Tagging Over Murals: *67’s Fight to Keep Graffiti Alive

*67 is a crew of young graffiti taggers in New York. We follow them for a night as they get their names up as much as they can across the city.
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[@Ziontrainism]

*67..anonymous...i get it!

[@struckfire3337]

Yeah just like antifa hides their faces , why ? Because they are pieces of garbage too. These jackasses can come to my property and spray there crap preschool letters on my property. It will be the last time they ever lift a can of spray paint again. I spit on pieces of garbage like these punks. Shame on you Vice for putting out this garbage .. go s*** antifas d***

[@redinstrumental7535]

You and about a million others

[@redinstrumental7535]

@@struckfire3337 Cry baby. 😫😭

[@markusdead96]

@@dertythegrower Wtf, seems privilgied as fuck, unless us Europeans have that shit too

[@LimerGDrem]

@@dertythegrower that's nice info. Thanks bro 🤘👍🍻

[@superunknown2812]

Too me graffiti makes a city seem more alive.

[@64hz32]

Facts if you look at Chicago the city seems so alive and there’s tons of graffiti

[@Lugzexplo92]

Am in canada montreal an graffiti all over i love it it make it alive

[@zhooted5508]

@@64hz32 That graffiti on the low end 💣

[@flakojodye1297]

Only when it’s done right

[@restlessactivity8696]

True, it tells you people haven't gone full robots, there's people that actually enjoy life and live outside the box

[@on2wheels378]

When I was a teen I worked at a local Sherwin Williams on Long Beach Blvd in Long Beach Ca in the mid 80s. The franchise owner would be so angry when taggers stole the spray paint etc. He caught quite a few and had them prosecuted etc. One day we cam in, our whole wall in the parking lot was tagged with a mural of the owner, in his shop apron, running after people stealing spray paint. It was amazing... It was up one day... I wished I had a Polaroid or a camera before he painted it over...

[@ohtebowah]

that's sooo funny

[@potato_memesjr4247]

Long Beach 💪🏼 born and raise love the graff in LA County

[@titzmagee2386]

LBC ALLDAY

[@blindguitarfox]

I would have kept that up of I was the owner.

[@on2wheels378]

@EZ559 Long Beach is IN LA County Lame.

[@31drysmokes54]

For me I personally graffiti for the rush, for the fact I can be driving and see my name somewhere, the thought of people looking at my art and wondering who did it and how it got there gets me excited

[@dimitriisov1262]

No one wonders who did it, most people just get annoyed that someone felt they had to (in their view) destroy a communal good. If everyone made graffiti style murals or things that have a greater chance of being perceived as subjectively beautiful by the observer, less people would be saddened by it. But the use of graffiti for hate crimes, narcissism, and counter culture makes it so that most people see it as property destruction and a sign of crime. Also according to the broken window theory it actually may increase crime rates. You have to realize that architecture is art too, (maybe not mass produced things like signs and predesigned buildings) and damaging someone else's art with your own art is one of the most unartful things a person could ever do, the opposite of free expression. In an ideal world there would be a place where it was ok to graffiti and wasn't hurting anyone's business, but for some people regulation would defeat the purpose and it would no longer be art.

[@gavriilkremastiotis1914]

@@dimitriisov1262 Only taggers wonder who did it, and taggers don't seem to care how they are perceived excluding fellow taggers.

[@HappyHands.]

as long as it is actually artful, and not just a mess

[@longjonhothan6963]

@@HappyHands. which is purely down to interpretation so that doesn't actually matter at all

[@poisoncobra7]

@@dimitriisov1262 if you write on a wall it's not "destruction" it's just altering the appearance of the surface. Imo i love tags and throwies, it's something to look at instead of a blank surface and i enjoy trying to figure out what things say. Y'all never complain about huge billboards and commercials plastered on bus stops, walls etc. But hate on ordinary people who tag their names on the same things, it's something that's deeply engrained on us, cavemen used to do it, Egyptians used to do it, typography is amazing if you learn about it. That being said there are unwritten rules in graffiti and i don't agree with writing on private property, religious buildings, traffic signs or cars.

[@michaelmccarthy4615]

I hope they throw those empty spray cans into the proper trash receptacles for recycling.

[@InTxPredator]

Most do, it's part of the un-written code . Some don't however.

[@kryptichands968]

Hippie writers

[@michaelmccarthy4615]

Taggers for the conservation of plant earth! Go green graffiti artists

[@neurodamuzz4180]

“No comment “

[@hemerhernandez1234]

Recycling is propaganda........ we don’t recycle ♻️ we send it to other countries and they aren’t buying no nore

[@saulsilver1930]

Some of yall havent played "Marc Eckos: Getting Up" and it shows.

[@blindeyesurgeon6576]

That game brings back good memories. Probably played and beat it like 4x

[@YoursTrulyMew]

Exactly everyone getting but hurt and shit, that's how the game goes, getting crossed out is just part of the game

[@SurprisinglyDeep]

1) Its a ****ing videogame, not real life. People don't commit hundreds of random public massacres like in Grand Theft Auto or curb stomp turtles like in Super Mario World in real life 2) Trane was trying to expose the murder of the previous mayor by the current mayor using his art. He wasn't just trying to make himself feel big. 3) The city of New Radius was a dictatorship. Not a corrupt democracy, an actual dictatorship that was a democracy in name only. It had rigged elections and paramilitary troops constantly out in the streets enforcing unjust laws. Trane was graffiting in order to protest the dictatorship. He had an actual legit reason to do graffiti

[@808crypt]

@@SurprisinglyDeep damn bro u took it way too far lmao

[@SurprisinglyDeep]

@@808crypt I know the original post was a joke but some people likely really believe in the "defying gentrification" line of reasoning and make a legit, no joking comparison between that game and reality.

[@poisoncobra7]

I love watching cities covered in tags, throwies and pieces, it's beautiful in its own way and just fits the urban environment, there's something very human about typography and it's fun to see different styles and names. It's the sort of thing where either people love it or they hate it. I never hear people complain about all the huge billboards and commercials on walls/busstops/busses and all the corporate logos with LEDs but as soon as ordinary people tag names on a wall they are demonized, it's absurd imo. I do however think that some writers today should stop painting on ordinary people's properties, and religious buildings it's a bad look. People in the comments, understand the difference between street art and graffiti, graffiti is vandalism but to some can also be considered art.

[@Beatjoy5511]

This perfectly encapsulates the war between street art vs. Graffiti. A lot of people get it twisted but the fact that someone can do street art, have it loved and acceptable vs doing self advertisements and have it hated n illegal is a constant battle we must face

[@UTP_ENT]

Street art is a goofy ass name that can be used to describe anything done in an urban environment….. doing a mural on a building isn’t street art it’s just a mural

[@kojibackupaccount6649]

@@UTP_ENTthat last part was idiotic to say. A mural is both street art and obviously a mural as “street art” is a general vague term. Just like how a portrait is both a portrait and art. Saying a portrait isn’t art it’s a portrait is pretty much what you’re doing but with “murals” its not incorrect to call it either or, but it is incorrect to say it’s not one of either or cuz it’s both. A mural is street art as it’s a typa street art IE, art on the street.

[@jDUB1]

*69 calls back the last person that called you *67 hides your phone number

[@YoursTrulyMew]

People confuse Vandals/taggers and writers with Artist who do graffiti. In its core roots graffiti originated from Vandalism going out writing, tagging throwing up their names trying to find the heaven spot where ones name would stay for years.

[@anthonyfletcher8053]

Tagger or actual artist, if they are doing it on someone else’s property that doesn’t want it that’s shitty and they are equal in mine and many peoples eyes. Graffiti is like gang banging, the only people that give a shit are the ones involved.

[@Stoney-Jacksman]

But generic idiots will be completely fine with sick advertising everywhere being oushed in their vision..ears..everywhere all the time. They try so hard to be normal only out of fear of being abnormal. Step out that silly paradigm sonny.

[@uh8302]

Its all stupid and childish😂😂😂

[@Stoney-Jacksman]

@@tjwoodsman1782 The things is bro..that most people prefer that what they are programmed to be used to. So even if they would spray solely the ads..people will still complain and see it as vandalism. It is so funny how the masses think. Filled with cognitive bias. But I do agree personally..it would even be a cool movement. I myself do it.. i deform an ad whenever I can, and make it some other message.. But its like a drop in the ocean.

[@SurprisinglyDeep]

@@Stoney-Jacksman The advertisers got the permission of the city and/or the people who own the building. Also the advertisers are literally paying people monthly to put up and keep the ads up there. Also if the advertisers stop paying and/or if people demand the ads get taken down, the advertisers can just turn off the tv screen or take down the poster. It takes between hundreds to thousands of dollars to remove a graffit tag or bomb If the graffiti artists just got the permission of the building's owner(s) or just put up posters instead, this wouldn't be an issue

[@brickman6243]

Vice shouldn't do graff vids.. graff isn't for the average vice consumer... graff is for the writers and people who know it.. we don't care if the average citizen dislikes it or has opinions. Your opinions are void.

[@rollaroyce747]

preacjhh but the miami graft doc was sick

[@kringeren]

why shouldnt other people see graff? maybe theyll like it and start too, or start understanding writers and everything they do better and not call cops when they see somebody painting. stop being a gatekeeper and an elitist.

[@brandonrico2230]

Facts

[@thomasiuss8706]

Because of this vid the people eccept it more (Hopefully)

[@amp4105]

@@kringeren because the people that hate on it are upper middle class depressed losers with no hobbies or skills.

[@skunka7338]

Make more vidoes about graffiti

[@BlazeGraffiti]

kzbin.info Check out, subscribe for support, yo

[@siddharthkrishnan3317]

I was wtf when they were painting over murals but then they explained it and I don’t think most people consider that. I like graffiti and murals both but that really opened my eyes.

[@aarontrevino7439]

Yea some graffiti have the respect to not cover them , but some just don’t care

[@DryBreadSlice]

@@aarontrevino7439 U missed the point completely there buddy

[@proceed6714]

Murals are gay and fair game

[@sxewounds]

Rip Zexor

[@anonymoust9402]

He was my favorite his quotes are what I go by now

[@mrfoodskater]

@@anonymoust9402 like which ones

[@rollaroyce747]

@@mrfoodskater when did he die bro?

[@viktorvaugndoom]

@@rollaroyce747 a while ago now

[@MBTAMoreRailfan]

@@viktorvaugndoom like 2y

[@sylezjusz]

Yeah, having to pay for stuff is oppression that most regular people never experienced

[@casperucomejoin]

Fuck you bitch

[@MrMars-cq2vf]

y'all are a bunch of weak losers who feel sorry for themselves due to being a high school loser dropout who ruins actual art. Just punks. You a punk ass too?

[@G_RIMM]

Mr. Mars define art

[@G_RIMM]

Mr. Mars my bad *actual art

[@MrMars-cq2vf]

@@G_RIMM something beautiful that doesn't destroy others belongings. All these hoodlums are is vandals and trash. Ruining paid, appreciated artists murals with their garbage. But... sleezeballs don't care about others hard earned income, only there poverty stricken lashing out vandalism to "show the unfairness of society." Lmfao, no, they are just losers who won't go earn a living or are too stupid to or unskilled to do so. I really can't stand wannabe radicals who think ruining others stuff is some altruistic mission, nope, just vandalism.

[@aewriter]

A crew that started in 2019 😂😂😂 where you find these toys? Must be a friend of someone that works at vice said to their tagging friend, "hey, wanna do a segment on you guys graffiti?"

[@leftyx8]

LMFAO

[@XoNasX]

Especially when they talk about history 3:26 , what history man? you have only noticed that wall for the last year or so :D you call that history?

[@phero5159]

Everyone's a toy stfu

[@nycyabber7103]

These guys are also in crews that are decades old lol. This is just a new crew they started but they're definitely not toy. Every street in Brooklyn has a reazy, bash, or Lance throwie up

[@sotoeddie18]

I’ll beat yo ass

[@rapidfiremuzik_official]

I've never had issues with graff writing, the ONLY issue I have is with the HEAP of amateur mfers who have NO STYLE or skill and go scribbling over others artworks that ACTUALLY look appealing

[@ogee69]

RapidFire Muzik™ amateurs??

[@iMAClikeDRE]

Yeah there’s no need to go over that dope mural... and these guys are toys, at least be ill right

[@superunknown2812]

Yup agree

[@markavalos9149]

I'm assuming you never got your house tag or business

[@SwedeenXBL]

RapidFire Muzik™ I can tell you are so in the dark about graff culture when you throw the word style and scribbling in the same sentence.

[@DuckieMcduck]

6:12 This is called escapism. When you have problems in your life but instead of looking after yourself you decide to distract yourself with a false sense of impact, even if it is just someone getting frustrated cause of you. It won't scale with age.

[@leonbuzza]

Woe eyve bean dewing this

[@nullvoid2001]

shut the fuck up nerds

[@stevenf5902]

Way too general of an analysis buddy.

[@tomogden2432]

@@nullvoid2001 - whatever you say, Internet Tough Guy.

[@dzfh98]

@T Wilson Huge negative environmental impact.

[@pcbuys7281]

90s nyc crews would literally cap these fools

[@Good_Luck11]

well 30 years later we are here. quit livin in th past

[@josephmartinez6715]

As a teen long , long time ago I did freeway bombing that's what we called in L.A and I did for the rush ..... So Addictive .... If you're a graffiti rider

[@josephmartinez6715]

@@joesurfer6571 Street raised me , but I am glad I didn't become a gangbanger like a lot of friends did ,tho kiddo ..✌

[@jamesnubz]

People still do free bombing and it's prolly the best part about SoCal culture on general

[@MharoldBronx]

Straight out the cheese factory 🧀🧀 RIP nyc real shit.

[@brandonrico2230]

You sound like a toy

[@javierescuella9968]

@@brandonrico2230 someones learned a new word

[@HughWalenski]

Graffiti makes the city better, even mediocre stuff, but disrespecting murals, and tagging family-owned business menus, that's uggy.

[@Seraph89_]

5001 50 so these vandals have respect for government funded properties? Of course they do. The places that should be tagged.

[@nllw2]

who cares if its ugly lol not the graff writers WE dont care if its ugly

[@bro-ic7uw]

nllw edgy

[@nllw2]

꧁lol꧂ dont care

[@sottosotto4056]

Please tell me how graffti makes a city better. I can understand the agrument of how murals can make a city better but graffti is literally shitstains.

[@zoul5700]

Yeah bro, why do they have to cover other people’s art? I understand the need to keep their art form alive but that doesn’t mean destroying other art

[@graffseason7887]

Not everyone considers corporate paint by #’s murals art .. also if you listened , they told you that ppl from out of town will not determine what we see on our walls in our neighborhoods.

[@Tuxy79]

GRAFF SEASON boo-hoo

[@zoul5700]

GRAFF SEASON I understand that but that’s not the way to do that.

[@Hayley-kp6wt]

Because theirs isn't an art form. This shits been holding street art back for years. Wouldn't even consider this graffiti, just low effort tags by big ego scumbags.

[@MegaDoomer101]

@@graffseason7887 I'd rather see "corporate by #'s mural art" than this bullshit scratch. The tags aren't even good. Shitting in your hand and rubbing it in something beautiful doesn't make you a street poet who is sending a message. It makes you Huffer playing with your own turds. Fucking idiots.

[@ryanknott1766]

Thank you Vice for this incredible content, documenting the current state of New York bombing. FUCK all the common viewers for the dislikes, any real writer will love this video and that's exactly who this content is aimed at. Shoutout from Cape Town, South Africa. Peace and love

[@billysire360]

Yo u have no idea what u are talking about youngbuck....please stfu if u no zero...these kids are not from ny...u can't come from Idaho and be from ny...clown crew!!!!!

[@benayers8622]

damn str8 they tryina use our rules against us by muraling spots mad love for these guys pointing that out tbh i hadnt rly considered it til now

[@nobo1682]

It's like a dog pissing to have the world acknowledge his territory

[@Chunksgotyou]

But nobody gives af about who they are 😂 fucking clowns, waste their money on paint.

[@michaelmccarthy4615]

My dog sniffs the butt of other dogs he meets while out and about. His way of saying Hi! Have we meet before?

[@hoodzzeee]

If you lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas

[@michaelmccarthy4615]

They said they buy and steal paint....

[@YoursTrulyMew]

@@Chunksgotyou , no shit stupid that what vandals do

[@eazydee415]

Crazy now the taggers teach gentrifiers how to do graffiti here in San Francisco lol

[@slapsone6173]

What a joke

[@TheRastafarianStuff]

wtf is a tagger mane you either a writer or you're just a wanna be graffiti writer with a spraycan and without enough imagination to step up his style

[@jacknelson6010]

Fucking factual

[@mitchelljohnson5544]

1am 🤣🤣🤣

[@e8tballz]

Justin credible u mean the people who built the homes and streets those people walk on? Smh. Don’t get it twisted. Just cuz a lib represents it, doesn’t mean Fran doesn’t have honest people. Dumb statement.

[@MrBizzle79]

These bozos are posers.. I dont respect them especially bombing storefronts with glass that's lame !!

[@zebmars8944]

Guys nothing but losers

[@tobymanuels8805]

pussy

[@hef3281]

idk if it counts for anything but those store fronts are vacant stores, I know the area.

[@theresakim3361]

They definitely do more graffiti than you, you fucking TOY 🧸🧸

[@SuperCal2]

@@theresakim3361 Woahhh there hotshot. No need to diss them THAT hard.

[@wwinky99]

These are the same guys who put “I wuz here!” on the stalls in the bathroom in elementary school.

[@keeperofthef8]

Lol

[@MrSuperVikingo]

Or the guys who would put: for a good time call... 🤣😂😭

[@wwinky99]

OutWriting GRAFF! Lol

[@Cherry-ce7im]

And you dude who calls the cops the cops when they see someone bombing like maybe doing graffiti is better than dealing drugs

[@Y.0o0]

@@Cherry-ce7im lol You must not know about know about graff culture in 2021... drugs & graff go hand in hand.

[@ImTrendArts]

hard to have og throw up but he used JA "a"

[@LeiDontPlay]

Lmao I was gonna say that 🤣

[@youngtre1372]

Which part? I didnt see it?

[@ImTrendArts]

@@youngtre1372 4:12-4:20 ish

[@blindeyesurgeon6576]

"Theres alot of shit that goes along with this that ppl dont know about... Like having to buy paint cans" NO REALLY? U have to actually aquire paint cans to do graffiti? Shit man.. Nobody would have guessed.

[@lioncohen8586]

both this crew and the commenters are smoked out

[@defiantfpv3515]

Gotta do an LA one with this new generation taking on the billboards and freeway walk outs and leveling what the ogs started up!

[@eastsideofthetracks8311]

For real these guys literally only did throwies so easy

[@ericbartolotta6567]

No work tomorrow i guess lol

[@AustinKrz]

wonder why they don't feell good about themselves

[@DAAI741]

Or yesterday

[@jimmywalter4481]

Last time these fools had a job, people were getting paid with schmeckles. Lmao

[@fulltimebomber954]

Ever heard of weekends?

[@fulltimebomber954]

Rogelio Murillo yea my life consists of doing what i love all the time it’s great you should try it

[@mikel8149]

I don’t get why you do it on a store front or over a mural that’s kinda crazy to me.

[@downforanything1265]

mikel he explained it perfectly. Someone doing a mural is going over 30 people that risked there freedom for the art form that they believe in.

[@nllw2]

Don Antonio that shit is pointless

[@kobe0007]

@@downforanything1265 'art', they aren't even good.

[@krampussbe]

Don Antonio just cause vice didn’t document it doesn’t mean it’s never happened. 200 iq logic for ya

[@bosunbay6404]

There’s a difference between graffiti and street art. Fuck street art

[@BigShrdr]

I came back to graffiti after ten years... I have no idea why ive quit, because now nothing feels more vivid and real in this life than going out tagging in the middle of the night with my friends, its a kind of connection i couldn't produce otherwise with anybody else

[@benayers8622]

That Co D bonding loool 😎👍

[@dharmapada]

I guess I don't share the same enthusiasm for this as some. While living in Portland I've seen many murals go up on building walls. Great artist will spend days creating beautiful pieces that add color to the otherwise gray backdrop and bland cityscape. I can't understand why we should be rewarding taggers that come along and can deface these works of art in a matter of seconds with an ugly self absorbed unimaginative crappy tag. I've always respected well executed colorful graffiti art that goes up in random empty places...just tagging over murals is not only ugly, it's disrespectful to that act of creativity. These people aren't artists, they're assholes. How is this cool?

[@TheZigzag99]

Ian g has never had sex

[@HeatherBoo916]

I agree. Plenty of other places to tag up. Why fuck up the murals?

[@diaperwip3]

Fuck these hipster murals, Go put ur murals up in a museum!!

[@danielxhooker901]

Straight facts, this is just pure disrespect and jealousy that he is a shit artist. Tagging is awesome when you have some common fucking decency for other people creativity.

[@gavinhenderson1979]

The streets are for graffiti. Art is for the galleries

[@maxwellmellinger4723]

“They’re stealing the space” hahahahahahahahahahHahahahahahahahaha

[@lucified7107]

USS liberty look it up

[@Clos93]

As a Mexican-American growing up in Texas, on the south side of town we had murals everywhere. Primarily of community leaders and civil rights activist like MLK and Cesar Chavez. Sure there was gang graffiti and stuff, but the taggers had enough *RESPECT* for other people's art and history to leave the shit alone. Something these punks are sorely lacking...

[@secretwow3459]

there is a difference between graffiti and gang writing, graffiti is all about getting your name up, no matter how you do it, rooftops, murals, etc. gang writing is about letting other gangs know your territory. these " graffiti writers " in Texas don't put their name up enough, they just suck.

[@Rashiidsk8]

Carlos Fierro yea like wtf. I keep a few rules abt bombing. Like why would u put a throwie over a good ass mural. The only thing that should ever go over a mural is another fucking mural. This is corny

[@GenX1283]

Another non-New Yorker whose not properly educated on our culture. For starters, one of them said some out of towner painted a mural in their city. That's obviously some lame ass who never paid his dues. I'd go over that shit too if I was still young. Taggers never respect art, especially permission walls. Lastly, you're from Texas. Who the fuck is you to be telling us what graff is all about?

[@yungvarg2301]

There's a difference tho between this and what they tag over. Most of these murals are pure gentrification, they're still a bunch of toys tho lol

[@nielswijngaarden6925]

They are like we do it this way, we do it our way, we do vertical tags others dont, this used to be our wall. How old are you guys? 5 or something?

[@WorldChampInfinity]

Yeah, the comments about how pure the artform was, made my mouth drop with how stupid they sounded.

[@Ryan-es5yp]

hahah I agree. I've never heard such immature shit in my life.

[@ATrashStudio]

Deadass idiots

[@rctrue]

If he doesn't do it he will be left feeling "SOME TYPE OF WAY"...lol Is it me, or is that expression starting to become over used?

[@zisira2469]

Yeah what does that even mean ?

[@log7029]

Zisira it means they feel some typa way

[@zisira2469]

Lög what type of way ? Not very descriptive

[@todd8677]

A bad type of way

[@log7029]

Zisira “some” type of way.

[@micheleszczuplak2767]

If they could spray some cool art and not go over murals like the one they went over with the face and flowers, I'd have have more respect for them. The tagging they were doing was just stupid.

[@tomogden2432]

Ignorant cowards like these don't know the meaning of the word "respect."

[@LittleRainGames]

@Rational Viking yeah, thats bullshit. Only immature kids do shit like that.

[@Studio23Media]

Rational Viking Yeah that's the problem. They need to go see a therapist about their insecurities and leave other people's hard work alone. It's fucking trash

[@arguekayes]

They go over the murals, cos they put some random art over dead graffiti legends that did a mural before

[@ellem1597]

Anita Mooreland-Simms because this is actual graffiti . The stuff u like is street art.2 completely different things .graffiti is vandalism and that’s the way it should be

[@CleanSox]

We did this back in the 90s ...it was fun and dangerous,especially on the trains and billboards...

[@JP-mb2pk]

I did some mushrooms awhile ago, I just kept getting these visions of little pyramids coming up out of the ground with the eye in them. Just had to share because they were just like your profile pic.

[@pooch9068]

​@@dertythegrower big ups

[@SusanDianeHowell]

"By the work one knows the workman." - Jean de La Fontaine, French fabulist

[@singate]

Ive been waiting so long for another documentary! Please do another graffiti documentary!

[@HydraNieves]

I try to do graffiti where it really doesn't bother anyone like abandoned buildings, alleyways, rooftops , highways sometimes. But for people who do this, best of luck get up and get out.

[@MrHasin-tx6fe]

YNRS Kyroひ nice try fbi agent

[@evs251]

@YNRS Kyroひ And you like your own comments lmao loser

[@HydraNieves]

@@evs251 I'm fucking weak

[@MrAlex189]

Yeah!! That's cool and respected! People tagging over murals and huge works of art is bad.

[@wvusmc]

That shit looks no better than what I see on train cars here.

[@jDUB1]

That New York Fast Jazz Hit Different In 2020

[@jonnyincomox]

Of course vice finds the biggest toy's out here.

[@lunaluna6474]

lmaoo

[@jensu7826]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@stevenf5902]

Luna Luna I bet I can make you laugh too cutie.

[@kaycebaybee]

facts lmao

[@jonnyincomox]

@Caleb Ouellette I stopped painting years ago. They got mad ups, but their shitty attitude is what makes them toy's.

[@MrFuguDataScience]

I like murals, but throwing down garbage over murals; pure losers to me

[@blinkercityhiztory]

The unwritten graffiti code: dont mess with anyone else's graff.

[@ottoso7044]

Illegal graffiti always goes over wack legal murals 😭. Y’all know none about graff but are watching a bombin video lol

[@rapidfiremuzik_official]

This trash made me wanna go and watch "StyleWars"

[@coeszila6504]

RapidFire Muzik™ uhc is better

[@memesmoke1206]

Go watch it then . Toy

[@peopleiknow2896]

What a waste.. these kids could be accountants but instead, this.

[@ataxgfx2669]

Wow being an accountant sounds like a thrilling lifestyle, they are missing out on so much!

[@rambozo_fpv176]

@@ataxgfx2669 Just what the world needs. More accountants.

[@filmNFX1]

Accountants produce no value lmao

[@psycho5553]

I first thought they meant the gang 67 from england

[@noyes.]

Free LD

[@redbulljunkie916]

Odi te meant*

[@umbradumont5077]

I'M A GOD IN THE 8 AND I FUCK WITH THE 6

[@erapvp]

3scribz 3asap

[@jonsmith5099]

Nah this America

[@parzivin]

"We don't know why we do it". Maybe for self gratification, prestige, and the high.

[@melbournereviews3660]

None of those reasons it’s just fun lmao

[@211Mik3]

“There using up space”😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@theresakim3361]

If you hate on this, it’s because you’re the biggest toy in the world. *67 is the most up graffiti crew in NYC. Fuck all the haters

[@rust-0hspray156]

McDonald's is up all over the world don't mean it's good

[@walkerheck3533]

That dude bash says you need a unique throw up and then shows him coping MQ’s throw up lmao

[@diaperwip3]

or JA!! Hahaha

[@nllw2]

his throw looks nothing like MKUE go look at pictures of both and compare and contrast

[@cg5774]

you about dumb as shit. what you write fool?

[@walkerheck3533]

Chris Gutierrez check out bigslugs on insta

[@Washed453]

When I travel I love to see all the different styles of graffiti

[@1q1q1q981]

These guys were pretty genuine, people on here hating, pretending to be big time don’t understand the game. Being up in your home town is not the same as getting up in NY. It’s another league.

[@Unseeeen_ms]

Fr cutie

[@Unseeeen_ms]

Mb I meant bro

[@Carlos7Matute]

I just hate when my property gets tagged. Hate to constantly paint over and over again. Its fine but if asked for permission first.

[@HydraNieves]

That's why I try to stay away from hardworking business. You dont deserve to go out and buy the paint yourself. Glad you do have some kind of understanding tho. Peace.

[@SwampGas703]

puahahahaha

[@blindeyesurgeon6576]

Then stop repainting it. Nobody cares for a bland business wall. Let the tags stay. If you think it looks messy or ghetto maybe change ur perspective on it. Art is subjective. Also btw if you keep repainting its just a big GREEN light for taggers to tag ur shit again. Dont disrespect the artist. Whether u see it as art or not, doesnt matter.

[@Carlos7Matute]

@@blindeyesurgeon6576 I owe semi trucks and get called for from business in Long island for the eye sore in their neighborhoods.

[@liquiddinamyte]

Hm,. Usually private property is a no go .. Maybe call out on a professional.. Or b creative yourself..

[@ohtebowah]

yo these guys are unintentionally hilarious

[@JP-fo5kn]

What a set of mugs. All this makes you feel like you're living in a dump. Imagine if someone coloured their home in the middle of the night how disrespected they would feel.

[@lodeaddlux6622]

J P they arent doing houses and peoples home you dunce. Not doing cars or writing on peoples personal hones. Its just city walls and storefronts. Stfu if you know nothing about graff

[@seashore0015]

Shut the fuck up idiot, you dont know anything about graffiti.

[@number1onegoogle73]

Yea I see they tag over what's there already I think it makes it look better than gang signs and xxxx and shit

[@rango3905]

Lodead Dlux stfu dumbass people like you that support these assholes is why Neighborhoods look like dumps. Pissing on shit that ain’t theirs just for clout

[@OhhReaction]

@@rango3905 gotta keep the property value down so pussy ass yuppies from ohio dont move in with their uncultured asses and bullshit street art. Only thing funny about this shit is these outa towners pretending they're from NYC.

[@sicboi]

On the one hand, there are genuine artists and art out of this art form, but these guys are just run of the mill taggers it seems like

[@secretwow3459]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/q52ymnVpraqesK8 watch this and you'll understand why we do it

[@fulltimebomber954]

Who are you to decide what is art and what isn’t? Ole boy

[@yeetlizard458]

Graffiti isn’t art Street art is art

[@Darca1996]

Secretwow345 Mob?

[@walter2440]

@@yeetlizard458 no one asked for your opinion

[@JPTHRICE]

i write for nearly 20 years and his made me cringe

[@cruzil7801]

ik dude there shit dosent even have "style" its low effort tagging over family businesses in a fucking pandemic

[@charlieking650]

What you write? A character on a legal wall?

[@JPTHRICE]

@@charlieking650 yes, for the whole 20 years.. nearly done bro.. 5 more years

[@ljml1982]

I've never seen so many toys come in one happy meal

[@SSlowMotion]

ljml1982 ha

[@rarkerpoberson8448]

cap

[@l.a.basicklab9676]

Smh! These guys need a new hobby

[@hoodzzeee]

Picking up the soap

[@rgw1380rw]

@@hoodzzeee How often do you think about that sort of shit?

[@DanielSmith-br1zi]

Graffiti, unlike street art and murals, has a rich, rich, deep culture, tradition and history since the 1960s in NYC. Bushwick collective/street art is more or less something new that came with the mass influx of out of towners gentrifying brooklyn over the past 14 years. Bushwick used to be a mecca for bombing. Nearly every child growing up in nyc tagged their name up in some way at some point, its so deeply rooted in the culture. People really have some audacity to speak against bombers going over legal murals in a neighborhood that for DECADES was a place harboring some of the worlds illest writers. Its the equivelant to a mom and pop fish fry spot getting driven out of town and all of a sudden the new white kids open up a coffee shop where you can't find a drink for under 3 dollars. Then slowly, the neighborhood changes and no longer caters to the common people, but rather the new kids who are too awkward to mwet their neighbors who lived there for years, and call the cops on the locals for bbq fumes coming thru their windows or kids tagging or people bumping M.O.P too loud. Its downright disrespectful. Bombing belongs because they take the effort to risk their freedom to put up their names. Muralists cant keep up with the sport, the competition, so they deserve to be driven out.

[@amp4105]

Laughable how this only has 2 likes... sad.

[@davidtahang7062]

Clowns was no ethics.

[@LUImusic856]

This is completely against the unwritten rules tf? Gentrification is everywhere. No more genuine self expression.

[@Edfgt]

Baha "unwritten rules" if u dont know about graff then shut up

[@Aidan-Lynch]

there’s a huge *67 and lance throw in richmond va, i had no idea how well known these dudes were until i stumbled upon this

[@IbnFulan]

Lol i was expecting scribz and dimzy

[@captainnemo2150]

Who are those homosexuals.

[@aidencottingham7157]

H H bahahaha same here, this is a whole country off from what I was expecting 😂😂

[@rodthegreat9349]

Legit, just wanted to see that iconic mask

[@deathstroke7394]

Aliee

[@conflictkid0x16]

Captain Nemo shut up ya virgin

[@DarkFighter84]

I think that there isn't many crews doing this anymore as the other people grew up!

[@dougiemontana4815]

Graffiti is an addition, doing it is the buzz, seeing it the next day is the release.

[@youdontcare1872]

true facts!!

[@charm4791]

This is so disrespectful why do they think this is ok or even cool..stealing paint cans and throwing them on the street

[@noAlia5]

then dont watch it, pussy. think about it like this, less crime because ur holding a spray can not a weapon, 2 its not bothering anyone all these tags are on spots that have been tagged before 3 it gives people a fucking job working for the city and cleaning it up... sheep

[@noAlia5]

and if they do spray private property, then who gives a fuck just someone will probably get a raise for cleaning it

[@groznidizajn]

@@noAlia5 yea, let's spend money cleaning after a bunch of bored kids rather than building infrastructure, schools and hospitals and paying people there .

[@noAlia5]

Confusion tell that to the government not me, it shouldnt bother anyone, its just shit tagging. spray over it

[@groudon2868]

Its graffiti. Literally nobody cares if you dont like it. Deal with it.

[@metalface9630]

"Work at till it's so redundant you almost hate it" -truth

[@kaycebaybee]

these guys arent even good could barely show me a decent throw up

[@David5.56]

Yea, they just found these bums in the alley doing toy as fill-ins and decided to follow them around.

[@bosunbay6404]

lol they are not bad

[@charliesconsulting7503]

They terrible, vandalism to its core. No style.

[@rulesR4foolz]

this thread is so troll those throws are fire

[@secretwow3459]

Ok, *karina*

[@Gaidenas]

Mha 0:14 wall is the same one mural guys got kicked out from 😁 (vice vid from few weeks ago)

[@InsaneFame]

Good shit. 25 years late, VICE, but good shit.

[@Chookfeederr]

What’s the jazz they are listening to guys? I’m tripping on mushrooms and there music is really bringing me back down? 🙏🏻 Keep crushing fellas!! 💪

[@gajiji2731]

biggest downsyndromes of the world... I like to waste my time ruining buildings cause.. well uh idk

[@leonardocarapia4634]

Ok you win you're the best most clever dude out there

[@rimer82k]

You tell em' champ !

[@danbogart]

Most people with down syndrome probably still understand these guys are assholes. Don't lump them in with these tool bags.

[@felixmc4981]

Because it’s fun

[@gajiji2731]

Yasmine Zaman ily

[@payehomage6922]

Struggling artist here. I don’t find what these guys are doing to be empowering or cute in anyway. Theres no message being conveyed. They are not awakening the masses. They just come off as spoiled brats, disrespecting the work of other artists. They’ve already been rewarded with a documentary. Soon, they’ll be rewarded with an exhibition or a grant I’m sure.

[@fulltimebomber954]

Stay struggling yuppie

[@payehomage6922]

full time bomber entitled kids get to go around creating ugly graffiti, ruining other peoples work, then get rewarded with documentaries. Bet Someone who looks like me would get arrested on the spot for doing the same, But I’m the yuppie... ok gentrifier🖕🏿

[@fulltimebomber954]

Paye Homage it’s illegal graffiti so obviously anybody no matter what thwy look like would get arrested on the spot if caught by cops, what a stupid attempt at an argument what even is your point?

[@JMikaelian95]

Exhibition? Or a grant 💀💀💀? Bruh. If you wanna ruin your life, you take the painting route, its the most fun 💀💀. Only thing these cats are getting are Fines they aint paying back 💀💀💀💀

[@amp4105]

why did you word this like graffiti writers are putting normal artists out of business? every artist is struggling buddy unless you're famous.

[@torethyen3893]

Wow, they be sooo deep!

[@ATrashStudio]

..... no they aren't lol if you call burnout idiots deep then you need to talk to new people

[@LuriousQtips]

@@ATrashStudio 😐

[@StoneyTony216]

vice peeped tags & throws channel and was like lemme hipster this shit up real quick

[@__Andrew]

I totally get the subjectivity of art... but even then i fail to see how spray painting your name over and over again is art.

[@amp4105]

no one said its art buddy... theres a reason tags are called tags and THROW UPS are called throw ups.

[@darylsmith9318]

Always enjoy seeing Lance’s freights roll through. Love his style.

[@ChlorineInMySoup]

you must not know what style looks like then

[@irishjoe2941]

You guys need to do some more Graff Docs.. Next up Cano the Truck God!!

[@0poIE]

*I know I can't really talk much. But I just fucking love sitting at my PC gaming and watching stuff and keeping out of trouble...*

[@gringolancaster5929]

god bless european graffiti, a place were graffiti and street art live (mostly) in peace, a place were quality and seniority are above that kind of dudes that think that getting up in the streets is putting throw ups on murals, i bet they can't do a Fucking wildstyle. Anyway kinda funny to see theme scared af from a grampa.

[@iimscho]

@3.35 It was Klops right?

[@lilairbender2344]

Yup

[@helo8232]

very bold of you vice. i respect it

[@tylery6352]

Damn that's disrespectful to the artist that was commissioned to do those murals In my opinion

[@nllw2]

who cares they already got paid

[@tylery6352]

@@nllw2 Some people take pride in their work. I'd imagine if I spent time and effort I wouldn't wanna see my work defaced.

[@nllw2]

Tyler Y then hire a security guard tf u gonna do u kno?

[@_inked_out]

@@nllw2 😂 like muralist are rich enough to buy security woow

[@nllw2]

Will Lopez that's the joke dumbass

[@empirevision9873]

They never grew out of that phase.

[@anthonyfletcher8053]

DMT MEDIA BROTHERS aka unfortunately some people never grow up.

[@groudon2868]

Its not a phase. Only toys quit.

[@suckaafree5732]

Only toys quit we lifers ovver here

[@rgw1380rw]

@@anthonyfletcher8053 There was a teacher in my former high school who occasionally still got up.

[@alexandercrush]

They make the place look ghetto. Then the real criminals come and replace them.

[@SurprisinglyDeep]

This is not objective reporting. This "cinema verite" style glorifies the subject matter. You should have shown a reporter talking to them and asking them real questions, not just soft ball questions

[@flatcircleone]

dude shut up

[@flatcircleone]

!? graf is subjective and isn’t for the general public to enjoy unless they happen to have a basic understanding of how letters work and how they can be manipulated/tweaked. People aren’t doing graffiti because they want to follow the rules. it gives you a rush. you can literally take whatever you want out of writing, it’s completely subjective and if you’ve ever felt isolated/otherized it gives you a sense of community/camaraderie that is hard to find (especially for folks on the margins who are directly affected by the gentrification all these ugly-ass murals promote). you’re telling me you’d rather look an ad for a company owned by Jeff Bezos than a dope fill-in? different strokes for different folks, I guess. I dunno what “hardball questions” they could have possibly asked without sounding like complete asshats. graf is for the kids and the cutties and isn’t for brain-dead cnn-watching ass yuppies with black/white mentalities on everything (like you). rest my case

[@SurprisinglyDeep]

@@flatcircleone I said NOTHING about how I liked or disliked graffiti as a whole, merely that I disliked how the reporters hadn't seemed to actually have asked the sujects any actual questions and/or just tossed them softball questions to the extent that it came across as just recording the taggers opinions about themselves. I'm going to respond to every single sentence you wrote, not to antagonise you but because what you wrote could be the artistic, moral, ethical and legal bedrock foundations for the Leaning Tower of Pissa "Dude shut up" Not a real argument. This will not win you any points in debate class at high school, college or university, ever. "Graf is subjective and isn't for the general public to enjoy" Then don't put it on a public building thats currently occupied and/or beinf rented out! Put it on an abandoned building and/or part of a public structure like a bridge and/or a subway tunnel, not a public building where the graffiti could destroy the image of the building that the people renting or leasing have worked so hard to build. If you just do that then your graffiti will be publically tolerated, enjoyed and even respected. Its not the same story if its a currently occupied/owned building. Say for example that someone's made a restaurant that's supposed to envoke a classic boxcar diner, or an apartment building was built as a classic modernist structure. A tag on the front of the building ruins the image they worked so hard to build! (Notice that I said nothing about tags in the alleyway of the building and/or artistic murals or pieces.) "unless they happen to have a basic understanding of how letters work..." Say I enjoy all forms of dancing. Even though I appreciate all forms of dancing, I wouldn't want a dancer dancing in front of my building 24/7 without them even asking me and/or any of the other people in my building how we feel about them dancing there and/or if we wanted them dancing there at all. "People aren't doing graffiti because they want to follow the rules" That's fairly obvious to the vast majority of humanity. "It gives you a rush" Crack cocaine, methamphetamines and amphetamines also gives people a rush. "You can literally take whatever you want out of writing, its completely subjective" EVERYTHING is subjective. Go to TV Tropes page about "Death of the author". "and if you've ever felt isolated/otherised it gives you a sense of community/camaraderie that is hard to find" Isn't the whole point of graffiti that you're competing against other people in the "community"? That being said, why do you feel you have to "permanently" "mark" a building instead of putting a poster or wheat post up there? "(especially for folks on the margins that are directly affected by the gentrification all these ugly ass murals promote)" Why do you believe that these murals promote gentrification? In the Metro Vancouver region of British Columbia Canda, it tends to be the worn down buildings (like the public housing buildings and the community centres) that get murals painted onto them. "you're telling me you'd rather look an ad for a company owned by Jeff Bezos than a dope fill in?" Thats a textbook example of a false equivalency. We weren't talking about billboards to begin with, we were talking about store fronts and the entrances to apartment and condo buildings. Personally I wouldn't care much if you defaced an Amazon bill board ad. Someone's personal owned or rented property is a different story. "I dunno what 'hardball questions' they could've asked without looking like complete jackasses" Just basic ****ing ****. Like 'what motivates you to do this?' and 'do you have anything you hope to accomplish by doing this?' and 'do you think you have any 'rights' to the city, given that you are all transplants from New Orleans that only moved here like 5 years ago at most?' "graf is for the kids and the cutties and isn't for brain-dead cnn watching ass yuppies with black/white mentalities on everything (like you). rest my case" You're coming off as a dumb entitled hipster mofo, you know that right? If you're creating graffiti just to get laid, you lose ANY moral and/or ethical graffiti you might've otherwise had. My parents only got pensions by working 15 years each at soul crushinf government jobs. My biggest issue is that I would probably be defined as a bleeding heart liberal who is so constantly wonder about where I'm in the right or wrong about any given issue that in the future I might possibly develop ulcers stressing about it. I read any obective sounding online newspaper article I can, buddy! You can take your simplistic moralistic judgments about me and shove them into the toilet, you judgmental jackass!

[@flatcircleone]

!? awww did I hurt exclamation point question mark’s widdle feewings!? maybe ask yourself why you’re responding to a reply to a comment you made FIVE DAYS AGO on a video about graffiti and ask yourself why you care so much.

[@flatcircleone]

classist ass pete buttigeig ass neolib fuck

[@pt-dg7yu]

u see *67, btm, us, and lne everywhere here

[@blankface_]

Word

[@sippinsyrupasusual1498]

Best video by Vice ever. You guys found real vandals doing real vandalism. Thank you 🙏

[@meechie9z]

This is art but if the point of the video went over your head it says more about you than them

[@benlikeswave1773]

I love it when vice does a video on graffiti or skateboarding I would like to see them do one on surfing

[@BLAZENYCBLACKOPS]

Dang saw that Trake tag in the beginning, old school.

[@minorcek]

I started writing in 07 as a young dumbass. Went to jail for the first time the very next year like a dumbass. When I joined my very first crew that wasn't full of a bunch of toys I was banned from going on runs like these guys with their preschool-shit-fills looking throwies. The only reason I got in was because I'm family from the neighborhood and I did have to put in some work on a bunch of heaven spots, freiters, ect. to do so but the OG told me to work on my craft *as we do not just shit on peoples walls* . So I did. I studied all the elements of hiphop. I chilled at the art shop. I painted a bunch of mural spots. I had a legal wall at my house where (still feel lucky) a bunch of OGs would come roll a few up and paint for hours, just teaching me the history, the love, technique and how to find your own distinct handstyle. It wasn't even until but a few years ago that I reached a level of confidence where I'm like 'yeah I definitely ain't shitting on walls anymore' but I'm oldernow and my leader/childhood best friend was murdered last year :/ Graffiti is so near and dear to my heart but I'm just trying to figure out the correct way to keep it alive..maybe start a youtube channel or something. All I know is *these clowns love to paint but that's all. They are a bunch of vagrants who've got some practicing to do, as far as I can see for now* yeah you can get up. Big deal, you angered a bunch of locals. Get a job andcome back when you can impress me Bunch of *toys*

[@neverhappy8957]

You're a piecer then? Dont care, ill go over you just cuz its fun

[@minorcek]

@@neverhappy8957 and I'll charge your girlfriend money for my ability to actually paint decently. You have fun making something decent look like shit. People admire that. You'll go far in life.

[@neverhappy8957]

@@minorcek 1) my girlfriend broke as shit. 2) pal u got mad real quick, vandalism's more fun than painting, just sayin. being a dick to high end artists is the shit, im not gonna go over something thats withstood the test of time. if you got payed to paint a wall, im dissing it, if you asked too paint on it for free, ill ignore it.

[@_emarqz]

S/O to my AMB brothers Nahyo and Lance!keep crushing!!!!