27 Ebikes VS ONE STEEP Hill!

This is every electric bike I've reviewed attempting to climb the 20% grade hill at the start of my ebike review. If you want to find a good hill climbing ebike at an affordable price this video should help you see which ebikes are good hill climbers and which are not. I measured this hill with a good old tape measure and the hill percent grade formula. Grade is not the same as angle in degrees, they're slightly different. Rest assured this is a relatively steep hill for any electric bike to climb and it's a good indicator of the ebikes torque from a stop.
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[@courtneykachur9487]

Dude, you need a chart or spread sheet. The data you probided was so scattered i have NO IDEA which ones passed or failed

[@TailHappyTV]

I’ll consider that, I mean, the video literally shows exactly what happens for each bike here 😆

[@courtneykachur9487]

@@TailHappyTV Sure, however without a notepad, and pausing to take notes, (and to try to understand some of the garbles words) it is hard to tell.

[@garrettlopez915]

@@courtneykachur9487nothing is stopping you from watching and making the spreadsheet yourself? 🫨

[@bigploch]

It would be sooo helpful to compare. Ranks from weakest to Surron. And also 0-20 times. Great videos!

[@Twinnzllc]

Don’t be such an entitled modern woman that you expect him to do it all for you. Why don’t you take the notes yourself

[@SS-ln3dg]

Hill climbing ability is a super important aspect for many. Wow!!!! Incredible to see the wide array of results. I love this, thank you so much for organizing these for us! :)

[@TailHappyTV]

thanks for watching!

[@Seeking2FindBalance]

I appreciate your video's! They are very helpful in deciding on an e-bile. A chart at the end of the video showing the stats on all the bikes would be fantastic.

[@TailHappyTV]

I hope you find the truth here TruthSeeker, thanks for the suggestion!

[@toolate6971]

Bro! This hill-climb test is GREAT!

[@jadecalamityjadis4263]

Love your reviews!

[@petehart5622]

This is an excellent channel. I love the way you test ebikes & do so many! Thanks!

[@Commoncents1000]

Just took the 2024 Wired Freedom up a 21% gravel pipeline road grade. 300 feet elevation in 1/3 mile. PAS 5, and I was pedaling moderately. It ripped me up the hill. Motor did get to 280 degrees, warning indicator started flashing, but made it. Cooled down fairly well once i hit the top.

[@cumminsdieseljeep97]

Finally an honest ebike review!! So nice to see real results

[@nos2142]

I'm looking at purchasing my first ebike .Very informative video

[@jsail4fun2]

I just went to REI to look at e-bikes and they had the Cannondale Tesoro open box on sale for $2k. The bike checked all the boxes. Good equipment including a Bosch mid drive with torque sensor, hydraulic brakes and shemano derailleurs. But I live in a very hilly area and right away I was very disappointed I can’t even ride the bike around my block. Since we can’t count on the power rating, how can we tell which ones climb hills? I’d much rather have a bike that can help me climb hills even if the range and max speed were low.

[@ginginthing]

All your reviews are helpful to me, a first time ebike buyer. I would have liked to have seen two of the most powerful lower cost ebikes on the market now, the Ariel Rider Kepler 52v, and the WIRED Freedom Ebike 60v. Hope some day u could do a comparison review on the hill climb ability of these 2 bikes. The reason I need power is that I live in a area full of small steep hills of 20 degree inclines 50 to 100 yards long or more. 30 years ago when I moved here I brought my peddle 12 speeds and didn't have the strength to ride around here or get out of this subdivision and come back through it to get to my home. Now I'm 76, 200 lb and 6'2" and still want to ride a comfortable and powerful new tech ebike that can get me out of here and back with low effort.

[@NismoMercury]

I know this is old but how is it having a e-bike? Im about to be a first time buyer too

[@ginginthing]

@@NismoMercury I don't have one because none had the power required for me (220 lb) to get around my subdivision hills. But now it looks like Wired may have the answer. Well kind of. The new motors have over 3000 w burst power on their 1500w motors. Along with the dual batteries, this bike has the power to do these hills. I think ECell 5Star is just behind them on power (2400w peak) but only one large 20 amp battery. But both seem to be having some problems with wobble under certain loading and speed conditions. Both are the same price when u consider shipping, but the extra big battery on the Wired is more attractive to me. So now, I'm sure both companies are working to solve the wobble problem, other then tightening down the stem bolt to make it very hard to turn the front wheel. That's a BS fix if I ever heard one. Seems like they would have known about this problem before they took people's money and shipped the bikes.

[@vigilant_1934]

@@ginginthing From what I've seen, E-Cells doesn't wobble much with only one battery on it. Wired can wobble with 2 batteries since the extra battery on the back raises the center of gravity a bit. Either bike with one battery should be OK especially if you're not going over 30 mph. Of course do your research but that's my opinion so far. I've talked to customer service at E-Cells as well as the owner and they do try to help you out. Their bikes are too big and heavy for me though since I still need to take the bus and my bus bike rack has weight and tire size limits.

[@sunnydays3476]

Love ur videos. great stuff thx 🙏🏼

[@TailHappyTV]

Love ur comment. great stuff thx 🙏

[@formattester6]

i was a bit lost for awhile in this video as to what bike was the hill test but eventually got it. i appreciate these very basic test challenges for each bike. some of the time the specs are and indicator of how well it would climb your 20% grade but not all the time. i have a Lectric EXPedition with a 750w motor, 1310 peak watts and 85nm torque. some of your bike with similar torque failed the hill test. so i ask what is the biggest contributing factor on successfully going up a hill? peak power? torque "nm"? its not clear to me that simply judging the specs that we can predict which ones will climb the hill. thanks for you reviews!!!

[@chompchompfood]

Here's a summary of the bikes in the video that actually made it uphill without any issues or resistance-easy-peasy (not in any particular order). Several other bikes made it uphill in the video but definitely struggled so those don't count in my book. Enjoy. You're welcome. Himiway cruiser Magicycle cruiser pro Velotric Nomad 1

[@arunthebuffoon4554]

You forgot the hovsco hovalpha, the lyric voodoo

[@CarlosAlejandro.-ke6gr]

This video is gold for me because i live in a zigzaging 600 meter hill with a inclination of about 15 degrees, to worsen all im pretty tall an heavy so i guess i need AT LEAST a 750 watt e bike if not a 1000 one.

[@charleswhitewolf1949]

Love the vid, almost got josen q7 but I'm in a hilly area. So you can only imagine what you saved from. I did notice you don't have a review on the fucare Gemini X. If you do happen to get one and do a review would you mind tagging me in it?

[@jeremypresgrave1488]

any suggestions on what bike will be best for me to use on mountain trails. with semi steep hills.

[@Billy-cs4cc]

Hi. The bike @ 45 sec, can you tell me the seat name if possible plz and thank you.

[@kennerayzom6188]

This is a review we need. These manufacturers dont think about the hill climbing capability

[@jamesquinn8558]

I own a Qualisports Nemo. The reason being weight as I live in an old converted into apartments school building. So long wide stairs to climb. Still I’d like to see it tested on hills given it’s smallish motor 250w. I’d like to hear your opinion if you get a chance.

[@vanana1721]

how in rainy days which is the best for commuting to work?

[@stephenfalkiner2006]

A summary of the results from best to worst with prices would be helpful. am the same height but a little heavier than you so some more comments on sizing/comfort would also be appreciated. Keep up the good work!

[@trevorm4612]

Agree fully with this comment so go ahead and do it yourself. But when you do please post it for my ease 😊

[@Twinnzllc]

Please let us know when you have that spreadsheet ready. Thanks

[@Crozz42o]

I need a bike that can handle a monster hill, there and back for at least 3 days a week… any recommendations???

[@texanusa111]

Great review can you start to include stopping on a hill then restarting. I got a belt and not a rear derailer wish I had now. I cannot restart on a hill

[@Kangsteri]

This is a topic that should be more talked about. Most people seem to really need only torque. It's easy to pedal without any assistance on flat and downhill, even with heavy weight. It's usually quite simple to change sprocket size for more torque and less speed. I'm currently building high torque El cheapo mid drive conversion. Budget for the bike is about 150€ with 24v 350w DC kit + 36v battery (10s 6p) 250€ + 200w solar trailer 300€ :)

[@Billy-cs4cc]

I have a bike that's 36v. It's name is "Inergy". It goes 20mph and about 20 miles of range. Any idea how to get more range out of 36volts? I'm not sure of the amp hr.

[@Billy-cs4cc]

Thanks

[@Kangsteri]

@@Billy-cs4cc It depends. It's all about the amp hours. The industry standard is 10 Ah and it gives around 20-30 miles, depending on driving style. External battery is more easy to upgrade. But easiest way for that might be to double the range, just by adding another same size battery in parallel (positive to positive and negative to negative).

[@Billy-cs4cc]

@@Kangsteri Thank you

[@TailHappyTV]

thanks for your comment! good luck on the build, hope to start customizing some of these bikes soon to boost performance etc! building and tinkering with you're own ebikes is the most fun part probably

[@F34RTHED34DMAN]

You should do some sales/giveaways of that storage unit full of old bikes! Could be a great way to grow the channel or make a charitable contribution!

[@mrdarenkumar]

Great Videos bro. Have you tested any mid drive fat tire ebike on this hill yet?

[@TailHappyTV]

My 72v surron 😜, I should have some mid drives coming soon. All mid drives should be able to eat this hill for breakfast, I would think anyway

[@freeman8487]

So many many bikes i cant handle so much options. I have a litle wife 160 cm. Can u advice which bike will be good for her? She need something strong cause we would like ride whole family of any roads, i dont want that any hill will defeat her. She has some problems with spine, and knee, so i am looking for bike which she just enjoy any kind of bike trip. First i though that engine pro could be perfect, but after this video i am disappointed.

[@jimmyjames8736]

Nice video. Subscription worthy. One extra thing to keep in mind are the torque ratings for hub motors are supplied by the hub maker and was measured at rated power. But when the bike maker puts a 22a controller with 48v on their "750 watt" hub the continuous rated power is just 11a with nominal wattage of just 528w. Many bikes never achieve the hub makers torque rating due to undersized controllers.

[@TailHappyTV]

absolute truth, it really all comes down to what the controller can pull from the battery which can be limited by the cells discharge rate, bms, or controller. I'll continue publishing reviews showing the true capability of bikes, not just what the spec sheet claims

[@user-cd9bu2qu9w]

Appreciate the info. Your info shows the continuous power from a 22 a controller is 11 a. So when calculating continuous rated power from a controller, does one always derate the amperage draw by 50%? Or does it vary by controller/motor?

[@jimmyjames8736]

@Ann Durango Yes, the vast majority of hub motor controllers have a continuous power rating that is 50% of peak power. The controllers have a label on the case that lists their peak and rated amps separately.

[@maxmarrero-sb5ej]

Wow , those mid-drive motors are unbeatable.

[@Mercstar]

Excellent! Now do a top speed one just like this.

[@thebeddoctor4273]

Does anyone have a Cannondale speed? It's near impossible to find reviews on it

[@dreb2g]

Thoughts on the quality and performance of trek allant 7

[@ben12583]

Some model suggestions for a hill climbing ability review: Euphree City Robin X+ and Fabulous Trail Step Elite. These are very credible non-fat-tire ebikes. Except for Velotric Discover 1, you seem to avoiding reviewing the narrow tire ebikes. Some of us live in hilly places but mostly travel rural roads and don't want the fat tire experience, preferring a more nible bicycle-like ebike instead. Can do? Please? Pretty please? I've really appreciated your tough hill climb challenge for each bike you review.

[@Frisher1]

Well most of his reviews are payed by brands, if those brands do not want to sponsor him, unless he pays for the bikes himself, he can't really review them

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

I wonder how my 1500w custom built mountain bike would perform on that hill test you do. I've got a 10% gradient hill near where I live and it gets up that throttle only at 17mph.

[@notbubbsh]

Hey, do you think E-scooters can handle steepness or is it preferable to base it torque of your bike?

[@TailHappyTV]

Almost all of the dual motor electric scooters can, check out my other channel Juiced Joyrides, I review a lot of Scooters on that channel

[@albertmanzo9510]

Super real life test on these underpowered bikes!!!!

[@petewhite85]

I'm 70 and moving to Missoula. I'm looking for an ebike for grocery runs and some steep gravel trails in town. Suggestions? What do you think about Quietkat? mid drive? direct drive? hub drive?

[@chompchompfood]

Himiway cruiser is a Class 2 e-bike that made it uphill in the video. Class 2 is legal for riding on sidewalks in Missoula so this might be a good one to check out.

[@petewhite85]

@@chompchompfood Thanks. 6 months ago I bought a Rad Rover 6 Plus and am very happy with it. I discovered that Missoula is fairly flat so I rarely go beyond PA 2. I even had a custom mount of the rear basket I saw on Pop Rivet channel. Thanks though.

[@danjohnson7289]

Can you review the pedal core and pedal AWD? They're a company local to LA, and the shop is around Washington/Lincoln. You can test ride for free. Curious how they compare to everything you've tested out

[@TailHappyTV]

I actually rode this bike and made a video on my other channel last year, kzbin.info/www/bejne/oH3QpGSpqLGFf8Usi=ajaBZvGvvMJ5pOkA

[@simontemplar1566]

hi, why don't you try the EKX X21?

[@paulwood7684]

What a great video this is, I wish somebody in England would do this test on a steep hill with a laughable 250 watt motor ( The Law) it would put a lot of people off buying an electric bike and wasting their money

[@dariel6628]

Have you done a review on the Magicycle cruiser pro or just the deer?

[@TailHappyTV]

Yes I've done the cruiser: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3azc6iYjbyJmrM

[@keith5300]

Or a biktrix xd 2300 watt mid drive 300nm torque or Biketrix ulta duo 3 1000watt 160nm torque . Either one would climb that hill and take off like they were on level ground . Try one . Take off on level ground and then try the hill , you won’t notice a difference .

[@kbgking7921]

It appears the Magicyle is the one to get for hill domination correct?

[@TailHappyTV]

Velotric Nomad 1 in my opinion, reviewed it on this channel

[@williamborodati4564]

I have like 27% grade hills or maybe stepper, how well would your top model handle this?

[@bobikbobikowy5458]

750w mid drive bafang kit would do it probaby but 27% is veeery steep. I guess gears in any ebike wont like it

[@williamborodati4564]

@@bobikbobikowy5458 Ty

[@anthonytardibuono1628]

would love to see review of Gotrax Tundra

[@Louis-ji3sn]

I recommended that Freesky send you a Himalaya e-bike for review, Louis.

[@michaelavento2128]

I think the only thing we should know if one can climb or not, is the motor power not the ebike brands. Like 250W, 400W, 500W, 750W, 1,000W 0r 1,500Watts. Thanks.

[@jamesbenot4475]

i don't think any bike in this video is okay. The BBSHD would do much better on such an easy climb. Are these even e-bikes? What e-bike slows down up a hill?

[@pinkfloydhomer]

No mid drives?

[@johnhigh2348]

Do you have 36 V 500w battery T plug input thank you

[@TailHappyTV]

Never heard of it

[@johnhigh2348]

@@TailHappyTV thank you

[@az9az9az9]

You need mid drive motor that has gears. Right gear will give you a lot of torque because motor can go to high RPM.

[@AndreBrowneCycling]

I've owned a few e-bikes, but the M340 is by far the most stylish and eye-catching one I've ridden.

[@TailHappyTV]

The tricycle?

[@phant0m597]

That’s an interesting opinion. Not many out there find trikes very attractive!

[@kelvinfilyk3413]

I believe Chariot is the more accurate term

[@bryonfrees7583]

Looking for Ariel rider Kepler video see what you think need a rating man kinda my first choice not sure yet

[@TailHappyTV]

I really wanna try one, seems Ariel is too 😎 to talk to creators these days

[@henrychen5961]

Bro can you add the specs like Nm and important shit like that in the text when you introduce the bikes?

[@TailHappyTV]

Usually, I don’t bother saying what they claim on the website, rather I actually review and show what the bike can do

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

very cool video brother!! I think you need to go ahead and spend some cash .. Get you an Ariel Rider Kepler.. A Wicked bike and a couple dual battery Wallke bikes.. Maybe a Amp Rides folder. Just sell them later👍 Easy for me to say right?😂 My Kepler shows 46 mph rear tire lifted. You should be able to rent out these bikes and sell bikes for just a hundred or so less than you paid if they only have a few miles on them. You are a vlogger testing bikes and buyers can get a bike with all the bugs worked out.. Free assembly and info if they watch your videos.. You won't lose much selling bikes or renting them out for a few days.

[@TailHappyTV]

Space is the real problem here in west LA paying well over $3k/month for a shoebox. I'm already renting an extra storage unit just to have breathing room here 😆 but don't worry, this spring/summer is going to be 🔥🚲💨⚡️

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

@@TailHappyTV Need to rotate some bikes I think.. Sell a half dozen.

[@michellemcginnes7832]

I had a little trouble getting this delivered kzbin.infoUgkxn_jUDSlprMIeubd9rHdEAnv59nKfjcKv and eventually had to pick it up from local UPS location, but customer service was really nice and helped me get it before the estimated delivery date. They even gave me a partial refund for my trouble. Thanks Paige! The actual bicycle is just as advertised, and had no damage or scratches. This is an excellent commuter bike for most people. I did a few modifications to make it even better for me personally. I added fenders from my old bicycle. They weren't for disc brakes, but after adding longer bolts and about an inch of spacers the supports no longer interfered with the brakes. I like to pedal HARD and go FAST, so I switched the chain rings to Vuelta Corsa Pro Crankset, Black, 175mm 53/39T Square Taper. This has longer crank arms too, so its kind of 2 upgrades in 1. The front derailleur had to be readjusted so it would stay on only the 2 chain rings until I get a different shifter. I also switched the cassette to one with 11T high gear and a larger low gear. With larger gears on the front and back I also had to get a longer chain. I probably couldn't race this bike unless i got a different cassette with gears closer in size relative to each other, but I can still go plenty fast on flats and downhill while still being able to climb steep hills. For going to and from work and the grocery store this is a great bike. It even looks good. I also added a rear rack and panniers for grocery trips. Now it has great storage capacity especially paired with a backpack. Very happy with my purchase.

[@jamesstubbs4978]

No p hilodo h8. It did awesome on your video

[@Sodisna]

What are you opinion on lectric bikes?

[@TailHappyTV]

They’re similar to Engwe, which is in this video about half way thru if I remember correctly. The Engwe has Regenerative brakes, not sure if the Lectric does. Need to review one soon, they’re popular for sure.

[@jimmyjames8736]

@@TailHappyTV Lectric uses geared hubs. Only direct drive hubs can do regenerative braking. And regen isn't very effective on ebikes due to a lack of mass and a lot of aerodynamic drag. Lectric ebikes are my common recommendation to friends looking for a first ebike. I know of equivalent bikes that sell for less but the Lectric is well known and will be easy to sell if they decide to upgrade to a fancier ride.

[@TailHappyTV]

@@jimmyjames8736 until recently, direct drive hub motors were the only ones that could do regen breaking, however, there has been a technology breakthrough that is trickling into the market. I currently have two gear hub motor electric bikes that are capable of regen braking, one of which has brake lever activated regenerative braking rear hub motor, it’s pretty neat review will be posted soon

[@jimmyjames8736]

@@TailHappyTV I will look forward to seeing it. I like regen braking on direct drive for quiet and smooth braking. It will be interesting to hear what a gear motor sounds like trying to regen.

[@TailHappyTV]

Engwe Engine Pro Review - REGEN Brake on a Folding Ebike! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJXJmJ-tr816aJY This bike is a geared hub with Regenerative brake

[@dougcloss3889]

great channel maybe you could give me some advice. looking to purchase 2 ebikes one for me and one for my beautiful wife, im 5 foot 11 275 lbs and she is 5 feet tall 145 lbs. mainly road trips about 25 miles at a time maximum $ 1500 per bike budget we live in canada but will be shipping bikes to portugal ebikes very expensive in portugal any feedback would be greatly appreciated

[@waynerhea6649]

If you don't care about the size of the bike my himiway cruiser has still been a great bike and the range for the price and power u get is great especially for a big bike like that. You do need some muscles to move the thing around but once moving it's been great and everyone ask about what I'm riding.

[@boialkleptopod9165]

I got a cheap thousand dollar bike off of Amazon with apparently no website, it weighs 130 pounds, I'm 170 pounds and it rips up hills like this at 15 mph with no rollout... so far with only 250 miles on this bike I haven't regretted a single thing about this purchase.

[@boialkleptopod9165]

A lot of these bikes go up this hill like my bike with me and another rider on the back of it. I would really recommend the bike I got off Amazon even though it feels kind of sketchy to purchase something that has NO website that I could find

[@ithildiess8305]

This is nothing compared to some hills i ride up. Yikes kinda scared of getting an e-bike now.

[@keith5300]

Test a biktrix 1000 watt mid drive 160nm torque instead of all of those toys u tested

[@shaughtup7554]

No Aeriel Rider bikes? Why not?

[@TailHappyTV]

They won't reply to any of my emails, but I have a friend who has an x-class, I'll see if I can get that on the channel soon.

[@Rickristian]

The list please.

[@shellyscholz1256]

Now I don’t feel so bad about getting angina on a three quarter mile hill like this. I’m slowly getting to know the people who live on the hill as I sit there trying to catch some energy to get to the top of the hill.

[@TailHappyTV]

😆 this comment is hilarious, forced social breaks!

[@shellyscholz1256]

@@TailHappyTV So far they’ve all been nice people. Usually three stops per climb. The dogs of the unoccupied homes aren’t so friendly, but they also can’t get to me. Always an adventure!

[@soyboy899]

i got a bike with a bafang m620 1500w motor, it flies up the steep hills, given you use an easier gear

[@nolanr1400]

Which gear on a 20% steep ?

[@soyboy899]

@@nolanr1400 20% you can accelarate to 30mph with pedal assist, and 30% again you can fly up 30degrees from speed of 0 to speed of like 15mph in just a few seconds, combining motor and pedals, it does drain the battery fast, so only use the full power when needed, I got up to 37mph speed on a flat, with mountain bike tyre 2.6 x 29 inch, with road bike tyres 40mph shouldnt be hard to achieve, and this is a 48 volt motor controller, you can also buy 52 volt motor which will have another 200 watts of power, without needing any tuning, that should get you close to 40mph without even pedalling i think... with pedalling im guessing like 41 or 42mph but you need a big enough chain ring so you are not ghost pedalling... like 46T and 29 inch tyres, my bike has 42T and I can reach 37 mph, while pedalling still adds a little bit of power... would need at least a 46T to get up to 40mph with a 29 inch wheel... and 11T on the rear cassette... you can get a 46T chainring for bafang m620 but it is a fatbike chainring, so it looks different..

[@michaelbathurst7871]

I have a NCM venice, 250w hub motor, 48volt and 13 amp battery, delivers 624 watts power….i can get up this hill no worries

[@TailHappyTV]

nice! happy riding :)

[@Rickristian]

Give us the list.

[@damienblack1734]

I'm just wondering why you're only showing cheap bikes but not the more expensive brands like Specialized, Giant or Trek?

[@yazuak]

@damienblack1734 maybe because those bikes tend to have mid drive motors which can easily climb hills, but also tend not to have throttles so pedaling is required.

[@nomars4827]

That quiet ridiculous that a top sportsmen can make about 700 W for a few dozens of seconds but these 750 , 1000 ,2000 W motors are much less powerful in comparison. And you need much more to make this hill climbing easy

[@kjjosker]

Man buns are the mullets of the 2020's

[@thetrollbasher]

If you want a hill climber, just get a front wheel conversion kit. as long as the motor is 1000w, 1500w or more. 48v

[@scotthillman7393]

Velotric Nomad 1-1200 watt power!

[@Edward-Norton]

Why no mid drive bikes? I thought they were known for hill climbing.

[@TailHappyTV]

There was one in there, more coming to the channel soon. Hub drives are less expensive and most people choose them for there economical benefits.

[@difflocktwo]

Mid drive too expensive and wears the drivetrain.

[@KalJoao]

Instead of such a short test just come over to my place in San Francisco. The hill we ride every day is 6 blocks of 31.5% grade, lol.

[@andr27]

this lil one garage climb utilize like 40% battery capacity

[@thelastneenja]

Seriously, why wouldn't you organize your results at the end of your video in a list from best to worst. I'd also suggest doing a better job of standardizing the test and your analysis. In some of these you start assist pedaling and others you turn to reduce the grade. There is clearly a more granular set of results than "yes/no up the hill". Some didnt even make it 10 feet, others failed at the very top. People want to know and compare these differences. WTF why would you do all this work just to fail so hard on sharing the results effectively.

[@didibus]

Be nice to have a section that lists which did better to worse.

[@TailHappyTV]

good idea

[@Twinnzllc]

Please let us know when you make that list for us

[@Sensible-Immigrant]

90% of the brands are not known to me. You have to pedal to be able to generate power right

[@johnsheetz6639]

I think all of them would have did it with maybe a 10-ft running start.

[@jaderainhans9095]

i wanna buy the annioki aq177 XD

[@georgekrpan3181]

That's where a mid drive is better, provided the gear selection is appropriate.

[@TailHappyTV]

mid drive motors are definitely better for hills (and many other things too) there actually is one mid drive motor bike in this video @7:43 and you can see it obliterates this hill (and pretty much anything), Problem is they typically cost a lot more so most people go with hub drives. This is just a roundup video helping people concisely see a bunch of inexpensive hub drive motors ability to tackle a pretty steep hill so everyone knows what they're getting before they click buy.

[@georgekrpan3181]

@@TailHappyTV The mid drives are nice because you can shift down for hills. But, they fall on their face in higher gears. They need to rev high to make power and must be kept in a lower gear. The problem with that is that the crank speed is too high for you to be able to contribute with your legs, there's no pedal resistance. What's needed is a motor that delivers it's power at low revs without overheating. A physically larger motor with larger magnets. Cheers.

[@krisihde2316]

What's your favorite e bike?

[@georgekrpan3181]

@@krisihde2316 None. Mid drives are a bitter disappointment. In actual use they are no better than a hub motor because the don't have the power to turn the higher gears. Waiting for a manufacturer to address the problem. You don't need high wattage, you need a motor that makes peak power at low revs.

[@Edward-Norton]

@@georgekrpan3181 I'm not understanding what you are saying. I have Bafang bbshd that will peak at 1500 watts. It's geared for torque instead of speed with 30 tooth front sprocket and I can easily hit over 30 mph. If I put a 44 tooth on the front it could probably do closer to 40 mph if I had enough flat straight ground. The pedals are useless going that speed.

[@omg7vn379]

So a 350watt won’t ever climb my hills 😭

[@egnw0]

This video came up when I searched lyric graffiti but don't see it here

[@TailHappyTV]

It’s in there, somewhere in the middle

[@egnw0]

@@TailHappyTV Much appreciated! I have a graffiti since last year and rode it in late summer/fall last year and thinking maybe i'd make it up that hill but would still struggle a bit from a stop. I'm 150lbs

[@TailHappyTV]

@@egnw0 dang you actually own a graffiti? I didn’t know that they were shipping them. If I remember correctly from the full review, I did on this bike it just kind of struggles at slow speeds because of the direct drive motor, generally, they just don’t have as much torque as geared hub motors, but that Lyric really has a lot of power in the mid range.

[@egnw0]

@@TailHappyTV That is true. Lower end it has a small torque curve and then gets really strong in the mid range. I think for safety reasons it was designed like that but it would be nice if there was another map you could switch to for example called hill climb that would send more current faster in the beginning on level 9.

[@Datacorrupter234]

so it appears an ebike would be of no use too me

[@klove5765]

When you live in San Francisco or Pittsburgh power is all your interested in, so don't waste your money

[@nolanr1400]

Wrong. TORQUE is all you're interested in. Not power

[@klove5765]

@@nolanr1400 when a vehicle can't get up a hill people usually don't say it's not TORQUE enough, they usually say it's not powerful enough

[@nolanr1400]

@@klove5765 Yeah that's how we would say it. But technically torque matters more than power. Power will bring you up hill faster... provided you ever took off which is not certain if you don't have enough torque. Torque will bring you up hill maybe at one mph but it will

[@cadriver2570]

timestamps...

[@mikemanzolina9237]

Really not a good comparison. Without specs and price no way to get a real feel for actual quality per dollar.

[@TailHappyTV]

I have a full review of each of these bikes on my channel, that was supposed to be just a quick round up, showing their hill, climbing ability for somebody who might be in the market for one of the bikes I have reviewed in depth on the channel

[@Twinnzllc]

This video isn’t about all that obviously. Maybe you should get your expectations in check and learn to do better research on specific information

[@mikemanzolina9237]

Maybe lose your attitude. @@Twinnzllc

[@Twinnzllc]

@@mikemanzolina9237 just checking you for criticizing someone bc you’re entitled self wanted what you wanted in the video.

[@mikemanzolina9237]

@Twinnzllc dude, I made a comment now stfu. Get a life and move on. He responded, "Now leave it alone. All you incels are the same. Angry and looking for attention.

[@jamesstubbs4978]

Philodo h8 is better

[@howardthomas3862]

the 20 inch wheel bikes will climb better

[@Bluesman2509]

Now ride up it on a normal bike and feel the BURN 🔥

[@bosthebozo5273]

Jans no? how about Jans yes

[@TailHappyTV]

😆

[@tomruotsalainen5909]

Okay first go to a real hill that is about 2 to 3kms in length

[@chileditz]

God loves you and wants a relationship with you❤

[@ivanivanov-pf5sv]

This girl on bike is probably 55kg put someone who is heavy like 95kg

[@TailHappyTV]

according to your mom's scale I weigh 91kg as of last night

[@ivanivanov-pf5sv]

@@TailHappyTV where you been last night girl

[@applechili2848]

Lots of fails…

[@mogeking56]

How heavy is your ebike, it does matter. It you have intentions on taking it out of town, putting it on the back of your car 🚗 or truck. 🛻 the weight does matter at that point you may need to buy a special ebike rack based on the weight and size of your ebike. Ebike racks are not cheap so…..now that you know that what is your budget like.

[@bobikbobikowy5458]

So conclusion is if you live in hilly area its better to buy 3kw conversion kit 😂 those 300w motors just stop on steep hill.

[@mykerivers8334]

LOL these bikes are weak, LOL I have a Dj Bike and hills are no problem.

[@TailHappyTV]

ill race ya on my custom ebike 😉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGHGkJeJn8upmas