Tacoma SumoSprings Installation and Results

[@tayninh69]

I installed a set of these on my 2018 Winnebago Travato a few days ago and I'm blown away. I figured there would be some improvement, but these things made the rig a whole new vehicle. I am impressed, job well done SuperSprings. I have ordered a set for the front end.

[@simonasodano2776]

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[@bobbygfl]

Thanks

[@chrisb9478]

Sumo springs are great 👍🏻 I have a 21 Tacoma Trd OR, but rarely haul anything, so I installed the blue ones. Easy install, less lean in turns & big bumps are much more controlled.

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks for the comment. I totally agree. Only there when you need them.

[@SuperSpringsInternational]

Thank you for the review. We’re so glad you’re enjoying them!

[@bobbygfl]

SuperSprings thank you for the comment!

[@hmmv4]

I'm trying to decide between the blue and black springs for my 2010 Tacoma. Would I feel much difference between the two when unloaded? I'm leaning towards the black. Thanks

[@SuperSpringsInternational]

If you’re loaded up more than 50% or with a lot of weight most of the time, I’d recommend trying the black. If not, the blue would be great!

[@bobbygfl]

M Lebowski If it helps under load the yellow ones are really not that bad. I would choose more support over ride quality personally now that I know what the yellow ones feel like. Don’t get me wrong, you feel the road but it doesn’t knock your fillings out. Well like a sports car than a jeep if that makes any sense. In fact my daughter said her jeep is way bouncier and it’s stock.

[@hmmv4]

Thanks guys, cant wait to get them installed.

[@honda116969]

After I put my sumo springs on I wound up loosening them again just to make sure everything was straight then we retighten it AGAIN lol... My passenger is offset a bit like yours, on my Tacoma as well. 💪

[@bobbygfl]

Yeah, I even checked mine about a month later just to make sure. Lol can’t be safe enough! And the slight imbalance did not affect anything else except visually being slightly different. No performance difference. Thanks for the comment!

[@blakel4595]

You really should try the blue or black ones. Those springs are the same ones that they also put on the tundra so yellow is overkill even for the tundra. If you check their recommendation chart yellow is for severe duty such as a truck that permanently hauls around a heavy pick up camper for hauls every single day. I am using my Tundra to the max and still only went with black as to not destroy the empty ride

[@bobbygfl]

Good choice. I was going for zero sag but the ride is fought for sure.

[@muletowndumpsters]

​@@bobbygfl the Tacoma can't haul much weight, definitely not that of of the black or yellow sumo springs. My Tundra has the black ones and I'm hauling up to 10k weight.

[@GerardoTostado]

@@muletowndumpsterswell black is rated for 1000 lbs. went with the black for my taco

[@Imagine12Helix]

I have a Chevy 3500HD and added the Timbren springs. When they are installed you need a 1" clearance between the bottom of the Timbren to the bump. This allows for a gentle ride while not towing. Your new springs are already hitting the bump and that would seem to be the reason your have a rough ride when not towing. Just an observation.

[@bobbygfl]

Agreed, they definitely stiffen up the right a bit because they hit the frame but it’s really not all that noticeable.

[@nugget-os1dc]

thank you for uploading this i have the same problem i got a 2 and a half ton boat to haul and my tacoma sags like crazy this is a life saver thank you

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks for the comment! Glad it helped.

[@NerjoeZenhue]

I recommend adding some torque paint on both the axle and the plate prior to plate removal. That way you'll know your centered when re-assembling.

[@bobbygfl]

Great tip. Thanks

[@sylvainchenevert4445]

Thks bro… i have a Tacoma Trail 2022 and,im pretty Shure,im gonna put a Air Lift system on.. I’m loading a lot sometimes and it’s crazy when you look my truck outside….be crazy

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks!

[@T12i99iN]

Great Looking Taco! You're right, you probably wouldn't want to go offroading with the yellow SumoSprings..lol.

[@bobbygfl]

T-12 lol. Thanks! Agreed.

[@ericblair5402]

Can you elaborate? And which set or color would you recommend?

[@T12i99iN]

@@ericblair5402 I hope this helps - www.supersprings.com/which-density-is-right-for-you/

[@timsr.6706]

Excellent video, I have a 2016 Tacoma, think I'm going to get the black ones, in between yellow and blue. I have a 3" lift front and back, pull a 14' trailer with a side by side, sags really bad.

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks!

[@mitchellheath1837]

Thank you for being so in depth with this video

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks for the comment!

[@littleaub2145]

There color coded, i was told, black for med weight and yellow for motor homes, and where you said one of them stick out and the other one sticks in, i think they can be an in side and out side to the way they go under the truck, maybe.

[@bobbygfl]

Sumo Springs rep said they are all slightly different because of the way they are attached to the metal bracket. And yes the different weight is color-coded I think blue is the softest then Black than yellow is the stiffest. I love them though. For me they have worked perfectly.

[@HealthSupercharger]

There should be a gap of 1 to 1.5 inches between the sumo spring and the frame when truck has light load of passengers so that the suspension can work more softy and absorb the light load shocks. Then under heavy load then it should touch. That way you have progressive spring rate. I would cut down the top 1st bump of the sumo spring so you have 1.25 inches of gap under normal light load.

[@bobbygfl]

Makes sense but with this application impossible. This is the spring sumo recommends for the Tacoma and as you can see it’s very close.

[@HealthSupercharger]

@@bobbygfl Shorten it by cutting of the top 1.25" from the sumo spring. Looks like they did not make it ideally for your truck because they were lazy to make many different heights. If you have a 1.25 inch gap you will have a comfortable ride when lightly loaded and you only want these to engage once you load your truck with soil or heavy trailer. Also you bought the super stiff ones that support 2800 lb weight for 50% compression. This is too heavy duty for a tacoma, you will never carry that much extra weight. I would recommend the softer ones blue for 1000 lb of support at 50% compression that way you have more suspension in the sumo spring. The black ones are 1500 lb support at 50% compression that might be the most i would go on a tacoma. They yellow ones are good for F250 or F350

[@qouavang3646]

You shouldve gotten blue instead, blue is for midsize truck, blue wouldve more than enough for what ever youre towing. Yellow and black are for medium to heavy duty and fullsize trucks, but each to their own! If it works for you great, great tacoma though!

[@bobbygfl]

qoua vang thanks! I called sumo and asked. I wanted as little compression as possible. I don’t like the truck to squat under load. They said these combined with the extra leaf springs I added would be my best option. They were right. When hooked to my boat there is only a 1/2 drop but the suspension still travels quite a bit. In this case I’m glad I calmed them. The product is doing exactly what they said it would.

[@journeytoliving7344]

@@bobbygfl so you needed to install an add leaf and the sumo springs to correct the sag in rear when trailer hooked up or had a heavy load? I have a 2 seater side x side on a 7x12 si angle axel and it raises the front more than I am comfortable with. Feels very floaty in front going down the road. I was going to add just the sumo springs. What do you think

[@bobbygfl]

Here’s what I learned on my journey with this. I may make a video on it because I get the question a lot. The additional spring leaf lifted the rear about an inch on the torque setting I tightened the bolts to. For loads I’d say around 200 pounds it keeps the rear from sagging. It also makes the ride tight with no load. Not bouncy just tight. Like a sports car. The sumo springs barely even touch at 200 pounds load. At 500 pounds load and up the sumo springs take over. When I have my boat hooked up the sumo springs are working for sure. What happens is you get zero sag up to maybe 800 pounds. And the ride is a dream. Very smooth. When you are towing or have a heavy load the sumo springs are so smooth. Like ringing on air. So the experience is the combination of not the extra leaf and the sumo spring depending on how heavy you’re loaded. Hope that helps.

[@jaymackay4303]

most trucks lean. The issue is that most trucks have the fuel tank on the driver's side. This means if the tank is full and the driver is in it alone then there is likely 400 lbs more weight on that side. If there are two people of equal weight in the truck and the tank is half full or less there should be no lean.

[@bobbygfl]

Jay Mackay you’d think manufactures would put the tank on the passenger side.

[@leprechaunpls]

Then you would half to walk around to the other side to fill it up (catch 22), eeehhh, don’t mind me I get lazy some times

[@mrmatt7210]

Starting at 8:51 it appears your boat trailers jack wheels are sitting on a wood block rather than lifted to place the full weight of the load onto your tow hitch. If so this would affect the sag you may experience while measuring your wheel well distance.

[@bobbygfl]

Mr Matt it’s hard to tell because there’s something in the way or the angle is not showing, but what I did was crank the jack about an 1” off the round wood pad it sits on when off the truck. At 10:07 you can see it, but again hard to tell it’s not touching the ground. With the full weight of the trailer tongue there’s barely any sag. It’s really amazing.

[@mrmatt7210]

@@bobbygfl Your reply and video have been very helpful. I hope to add a set of Sumosprings to my Nissan this summer.

[@kerrykc1]

Nice I am thinking about putting a set on my 2021 ford ranger

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks!

[@benjones8977]

I opted for airbags, as I can adjust the pressure and don’t have a stiff of a ride.

[@bobbygfl]

I thought of doing that but did not want to spend the money. That’s a better option for sure if you want the ability to adjust on the fly.

[@downtowndrewbrown7129]

I put blue sumosprings on my 16 tacoma. I have a bed shell and tow a 20ft boat in summer. I kept them in all summer but couldn't take it anymore I just removed them this weekend they made it ride like. Damn wagon and your lying to yourself if you don't feel the same lol

[@bobbygfl]

It’s pretty rough agreed!

[@jimcatanzaro7808]

I like your tires btw looks sharp

[@bobbygfl]

Thank you!

[@greenhausroams]

Hey man, 2 years later are you still enjoying them? Planning on putting an AirLift kit in my 2020 as I'll permanently have about 1,000 lbs in the bed (water tank and sprayer). The yellow sumo kit is a bit cheaper, but I'm going back and forth between the two systems. Thanks! Great video as well.

[@bobbygfl]

Thank you. I’d say air would be better because I don’t feel like the sumo springs are made for continuous pressure. But they are great. If I’m hooked up it keeps the tailgate from squaring

[@ibmtpx24]

I would probably use the weight distribution hitch before adding sumosprings.

[@bobbygfl]

I thought about that but if you want the payload in the bed to not cause the truck to squat the weight distribution hitch won’t do anything.

[@ibmtpx24]

@@bobbygfl For large tongue weight I would use wdh and sumo but for less tongue weight the wdh will distribute the weight to the front end of the truck so the rear axle doesn't take all the tongue weight.

[@jonp6347]

What's the measurement on the summo. Awesome video I have a tundra and using Timberline and it sag till it hit the rubber.

[@bobbygfl]

The spring is about 7” and the mount adds about 2.5”. Thanks!

[@williambryan2804]

I just installed these on my 2007 Tundra. I noticed the right side sits a little higher than the left side. The left side touches lightly and there is a small gap on the right side. They seemed to line up right. I torqued the nuts to 95 ft./lbs.

[@bobbygfl]

Same with the Tacoma! Feel good that it’s normal. Thanks for the comment!

[@JuniorJr_23]

Wow, I searched the internet and found what I was looking for! Thank you for sharing and the installation is very helpful. I ended ordering the yellow since I pull a 3 seater jetski. Also, like your bumper step and would like to know where you purchased it? Thanks.

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks for the comment the bumper step is from amp research and you can get it on Amazon. The springs are still going strong. I recently loaded a bunch of concrete bags and they really do their job keeping the truck from dragging its ass down the street.

[@JuniorJr_23]

@@bobbygfl Thanks for your reply.

[@Mike-4547]

Thank you for the video. How much higher did it get with out the weight/ trailer?

[@bobbygfl]

About 1.5 inches

[@GonzoZener]

Great video. I think they may not be sized right though. Your added leaf may have shortened the normal gap that seems like should be there so they are not making contact during normal position. I think they should have some clearance and should only make contact when going over bumps or articulating. I think Sumo Springs needs better inrstuctions for sizing before ordering. The space between the bottom of the bump stop and the the contact point seems like a key point in properly sizing these.

[@gantfrost7749]

Agree, just from what I have read, sounds like for a Tacoma you would only want the blue or the black at most. But could be wrong as have not tried them yet, will be installing some blue ones next week.

[@nigga7387]

@@gantfrost7749 howd it go? better ride? i’m gonna buy some

[@gantfrost7749]

@@nigga7387 the ones they ordered me, came without the mounting bracket, could not use them, so in the end never did it. good luck with yours.

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks!

[@Turtlemilk]

I have a question.. I have a heavy camper shell on my Tacoma that weights about 190-200 pounds that kinda “sags” with a 1.5 inch lift in the rear. (It’s probably 1 inch lift because of the camper) if I installed these sumos, will they lift it back up ?

[@bobbygfl]

Yes but your ride will be rough. Better to Install a spacer in my opinion. These are for temporary heavy loads like pulling a boat

[@boluchhh]

I just installed the black sumo springs, rated at 1,500 pounds, great improvement

[@hmmv4]

I'm trying to decide between the blue and black. Is the ride more bumpy when unloaded?

[@boluchhh]

M Lebowski it’s a little more bumpy but not too much, you get less body roll as well, my truck has a camper shell and most of the time i carry tools or pull a trailer, so for my truck the black ones where a better fit

[@OneAndOnlyChi]

Did you install on a taco?

[@boluchhh]

@@OneAndOnlyChi Yes on a 2005 tacoma

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks!

[@gearhigher2027]

Have used Timbren SES stops on 2010 Taco SR5 4x4 over 12 years no issues with pulling an 8500 lb boat on a dual axel trailer and overloading bed with probably a ton of concrete. Curious about trying these on my new 2022 Taco SR5 4x4; your thoughts?

[@bobbygfl]

I’m not familiar with the product you mentioned. I love these though. They accomplish exactly what I needed them to. On an empty load they don’t do anything. But loaded down they sure get stiff fast. Good luck hope that helps thanks for the comment

[@DMHal01]

So it will help give a slight lift? I installed a Dobinsons 1.5” lift on my 17 Tacoma and an add-a-leaf but the add-a-leaf added more than 2” so it’s way too high on the back end. I want to add just a slight lift on the back end to even it out. I presume this will do the trick?

[@bobbygfl]

Just the leaf springs will give it a lift not the sumo Springs

[@kenlangille9050]

I wonder how they would work on 25 ft travel trailer on tocoma

[@bobbygfl]

I bet very good.

[@dennis82468]

Driver's side of the vehicle is always heavier therefore lower. Gas tank and battery are on the drivers side

[@bobbygfl]

Yes. Makes sense and the springs totally fixed that. Trucks it’s level with the driver or passenger is doesn’t really matter

[@budireaux]

The gas tank is centered.

[@jimcatanzaro7808]

I wonder if this will help with my Tacoma lean on the drivers side I also tow a 4000lb boat and trailer and it sags really good looks like this will be the fox

[@bobbygfl]

Yes. It’ll fix both. So glad I did this.

[@wasachevyguy]

The famous Tacoma and Tundra lean can be fixed with a quarter inch shim

[@bobbygfl]

Ahhh. Thanks!

[@jimcatanzaro7808]

The fix is on the drivers side front 1/4 shim

[@jskaggs8188]

That looks like it will limit travel and create a bouncy rear end without the trailer.

[@bobbygfl]

It’s not at all bouncy but it’s rougher than it was. To put it in perspective we also on a jeep wrangler four-door. The jeep is bouncier and it has a factory suspension. So I would not consider it too bad.

[@stevenkhan4344]

Not bounce. Stiffer and less flex

[@godspeed1000rr]

❤beautifully trucks we Have😂 got the same generation and will install sumo springs as well

[@bobbygfl]

Nice 👍

[@richie21785]

And also you got the tundra sumo sumo that sit hire so it can make contact with the body part number you have is SSR-610-47 correct?

[@bobbygfl]

yes i believe so.

[@BobSmith-rz5us]

I installed the same ones (yellow) 3 months ago. They certainly make a rough ride over bumpy roads but aren’t noticeable on paved roads. Since you have had them installed for a good while Are you still liking them?

[@bobbygfl]

yes, i still like them. agreed on the ride. much smoother under load for sure but i'd install them all over again for sure.

[@MrDoeMai]

@@bobbygfl I have a shell on mines so under load it'll probably suite me well than.

[@bobbygfl]

@@MrDoeMai yes for sure.

[@1603shadow]

Looking into these for my 2016 Tacoma TRD Sport, I like that little back step you were standing on is that after market ?

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks. Love them! Yes the step is aftermarket. Here’s the link: AMP Research 75307-01A BedStep Retractable Bumper Step for 2005-2015 Toyota Tacoma,Black,Large www.amazon.com/dp/B0049UWQXQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_CATCTJ9FP5F8ZVZQTAQ5

[@bobbygfl]

Here’s the link. AMP Research 75307-01A BedStep Retractable Bumper Step for 2005-2015 Toyota Tacoma,Black,Large www.amazon.com/dp/B0049UWQXQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_CATCTJ9FP5F8ZVZQTAQ5

[@jakemarlow8998]

Thanks for the great video! Do you know what brand of helper springs you have? It sounds like they are not that good seeing how you had to add a second load-supporting product.

[@bobbygfl]

The helper springs I got from Amazon and they provided some lift so I would get them again for that reason alone. Also it takes quite a bit of weight to get the sumo springs to actually kick into action. If I am just telling my boat the helper springs are plenty. If I’m carrying a heavy load in the bed the helper springs were not enough and the combination of both keeps the truck level but also allows for suspension travel. Hope that helps

[@jakemarlow8998]

@@bobbygfl Great info, thanks so much for the response!

[@HealthSupercharger]

All trucks these days need extra 1 or 2 leaves in their leafsprings pack so they can work with loads. they design them for comfort not load.

[@bobbygfl]

Agreed! Thanks for the comment!

[@offgridmangogrower]

How do you like the overloads so far…? Roughly what did a set set you back?

[@bobbygfl]

The overloads? What do mean? And I’m not sure the cost. They are on Amazon and installed easily.

[@damianpeters4321]

I don't understand getting a mid size truck and lifting it trying to make it a full size truck?

[@bobbygfl]

Me neither!

[@davidh5950]

I watched another install video and fyi you don’t have to actually remove the plate. Just back the nuts off and you can easily put the sumo spring in.

[@bobbygfl]

Good to know!! Thank you

[@treelife365]

Thanks for the video!

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks!

[@boomdoggy]

Very well presented and articulated!

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks!

[@michaelcain2737]

You should change your u bolts every time you remove them

[@bobbygfl]

That’s great advice thank you

[@adamcraven2002]

Why did you use the yellow not blue

[@bobbygfl]

My objective was to have as little tailgate sag as possible. The yellow is the stiffest.

[@fiveohstang]

I don't tow anything and the tops of my sumo springs wore through within the 5 year warranty. I made a claim in May and haven't heard back yet after multiple attempts. They do work great but wish the company was more customer service oriented.

[@bobbygfl]

Christopher Wade that’s interesting. Mine rub the frame constantly and look fine. Hope they resolve it.

[@rj12345rj]

Good to know thanks. Any resolution?

[@fiveohstang]

@@rj12345rj Yes, they eventually took care of it and sent me new springs.

[@inconel204]

how are you still liking them yellow? I'm thinking about getting 1 for 0 sag. Is the ride manageable? how rough is rough without load?

[@bobbygfl]

This is the most popular question and the best way I can explain it is a jeep wrangler 2018 is a rougher ride. I hope that helps.

[@x-men-7446]

Quick question? How do you like them so far? Especially when you are not towing or hauling anything? Does it effect it when you use your four wheel drive? Any traction problems? I’m thinking of getting a pair for my Tundra.

[@bobbygfl]

I love them. When you are not hauling anything I think you get a little bit more balance because your spring travel is allow the sumo springs to push up against the frame. For perspective my daughters jeep is more bouncy and it’s stock. I have zero traction problems this is not a four-wheel-drive. And went under load they are perfect keeping the rear of the truck from squatting.

[@gogoydollaga3607]

its your truck lifted and by how many inches? thanks

[@bobbygfl]

Yes. Check out my Tacoma playlist. I show the measurements. 2” in back 1” in front. About. Here’s the link kzbin.info/aero/PLsZvjE7Duh8SgsNkzad-stonXbhaWMTPP

[@ClassyTacos]

Nice video, good detail!

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks

[@ClassyTacos]

Dude that was 3 year ago. @@bobbygfl

[@wesmccoy7061]

Truck needs to sag a bit. Does it ride rough now empty

[@bobbygfl]

Yes not as rough as a jeep my daughter has a jeep and frankly it’s rougher but like I said in my other comment with a couple hundred pounds load it as much smoother

[@kennylaw559]

You are supposed to stop when the torque wrench clicks......not continue another 45 to 60 degrees......

[@madviking1320]

Lmao...exactly what I was thinking. Must be used to lashing valves. Tight, then another quarter turn. ;) Thanks for the review. I just bought a set or Timbren for a lowered F-150.

[@rokstarwannabe]

That was actually cringy to watch. Lol

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks

[@trxtone7187]

How tall does it sit with out the load ?

[@bobbygfl]

These do not affect height without load. They don’t even touch. But this truck sits about 1.5” higher than stock.

[@TheBamidd]

Cool. Helped me make the decision to add these to my Gen 1 Tundra SR5 along with a Hellwig helper spring. Good content.

[@bobbygfl]

awesome! thank you

[@richie21785]

Hey how are the sumo springs holding up, are you currently still using them. And would you go to a different color cause of the ride?

[@bobbygfl]

Yes. Still on there and holding up great. No I’d stay with the same color. I don’t pull the boat anymore but I do use two 14 gallon gas caddies all the time. The truck sags zero when full. It’s so nice. And the ride is fine. No complaints

[@thefixer8457]

Just so I am clear, is there a step to measure clearance from the top plate then add a half inch using a spacer if need be, if not wooohooo..lol.

[@bobbygfl]

From what i understand no. Just take the weight off the suspension, install and they sit where they sit. some contact is fine.

[@thefixer8457]

@@bobbygfl sweet ty

[@1234ahhh1]

I noticed you have a set of Hellwig helper springs as well? So the Hellwig and the sumos together you think will work with a 4000lb camper?

[@bobbygfl]

yes for sure. the combination of the two is the best option for heavy loads.

[@1234ahhh1]

@@bobbygfl I was debating getting AAL kit with the sumosprings. I may just go with Hellwig, then the sumos

[@juddadam2]

maybe try flipping spring around and it might line up better

[@bobbygfl]

BobaFettTundra that’s a great idea. It may be not mounted perfectly on the bracket. Good call.

[@LimitedGunnerGM]

The 2800# yellow formula?

[@bobbygfl]

They are yellow. Not sure on the formula.

[@jperiksen]

what add a leaf is that?

[@bobbygfl]

It’s a Hellwig 980 Helper Spring

[@michaelarnold5055]

Are they still doing good?

[@bobbygfl]

Yes! Not a single problem

[@JuanManuel-fm9jt]

What type of tires do you have and where you bought them?

[@bobbygfl]

Tacoma Kings here’s the link for the tires: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWinqIqHZrmErrc

[@fabianfazzari7261]

What is the part number on the sumo-springs if you remember I cannot find the yellow ones online. Also what support springs you running?

[@bobbygfl]

i think ssr-610-54. i got them from amazon. best to do a search with your truck loaded in. amazon will tell you if its right.

[@gryphondorstreeter8585]

What was the tounge weight?

[@bobbygfl]

About 200

[@PlugNuster]

I bet those YELLOW 2800 rated Sumo's are kicking your ass when not towing anything. Why did you go with the firmest ones on a Tacoma? Your ride would have been much better with the BLUE 1000 rated.

[@qouavang3646]

Exactly, blue is for small trucks. Black and yellow are for medium to heavy duty.

[@Hhhservices]

Because he’s using them for towing?

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks

[@mmunoz5875]

Does it sit higher without being loaded?

[@twomontess]

Im sure it does. Those are the wrong Sumo springs for his application. He needs the blue springs. The yellow are for a constantly fully loaded truck such as a camper top

[@bobbygfl]

No. They actually don’t even touch the frame.

[@Survey_gos]

Would these increase my load capacity by installing these in my Gen 2 Taco? I'm wanting to haul a slide in pop up camper and trying to stay under my GVWR load capacity weight. Also, it's funny in these comments that 90% reiterate themselves by saying you should've gotten the blue or black instead of yellow. sorry, lol

[@TheDaveyDonut]

GVWR is still the same. these only help the sag.

[@bobbygfl]

No. It’ll increase your load capacity from a bottom out perspective but potentially be damaging the frame or other parts if you go be on the manufacturers load recommendation

[@codyhenleyfishing]

What exact one did you get? And firmness?

[@bobbygfl]

Here’s the link: SSR-610-54 | SumoSprings Rear for Toyota Tundra, Toyota Tacoma, Nissan Frontier, Nissan Titan www.amazon.com/dp/B01LVUZYIO/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_N3QTBHBSDBZPY666R5HX?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[@revvvrand]

Aren't the yellows made for a 1 ton dually? If available on a Tacoma, I guess it would be for hardcore offroading? If too hard, it could cause your wheels to loose traction easier from being too stiff. Blue ones may have been all you need brother. If not enough still, then maybe get a Tundra?

[@bobbygfl]

The yellow ones are very stiff and correct, not for off roading. I’m not sure any sumo spring would improve off-roading. I was going purely for payload increase. Thanks for the comment.

[@TheBestGreasers]

They make all 3 options for any truck. Each one is a different grade or stiffness.

[@canyonero2050]

$300 dollars and a rougher ride all for 1/2"?

[@bobbygfl]

Well it’s a bit more value than just the lift. It’s mainly a payload value. But yes, about 1/2”

[@cristianstriblea792]

Do they fit for tundra 2022 ?

[@bobbygfl]

They have ones that do. I believe they are longer and the bracket flange is different.

[@cpt_sweettooth]

Would you still prefer sumo over the helper spring?

[@bobbygfl]

DADDY_ JULZ for me the combination of both has been ideal. The helper spring gave me a little extra lift and the sumo spring prevents sag.

[@kenpynn3581]

What is the torque specs for the u bolts?

[@bobbygfl]

52 lbs but you should call sumo springs to verify.

[@duaneulman9915]

Thank you

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks

[@MrDoeMai]

What size tire are those?

[@bobbygfl]

I’m not sure what you mean by size they are the ones designed for tacomas in the stiffest setting.

[@MrDoeMai]

@@bobbygfl I was asking about the tire size setup. I love his wheel and tire package and want to do the same.

[@stevenkhan4344]

Agree with the others who said you should have gotten the Blue (lightest load) on your 1/4 ton truck. Your ride is going to be very stiff. And Blue would be enough for your boat. I mean you drive wo the boat 99% of the time. So, 99% of the time your going to have a horrible stiff ride. Bad choice as others have stated. I assume you don’t do any serious off-roading otherwise you would have steps. But, if you did blue would be better as well.

[@bobbygfl]

The ride is stiff but the yellow accomplished exactly what I wanted which was as little sag as possible. Thanks!

[@gath-smanerivgetse9944]

El.costo de cuanto es?

[@bobbygfl]

about 150.00

[@cashmiller2999]

i tow a travel trailer that is about 4500lbs. I came across these on youtube somehow... I don't have a problem with sag really as i use a weight-distribution hitch with sway control. Obviously, i know im towing with a tacoma and respect the weight and try to be as safe as possible. I know its not a diesel towing rig haha In your opinion do you think it's worth installing? does it improve handling or are summo springs really just to prevent sag?

[@bobbygfl]

The do a number of things. For you I believe preventing roll when turning. They will keep your set up tighter when turning. When hitting bumps under tow your suspension will recover quicker. For the money it’s totally worth it.

[@انگوزمانلوکومتیرزاده]

I wonder if this affects truck articulation ability!

[@bobbygfl]

babi sanders it would definitely affect that and limit the range. I would not put these on for rock climbing. Strictly just for payload.

[@kk-pz8gn]

yellow on my tacoma too, A++ thanks for sharing all your info!

[@bobbygfl]

thank you!

[@stacky512a]

It’s not a beefy program, it’s a tacoma. You should have bought a tundra if you wanted to tow.

[@bobbygfl]

I know! I sold my tundra got this beefed it up sold it got a raptor. I loved this truck but nothing beats a full size one.

[@stacky512a]

@@bobbygfl totally agree.

[@beforeal580]

Just take the bumpstops out completely an it will rd better with a load!

[@bobbygfl]

I was going for no sag.

[@keithsj10]

You probably feel like you're riding on a pool table when you're not loaded or pulling a trailer. The reason Taco's squat at the rear under acceleration is to save the ride quality. If you like harsh rides, you'd LOVE a 1986 4x4 Toyota pickup. You have a problem with what you see by how you react to what you see. Needing your truck to be stiff as a board and ramrod straight at all times is illogical. You have a problem.

[@bobbygfl]

Lol. There is no question I have a problem. Probably more than one. Thanks for the comment. I think Toyota should do a better job with their suspension switch to coil over. I don’t know. I’m not an expert, but I do think a truck looks absolutely stupid squatting down the road. Anyway, the ride is worse in a modern Jeep Wrangler. So by that standard it’s really not too bad. Again, though I appreciate the comment.

[@b.a.1591]

No point in useing a torque wrench if you are just going to keep pulling past the torque lol

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks!

[@wesmccoy7061]

Not liking them engaged all the time. Rough ride.

[@bobbygfl]

I do agree with you. With a couple hundred pounds in the bed it’s much smoother

[@backwoodscharlie8483]

It's not a beefy truck for towing the first three letters of the name tell you all you need to know T O Y. OTA.

[@bobbygfl]

Lol. OK that’s funny

[@JorgeGonzalez-vq8fv]

👉🇵🇷👍🙏😁

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks

[@gvsukids]

you edit videos similar to j Lee Chronicles.

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks

[@richardstone5241]

WAAAAAY OVER PRICED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@bobbygfl]

I thought it was priced ok

[@ea95401]

"beefy program"

[@bobbygfl]

Thanks!

[@ericwoodard8332]

Do they make them 30 inches tall.. hahaha.

[@bobbygfl]

Lol

[@bmile04]

I get u don't want a little sag but now it's like your ridding on axle with no suspension at all. That's gotta ride like complete dog crap. Get better springs that can carry more weight.

[@bobbygfl]

It’s not bad. A Jeep Wrangler factory is worse to make a comparison.

[@seanknight9898]

That’s gotta be a shity ride. Not worth it in my opinion. Would have gone with RAS System.

[@bobbygfl]

My daughter’s stock Jeep runs rougher so depends on what you consider bad. Thanks for the comment.

[@davidalfred924]

@Sean Knight, I have used RAS on my last four trucks. One Chevy S10, two Dodge Dakota's and now my Tacoma. Was still getting a lot of sag on my Tacoma so I added the blue sumo springs and kept the RAS. There is about 1-in clearance from the top of the sumo spring to the frame of the truck. There is no difference in the ride, only no or very little sag when I'm loaded up or pulling the trailer. Even then the ride is just fine.

[@eaznutts5714]

Tacomas a not a real beefy program

[@bobbygfl]

Lol. No not really.