Tactical Guns With Comps... | Comp Problems?

Guns are getting so much cooler, but are the new bells and whistles really an advantage in self defense & competitions? Or are they actually putting you ar a disadvantage? I invited one of my favorite shooters, David - The Humble Marksman, to explain what he's seen as a USPSA Master and Gun-Tuber.
Todays Guest: ‪@TheHumbleMarksman‬
This show was available for 1 week before it came to KZbin on our members page - armedatlas.locals.com
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:24 The Rise of Compensated Handguns
01:48 Challenges with Compensated Handguns
06:13 Manufacturing and Quality Control Issues
11:55 Break-In Periods and High-End Guns
17:35 Competition vs. Consumer Handguns
25:25 The Importance of Holster Compatibility
26:49 Gun Design and Market Adaptation
28:30 SIG Sauer's New Releases and Naming Conventions
30:34 Manufacturing Quality and Innovations
37:22 Choosing the Right Gun for Competition
44:52 Upcoming Reviews and Final Thoughts

[@Quality_Guru]

My biggest takeaway is that Comps are most effective for quick follow up shots. If you are not shooting 2X faster than 1/2 second splits then you are not taking advantage of the comp. So before I get a comp pistol I would be better served by purchasing a shot timer and more ammo to increase my skill at speed with accuracy.

[@GunClubRadio]

Spot on!

[@TheGreatestRhea]

PLEASE produce more no-BS content like this. After diving into USPSA over the past year, I’ve witnessed the firearm industry trends and new “hotness” absolutely crap the bed in practical application. Information like this saves new inexperienced gun owners money and time from the flashy garbage big guntoobers push for that sweet sweet check.

[@GunClubRadio]

I can't speak for other GunTubers, but David (THM) has been very good about giving you the facts about each gun he reviews. He answers questions about how the gun can be expected to work practically in shooting sports or where the manufacturers made questionable choices with what they include for the price. If the audience wants more honest takes, we will provide them. I do, however, wonder why we're accused of shilling for Sig or bashing Smith when they are both held accountable in this video. Maybe I'm not meant to understand. I'm glad you liked the video. 🫡

[@adventurfly879]

Too late. Got the carry comp compact. 1200 flawless rounds so far. Excellent and extremely accurate gun. Love it. Big fan of m&ps. Have 4 of them now

[@GunClubRadio]

I love that for you.

[@StevosMfDen]

As someone who had to work on old sig pistols and new sig pistols I can confirm that new sig is unethical in how poor quality they are and the materials used are. Sad to see.

[@GunClubRadio]

What have you seen in regard to material changes?

[@StevosMfDen]

@@GunClubRadio FCG has low grade metals the springs are also fairly brittle and week. This fit of some of the components in the FCG causes binding. Everyone in concerned about the SIG pistols discharging when dropped or while in the holster when we had the opposite problem of keeping them firing. We had p226s that where dog tired but kept going. At first I thought that they needed to be fired more for break in period. But after seeing more components fail after 500-1000 rounds we realized they are the dodge neon of pistols. Hopefully with the newer models they have everything worked out.

[@johnkader1176]

Great conversation, David is a knowledgeable marksmen willing to share his experience with all, glad you had him on your show.

[@GunClubRadio]

and a great friend. I'm fortunate to have him in my corner. Glad he could share his wealth of knowledge with the audience.

[@nickmurdaugh9856]

11:52 I'm on the Colorado National Guard shooting team. Been shooting a long time. At the last TAG match I shot, I induced a malfunction on the M17 because I wasn't used to the gun yet. I cost myself six shots on the round. It happens to all of us.

[@GunClubRadio]

That's AWESOME!( that you're part of the shooting team) and that sucks( the malfunctions). And I appreciate you sharing this! No shame is leaning a lesson.

[@Maurice3774]

Thing i got was everything not for everybody and that's ok and spend your mo ey how You want just always investigate before you invest

[@georgec5769]

Its kinda like comp pistols are the sports cars of the gun world. They run best off high end gas(bullets) and require experienced drivers (shooters)

[@rhodycars6058]

Bro this video is amazing. Keep up this style man love it

[@GunClubRadio]

That's incredibly kind of you to say! Got a few cool things in the works. Stay tuned & please share!

[@rhodycars6058]

@@GunClubRadio the in-depth information from really knowledgeable people without schilling products and people being on the payroll are the best types of content man.

[@GunClubRadio]

Glad we could provide all that. I'll probably wok on that video tonight. There's a few misconceptions we need to clear up and a few truths to expose.

[@dailymoodavation2612]

Just purchased a P365 Legion that has an erratic ejection pattern and is 5 to 6 inches left at 10 yds. "Customer Service" was rude and refused to listen to what I was doing with the weapon. He couldn't believe I was shooting at 30 yds. Done with Sig. Canik TTI is a champ tho

[@GunClubRadio]

Man. I hate that for you. Customer service is CRUCIAL.

[@Chuckinglead]

Huh that p365 legion is a good gun i do see tons of people shoot to the left is it also a low and to the left lol jk but hey that tti seems to have a bunch of issues they even mention it in this video has yours been fine?

[@Cortezuma]

The thing is the 365 Legion doesn’t actually have a compensator. It’s a ported slide only, which happens to have its ports on the top only and directly in front of the barrel. They call it a “slide integrated expansion chamber” but a lot of people just say compensator. Since the barrel isn’t ported, any issues you’re having really aren’t related to a compensator because it doesn’t have one. Understanding the behavior of gas, I don’t see how that particular element is contributing to a change in accuracy.

[@jonn8163]

Sorry you had the bad experience. I have had only great interactions with the sig customer service. Even with one of the original low serial number 365’s that had horrendous primer drag so bad that I was snapping firing pins. Every time they send it back it was quick and easy then finally they sent me an entirely new slide.. haven’t had an issue with that one ever since

[@armenchuck]

@@jonn8163same here, Sig customer service has always been top notch to me

[@savagecow2089]

I understand his argument that compensators do not help reduce split times in defensive scenarios but could it be argued that they do still help with the felt recoil and therefore help in general with target acquisition.

[@GunClubRadio]

I'd listen to that argument.

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

The PMM duty comp is great. It is enough to make a positive difference while not negatively affecting reliability. I’ve had zero issues with it that I didn’t have with the gun before I put it on and it does help with multiple strings of fire.

[@GunClubRadio]

a good comp helps! I think they use a PMM on the new Walthet pro X

[@UponGiantsShoulders]

Wife bought me the metal full size carry comp. Got about 1500 rounds through it. Its been 100% and it shoots pretty good. Not as flat as my PDP with the HA comp, a brass backstrap, Trashcan, etc. Still, all this talk about purpose... who cares, it really seems silly to put all this emphasis on these factors when its not the arrow, its the Indian. I shoot all my guns side by side from time to time and have friends and sometimes new shooters out there... everyone who shot the new carry comp commented on how easy it was to shoot. These are people who cannot really explain themselves because they are simply not that experience, but they all agreed it shot well compared even to some of my competition guns that are all tricked out. A shadow 2 was better many said, but not by that much. If you are a competitor and want to min-max gear, you do you, but most of us are not. We are simply interested in these guns and some of us are easily swayed. Others, like me, are just bored watching to see if some new idea will spark joy or offer some training value. TL;DR, 10-100's of thousands of these guns will be sold and only a few hundred to thousands of people will EVER compete with them. This angle has limited interest to people like me....

[@daniel45-70]

Great wife

[@LVbibby]

Good interview thanks! Sig steel monster is awesome may not be that popular. Atlas review was excellent by the way.

[@GunClubRadio]

Thanks for the comment, I'll make sure he seems this

[@Snapper314]

I think Sig should have called it "Chromium".

[@designated_hitter_EGA]

Dave is a great guy always will to give great advise based on his experience, in shooting spots which is much appreciated.

[@GunClubRadio]

agreed

[@jimchambers7548]

I love guns, and the while shooting experience. I started shooting in the early 90s and the gun world is a lot like womens fashion. I gotta have it because its new and everyone else has it is. The companies are putting more shit on guns than you need as an average Joe. Unless you're shooting comp matches you don't really need most of the crap we put on them. Enjoyed listening👍

[@GunClubRadio]

We have to be savvy consumers. Appreciate you sharing wisdom.

[@dd805100]

Thats why the i never clean my glock guys like glocks and tend to stick with them though and they dont cost a grand out of the factory and they just work is it really that complicated? Also i think tuning the car is a poor comparison because you can buy a new luxury sports car which is also a highly complex mechanical machine but they do just work and they always have good customer service cause the car industry is held to a way higher standard where as gun companies burn themselves and other companies all the time like K USA, now they are out of buissness and no one even wants to buy them cause they were such a terrible company. Interesting video though, also I tend to always try and purchase the best price to performance with reliability and I have never bought a comped gun anyway just for reference. Still appreciate the effort into the discussion.

[@GunClubRadio]

Decent point about the car thing. Although many of these lux/sport cars require a heavy maintenance schedule that the average consumer isn't prepared for. I find many new 2011 owners run into the same issue with the cleaning schedule

[@daveshadenuff187]

This was a great conversation,and I actually did learn some stuff I didn’t know anything about,a lot of the time you just hear people regurgitate the same thing over and over that they hear.This was very interesting.I kinda figured some of these gun sights on guns where off from the factory.That is pretty cool SIG uses a robot to do there gun sights.I can say for sure I learned some stuff watching this that I didn’t know,and I do appreciate that.

[@GunClubRadio]

Hey. I love that you got real value from this. I always hope that my uploads challenges or educates the audience. Really glad to hear this.

[@daveshadenuff187]

@@GunClubRadioAlso subbed to both channels,keep up the great content man!!!!

[@GunClubRadio]

Thank you for the support.

[@chefojose]

So why only give excuses for the Sig? Not the TTI nor the S&W…

[@GunClubRadio]

Sig catches strays from me on a regular basis. The only reason they didn't take criticism here is because they haven't had any notable issues with their conp guns. I thought we mentioned they they aren't truly optimized based on their expectation of reliability with a very wide range of ammo.

[@4g1vn]

I own a TTI and put 1k rounds of 115gr FMJ without a single issue. Are there reports of issues with certain ammo?

[@GunClubRadio]

There doesn't seem to be a particular ammo set or brand that would replicate the some of the issues reported. (Based on the handful of reports I've seen online & in my comment section)

[@_Art.Vandelay]

I think arguments for comps fall into two categories: Sig/PMM/S&W/Radian compromise the compensator design to work with most factory loads which lessens the effectiveness of the comp OR People are buying high performance compensators and aren’t taking the time to tune in what ammo and loads are giving them the most performance gain. Tbh I think the former, while compromised, still give you a decent enough performance gain as long as you have your fundamentals down. It just sucks that there’s no competitive space for those like Dave mentions. I dream about a “carry open” division in USPSA that allows guns of a certain weight/dimension that can have optics, comps and magwells shot from concealment.

[@GunClubRadio]

Really thoughtful comment. I think you're on to something.

[@deanmiles3505]

Great advice, people need to drop their egos. Take care, Be safe

[@GunClubRadio]

Definitely! Likewise

[@delewis4578]

Great podcast. Great info

[@GunClubRadio]

Thank you 🙏🏽

[@phillyb4588]

I’m never the problem

[@GunClubRadio]

NEVER EVER

[@josh656]

I’ve made it this far without a comp.

[@GunClubRadio]

you'll be just fine.

[@wisesage3289]

Good interview. Humble Marksman is one of the best channels. Thanks.

[@GunClubRadio]

He's completely underrated

[@LtLemontwist]

At 7:00, DD had barrel issues unrelated to ammo. They were simply out of spec. The ammo was not magically so different that it could somehow engage the rifling on every other gun except DD. There is even evidence from multiple people that capture the fired bullets showing no sign of rifling engagement on the jacket.

[@GunClubRadio]

oh wow. Thanks for clarifying

[@HammersOverStrikers]

Got yourself a new subscriber.

[@GunClubRadio]

thank you🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@HammersOverStrikers]

The curve he explained is pretty much EXACTLY the same for buying golf clubs😂

[@GunClubRadio]

haha right? Most people aren't good enough to know the difference!

[@JCrew4uthatguntalk]

Best show my brother!

[@GunClubRadio]

Love you bro. let's catch up

[@UponGiantsShoulders]

Following proper science and knowing how bad science journalism is, the last thing I would do is assume some study about split times represents reality. Who are these folks measuring split times and what exactly does an average have to do with the self defense shooting I find myself in? Averages are gross figures. An incident is a discrete encounter. You do yourself a big disservice imagining one is the story that represents the other, no less not applying skepticism to a figure from such a publication. Be skeptical and train for competence, not to emulate some fiction, no less one produced by gross figures... This falls under, smart people using data in stupid ways.... Never paint yourself into a corner you cannot shoot your way out of...or something... ie, you end up tailoring your self defense strategy around an average, a gross figure imagining you will not need the extra control and speed a comp gives you, then you happen to be an outlier in the data needing that extra control and speed because the guy you put 2 shots in needed 3 to be stopped and he happened to get what was needed in you before that last shot landed... bla bla bla, arnt we all very smart? This is just another argument of the style, I want need an extra magazine because the average shots fired in an encounter is bla bla bla, total waste of brain cells here... Carry as much ammo as you can comfortably, period. All these ideas are pretty lame, IMHO.

[@dbut5427]

Great video. Tti combat and others might be good Tactical Games gun or Proving Ground. Many other type of run and guns that people/athletes run that might be in open uspsa divisions. Comped and or ported guns.

[@GunClubRadio]

I didn't think of that! If they qualify I think they'd be probably great for that! I love my TTI!

[@dbut5427]

@GunClubRadio you can run just about any pistol as long as has a holster

[@UponGiantsShoulders]

"Probably not good for self defense", I mean.... most people shoot faster than they would otherwise in a self defense situation. I really don't think slowing down in training is the answer. But I also do not compete, I do however train with competitors so I end up training like them. IMHO, competence is competence is competence. Good enough is good enough and most self defense shooting happen from totally untrained folks. I am going to let the cards lay where they fall and not over-concern myself with what is optimal and just try to do better than I did last time at the range..

[@__officialtony__]

Love the quality on multiple levels. Got a subscriber.

[@GunClubRadio]

Appreciate the kind words! Welcome to the Club!

[@jjgriffin3275]

YES, the list at the end is what ALL are interested in. Nice to hear the Sig X5 get some love

[@GunClubRadio]

Gotta do a top 5 video for the go-to competition guns

[@ridenfish39]

I have a ported Shadow 2. After shooting this thing a few thousand rounds I would never have a comped or ported carry gun. It’s super loud and the concussion is brutal in a stall. But the really bad thing is all the particles that go through the ports. If you ever have to use it in your car your eyes will be getting all of that debris.

[@ZombieWilfred]

There's an easy way to make a compensator work with all types of ammunition: Frame mount it instead of attaching it to the barrel or slide. Not only will it work with all ammo, but it will also not punish limp wristing, it'll work better if that's done... I just put a model specific frame mounted comp on my Prodigy and I love it.

[@dustinhoward2990]

My tti combat runs flawless 16-1700 rounds different brands and grains.

[@JakeCamo]

I’ve read the Glock 46 was introduced to match German police agency requirements, one big one being takedown ability without pulling the trigger (to avoid negligent discharge).

[@GunClubRadio]

Can we talk about how Glock only brings innovation when it's tied to a gov contract?

[@JakeCamo]

@@GunClubRadio 🤣😂 Fair!

[@GunClubRadio]

😂

[@Ruby_Sterling]

I run a Ramjet Afterburner on my Glock 19 carry gun and I couldn’t be happier. 18lbs recoil spring on a tungsten guide rod. I wouldn’t want a built-in comp.

[@GunClubRadio]

just got the Radian set up for my P365XL. Haven't shot it yet, but I'll definitely be testing it extensively before I even dream of carrying it. Did your 19 run with the stock spring?

[@OgreRoku]

For the last couple of years, I've carried a shield plus. With a comp. It functions perfectly and takes the sharp edge off the recoil. On very weak range ammo, the slide might not lock back after the round. No problem with full power ball or carry ammo. And I'm a permanent moderate skill shooter. Time and money. Dry fire only goes so far

[@GunClubRadio]

heck yeah! glad that's working for you. and glad you found a system that gives you a bit of an edge.

[@toobalicious]

@5:41 - you address the topic of limp wristing a compensated gun. FOR A DEFENSIVE HANDGUN, shouldn't it be able to tolerate limp wristing? It isn't just "dudes with compromised skill" - what if you are injured, involved in some sort of scuffle, etc.? Shouldn't you expect your defensive weapon to fire when you pull the trigger - no matter how well you're holding it?

[@GunClubRadio]

GREAT question. In my opinion. yes and no. There's a certain windows of expected performance. With the most reliable polymer striker-fire handguns, you can easily replicate malfunctions if you limp wrist. It seems that many comped designs will shrink the window. From what I've seen, that's due to the combination of recoil spring & slide cycle speed. If you want to avoid alllllll that. get a revolver. and even still, learn to shoot with both hands to beat potential injury.

[@chriscarr3129]

This is a great session. Thank you David for sharing your knowledge. Your technical knowledge is soooo insightful and helpful.

[@GunClubRadio]

Agreed!

[@LyleH-13]

the steel frame sig x5s also live In a world where they don't have a good competition home, for a "competition ready" gun

[@GunClubRadio]

that's an issue

[@SMOKEPOLETV]

Quick unrelated question. How do you get the live split screen?

[@GunClubRadio]

Send me a DM on instagram or send a quick email, and I'll walk you through it.

[@stevea9266]

Tti combat is just cool. I have the original version and taran made it better. No way these are carry pistols but that’s not why you buy them.

[@GunClubRadio]

I really like mine. Just recorded a review for my main channel @armedatlas

[@aidenfinney3106]

I bought a shadow systems went through the break in period of 300 rounds and it was still having a failure to go into battery thought it was me and had buddies try it same thing sold it the next day

[@GunClubRadio]

that's horrible.

[@sleigh4019]

I sold my Canik sfx .. Ran like champ but I just blast lots of trash lol ..but ran maybe 3000 rds and the gun was great

[@GunClubRadio]

3,000 is a healthy round count. Glad you loved it

[@ytTonyZ]

My love/hate relationship with these videos while looking for the next tier gun has lead me to think I know what I want next, just to have me change my mind. I shot a great number of pistols before purchasing my first hammer fired, a P226 RX Legion. Put in a GrayGuns spring kit and flat trigger and it has run flawlessly for years. Shot a Shadow 2 at a CZ event and thought that was the one, but there are a number of others to consider and many reviews make me want to shoot them first (if one can find them to shoot). Cheers, Tony

[@wrxzboost]

buy what you like. even testing a gun and buying a gun might get you different experiences. i rented a p320 at the gun range and then bought one and the trigger wasn't even in the same hemisphere. you can never have enough guns my friend.

[@Leather_Cheerio]

And great video, I’m a first time viewer….. I’ll be back😂

[@GunClubRadio]

hey! Thank you! tune in for the optics conversation

[@ronlowe6965]

Yea man people don't understand machining I think and what it all intales. And comps are like cars that run on 87octane vs carss that are timed to run on 91

[@GunClubRadio]

I think that's a great way to say it!

[@markn286]

@humblemarksman When are u gonna do the review on the SXG?

[@GunClubRadio]

I see he did a first shots video 2 months ago. I'll have to ask him about when the full review is coming out.

[@Chuckinglead]

My edc is that fde p365xl spectre comp i love it its small and shoots great i think some companies are trying to do something similar but its just not coming out as good

[@GunClubRadio]

I always thought those were pretty sick

[@isaactrujillo76]

If you’re not in competition, then just buy a dang gat. No comps and just practice.

[@GunClubRadio]

Agreed, get those fundamentals down!

[@isaactrujillo76]

@@GunClubRadio amen!

[@Jetski270]

The fact that someone who claims he knows what he or she is doing because they were LEO means nothing. There are a shit load of LEOs or prior LEOs that don't know how to shoot for beans. During my LEO career I didn't agree with the way they trained LEOs to shoot. Not to mention most departments have department issued guns which means if it didn't fit your hand or it was crap you were stuck with what they gave you for duty.

[@GunClubRadio]

Tons of respect to the guys working their butt's off to make safer communities. But PLEASE for the love of everything good... go take a class or 2 or 3. OUTSIDE of the dpt. Plenty of guys are more than qualified to teach that class.

[@Jetski270]

@@GunClubRadio agree 💯 %

[@sleigh4019]

He says prodigy but if its just a first start why not the Tisas DS1911 ..seem 600-700 bucks few mags and optic you'll be at the same cost as the Springfield and its forged so you can upgrade

[@GunClubRadio]

Great question! ill have to ask him. Ive heard great things about Tisas

[@johnlacasse8893]

Tisas is great... However, they are a bit more hit or miss, also a bit more difficult for service. Prodigy isn't perfect, but it is better/ more "refined" and uniform, from pistol to pistol. Springfield Armory, like SIG, seems to release firearms before all the bugs are worked out, but like the Humble Marksman said, when you're producing at scale, you will have some QC issues, regardless.

[@Avg_Vet]

Here he goes trying to change what a 1911 and 2011 is. The kds9c is a double stack 1911.

[@GunClubRadio]

I think there is an objective criteria, wouldn't you agree?

[@Avg_Vet]

@@GunClubRadio I would say any hammer fired, single action 1911 platorm(meaning sear, disconnector, thumb safety setup) are a form of 1911. Either a standard 1911 or a ds 1911/2011 or all hybrids like the dwx, platypus, oracle arms as 2311's. That should be it. But for some reason he doesn't consider the kds9c or dwx 1911's but he considers the platypus. Make it make sense. Whether it is a link less or linked barrel shouldn't matter.

[@sleigh4019]

Its awesome these guns are being sold if it brings ppl into the sport

[@GunClubRadio]

Great point

[@neil876]

Good points

[@brized]

I don't believe that the average split in defensive shooting is 0.50 at all. I've watched thousands of shootings. They're very consistently around 0.20 - 0.25 at around 3-5 yds, and get up to 0.30 and up as the target moves laterally, as the shooter moves, and as distance goes up. A position exit and entry will naturally kick the split time way up. I'd take a careful look at Force Science's methodology. It is very clearly misleading if you have a picture in your mind of people shooting at close range with 0.50 splits. There are tons of badge cam videos now where you can see for yourself that is not true.

[@GunClubRadio]

Hey, thanks for the input! Appreciate you offering such a thoughtful comment and trying to add some accuracy to the conversation.

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

the statistic I was citing was from OIS - per Yong Lee on the Firearms Nation podcast.

[@Qpoueoor]

Shoot the gun you have more and with a timer.

[@GunClubRadio]

yes

[@MrZachzippo]

Bond Arms Bullpup rotates

[@GunClubRadio]

such a fascinating gun. Just watched the TFBTv video on that

[@medor6635]

Man I love your channel! Content value and a real discussion about some of the bs that I see on KZbin about this same topic.

[@GunClubRadio]

so glad you loved it. I'm just trying to learn & have conversations without knowledgeable guys in the community. David is one of the most knowledgeable pistol shooters I know. honored to have him on the platform

[@kagyu1]

I shot a CCW match with a guy who had a 1 of 1 compact ccw Limcat. It was a scaled down Limcat. He was insanely fast .

[@brized]

23:57 Let's take all your splits together for any USPSA field course. Does it make ANY sense to average all them together and present that as your average split time? Take the classifier 23-02 "This could be the Greatest Night of Our Lives". There are at least 3 YT videos of people shooting it to M-class hit factor in just under 6 seconds. That's 12 shots in about 6 seconds. If I said, "according to my study, M-class USPSA shooters average splits of around 0.50", would that be accurate or misleading? That's what Force Science is doing with their figure on average split times in gunfights.

[@zachpetzoldtshooting]

I think averaging them all together is pretty misleading on something like this. If you think about the shooting as .50 splits is what you need then you won’t get it done in time for a good score. When I breakdown classifiers I figure out the time I need with reasonable hits and then deduct everything but the splits and transitions. On this one it would 6 secs minus 1 for the draw and 2 for the movement. That leaves 3 seconds or a .30 average for each split and transition following the draw and movement. So reality is that the shooting part needs to happen almost twice as fast as the average of all splits if the draw and movement aren’t considered differently.

[@GunClubRadio]

thanks for adding to the conversation

[@TheHumbleMarksman]

I picked that number up from listening to Yong Lee.

[@annonymouslibertairian9120]

I am pretty sure the compensated slide with a shorter barrel designs just flat out don't work. I think in order for it to work it has to be threaded onto the barrel, or the barrel is ported itself. Everything just looks cool.

[@GunClubRadio]

± 5 Speed for looking cool

[@JosiahLazaro]

It doesn’t work like a dedicated comp. But on comparison it takes out the bite from a p365xl vs macro comp slide.

[@annonymouslibertairian9120]

@@JosiahLazaro Someone should do a video comparing all 3. But if the gas is escaping through the end of the barrel only, nothing is getting diverted. It's just a shorter barrel.

[@luckynutts5237]

Canik biggest flaw is the ammo my TP9SFx does not like 124 gr

[@GunClubRadio]

You feel they aren't tuned on a wide enough range of loads? have you tried any +P or just the 115 standard loads

[@luckynutts5237]

@@GunClubRadio I train with 124 because that is what I carry. I tried all different brands from sig to speer but when I went down to 115 it ran flawless. Now a friend bought the MC9 it loves the 124 but it jams with the 115

[@luckynutts5237]

@@GunClubRadio I feel like most isn't tune according to the ammo. The average Joe isn't going to know these things

[@GunClubRadio]

Fair enough. and that's correct. the average "gun owner" is going to be very confused if they get a unit that struggles to cycle a common load like 124 or 115

[@Wingmebro]

Good video,a lot of information

[@GunClubRadio]

David brought the heat.

[@josephtardio1086]

Calling every industry and hobby a "space" is cringe.

[@GunClubRadio]

ok Zoomer...

[@josephtardio1086]

​@@GunClubRadio It just shows how much of a social puppet people are.. adopting these terms and thinking it makes you sound interesting because other people started doing it a few years ago. I guess I'd have to be in the KZbin space to get it.

[@GunClubRadio]

I actually get what you mean. Ask my wife 😅 she knows I HATE certain lingo/jargon. But trust me, we aren't using the term to offend your sensibilities. Just the best word we have to describe the wide reaching tentacles of the firearms world. The term Industry sounds so sterile.. almost like corporate.. Community brings a false sense of familial closeness that really doesn't exist at times. just a word. Cheers

[@Defcon_One1]

No wonder nighthawk didn’t pass the drop test

[@GunClubRadio]

wait, what about the drop test?

[@TONY4563084]

1911/2011 pistols modeled after the 70 series can fire if dropped on muzzle due to inertia. Nothing new stop crying. If that scares you sell your shot guns and ar's and ak's they can do same thing😂

[@Leather_Cheerio]

I think the Smith & Wesson 5.7 caliber pistol has a rotating barrel… maybe it’s the 22 magnum I forget

[@GunClubRadio]

that's correct! I'd ask them to test it if 5.7 wasn't so expensive

[@Thomas-vt7cz]

Damn good info guys, good job... 😎

[@GunClubRadio]

thank you

[@Thomas-vt7cz]

@@GunClubRadio You're welcome... 😎

[@derictripp9245]

This channel needs a cheat where the people who have adhd can also get to go right to the point or close enough because this is loosing me ? I bought the hellcat comp pro and this has me worried

[@GunClubRadio]

Here's the cheat code, change playback speed to 1.5 or 2x speed. I personally do this. I also included some chapter markers so you can jump around to the good parts. lastly, TLDR, there's nothing WRONG with comps, just aren't needed and are more prone to malfunctioning if you don't have proper grip. potentially, they aren't as effective they should be and aren't really worth the extra cash because a real comp system is tuned to the extremes. consumer comps are made to run mostly all ammo. Thanks for trying to watch the content

[@derictripp9245]

@GunClubRadio I watched it all I just kept loosing track of what I was looking for ! But I will try n review! Thank you for the fast answer ! I am still always trying to learn it just is a lil harder for well people in my shoes ! So far iv had good luck with the hell cat maybe I got lucky hopefully! I'm still nervous and an not carrying it yet still kinda looking into it more and getting more practice with it before I put 110% into it !

[@GunClubRadio]

I'd say always run 100-250 rounds through it. If you can get outside and under a "shot timer", draw from concealment and put 6 shots on your target. If you can do it quickly and accurately without malfunctions, you're good to go. Just be sure to clean & lube it after that 250 rounds. Need to keep that slide running smoothly to avoid any question.

[@GunClubRadio]

and thank you for watching the whole thing! I'm honored to have you spend the time with us.

[@derictripp9245]

@GunClubRadio is there a such thing as keeping a gun too clean ! As of right now I clean it after every use and if not used every month ?

[@madeintexas1213]

Lol it’s funny how HM scoffs at Smith and Wesson. For the first time in recent memory I can think of is having very small issues, but he’s slobbering all over Sig while also admitting that they use their customers for beta testing😂. What a 🤡

[@GunClubRadio]

Honest question. How is he slobbering when he openly admits the customer base is often frustrated or unsatisfied? Obviously, he has something to say about his bad time with the Carry Comp & the bodyguard 2.0. Don't take this too seriously, friend. Just a couple of guys talking about guns and sharing what we know. You're always free to chime in and let us know if we get something wrong. I welcome it

[@jasongaudreau2075]

So I started in 2022 with a basic, non mos glock 45. Got good with irons, and sloppy glock stock trigger. Added maritime cups for some added reliability. When radiant came out with their fancy $400 barrel/comp combo, I was smitten, but knew comps do the exact opposite of what I want, which is LESS flash signature and less BANG!!! So, I knew suppression was the answer. Came across a deal on a threaded barrel and grabbed it. While saving for a suppressor I came across a deal on pmm’s duty comp and since I already had a threaded barrel, I figured I’d give it a whirl. It was exactly how I imagined, giant fireball in my sight path and loud as hell. Finally got the suppressor and comp sits in parts bin. Then sent my slide to be milled by battlewerx for an eps carry (mrs red) and it co witnesses with own height sights and is just above my Ecco canine suppressor. Looking at Johnny Glocks combat trigger system now and the Glock will be finished.

[@GunClubRadio]

Sounds like you've been on a crash course to in building out the ultimate glock. Let us know how the Johnny glock works for you!

[@jasongaudreau2075]

@@GunClubRadio will do!

[@jamesmaxwell8007]

This guy is full of it. The MHS was chosen by price. Both Glock and sig met the accuracy requirements. The Sig came in 100 dollar less than Glock. They didn't even finish the reliability testing. Sig loses money with every the sell the army and they have to replace them when they wear out. They hoped winning the army contract would boost civilian sales and it did.

[@GunClubRadio]

I think this was an AND/Both situation. But.. if it makes Dollars it makes sense.

[@WN_Byers]

My bad @GunClubRadio

[@GunClubRadio]

No worries.