

Man this makes me wanna fire up my ps2.

[@nosleeep1]

The shoving into walls thing looks interesting, would love to see that make a return

[@ohara_tk]

I'm pretty sure steve is the only one who still has these throws

[@zSilverEye7]

It was pretty much an open up for a fast attack.

[@Jakc_Tk]

No you wouldn't lol

[@IeuroI]

this was one of the best aspects to t4 bryan fury pushes into aby of these possible: 1 2...1..d3...d4...f3...d1...f2 1 1+2 switch ups were fantastic

[@shawnnbits]

It is. Everyones getting a wall crush in TK8

[@songoku9348]

I love Tekken 4. T4 had a certain charm to it when it came out, I can’t quite explain it but it’s exciting to play. The attract mode especially with Kazuya’s return etc. Tekken 5 onwards the character motives and plots took a massive downgrade from this game.

[@ram_taka3436]

yeah presentation wise this is literally the best tekken, no doubt

[@Ascensionly_]

I agree.

[@thomaskaaz1]

I couldn't agree more. Nice to see I'm not alone in this.

[@the_real_ali_the_great]

Tekken 4 I love too it's my favorite but next to it is Tekken 5 and Tekken tag tournament I felt like those 3 where more serious then the newer Tekken games

[@Mobius1_Supra_YT]

Same Here Tekken 4 Is Still My Number One Game In The World 🌟💙♥️

[@metallicwill5231]

Pure gold!

[@chaseglowmakeup5379]

Miharu was going in!!

[@RegentDorn]

So much more interesting than the jugglefest the series became after 4.

[@Hworange59]

true.

[@msu15]

1:09:02 Man that Xiaoyu player is sick!!

[@nemesisprime2993]

The most realistic Tekken ever made.

[@percnowitzki1724]

Dumbest tekken ever made, imagine a tournament and 98% of the players are using Jin because he has broken moves like unblockable launchers

[@nemesisprime2993]

@@percnowitzki1724Yes some of his moves was broken, but it's the most realistic Tekken ever made so don't be bias, the this and movements that is in Tekken 4 are not in any other Tekken and you know that.

[@nathanniesche6380]

​@@percnowitzki1724 That was a major issue, but imagine if they had improved upon this formula and continued to patch out the brokenness of certain characters like Steve and Jin, instead of just dumping it entirely.

[@olevet75]

@@nathanniesche6380 am sorry somewhat new to t4, absolutely love all about it though, what is breakage of gameplay people are talking about most of time I haven't noticed anything speacial but am an amuture tekken player, though played since Tekken 3 was released

[@MuhammadAli-fj8qh]

​@olevet75 you will understand what it means once you keep playing tekken and become a loyal player. But for starters broken means when a certain character has moves that gives them unnecessary advantage and/or their attacks take too much of the other player's health bar.

[@Saint_Magnapinna]

Damn that just frame lazer scraper what a cheesy move XD

[@ZzigZaG00NIN]

wow 2003 is so crazy to me

[@christiansamuelstadeus]

not sure, if it's just the game, that is so much better, or the players. like jumping over wr1+2 on reaction, the justframe demoman, the justframe geysir Combo, the absolute sick movement and parry styling. when i'm high, i just watch this video and freak out. when i see T7, i think "huh, he didn't know that knowledge check or guessed wrong. screw this boring shit" in T7 you see that boring mixup into half life. wow, much interesting. those were the days...

[@TheAmicableWarrior]

We need a Tekken 4 remastered with some balance changes and 2 additional characters.

[@slightlyloyal1442]

Makes me wonder how good the game would he if only they made a balancing update based on this version like a T4.5😮‍💨.

[@icydimensions3475]

OG

[@TakenGTs]

Damn before knee went to tournaments these are the real ogs right here o.o

[@user-md1ol7nj7h]

knee played tekken 4 as well tho

[@TakenGTs]

@@user-md1ol7nj7h he didnt compete in a tourny tho...

[@MysticalHeartless]

@@TakenGTs yes he did.

[@russman8707]

Six-String Phantom if you see the knee documentary he didn’t start popping until the 2005 Tekken 5 tourneys

[@TakenGTs]

@@russman8707 Thank you! These fools think they know everything 🤣

[@MegaTroySmith]

Why are all of the matches on the cage stage. Was it a preferred one, or was flat stages only allowed?

[@DrEarthwormRobotnik]

Due to how some stages in T4 allowed a lot of busted shit, most tournaments allowed very few stages.

[@jahmon7117]

Pretty sure there was infinite wall splats in some t4 stages

[@TenguBlade]

@@jahmon7117 Yeah, the forest stage in particular comes to mind

[@MeelisMatt]

we should have hq quality version, this is historical

[@TruLuan]

I wonder how the meta of this game would've been like if they banned Jin. It honestly could've been one of the greatest fighting games ever imo

[@hasi706]

Out of all the old Tekken games this is the one I would've liked to have seen get a Dark Resurrection esque update the mostt

[@ToyotaKudoFan]

don't ban Jin, just tone him down a lil

[@assassinonprozac]

Then you would’ve had Lee, Steve, and Nina running amok instead. Tekken 4 is a lot more balanced than people think it is but let’s not pretend it was Jin alone that ruined the game.

[@suiken3149]

Funny that I enjoy watching T4 matches over "balanced" T7 matches. I guess it's because I prefer more fundamentally sound matches over flashy juggle fest.

[@olevet75]

absolutely

[@microblast3700]

That paul was kinda insane, demoman in this game is like 1 frame timing

[@JonJones-ux2sn]

I miss the short sweet combos here. In newer tekkens you die if they touch you

[@ninjaboylamel]

HOW DO U HAVE THESE

[@Kiharu_Sunzuko]

Jins everywhere ❤️🥰

[@HCI1stH4rtG3il]

Parry is everything

[@FightingForLaughs]

Wow lol Marduk seems really good in this

[@ToyotaKudoFan]

he was low tier iirc, but still had some broke stuff, all chars did in T4

[@FightingForLaughs]

That's cool, I would've been so hype if I had known about the competitive scene back in the day

[@FightingForLaughs]

Who were the top tier characters?

[@ToyotaKudoFan]

@@FightingForLaughs Jin was #1 by a big margin, followed by Nina, Steve, Miharu (her frame data was much better than Xiaoyu's so everyone picked her over Xiaoyu) and Lee

[@FightingForLaughs]

@@ToyotaKudoFan that's cool, thanks!

[@aspreedacore]

Why do high level nina's not finish the command throws? Is it to keep advantage and position?

[@PoloBoyPrince]

for oki set up

[@redwinebryan]

tekken 4 looked wayyy harder than tekken 7 and 8 no cap the moovements looks to have so much more freedome

[@ikedatike2533]

You couldn't do Korean back dashing in Tekken 4 but the side stepping and sidewalking are extremely good in this game

[@msu15]

40:15 did he just teabag lol!?

[@mackyslayer]

37:59 whats that??coincidence or just a luck??

[@theanticzar]

Who is who? Any time stamp

[@kusammk]

I wonder why they didn't release update version like 5,6, tag 2 and 7

[@cank2111]

I think t4 wasnt that popular so no one realy cared about the busted stuff in the game.

[@msu15]

Any reason for Miharu over Xiaoyu?

[@ToyotaKudoFan]

she has better frame data over Xiao

[@msu15]

@@ToyotaKudoFan 10-4 thank you!

[@BrolyKing801]

Tekken 4 the best

[@VictusPrime]

Wait, you could move around the stage before a match even started in T4? lmao, that's definitely a design choice

[@utkucansahin8504]

Does anybody know who are the players?

[@mbunji]

One of them was my close friend treyphoenix he came in 3rd place using the jin with the white gi. Hes also the first match you see

[@lewissteward65]

@@mbunji that’s so cool

[@mbunji]

@@lewissteward65 thank you kind sir.

[@ThatDogBomber]

I also recognized ChetChetty and JackieTran.

[@annabenzerrouk2168]

I know i`m really late, but winner was Jinkid, 2nd place Jackie Tran (who won Tekken 4 at EVO one year later), 3rd place TreyPhoenix, 4th place Chetchetty (Paul player) 5th place Ed209 & Dom, 7th place JOP & idk the other 7th place player name.

[@_kishken_1595]

Where did you find this?

[@theinktician]

Steve

[@cank2111]

Lee

[@mihailcirlig8187]

joe mama

[@Katana2097]

no u

[@msu15]

I'm noticing nobody is picking King, Law, or Hworang. Where they that bad in competitive?

[@goodusermaadinternet6774]

King was notoriously dogshit in this game. Maybe even the worst character.

[@msu15]

@@goodusermaadinternet6774 Gotcha. Just to slow, awful combos etc?

[@goodusermaadinternet6774]

@@msu15 Yup. Both of those reasons, plus his moves were toned down and his throws were easier to break. This game still had one of his best outfits tho.

[@Hworange59]

​@@goodusermaadinternet6774 depends bro, I still believe it depends of the player, but you're not wrong.

[@bobo_gemini3008]

Tekken 4 jin beats day 1 leroy

[@eliasnicolasmiranda4940]

thanks god Tekken 7 has updates to nerf him

[@Entertainment-is6ex]

Isn't this Evo 2004 if Jackie Tran won T4? Unless he won both years 😂

[@steamedbuninvasion5792]

I guess, this is probably how Tekken 8 is gonna be like.

[@akaiyui9300]

Is it me? Or this version of Tekken looks like Dead or Alive.

[@aldxbaran]

Just you lol

[@ali09gaming58]

This was true 3d tekken with kinda like an 8 way movement and cam angles similar to dead or alive.

[@akaiyui9300]

@@ali09gaming58 And uneven terrain. Dead or alive still has that.

[@specter_of_thestars2500]

They borrowed a lot from DoAs stage design philosophy(its apart of the fight like a character almost), ultimately they couldn’t fix or didn’t know how fix the wall splat bugs and infinite’s. Uneven terrain also played a part in it too

[@Moruma]

@@specter_of_thestars2500 it’s not that they didn’t know, they didn’t spend enough time on it due to negative feedback.

Jin used to be so bullshit back then. Imagine having an almost safe hellsweep

[@niletaylor5658]

Tekken 4 based on true events

[@jooyichen]

I watch this and feel like its not different than Tekken 7. The fundamantals are all here.

[@RealAntixz]

Everytime I watch the graphics get worse

[@jared1932]

This is like a Japanese propaganda

[@דודשושני-ר2נ]

That is online or against bot

[@StevefromPR]

this is a tournament back in 03 dude

[@דודשושני-ר2נ]

@@StevefromPR I know,good times...

[@matthewanderson-jones481]

Hey I wish people knew I made all of tekken

[@AttitudeIndicator]

@The Jouth it's true

[@timothymoss5007]

That Jin player was garbage.

[@zSilverEye7]

Lmao which one? There's a multitude of them😂