Ta-Nehisi Coates - “The Message” & Understanding the Humiliation of Oppression | The Daily Show

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@mamaconsuelo7609
@mamaconsuelo7609 Ай бұрын
So interesting and informative to hear an African American and a Jewish American converse so openly and intelligently about their cultures and our current reality. Great interview. 🙏
@TheKhaliente
@TheKhaliente Ай бұрын
Did you expect them to grunt at one another while discovering their thumbs?
@whiskyjames4200
@whiskyjames4200 Ай бұрын
Yes, it's a beautiful thing! That's the America I'm accustomed to. My 86 year old [BLACK] mother worked for a married Jewish [doctor and lawyer] husband and wife for over 40 years. The best people I've met.
@Azmodaeus49
@Azmodaeus49 Ай бұрын
​@@TheKhaliente😂😂😂😂😂
@JJ-fr2ki
@JJ-fr2ki Ай бұрын
Coates does not come from the Black church, but a secular tradition which remembers better the and is better at dialog with Jews. Brother West is a Christian. exception because he’s read everything. I’d say the amount of anti-semitism in the Black church, as shown against Bernie Sanders is about the same rate as more elderly than boomer Jews and racist Jews. Sadly, Jewish racism against Arabs and Blacks exists, but mostly died out with this Gen Xer’s grandmother.
@92jwiener
@92jwiener Ай бұрын
​​@@TheKhalientethe thing is that these long form cultural interviews aren't particularly mainstream, from my perspective, unless we go to this comedy show. Honestly, I am very ignorant about where to go to find more constructive interviews between intelligent hosts and intelligent guests, but it seems that most big networks don't do that. Those that might, like news stations, don't seem to have time for longer interviews like this outside of programs like 60 Minutes, and are held to higher standards than Comedy Central, where you can just talk, swear, and have hard conversations like everyday people. If you know what other programs have conversations like this one, please inform me if you have the time.
@CauseOfFreedom-mc7fx
@CauseOfFreedom-mc7fx Ай бұрын
Oh man, I cried watching this. Never in a million years did I think I would ever see this being discussed like this where Palestinians are considered human
@NN-cc6dd
@NN-cc6dd Ай бұрын
Two men driven by humanity rather than self interest
@kayiness
@kayiness Ай бұрын
@@NN-cc6ddhumanity and the search for truth in a matrix of delusion 🤍🤎
@tritondriver1
@tritondriver1 Ай бұрын
My Dad had tears in his eyes when the Flag of Mississippi got rid of the " Stars and Bars of the Confederacy" he's 87 yrs old
@GardenerGeorge
@GardenerGeorge Ай бұрын
@@tritondriver1What does that have to do with the conversation you are commenting beneath ?
@iseeyou2810
@iseeyou2810 Ай бұрын
​@@GardenerGeorge it has everything to do with it.
@willh8682
@willh8682 Ай бұрын
Had to come watch this interview to cleanse my palette after watching that monstrosity of an interview with Coates on CBS. Jon Stewart a comedic class act as usual👏And I can’t wait to read Coates’ book
@celestialnubian
@celestialnubian Ай бұрын
@willh8682 Same with me. I watched that bs on CBS and immediately wanted to know what the other interviews on his press run were like.
@americanwomanFL
@americanwomanFL Ай бұрын
I don’t know about the CBS interview, but I listened to him being interviewed by Terry Gross on NPR today (well, it was taped on Thursday, but broadcasted today). I suggest you look it up as I was very moved and enlightened.
@DadMDDC
@DadMDDC Ай бұрын
Great conversation!
@m.-.-.
@m.-.-. Ай бұрын
CBS interview showed their lack of journalistic integrity
@m.-.-.
@m.-.-. Ай бұрын
CBS interview put on display their lack of journalistic integrity
@hijones2968
@hijones2968 Ай бұрын
I love the "your oppression will not save you" component. Victimhood doesn't equal virtue, very insightful and yet validated the humiliation. So important.
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
The humiliation is on ppl who oppress. and this author doesn’t speak for black ppl so mind your business
@joyousjustice
@joyousjustice Ай бұрын
Yes. Thank you for affirming this!
@cosmosaic8117
@cosmosaic8117 Ай бұрын
You do realize that Ta-Nehisi said that he “felt nothing” while watching 9/11 happen because of “white supremacy” right? And you’re all gloating over him?
@Darksoil4555
@Darksoil4555 Ай бұрын
This why we Palestinians fight back
@cosmosaic8117
@cosmosaic8117 Ай бұрын
@@Darksoil4555 We Stand With Israel ❤️
@americanwomanFL
@americanwomanFL Ай бұрын
Just heard him being interviewed by Terry Gross on NPR this afternoon and I was blown away! In fact, I sat in my car for 20 minutes to hear the whole thing. What a teacher. What a father. What a human being. What an American treasure.
@TheSkypeConverser
@TheSkypeConverser Ай бұрын
Read his books! :) Between the World and Me is the one I read a while back, I need to give it a re-think. And maybe get his new book!
@The1234KAS
@The1234KAS Ай бұрын
It was such a great interview with Terry. I especially enjoyed the Shakespeare portion. I sooo would have loved to learn about challenges writings like those through someone like him.
@noa-wu9sn
@noa-wu9sn Ай бұрын
What an dam dam you are.
@snow-uq4gx
@snow-uq4gx Ай бұрын
Thnk you for your honest opinion 💯
@loneshine
@loneshine Ай бұрын
@@noa-wu9sni feel sorry for you.
@ForrestGreenIII
@ForrestGreenIII Ай бұрын
I loved it when Coates argued that what's HAPPENED BEFORE, DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
@bimfred
@bimfred Ай бұрын
there are currently more slaves than any other time in history. 50m. according to the UN. 70% are women.
@samankhan964
@samankhan964 Ай бұрын
Yes!
@swizzy215
@swizzy215 Ай бұрын
I would love to agree with him but..,
@nicolaablett7790
@nicolaablett7790 Ай бұрын
EXACTLY
@nazeemkadir1257
@nazeemkadir1257 Ай бұрын
​@@swizzy215it's ok my friend at least you agree that it's happening again
@kyleville
@kyleville Ай бұрын
Thanks for not being CBS!
@shotelco
@shotelco Ай бұрын
...oh, you saw that too?
@emjay2045
@emjay2045 Ай бұрын
❓❔❓❔
@bzh7648
@bzh7648 Ай бұрын
I thought the same thing. I saw the CBS Mornings interview, and they just didn’t get his book.
@1yane
@1yane Ай бұрын
True, that interview was disgraceful
@vanessawhitneypro
@vanessawhitneypro Ай бұрын
It's a complex issue. Even for journalists. They're not infallible... they're human. At least they wanted to give him a platform. I feel like Jon just addressed it with him differently. Anyway... I agreed with what Jon said about "Never Again... For Anyone." Peace.
@imaniwilson1848
@imaniwilson1848 16 күн бұрын
Thank you for talking about the humiliation piece. 🙏🏽
@ruba1416
@ruba1416 Ай бұрын
"We have to guard against the temptation to accept that history is necessarily the limits of who we are..." - beautiful! 💯✨️🙏🏼
@ladydi876
@ladydi876 Ай бұрын
Yes ❤
@NeoDragonFlame
@NeoDragonFlame Ай бұрын
Powerful
@samankhan964
@samankhan964 Ай бұрын
Very
@presentfuture7563
@presentfuture7563 Ай бұрын
Coates restores my faith in writers and my hope for humanity. Every time.
@Erie_cutie
@Erie_cutie Ай бұрын
Yes💯
@zaidal-hindawi1784
@zaidal-hindawi1784 Ай бұрын
Ta-Nehisi, thank you for speaking up for the oppressed Palestinians 🇵🇸
@Namaewa32
@Namaewa32 Ай бұрын
Beep beep! Pagers for pallywood
@mideastgirl8926
@mideastgirl8926 Ай бұрын
@@Namaewa32 celebrating t r r r s m, huh?!
@mideastgirl8926
@mideastgirl8926 Ай бұрын
@@Namaewa32 🤮🤮🤮
@TimelessTimothy
@TimelessTimothy Ай бұрын
@@mideastgirl8926 This is the most impressive effort to work around YT's comment deletion algorithm I've seen on YT so far. I commend your comment, and I commend your ingenuity. Love the snark too--best way to rustle the... lizard skin of these trolls.
@IDF-j2s
@IDF-j2s Ай бұрын
The akbars are getting ala akbared 😂😂
@benevolentrobotoverlords
@benevolentrobotoverlords Ай бұрын
I find it fascinating how some people respond to trauma with "I hurt so now I'm going to devote my life to preventing hurt and helping others overcome their own" whereas others respond with "I hurt so now everybody needs to hurt." I wonder what factors lead to each response.
@TheVuduYuDu
@TheVuduYuDu Ай бұрын
Excellent question!
@TheVuduYuDu
@TheVuduYuDu Ай бұрын
Excellent question! I’d venture to answer how one responds to the fear that the lack of a sense of security created from the trauma.
@GeorgenaFelicia
@GeorgenaFelicia Ай бұрын
The state of Israel was superimposed on the surrounding cultures. Not supportable.
@ChrisMissal
@ChrisMissal Ай бұрын
Access to power.
@brbjk.m.846
@brbjk.m.846 Ай бұрын
Money. Got plenty of money you'll be more understanding. You a broke fool u gonna make others pay.
@michaelsigman8942
@michaelsigman8942 Ай бұрын
I’m Jewish. Mr. Coates is a brilliant and sensitive mind. He has my profound respect.
@ericbaum228
@ericbaum228 Ай бұрын
He's just projecting racial problems in America onto a region with completely different dynamics. He was in Israel for less than two weeks and knows nothing about it. Shame on Jon for apolozing for Israel.
@handthala
@handthala Ай бұрын
@@ericbaum228 Coates would likely have been even more outraged had he spent more time in the Occupied Palestinian Territory.
@boilingpasta879
@boilingpasta879 Ай бұрын
​@@handthala nah
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
@@michaelsigman8942 he doesn’t have Black peoples. As he is silent about Sudan. And tries to equate the violent Palestinians to the nonviolent civil rights movements with MLK. As if Black ppl deserved mistreatment bc they acted as vengeful as the Palestinians. When they never lifted a finger even after being released from slavery. It’s disgraceful. And the ancestors he keeps referencing were not friends with Arabs or Palestinians.
@johndunne7900
@johndunne7900 Ай бұрын
@@ericbaum228 you nailed it, absolutely correct.
@knijert
@knijert Ай бұрын
To think that the most sincere and intelligent conversation I’ve seen on American television this year would be on a comedy show!
@greywolf845
@greywolf845 Ай бұрын
It’s funny how comedy can be used to talk about issues with some levity
@fontomfrom
@fontomfrom Ай бұрын
Both are thoughtful dude!
@Ledav22
@Ledav22 Ай бұрын
This is America…
@carolinechew2432
@carolinechew2432 Ай бұрын
Seriously. Wow. May Jon Stewart live forever 😊, so grateful he came back.
@cosmosaic8117
@cosmosaic8117 Ай бұрын
We Stand With Israel ❤
@joshuambean
@joshuambean Ай бұрын
The Daily Show and Comedy Central are so far ahead of where the rest of mainstream media should be that it's beyond embarrassing. This is exactly the kind of conversation that almost everyone wants to watch. These are the kinds of conversations that our world needs in order to work through the issues we are dealing with. And then you tune in to CNN, MSNBC, CBC, BBC, etc. and it's a joke. They are just spinning their wheels worried about ratings and ad sales; instead of fostering conversations that matter.
@Hat_With_A_Hat_On
@Hat_With_A_Hat_On Ай бұрын
I've been watching and reading this same conversation for twenty years. They literally say nothing here I haven't seen, heard, or read multiple times. Ta nehisi Coates is a bit of a snake oil salesman if you ask me. He's made a living off talking about this stuff. Never trust people with that fake laugh man lol.
@MaijaKarklins
@MaijaKarklins Ай бұрын
Any chance that in 2028 they could moderate a presidential debate? Please!!
@1Bornconfused
@1Bornconfused Ай бұрын
The Daily Show, and Last Week Tonight, are doing the work that ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NBC has hired people trained in journalism to do, but don't.
@joshuambean
@joshuambean Ай бұрын
@@1Bornconfused 1000% agree.
@ॐIo
@ॐIo Ай бұрын
That's because they allow different voices, the producers may not even agree but they're true Liberals who champion freedom to a degree
@asmasaud8305
@asmasaud8305 Ай бұрын
Thank you for representing the voice of the Palestinian people. So much trauma and continued suffering they face and these conversations are so needed
@whitesauce923
@whitesauce923 Ай бұрын
@@Nyyankee718I think Palestinians have the right to resist their occupation. Saying that they “brought on themselves” is merely a way of downplaying the barbarity of Israel’s response. Israel is an occupier in Gaza, like Russia in Ukraine. If we can have moral clarity on the latter, we can also have clarity on the former.
@eleanorzissou
@eleanorzissou Ай бұрын
@@Nyyankee718You has to spi that, didn‘t you?
@kittybus
@kittybus Ай бұрын
@@Nyyankee718​​⁠​⁠​⁠According to UN data, 5,365 Palestinians were killed in Gaza between 2006 and 10/7/23, so to say that the assault on Gaza was “trauma brought on by themselves” is disingenuous, and does not explain the ongoing apartheid, displacement, violent pogroms in the West Bank that have ramped up in recent months. Your rhetoric sounds terrifyingly similar to those who enabled the Nazis before and during WWII. Never again means never again for all of humankind.
@Nyyankee718
@Nyyankee718 Ай бұрын
@@kittybus yes causalities from wars they started. Since September 2000, Palestinian terrorist attacks have claimed at least 1,456 Israeli lives before october 7. palestinian arabs have been killing jews in the land decades before even the state of israel even existed. like the hebron massacre of 1929 when dozens of jews were killed
@arthurtrommel1438
@arthurtrommel1438 Ай бұрын
8.10.2023
@Almitrab
@Almitrab Ай бұрын
I just watched Coates on MSNBC where he host was talking to him after the CBS interview. And the host shared some really racist reviews that have been written about his book. Coates responded that they are doing exactly what he wrote about. Then I came here because I thought if the book was anti-isreal Stewart would call Coates out. All I can say after watching this interview is wow, his book sounds amazing and raw, and what we need right now! I ordered it before I finished this interview! Thank you John Stewart for being willing to have open and honest conversation about something so personal and so painful.
@deeznutz8320
@deeznutz8320 Ай бұрын
Johns hatred for white people is strong enough to look away from the Israel critique Aslong as Coates blames whites for everything John will support him
@earthtaurus5515
@earthtaurus5515 17 күн бұрын
Which host on MSNBC was it? I watched his interview with Alex Wagner on MSNBC and didn't hear her make such remarks so it must have been someone else?
@thomasjosullivan9179
@thomasjosullivan9179 Ай бұрын
As an Irish man I rage how could we have allowed the Famine here in 1847, there was load of food but we Irish were enslaved people living on one crop Potatoes. When you are hungry you are weak, when you see your children die you feel hopeless. I feel for the people of Gaza
@mbreeze2203
@mbreeze2203 Ай бұрын
a Palestinian mother said, hunger takes away the bodies of children first, they cannot handle it the way we can. As an Arab I'm trying to fast 2 days a week just to remember that pain.
@moomoochacoo
@moomoochacoo Ай бұрын
❤❤
@ceoa
@ceoa Ай бұрын
This is what I mean when I say oppression of any group of people will cause an uprising....a change for the better or WORSE. Trying to annihilate is inhumane.
@sineadadamus2099
@sineadadamus2099 Ай бұрын
💔
@constantinvaldor3742
@constantinvaldor3742 Ай бұрын
Irish always with their potatoes 🇬🇧🙄
@jayt4886
@jayt4886 Ай бұрын
Ta-Nehisi Coates needs to be protected at all cost, he is a national treasure. I appreciate this conversation between these two. Jon, Thank you!
@tupd
@tupd Ай бұрын
We need new phrases for people we love and care about and stop manifesting this fear.
@justthinkin5956
@justthinkin5956 Ай бұрын
Coates is sooooo smart.
@jamberry8026
@jamberry8026 Ай бұрын
@@rafaelw8115 She posted that for likes and doesn't give a dam about those people or Mr. Coates.
@jamberry8026
@jamberry8026 Ай бұрын
@@rafaelw8115 Because I know what I'm looking at when I see it and know what I'm hearing when I hear it. No delusions!🙄😑
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
No he is not. He is so silent on Sudan while trying to burn bridges btw communities who have been friends for generations. He can go kick rocks in Palestine- they don’t care about Black ppl and since they love being violent, they can solve their own problems. MLK never did and never would.
@dionnemills5563
@dionnemills5563 Ай бұрын
Thank you Jon for treating this topic and this writer with the respect and understanding that they both deserve!
@radav87
@radav87 Ай бұрын
Challenging a one sided book in an interview is journalism. You are not supposed to just sit and tell them they are great.
@sandramckenzie2424
@sandramckenzie2424 Ай бұрын
😊
@sandramckenzie2424
@sandramckenzie2424 Ай бұрын
I have new-found respect for Jon Stewart’s honesty and humanity in addressing this sensitive and very important world topic. His Jewish ethnicity did not blind his ability to see and call the truth for what it is, without fear of selling out his faith. I recommend this interview to everyone. It was emotionally and intellectually moving. There may yet be a way out of this hotbed of problems.
@cosmosaic8117
@cosmosaic8117 Ай бұрын
We Stand With Israel ❤
@cosmosaic8117
@cosmosaic8117 Ай бұрын
You do realize that Ta-Nehisi said that he “felt nothing” while watching 9/11 happen because of “white supremacy” right? And you’re all gloating over him?
@aureamartinez5705
@aureamartinez5705 21 күн бұрын
Thank you Ta-Nehisi Coates for using your voice and uplifting the Palestinian community. We need more conversations that come from the heart
@stevesmith4901
@stevesmith4901 Ай бұрын
Watched this after the CBS interview. The contrast is so stark. Jon Stewart is amazing at what he does. A lovely engaging interview. Just amazing.
@maisoonafaneh7831
@maisoonafaneh7831 Ай бұрын
CBS what a disgrace
@tekmepikcha6830
@tekmepikcha6830 Ай бұрын
Just amazing!
@lizabryant9431
@lizabryant9431 Ай бұрын
The CBS was so racists. CBS is the corporate media and who owns most corporate media 🤔🤔🤔😕😕😕😕😕🤔
@cameotaylor2446
@cameotaylor2446 Ай бұрын
I am doing the exact same thing right now
@cosmosaic8117
@cosmosaic8117 Ай бұрын
We Stand With Israel ❤
@jalensmall7008
@jalensmall7008 Ай бұрын
Incredible dialogue, glad I listened in. This is the best of KZbin.
@info_prodigiousley7534
@info_prodigiousley7534 Ай бұрын
🤔….please say that again! …with all the mess you can come across on here, then you click at something like this…🤔🙏🏽
@dustinbilson5472
@dustinbilson5472 Ай бұрын
This was a moving discussion. Wow..
@cosmosaic8117
@cosmosaic8117 Ай бұрын
Lol
@claire219
@claire219 Ай бұрын
Finally two sane people discussing race, conflict, trauma, war, nationalism. Excellent interview.
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
Sane bc Muslims aren’t involved? Black ppl will continue to mind their business about these violently predisposed Palestinians. The author doesn’t speak for Black ppl
@NoorKhan-gg2qf
@NoorKhan-gg2qf Ай бұрын
Thank you for speaking up for the oppressed people of Palestine
@jenimcleod1553
@jenimcleod1553 Ай бұрын
Dont take it personally.... it will not measure up to the burden of the Palestinians... Tears flowed. I got chills. How selfless and beautiful. This GUY!!! WOW. What a beautiful human. Thank you so much for this interview. ❤
@noa-wu9sn
@noa-wu9sn Ай бұрын
Calling this blunt antisemitism beautiful... you people are worst then the Nazis. Seriously.
@aliciaburbank9962
@aliciaburbank9962 Ай бұрын
Wasn't that an inspiring response?
@noa-wu9sn
@noa-wu9sn Ай бұрын
@@aliciaburbank9962 NO
@masmusica100
@masmusica100 Ай бұрын
Yes. We Must fight. Yes... Our historia from Auschwitz to the 7 of october told us that so many times. Am israel jai.
@NerdicusGoblinski
@NerdicusGoblinski Ай бұрын
​@@masmusica100 it didn't tell you to not do the things that the Nazis did to your people? Weird flex
@odossani
@odossani Ай бұрын
Loved what he said at the end. “It doesn’t compare…” I’m in tears
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
Why can’t your ppl write a book instead of killing ppl in October. Keep your emotions to yourself. Palestinians don’t care about Black ppl
@loumontesano595
@loumontesano595 Ай бұрын
Two amazing guys. The world is very lucky to have the both of them.
@semsemeini7905
@semsemeini7905 Ай бұрын
Hezz boom la, Khomeini, Humus are lucky to have these two on their side.
@cosmosaic8117
@cosmosaic8117 Ай бұрын
We Stand With Israel ❤
@Dr.Tongue-ih9md
@Dr.Tongue-ih9md Ай бұрын
@@cosmosaic8117 THANK YOU! People like Jon Stewart, who changed his last name from Leibowitz, are no example of what kind of lives J3wish people can live with dignity and without fear of displaying their heritage.
@jesusnebot
@jesusnebot Ай бұрын
The beauty of this interview is not so much that they can speak so eloquently and with so much humanity (and humor at times) about such challenging topic, but also that they are actually listening to one another. Their perspectives allow them to ponder and learn from each other instead of being stuck in heavily ideologized and polarizing talking points. We need more informative, independent journalism and more constructive conversations and debates in all our media outlets. Funny that we have to find this rare example in a comedy show. Well done
@BeanMacdui
@BeanMacdui Ай бұрын
I agree with what you say and it is refreshing.
@nicki66
@nicki66 Ай бұрын
Your oppression will not save you! Wow! This notion of humiliation is so true. Getting the book…right now!!!! Thank you Ta-Nehisi.
@ladydi876
@ladydi876 Ай бұрын
Ditto!
@stevesmith4901
@stevesmith4901 Ай бұрын
I didn't understand that part. What did he mean by "Your oppression will not save you." Save you from what?
@billydean4661
@billydean4661 Ай бұрын
​@@stevesmith4901He was saying just bc your people were oppressed that doesn't mean your morally vindicated from your crimes.
@fontomfrom
@fontomfrom Ай бұрын
Coates writes beautifully! It might even seem bleak and yet beautiful!
@mary-clarecarder3709
@mary-clarecarder3709 Ай бұрын
Oppression won't save you but healing from oppression will.
@DJSMASH797
@DJSMASH797 Ай бұрын
Now this is how to have an interview where interest in the WORK is explored. Rather than to attempt to pin someone down and thingify a person because his point of view differs from your own. CBS left a bitter taste in my mouth. I’m glad I found this interview.
@katrina8077
@katrina8077 Ай бұрын
yes!
@kenm4882
@kenm4882 Ай бұрын
CBS is an establishment CIA propaganda media outlet. All of corporate media is colonial imperialist empire propaganda media.
@birdiexnumnum
@birdiexnumnum Ай бұрын
CBS again proves itself as a relic of the past and mouthpiece for a dying empire. This is what a real, human discussion looks like. Kudos to Jon Stewart for respectfully allowing Ta-Nahesi Coates to speak. Can’t wait to read his book.
@terrellnash4648
@terrellnash4648 Ай бұрын
That one guy on CBS who obviously has racial bias.
@damnthisuser
@damnthisuser Ай бұрын
me too. the apology was worse from CBS! Completely unsatisfactory!
@kasondaleigh
@kasondaleigh Ай бұрын
“The humiliation of oppression “ is the perfect phrase for how I felt as a working class woman. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn’t get that foot off my neck to lift my head up. It is demoralizing, depressing and demeaning. Only now, living on SSDI in my little car, do I feel a dignity in my life, because I no longer have to dampen my spirit to appease others in order to survive. Basic universal income would be beneficial for everyone’s mental health and allow ALL people to live a dignified life.
@OK-gk1rp
@OK-gk1rp Ай бұрын
Between automation and AI it's inevitable. The problem is they will give just enough to survive.
@MichaelEllegard-dz1yd
@MichaelEllegard-dz1yd Ай бұрын
Who's foot was on your neck?
@David-iv6je
@David-iv6je Ай бұрын
@@MichaelEllegard-dz1yd a) *whose. b) if you have to ask....
@foofkanon
@foofkanon Ай бұрын
Yet billionaires have the nerve to lecture us.
@Borodin410
@Borodin410 Ай бұрын
Writing doesn't do anything.
@timshannonnd1054
@timshannonnd1054 Ай бұрын
I hear this and it simply underlines how thirsty I've become for integrity. The simple process of people taking the time to hear each other in an exchange. Two people working to delve into complex human issues with integrity. Lovely and inspiring.
@garnettejones6775
@garnettejones6775 27 күн бұрын
YES this is so refreshing!!
@isaiahendesia6598
@isaiahendesia6598 Ай бұрын
"What matters is who has the guns and who doesn't" Boy that hit hard
@erwinl.8152
@erwinl.8152 Ай бұрын
When one side can have guns and not use them while the other side can’t be trusted with them due to being terrorists at every single opportunity for 50+ years, that’s reality.
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
No it doesn’t. Palestinians fight w rocks and bombs and guns. Tell them to stop fighting so they can have peace. This author doesn’t speak for the Black community and needs to mind his atheist business or write about Sudan. Palestinians don’t care about Black ppl.
@brentwiley3426
@brentwiley3426 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, one of the philosophical outcomes to those who are oppressed. Largely not the leaning of AAs, but the fictional Kilmonger comes to mind when I think of how ‘might makes right’ can be dangerous.
@luisnieves8242
@luisnieves8242 Ай бұрын
heard that 50 years ago.
@al-Huwariyun
@al-Huwariyun Ай бұрын
@@brentwiley3426Well.
@kerrialexander4211
@kerrialexander4211 Ай бұрын
‘Never Again’ for anyone…we all should be there already. Great interview!
@DavidLebs
@DavidLebs Ай бұрын
I think the lessons learned are more complex for Jewish descendants of Holocaust survivors, which Jon Stewart isn't. There is both a personal and a universal interpretation of "Never again", and both have validity. When your own family lived through it (and ancestors died from it), the less universalistic meaning has more resonance. A lot of Jews learned the lesson that we will never be safe unless we control our own destiny, and that isn't possible in today's world without a state and a powerful military of our own. I don't understand why that lesson is so difficult for people to understand. I think it is important to take away the universal message of "Never again" as well, but both are very valid perspectives that are born out of historical experience.
@nazeemkadir1257
@nazeemkadir1257 Ай бұрын
​@@DavidLebsI'm curious to know sir why do you think it's important to take away the universal interpretation version?
@DavidLebs
@DavidLebs Ай бұрын
​@nazeemkadir1257 I don't at all. I think it is important that "Never again" have two meanings: one particular to Jews and one universal. Jews have very specific lessons take from the Holocaust, foremost that we can never again be reliant on anyone but ourselves to guarantee our own protection, which requires having our own state and a very strong army, regardless of what anyone else in the world thinks about it. The universal interpretation is that there is an international duty to prevent attempts to exterminate entire peoples. The world failed in that in Rwanda. I don't interpret "Never again" in the universal sense as being broad enough to require international intervention in other situations. But that's open to debate. As bad as wars and systems of oppression are in general, I don't see any situation rivaling the Holocaust (where the universal interpretation of Never again would apply) since other than Rwanda, and sadly the world did nothing there.
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
@@DavidLebscorrect. And Sudan. This Black atheist does not represent Black ppl and he has chosen to also stay silent on geno* in Sudan. Palestinians don’t care about Black ppl and celebrate violence, Black ppl never celebrated the harm of ppl in the US during Jim Crow. This is so ridiculous.
@SableWind
@SableWind 22 күн бұрын
​@@DavidLebs Gabor Mate and Norm Finkelstein are holocaust surviving jews who would strongly disagree with this assessment. "Never Again" being bastardized to mean "never again - even if it means putting other people through the same trauma we experienced" is horrific and should not be justified.
@phattjoe99
@phattjoe99 Ай бұрын
2 smart people discussing a difficult topic. I love it. More please.
@Ahtaht227
@Ahtaht227 Ай бұрын
Please
@klajdipapa6110
@klajdipapa6110 Ай бұрын
Ok. But there's nothing difficult about this topic.
@anntaylor1632
@anntaylor1632 Ай бұрын
Sorely needed.💔
@theswiftschoolofselfhealing
@theswiftschoolofselfhealing Ай бұрын
much, much more. It is so necessary that we communicate with depth of feeling in our overly oversexualized world of superficial aggrandizement. We need REAL...superficiality destroys the human spirit.
@77Creation
@77Creation Ай бұрын
It's only difficult if you're invested in Zionism. For everyone else he answer is simple...Free Palestine. End the occupation. Return to pre 1967 borders. Two State Solution.
@citizen_morgan7444
@citizen_morgan7444 Ай бұрын
Jon Stewart be making you think with just a bit of HUMOR. THANKS, Jon! 🤩🤩🤩
@segun3714
@segun3714 Ай бұрын
Wow. Almost got emotional listening to these humanitarians. This is what is called a discourse.
@paraiclally2310
@paraiclally2310 Ай бұрын
Not really....talking about it and acting on it are different
@theprimo100
@theprimo100 Ай бұрын
@@paraiclally2310 Words are their job, the actions are the politicians jobs.
@cosmosaic8117
@cosmosaic8117 Ай бұрын
We Stand With Israel ❤
@theprimo100
@theprimo100 Ай бұрын
@@cosmosaic8117 Every Human Rights organization stands with Palestine 🍉
@cosmosaic8117
@cosmosaic8117 Ай бұрын
@@theprimo100 We Stand With Israel ❤️
@antwinehurst9546
@antwinehurst9546 Ай бұрын
This is how you have a intelligent conversation. Not about right or wrong but simply sharing perspective
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
Rational ppl know how to have a conversation. It’s the Palestinians that go ape crazy like last October and can’t act civilized. This Black author does not speak for Black ppl, who know that Palestinians don’t care about them. Look at the Sudan.
@amnaiqbal242
@amnaiqbal242 Ай бұрын
I wish this was longer conversation ❤
@josephinethornton3823
@josephinethornton3823 Ай бұрын
Right? I could happily watch an hour sit down conversation between the two men.
@erinmac4750
@erinmac4750 Ай бұрын
Truth! 💜✊
@erickhart8046
@erickhart8046 Ай бұрын
Yea I hope he pops up on John's podcast.
@amnaiqbal242
@amnaiqbal242 Ай бұрын
@@josephinethornton3823 exactly! I really really felt something crucial needs to be explored - the shame and memory of oppression. It will honestly be a revelation to understand this, given that people are able to then turn it into such immense acts of kindness. The two men above, for example.
@amnaiqbal242
@amnaiqbal242 Ай бұрын
@@erickhart8046 right? And it's so incredibly authentic. Bravo
@ChristopherLattyHall
@ChristopherLattyHall Ай бұрын
Jon Stewart never disappoints when it comes to his ability to curate humor and information in a palatable way for any curious mind… this was refreshing to watch.
@howardlenow
@howardlenow Ай бұрын
Thank you for presenting this amazing man and for recognizing the trauma of Palestinians. As an American Jew, I believe that Ta Nishi Coates can reach audiences because of his sincerity, honesty and integrity.
@nazeemkadir1257
@nazeemkadir1257 Ай бұрын
For you to say this sir shows the love and discernment that guides you. May we all learn to be like you ❤️
@joanneborzotra8368
@joanneborzotra8368 Ай бұрын
JUST AS I BOUGHT AND READ "THE GENERALS' SON I WILL ALSO BUY THIS BOOK BECAUSE AS A CITIZEN OF THE USA THE MAIN $ ALLY I MUST SEE HOW IT MUST FEEL TO BE A MINORITY WITH LIMITED FREEDOM AND LIVE IN FEAR AS WELL, ESPECIALLY SINCE EASTERN NEWS MEDIA ARE BANNED IN REPORTING OF Israel
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
Taneisha didn’t speak for the Black community, who struggled not because they were violent and celebrated violence but bc of skin color and hate. He is also so silent on Sudan which is happening as he runs his mouth about Muslim ppl who hate Black ppl.
@Lynn-i2w
@Lynn-i2w Ай бұрын
There are many like him who have spoken up but have been ignored. Thank you to all who have tried.
@kellifrancis9364
@kellifrancis9364 Ай бұрын
@@Musicalnotes9678 Insulting the man will not advance your cause nor attract people to it.
@kidmohair8151
@kidmohair8151 Ай бұрын
wow. now. that is a conversation. between two people who have taken the time to try to come to grips with the human condition, within themselves and in the wider human world. grappling indeed. i wish to thank Mr Coates and Mr Stewart for allowing us to sit in on it.
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
Too bad Palestinians who hate Black ppl, can’t use their words but always throw rockets. Black ppl do not support an author who stays silent about Sudan but runs his mouth about the Palestinians who don’t care about Black ppl. He’s and atheist, someone the Bible calls a fool.
@virginiamiller4890
@virginiamiller4890 Ай бұрын
I love Ta-Nehisi Coates's mind everytime I get the chance to listen to him!
@millrace32
@millrace32 Ай бұрын
"you go through a horrific experience ... the holocaust … you [may] conclude that … what matters is who has the guns & who doesn't. i stand opposed to that, just on principle, period" at this point, i think he's either an anti-semite, or trying to act as some kind of bridge to those who believe that opposing white supremacy somehow legitimates anti-semitism
@monicabeaston4996
@monicabeaston4996 Ай бұрын
​@@millrace32I think you missed his point. It's an old story. The persecuted decide the only way to escape violence in the future is to embrace violence as an option and to have the means to persecute others. My Dad explained a long time ago to me how this applied to the Puritans- fleeing British oppression they arrived in the New World and ultimately used violence to subjugate the indigenous. It isn't anti- Semitic to believe a Jewish community is no exception to this rule.
@kalabangle6450
@kalabangle6450 Ай бұрын
@@monicabeaston4996interesting thanks for sharing.
@millrace32
@millrace32 Ай бұрын
@@monicabeaston4996 i understand your story & your point, but he said what he said, which was different. &, if you dig a bit deeper, it's pretty clear coates has an embarrassingly bad take on the conflict
@nancya7289
@nancya7289 Ай бұрын
@@millrace32 I was pretty frustrated by the way these two framed discussion of the Middle Eastern conflict. Just to give one extremely trivial example: John mentions in passing that a Palestinian wasn't allowed to speak at the DNC. I find this sort of comment absurd. On a practical level it would be disastrous to have had heard from the Palestinian voice because at this time Democrats need to unify against Trump. We need to get out of what Michelle Obama brilliantly called the Goldilocks syndrome. That speaker would have risked jeopardizing the momentum of the positivity generated by the convention. Coates may assert that we must not be trapped by our history. I say: Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it. Finally, you know who's the most effective at suppressing Palestinian voices? Not the US, not the news, not Israel. That's right: Hamas. Palestinians who try to support Israel do so at risk of death. Say what you will about media bias in the West. The nightly news isn't sending people to Gaza to drag bodies through the streets to terrify citizens into compliance.
@KatVB462
@KatVB462 Ай бұрын
Great interview. The first time I was made aware of the Palestinian situation was many years ago when Alice Walker tried to take supplies to Gaza and Israel wouldn't allow her group (feminist women) into Gaza. They were denied entry. It opened my eyes to how awful their lives were due to the policies of the Israeli govt.
@diamondmx3076
@diamondmx3076 Ай бұрын
This is such a stark difference to the open hostility in the CBS interview. Jon, as always, is thoughtful and compassionate. And that's what we could use a little more of in discussions of the Israel/Palestine conflict. Well, that and to stop sending them bombs to do warcrimes with.
Ай бұрын
What an amazing discussion. Can you imagine if all talk shows and news interviews had this kind of dialogue and expansion of ideas? TDS and Stewart continues to be an oasis in a desert of media irresponsibility, fecklessness, and malfeasance.
@kikigirlkauai
@kikigirlkauai Ай бұрын
💙
@jason3898
@jason3898 Ай бұрын
💙
@leodavis2076
@leodavis2076 Ай бұрын
If all news coverage were as educational and informative as this, today's Trump cult Republican party couldn't & wouldn't exist
@greywolf845
@greywolf845 Ай бұрын
💙
@dirkfabian5719
@dirkfabian5719 Ай бұрын
The question of “has there ever been a better way of organizing than the nation-state?” is treated extensively in a book called the “Dawn of Everything” by David Graeber & David Wengrow. It looks at the historic evidence for other, more egalitarian and peaceful systems of human organization than what we have now. Native American political systems, Gobekli Tepe in Turkey, Mayans, Minoans, and many others are discussed in terms of agrarian development, socio-political organization, and slavery. It turned a number of assumptions about the inevitability of top down rule on their head for me. Highly recommended and a worthy follow up to this conversation between Coates and Stewart.
@fontomfrom
@fontomfrom Ай бұрын
Interesting
@Kobe29261
@Kobe29261 Ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic material; its hefty so if you can find the audio-book life would be easier but loved it so much I went out and got a copy! Graeber will remain an incalculable treasure!
@LLpeacenluv
@LLpeacenluv Ай бұрын
Ooh! this book looks like it’s right up my alley - thanks for the heads up
@tonapittman
@tonapittman Ай бұрын
I absolutely love this book! Jon & Coates here are talking as if cycles of violence are an inevitable human folly, but such large scale conflicts are actually very modern.
@blairdowis491
@blairdowis491 Ай бұрын
@@tonapittman imo the cycles are violence tend to be linked to capitalism... wars over land/resources
@jennifershriver7071
@jennifershriver7071 26 күн бұрын
"Never again for anyone." Exactly. That is our calling. and to keep our hearts wide open, and to let our hearts break open over and over, to our own humanity -- precious and fragile -- and to the world.
@kneeker
@kneeker Ай бұрын
This is the most earnest, interesting, and best political conversation I may have ever seen. These two are among my very favorites and I'm grateful that this conversation happened. I hope a lot of people watch and really digest it.
@iangillis2230
@iangillis2230 Ай бұрын
Jon has the background and the brains to bring out some great thoughts in a high level discussion such as this.
@NeilShuklaMadMonocle
@NeilShuklaMadMonocle Ай бұрын
This is an incredible conversation. There's a level of introspection and emotional analysis that I honestly haven't seen discussed in a television interview on these issues, the kind where you walk away with a deeper understanding. These are two important voices in the world.
@gausselim1474
@gausselim1474 Ай бұрын
"Do we have anybody Palestinian that we have invited to the table?"... Great point!!!!
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
Ask them to invite themselves when they stop leading w violence. Tell them to use their words.
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
They are too violent to use their words.
@Nishful5
@Nishful5 Ай бұрын
@@Musicalnotes9678 or maybe you are too violent to hear what they have to say.
@Nishful5
@Nishful5 Ай бұрын
@@Musicalnotes9678 BTW, the same was/is said about the Blacks, Irish and even the Jues. People forget that the Z10nist groups Irgun and Haganah were recognized as t3rrorist groups by Western powers in the 1940’s until the establishment of Izrayl in 1948. After 1948, they became part of the military and intelligence of Izrayl, some became its prime ministers.
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
@@Nishful5 North Africa was more intelligent when the Arabs descended on their land. They didn’t fight for decades. So that their ppl could live.
@Pragmatist1st
@Pragmatist1st Ай бұрын
Open-minded, non-biased conversation with no agenda, just wanting to find truth and righteousness is what is missing in the world.
@noa-wu9sn
@noa-wu9sn Ай бұрын
Seriously? you call that nonbiased , no agenda? Truthful and righteousness? I hope you are being sinical .
@nickf2657
@nickf2657 Ай бұрын
​@noa-wu9sn I'm convinced most of these people are bots...or simply brainwashed.
@KarlHerzog
@KarlHerzog Ай бұрын
​@@noa-wu9sn keep talking gibberish, are you of the chosen race? 😂
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
Too bad Palestinians who hate Black ppl, can’t use their words but always throw rockets. Black ppl do not support an author who stays silent about Sudan but runs his mouth about the Palestinians who don’t care about Black ppl. He’s an atheist, someone the Bible calls a fool.
@stms4411
@stms4411 Ай бұрын
It’s always interesting to see JS interview any guest…..but when he particularly respects a guest….his dynamic contribution to the interview is next level.
@firefx99
@firefx99 Ай бұрын
That WAS next level!!!! This discussion really NEEDS to be had right now. Open minds...real talk. I'm so moved
@bullpaxton2001
@bullpaxton2001 Ай бұрын
The way Ta-Nehisi Coates connects ideas and distills their qualities is so brilliant. Love listening to him speak.
@craftychinurse5240
@craftychinurse5240 Ай бұрын
Reading his work has the same affect.
@owaisahmad8344
@owaisahmad8344 4 күн бұрын
Really appreciate that Jon Stewart had such a conllex conversation with the depth of consideration the guest deserved. At the end though I was getting the sense that Jon was trying to insinuate that this issue of Palestine that Ta Nehisi had decided to try and tackle was so super complex and that 10,000 years of conflict was going to be difficult to resolve. I think that does a disservice to the issue that Ta Nehisi was tackling, because when you see a genocide taking place, it's not complex. There is a party perpetrating it, and there is a victim, and the perpetrator needs to be stopped. In the vein of Jon and Ta Nehisi's discussion, their victimhood doesn't give some kind of moral superiority to Palestinians, but it does put a moral wound on the Israeli colonialist project. The complexity of the last 10,000 years of Jewish history & conflict doesn't really come into play when a nation state is committing genocide in their name.
@katec8796
@katec8796 Ай бұрын
One of the most beautiful conversations between two of our most intelligent, empathetic citizens. I could watch those two talk all day.
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
@@katec8796 as long as Palestinians are not included; and these two groups have always gotten along. It’s the Palestinians who have a problem w them
@novabonk
@novabonk Ай бұрын
So refreshing to see this after CBS this morning’s baloney
@gr8dvd
@gr8dvd Ай бұрын
Baloney? Hardly, just too time-limited to do justice to this age-old, complicated subject.
@DRAMATICLEGS
@DRAMATICLEGS Ай бұрын
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@the1nstitute
@the1nstitute Ай бұрын
When you want thoughtful, in depth consideration of complex issues, you can't rely on the big networks to deliver, but somehow, here on basic cable, a comedian is getting it done. Thank you Jon and TDS. We would already be living in the post apocalypse if not for you. Because of you, we get to put that off for a few years at least.
@RandyMoonihoawa
@RandyMoonihoawa Ай бұрын
​@gr8dvd one of the CBS hosts literally implied Coates' beliefs are that of a radical islamist terrorist, and that he doesn't believe Israel should exist because he accurately points out Israel's treatment of the Palestinians
@JRZTXN
@JRZTXN Ай бұрын
@@gr8dvdthat’s the bologna part.
@mjkaswan
@mjkaswan Ай бұрын
What a beautiful conversation. Thank you, Jon and Ta-Nehisi.
@brooks9978
@brooks9978 Ай бұрын
Love this man, Ta-Nehisi Coates. Very smart, logical thinker
@Facts-Over-Feelings
@Facts-Over-Feelings Ай бұрын
ALL BLACK PEOPLE WHO DESCEND FROM BIBLICAL CHATTEL SLAVERY ARE 90% HEBREWS. A DIRECT BLOOD DESCENDANT. THE CURSE OF HAM STORY WAS CREATED TO HIDE THIS TRUTH. PERIOD.
@cloudbullets
@cloudbullets Ай бұрын
Ta-Nehisi Coates’ writing can move mountains. If you’ve never read Between The World and Me, you owe it to yourself to do so.
@ernestdoyle6937
@ernestdoyle6937 Ай бұрын
Moved mountains of cash into his bank account. Wonder how much he donates to terrorists.
@Ahtaht227
@Ahtaht227 Ай бұрын
Absolutely
@Solus3D
@Solus3D Ай бұрын
@@ernestdoyle6937 how much paid to you AIPAC?
@rashad8428
@rashad8428 Ай бұрын
The book is life changing
@justthinkin5956
@justthinkin5956 Ай бұрын
Coates is exceptionally insightful, well-thought and articulate. I wish I could take one of his courses at Howard.
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
Well thought enough to speak for his ppl in Sudan? No. He doesn’t speak for the Black community. Insight is realizing that the Jewish community has been a friend to Black ppl and the violent religion in the Middle East is the reason the Palestinians stay at war. You can articulate the humanity of what they did last October bc of some broken mosq windows. Absolutely vile!
@laurasabransky9450
@laurasabransky9450 Ай бұрын
Amazing interview! I am still teary-eyed about the discussion about humiliation. That resonates so much with me re: ancestral trauma and rejection. I am so looking forward to seeing Ta-Nehisi Coates at the Humanities Festival in Chicago in 2 weeks!
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
@@laurasabransky9450 he doesn’t speak for black ppl. He speaks for the violent Palestinians. What do you have to do w why they are at war since October?
@aroom101
@aroom101 21 күн бұрын
Fair play & respect as ever to Jon Stewart regarding the calibre of guests he invites on & level of discourse he tries to foster especially on certain emotive issues. Even-handed with a strong moral compass. Strives to have understanding and empathy for the lived experiences of both Palestinians and Israeli Jews.
@njl8908
@njl8908 Ай бұрын
Just ordered this book from my local bookstore (always support local independent book sellers when you can) and it is SOLD OUT - the message is being delivered. People are reading. People are learning. Thoughts will change.
@damnthisuser
@damnthisuser Ай бұрын
I almost bought on Amazon, until I saw this. Thanks!
@luisnieves8242
@luisnieves8242 Ай бұрын
wow, all of a sudden people are reading!!
@ericmoore8081
@ericmoore8081 Ай бұрын
Normal conversation. Mutual respect. Elevated perspectives. Progression of humanity.
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
Black ppl and Jewish ppl have always gotten along, look at the author trying to burn bridges though. Too bad Palestinians who hate Black ppl, can’t use their words in normal conversation but always throw rockets. Black ppl do not support an author who stays silent about Sudan but runs his mouth about the Palestinians who don’t care about Black ppl. He’s and atheist, someone the Bible calls a fool.
@ericgen5022
@ericgen5022 Ай бұрын
Wow! This isn’t a segment about a guy promoting his book. It’s a conversation about REAL issues between two very intelligent people who represent two different groups. EXCELLENT. I was mesmerized. SO refreshing. But sadly this falls into such a minority of “news” coverage. Why don’t we demand MORE like this?!
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
These two groups have always gotten along. That’s why he doesn’t speak for Black ppl. Who know to mind their business regarding Palestinians, who hate Black ppl and their neighbors in gazaaa
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
So maybe Palestinians and their religion is the problem
@damnthisuser
@damnthisuser Ай бұрын
Because we dont want more. This isnt news this is a discussion but when actual news was a lost leader we had real journalist and reporters who sought the truth because the public demanded it. Now we seek confirmation for our darkest impulses...Trump lies,flip flops, shills, extorts and scapegoats, yet Kamala has to measure every word.
@sweetpeasbackyardgarden1236
@sweetpeasbackyardgarden1236 16 күн бұрын
This was a really thoughtful discussion. Refreshing when the interviewer actually reads the book.
@LizRChristiano
@LizRChristiano Ай бұрын
Great conversation! Can’t wait to read the book. One thing they seem to miss together is Indigenous knowledge. You don’t find zero-sum in Earth-based societies. When people say “land back” and let Indigenous folks lead, this is part of why. Otherwise we keep replicating trauma culture. Zero-sum is a trauma problem. How do we fix everything? Elevate, respect, honor Indigenous wisdom and throw the rest out. I know in my bones that it doesn’t need to be this way.
@FairyBogFather
@FairyBogFather Ай бұрын
well-said!
@jasonjones544
@jasonjones544 Ай бұрын
What a powerful conversation. Thank you Stewart & Coates!
@nsn5564
@nsn5564 Ай бұрын
It was Jane Elliot's exercise in racism studies - blue eyed children and brown eyed children were treated differently; and taught people what racism is like. Jane Elliot is a national treasure and deserves the highest civilian US awards for service to the country - she's exposed and explained so much about the US and racism and right wing extremism and the fear of becoming a white minority. Please watch her videos!
@alistairjohnson6061
@alistairjohnson6061 Ай бұрын
In 2011 I sent Ms Elliott my 3 minute film Polar Reversal. This was her generous reply which she has kindly allowed me to use as an endorsement: Dear Alistair, Subtle, it's not, but thought-provoking, it is! I suspect that the reason people protest the darkness of the second child is our determination not to see dark skin in a positive light! If you'd only made her a little dark with some curly hair, your white audiences might be able to accept her blackness as ever being positive. Some of the citizens of this country are having a terrible time accepting President Obama's skin color. Imagine their anger if his skin were any darker! I also suspect that they have trouble imagining a scenario in which someone would want NOT to be WHITE! Unthinkable! Man, this is going to make peoples' head spin, as they try to reverse the images and their concepts of race and its implications! Thank you for doing this! After people look at this, the Eye-Color exercise is going to seem tame! Not non-threatening, mind you, but tame. Jane Elliott As you can imagine I am very proud of this.
@nsn5564
@nsn5564 Ай бұрын
@@alistairjohnson6061 Thanks for sharing! Wow!
@michellemaine2719
@michellemaine2719 Ай бұрын
Where could I see the film?​@@alistairjohnson6061
@adriennereed2202
@adriennereed2202 Ай бұрын
Her experiment and work changed my life
@alistairjohnson6061
@alistairjohnson6061 Ай бұрын
@@nsn5564 Thanks:)
@marcusflowers9218
@marcusflowers9218 Ай бұрын
What do you expect from an African American who witnessed this kind of discrimination????? Do you actually think we can turn a blind eye to something that was done to us?? We cannot!!! Bravo Mr. Coates!!
@joekelly7505
@joekelly7505 Ай бұрын
Ta-Nehisi is articulate and compassionate. Just ❤
@someone-w9n
@someone-w9n Ай бұрын
This is such a great conversation. Should have lasted for 4 hours! Its amazing, that these two, a black American and a Jewish American, talk about Palastinains as humans more than any other media did!
@nabilinho8936
@nabilinho8936 Ай бұрын
It's because Jon Stewart understand the complexity of the problem that there is no way out if the situation stay the same.
@ChlorineInMySoup
@ChlorineInMySoup Ай бұрын
@@nabilinho8936 It's not that complex of an issue if you read about pre-Mandate, pre-Holocaust migration to Israel.
@aishaladha402
@aishaladha402 Ай бұрын
Especially compared to the spineless arabs leaders who wont say a peep
@Sarbet888
@Sarbet888 Ай бұрын
@@aishaladha402 The Arab world's corrupt leaders' silence shows who they are; they use the Palestine cause only when it fits their interest.
@alicequayle4625
@alicequayle4625 Ай бұрын
Would be great to hear a Palestinian on.
@katierose7539
@katierose7539 Ай бұрын
As a child protection social worker for 40 years, my colleagues would discuss how sustained trauma seemed to alter DNA within a family system. Extended periods of trauma seemed to become part of the multi-generational experience. Within the past few years it has been determined that the changes in DNA due to extended trauma are indeed passed down through the generations.
@21972012145525
@21972012145525 Ай бұрын
It's called epigenetics
@ajwalker4416
@ajwalker4416 Ай бұрын
There is a great deal of research being done on epigenetics. Even Neil De Grasse Tyson had a segment on his Star Talk program recently.
@alro11
@alro11 Ай бұрын
exactly - listen to Dr Gabor Mate
@jojorockzzz1211
@jojorockzzz1211 Ай бұрын
@@21972012145525 it is just theorised, there is no proof of it actually occuring, just theories. And i dont think epigenetics work like that, silencing parts of dna with some changes in folding of dna from trauma or some proteins produced from truama covering parts of dna . Not possible according to me. But again, we see some of the most unexplainable things happen in medicine which over gets solved
@malaikamckee-culpepper261
@malaikamckee-culpepper261 Ай бұрын
The epigenetic influence of trauma involves changes in gene expression caused by traumatic experiences, without altering the DNA sequence itself. These changes can be passed down to future generations, affecting their mental and physical health. Trauma-induced epigenetic modifications, such as DNA methylation, can impact stress response genes, leading to conditions like PTSD, depression, and anxiety12. Research shows that trauma can alter genes involved in the stress response, such as NR3C1 and FKBP5, potentially influencing brain development and function34. These findings suggest that trauma's effects can persist across generations through epigenetic mechanisms5. From AI genrated response.
@MaryN-k8o
@MaryN-k8o Ай бұрын
This is what being human is, calling out injustice even if it means they will try to destroy you for speaking up for the truth. It takes one human at a time to bring awareness and stop oppression of any type. Thank you for your bravery.
@LoLo1k2k3k
@LoLo1k2k3k Ай бұрын
Black Americans NEED to hear that part about “knowing how this happens”. Because authoritarianism and ethnostates are NEVER the answer to oppressions or histories of oppression.
@Speedkid
@Speedkid Ай бұрын
We NEED to be left alone. But that is not going to happen.
@kimiya777
@kimiya777 Ай бұрын
@@SpeedkidThis is an unfortunate truth. I think about this every time someone says all we need to do is start our own this or create our own that as if we haven’t tried that a thousand times before. Coates’ mention of Liberia is a perfect example. We have to figure out how to beat the system that we’re in because there’s no way out.
@ZetaMoolah
@ZetaMoolah Ай бұрын
@@kimiya777 as the kid of African immigrants, with all the love in my heart, I say black folks are too nice. When my ethnic group was being pogromed we shot back at everyone and tore the country apart. Right or wrong, the language of power is universal.
@LoLo1k2k3k
@LoLo1k2k3k Ай бұрын
@@Speedkid yeah Jewish people literally created Israel because of the exact same reactionary rhetoric and sentiments. Black nationalism and black ethnostates will not save us. Separatism will not liberate us.
@LoLo1k2k3k
@LoLo1k2k3k Ай бұрын
@@Speedkid which is why this amazing author said he completely understands why/how we got Israel. He sees what many other revolutionary black artists and activists have seen for centuries. The solution to our oppression and the path to our liberation will NOT be to listen to and agree with the racists and separate ourselves from them.
@thenexthobby
@thenexthobby Ай бұрын
This episode is a great example of why this is the best show on TV, at least on Mondays. And the book sounds great too.
@gloriaf6971
@gloriaf6971 Ай бұрын
I can't wait to get my hands on that book.
@cosmlayla
@cosmlayla Ай бұрын
Amazing discussion! I wish we talked about these things more often. Thank you.
@ramseyphdone6926
@ramseyphdone6926 Ай бұрын
All it takes is a conversation...Sometimes the conversation is painful and complex, but having the conversation is the first step. Listening is a skill that is lost in the world today.
@locsrulewomen
@locsrulewomen Ай бұрын
Coats is so correct about the unspoken humiliation felt in our community 💔😢
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
Speak for yourself. He doesn’t speak for Black ppl he speaks for Palestinians who celebrate violence.
@Hr-dy1xv
@Hr-dy1xv 26 күн бұрын
Shutup lol
@MrEtay78
@MrEtay78 Ай бұрын
Steward and Coates, 2 inspirational human being, bless up!
@malaikamckee-culpepper261
@malaikamckee-culpepper261 Ай бұрын
What an example of night and day. John Stewart once again shows how to do an interview on topics that are emotionally difficult to navigate. Hey CBS, take a lesson from this conversation. These two thoughtful people were able to dialog and navigate deep ethical waters and leave the viewers a real sense of intellectual sharing.
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
@@malaikamckee-culpepper261 Jewish ppl and Black ppl have always gotten along. It’s Palestinians who have a problem w them both and are the reason for their own “struggle”
@jennifershriver7071
@jennifershriver7071 26 күн бұрын
T-Nehisi, your writing does save peoples' lives. It matters so much. Thank you.
@saxamachick
@saxamachick Ай бұрын
I read "Between the World and Me" recently, and absolutely loved Ta-Nehisi's storytelling and perspectives. I am going to have to give this one a read as well!
@FortheLoveofMonsters
@FortheLoveofMonsters Ай бұрын
Ta-Nehisi is one of the smartest people to walk on dry land. I can’t believe we live in a world where people call Jordan Peterson geniuses when Ta-Nehisi is still walking around!! This conversation should have been 2 more hours long!!
@millrace32
@millrace32 Ай бұрын
he seems pretty smart, but that raises the question, how come he has such a terrible take on israel / palestine?
@jedinxf7
@jedinxf7 Ай бұрын
​@@millrace32because he is incapable of viewing that or any conflict through a lens other than darker skinned oppressed and lighter skinned oppressor, even when it isn't even superficially accurate as a descriptor of skin tone let alone substantive reality.
@jedinxf7
@jedinxf7 Ай бұрын
​@Podcasts-ej4lswatch the video?
@SL-ws6gg
@SL-ws6gg Ай бұрын
@@jedinxf7no. He is talking about actual oppression of an entire people.
@Zaid_o
@Zaid_o Ай бұрын
@Podcasts-ej4ls He doesnt agree with my views so he's wrong /s
@elynbus
@elynbus Ай бұрын
Thank you, Jon Stewart and author Ta-Nehisi Coates
@barbaranavin2738
@barbaranavin2738 Ай бұрын
Oh it matters, Ta-Nehesi, it matters. Reading The Case for Reparations started me on a course of reading that changed my life - and I like to think - the thinking of those I talk with.
@donnastohr
@donnastohr Ай бұрын
Jon, you saved my sanity as you clowned through the Bush years. Yet, I am finding your serious discussions even more valuable and soul satisfying. thank you.
@mss627
@mss627 Ай бұрын
Wow! I'm actually speechless. We need to have more conversations like this.
@veritasca24
@veritasca24 Ай бұрын
Such a deep conversation, I sense the desire to get in touch with our pure essence which unites us as human beings. How did we lose that unity, that shared pure essence that has no differences in boundaries, skin color, etc.
@victorpradha9946
@victorpradha9946 Ай бұрын
"Your oppression will NOT save you" is indeed a powerful message to the oppressors. Is it not true that the humiliation of the Germans post WW1 was in large part what fueled what came to be in 1930s and early 1940s Germany. I think humanity is trapped in a cycle of fear, anger, violence that degrade and humiliates the targets of the fear, anger, hate and resultant violence. There is the thread of retribution that is present in the Middle East and is there between the Hindus and Muslims in India too (and in the United States). A thread that is so tempting to pull but once we start, it begins to unravel all that we have built together.
@yrspider
@yrspider Ай бұрын
Thank you so much Coates for being a human being. I think he's doing a great job bringing pure humanity into the conversation. However, we need more Palestinian voices in mainstream media. Interview the people living in Palestine directly.
@Musicalnotes9678
@Musicalnotes9678 Ай бұрын
Tell them to use their voices instead of committing or supporting violence. Black ppl and Palestinians are not friends and this author doesn’t speak for his community.
@omerhingora
@omerhingora Ай бұрын
A breath of fresh air. Thank you for being two titans of patience and understanding, and working so hard to guide us through this darkness.
@kathleencarr814
@kathleencarr814 Ай бұрын
Just love Ta-Nahesi! ❤ He writes in a way that I can understand. Yeah, very nice of John to let him speak. I watched the way he was treated on CBS and I was stunned by the way they shut him down! A Professor like him! Wow. But John knows how to conduct a real conversation & treat his guests with respect.
@DeremiahDerrick
@DeremiahDerrick Ай бұрын
I'm here from the CBS interview. What am enlightened dude. Ordered the book, can't wait to read it
@andrefjbernardo
@andrefjbernardo Ай бұрын
I love this guest. He is articulate, very intelligent. Not that I get his message, I'm curious about his writing. And this is why we needed Jon Stewart back.
@tphilli469
@tphilli469 Ай бұрын
This back and forth is incredible. This might be the best interview I've ever seen on the daily show. Thank you for having this dialog.
@gelgiz5039
@gelgiz5039 Ай бұрын
What an interview! This is a great example of two intellectuals having a meaningful conversation, trying to make sense of this complicated world. I wish Tony DiCaro and others who criticize Ta-Nehisi Coates would watch this-they might learn something from Jon Stewart. Jon has always been a class act, and thank you to Ta-Nehisi Coates for your bravery.
@ShaolinPauly
@ShaolinPauly Ай бұрын
Even with Stewart there’s a shadow of something that sounds like slightly excusing or brushes over Israel’s actions. But he’s still infinitely more open and honest and intelligent than almost every other TV personality and it’s really refreshing
@LalaJara-s4k
@LalaJara-s4k Ай бұрын
I totally agree. He also sometimes plays the ‘both sides’ suffering game as if there’s an equivalence!
@svscared
@svscared Ай бұрын
​@@LalaJara-s4kThere absolutely has been suffering from tons of people on both sides of the conflict throughout time so there indeed is an equivalence.
@samanthasery7302
@samanthasery7302 Ай бұрын
I agree he was even almost desperately talking over the clapping when a point was made about Palestine
@claytonmorada
@claytonmorada Ай бұрын
It's hard as an American to understand that you are supporting modern day Apartaid. To think that you don't want another Holocaust but you don't want Apartaid. It's always the innocent and the masses that suffer the most. It's just hard. That's what I see. The desperation for solutions.
@Slowjo1221
@Slowjo1221 Ай бұрын
Spot on! I had the same observation.
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