Aptera Solar Defense RANT

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[@gehrigornelas6317]

I love that they're getting their solar tech out there as soon as they can. Hell yeah!

[@Hafgren]

I was excited about the Aptera when it was first announced and disappointed when they dropped out of the public eye, but they came back and have been nailing everything so far. This seems like a smart move and I'm not too sure how people could view it negatively.

[@vic321344]

No production ready vehicle since 2009? Sounds like a bunch of empty promises.

[@ItsSeals]

The airport move was genius on their part. Literally genius

[@n.brucenelson5920]

This is a market that Chris Anthony is already very familiar with through his work with Flux Power.

[@barnabasseadog7660]

I work at the airport at SAN. I'm going to look around for Averest vehicles with the Aptera logo on glass roofs. Very exciting as an investor.

[@wingsounds13]

There are SO MANY people who know nothing about running a business who are convinced that they know far better how to run Aptera than the business savvy co-CEOs of Aptera. Many of these people are also complaining LOUDLY about how Aptera's timelines have slipped and keep slipping. Yes, it's frustrating, but it's a fact of ANY product development. Large, well established companies have difficulty keeping to their projected time lines. Fisker, Rivian, Lucid, Tesla (especially Tesla) all have had deliveries slip far behind their projected timelines. Guess what??? Aptera isn't immune from this fundamental fact of the universe. I think that it's brilliant that they can start capitalizing on their solar panel development before getting into production with their vehicle. As noted, this will not slow them down, my thought is that it will speed them up. Both with capital infusion as well as advancing the development of their solar production line. Charge on Aptera, we're watching and anxiously waiting for our wonder vehicle.

[@MichaelSmith-kn4cl]

It's called diversification of your portfolio and it made me feel much better about my stake in Aptera. It's just good business sense to be more than a one trick pony.

[@tims8603]

Most people don't know that even know the big three automakers take many years to develop and produce a new vehicle. In some cases 5 years and they have a lot of people working on that and a lot of money. A lot of times the vehicle is a failure. Considering the budget Aptera has and the small amount of people involved, I think they're doing fine.

[@chrisdsouza8685]

Aptera, like Tesla, should be more than a car company.

[@meikgeik]

@@chrisdsouza8685 Tesla is crumbling right now, have you seen how far down their sales were last quarter while the rest of the EV industry is growing? I cancelled my Aptera reservation over the Teslafication of the company. The people running the company are so busy chasing trends that they have no clue when they'll actually be in production. I reserved back in like 2016? and they said I'd have a car by 2018... Tell me how well that worked out. They have NO CLUE what it takes to produce a car.

[@GoClimbARockEh]

@@meikgeik You reserved an Aptera in 2016? Three years before the company was founded? Did you use a time machine?

[@DemaGeek]

I couldn't agree more Drew, these are genius moves by Aptera! Additional revenue streams from Aptera Solar will only support the company and bring vehicles to market faster. Thanks for your rant, these armchair, knee-jerk reactions are frustrating....

[@vic321344]

Same thought Sono Motors had. Shortly before they went bancrupt.

[@HansMilling]

Also, the more solar panels they can produce, the cheaper they will be.

[@vic321344]

Aptera does not produce anything. They buy everything over the counter and bang their vehicles together.

[@user-ok8bu5ff9f]

I agree 100%. Well spoken!

[@jewelrycasa]

Well said Drew 😀. I feel Aptera is doing all the right things in the right order. Just like you said, "Aptera using their own technology - their Intellectual Property" to make positive cash flow into the company. That's free money from the Monopoly bank to buy more houses. Genius. I agree with you that it is taking a little longer than I had hoped, but to have a vehicle that is delivered and works excellent the first time is what you really want. We are watching history, right in front of us, as big or bigger than how the VW bug came to the scene. I feel that after Aptera has their vehicles on the road - the current vehicle design that we know now is going to all change. That Jetson's car with it's round shape will be the shape of our transportation. The Aptera is already the "Car of the Future" right now.

[@Mennenth]

Wait... People are upset Aptera solar is being used elsewhere? Why? Funding has been a big thing for Aptera. Why get upset at them making money off of what they have? I for one want them to get as much money as they can. My reservation number is likely deep in the 40k's. Which... According to the timelines will likely be at least another 3 years away. And I'm currently driving a car from 2011. I *really* want my next car to be Aptera, which means I need my current old car to last as long as possible, which means Aptera getting money so they can get to volume production faster decreases how long I need my car to survive for, which is good. Man, people are silly...

[@tims8603]

I feel the same. My 2010 Honda Fit is old but still in great shape. I'm not in a hurry to get a newer vehicle. I want Aptera to produce a quality finished product. I can wait.

[@stix2you]

As a member of the Aptera community, I would say no, none of us are upset about this. Maybe 1%, but that's basically the troll base.

[@MultisportOfficial]

That was my first thought. Use what they already have to make money to use for production of what remains. The fact that they CAN do this shows just how intelligently their development team has been working. Also, this is a good PR move, as it increases name-recognition among other commercial entities and THEIR customers. This kind of support is exactly what a startup needs to get off the ground.

[@wyattnoise]

That's why Cybertruck was so late, because they licensed out their 48v architecture... All jokes aside, this is a masterclass move by Aptera. They would be leaving money on the table not doing this. Period.

[@artboymoy]

I have no problem with Aptera doing more with their solar at the time. If it's already locked in for the vehicle, there should be another team working on getting the solor technology sold as aproduct that other companies can license and use. That just helps make Aptera more diverse and flexible.

[@deanmcmanis9398]

Good rant Drew! We all want our Aptera EVs already. But the cooler heads at Aptera are planning out the long haul, and not just the immediate gratification. We know that production is NOT going to begin until 2025, but the bigger picture is that the U.S. Capital funding needs to happen first, combined with the Accelerator money, and the California grant money which is specifically paying back investments made in solar and battery production equipment that supports California jobs and clean energy technology. Plus after Aptera production begins, Aptera will start their IPO. Importantly, investors like the U.S. Capital group, upcoming IPO investors, and future government loans, all look at company assets and income earning capability. Like Aptera's patents and solar technology, and the upcoming potential revenue of Aptera Solar customers. Like the Aptera itself, long term success means running lean, building efficiently, planning wisely, and not just focusing on the first 50 EVs, but focusing on what it takes to build the first 5,000, and the next 20,000, and fulfilling 50,000+ Aptera EVs being built, and more. So many start up companies fail because they are short-sighted. The Aptera team deserves praise for planning ahead, to production next year, and growing their business over the next 3 years, and even 5 years from now.

[@milohobo9186]

I can't wait to see it on the road. Get this out, then start nudging Telo to look at a solar truck option!

[@WyndStryke]

Actually benefits the vehicle because a) it means that the solar production line is already set up and any issues have had time to be resolved, b) back-end production systems like warehousing, ERP, even support roles like finance and HR, are up and running, and c) there is (a little) extra money coming in.

[@saintvii-viiart6696]

Aptera said that their prime focus on everything is efficiency. I feel like they are living up to their motto. I would rather wait and get the most amazing product ever rather than putting something out like the video game companies do that needs lots of updating and fixing. Take your time Aptera, I’m excited for your vehicle.

[@vic321344]

At one point they have to sell something. But they do not even have a production ready prototype. Since 2009.

[@barnabasseadog7660]

@@vic321344 Once again, thanks for pushing the algorythim and engaging. Wait until you hear about PI3.

[@ryanevernham3064]

I think you're spot on, I didn't even imagine people could be upset by this move

[@peterlongland6862]

I think Aptera taking advantage of tech that they themselves have developed is smart business. The vehicle at present is a capital drain, therefore gaining access to alternative revenue streams makes sense. I have to wait for a righthand drive vehicle which mean 2027, most likely 28, so anything that helps Aptera meet its manufacturing is welcome news.

[@southerntesla]

This was a brilliant move by Aptera. It gives them a nice revenue stream to help out things while they ramp. I would rather a slight delay than a bankrupt Aptera.

[@Imageon44]

Pretty darn accurate rant! It’s a honor that folks want the solar tech. It could also be a substantial source of revenue. Stuff’s getting done, we’ve just got to be patient. Good things come to those who wait.

[@michaelbramel5771]

Preach, brother!

[@tonydeveyra4611]

I am curious if Aptera's solar tech could be competitive with the tech used in lightweight portable solar panels like Bluetti or Jackery. One device I have daydreamed about sometimes is a portable pop-up canopy, like the ones folks use at the farmer's markets, except instead of a canvas cover, it has like 2kw of solar panels on it, and can help recharge my car while i'm camping or hanging out at the beach. I would love to see if this could be an application

[@user--PM]

all the delays in funding for the 3 wheeler aptera, makes splitting up and trying to find additional financial resources to fund the project makes perfect sense to me, i dont know why anyone would complain about them doing their best to stay alive. i am not happy about the delays, but i would much rather get there eventually, than not get there at all.

[@johnpoldo8817]

My order for a thousand mi version was placed two years ago. But, I’m so anxious together one now that I’ll take any range. Glad I invested too !

[@Kt0101]

Especially since the solar is ready to go and sell so they will expedite their path towards profitability BEFORE they IPO which is a huge move so this is a great outcome of their hard work to push their solar development

[@mrpeegeepee2682]

I agree Drew...My personal problem is I'm 73 and hoping I can live long enough to enjoy my Aptera for at least a decade....I know, I know...be patient....

[@DuaneVoth]

Straight on brother. Zero reason why Aptera should _not_ license tech they have developed to others. This can only _help_ speed vehicle production. Detractors ... 😂😞

[@vic321344]

There is nothing they can license to others.

[@kevinmitchell3168]

I would be upset if they weren't seeking additional sources of income. So long as they don't lose focus on their primary goal let them take on as much at they want. The more profitable they are the cheaper and faster we will all get a vehicle.

[@CH-es4up]

Sure, I would love my Aptera sooner rather than later, but I am happy that Aptera is doing things right instead of fast.

[@Tekaisuwu]

If anything, this speeds up the process. First haters hated on the crowdfunding aspect, and now that they have a source of revenue they’re hating on that. Can’t satisfy everyone I suppose.

[@equanimity4lifelonglearnin216]

The people who are mad are probably professional troll bots working for oil industry… don’t let them steal your calm.

[@joelcordeiro2079]

I appreciate your channel and videos. Your thoughts are right in line with mine. Many thanks! Go Aptera!!

[@JBean_COCR]

I can taste the SUNA too, total agreement with the rant.

[@kylerobinson7572]

Solar licensing, Great Idea!!! Helps pay the bills and spreads the technology! Win-win!!

[@vic321344]

What do you want to license? Recreation vehicles had solar on their roofs already 20 years ago.

[@stix2you]

NO other company has a product like this in the pipeline. Not a single one. We already know how maintenance free EV's are. Imagine not having to even fuel it.

[@vic321344]

Nobody wants to build a motorcycle that is wider than a Hummer H1.

[@barnabasseadog7660]

The downside is obvious as an investor, the upside is yet unknown. Indeed it's hard to imagine the impact of a vehicle that creates it's own fuel. Next year we find out, first hand.

[@vic321344]

@@barnabasseadog7660 it does not create its own fuel. It might be able to trickle load the battery in a very expensive way.

[@robertrobert9227]

Development of the solar panels for other uses and applications. Can have an additional benefit 😮 As each new application is developed this might provide additional benefits in the Aptera’s future improved panel functionality. This might help in manufacturing cost savings. It might provide some future improvement in the solar panel electrical output. There are many unknown benefits in Aptera’s decision to provide their licensed panel technology to other companies. Besides improving the bottom line.😂

[@hedleypepper1838]

I am impatient I want to see aptera on the road . It's the coolest ev bar none. Any way they can keep the company growing and viable is good by me. P.s. can you ask if they will be selling them in Europe 🇪🇺 and specifically in the UK 🇬🇧 even more specifically England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@filipehenrique3158]

Just a small correction. Rivian is targeting **gross** profit. That means Revenue per vehicle - COGS will be positive. They still have ~1B in operating expenses that will still make their net position negative. They need to ramp by 3-4x in order to achieve net profit. Which is honestly the only thing that matters. Even Tesla was gross profitable with the S/X. It wasn’t until they ramped with 3/Y that the company became net profitable.

[@Russwig]

You are right! Soooo, right. Give them a break guys!!!!

[@RivMike205]

On point Drew, to market too early or too late usually is trouble-but there is so much more. Generating cash flow before the roll out is all good.

[@MaxSUNAAptera]

I can wait.... The money I have to buy my Aptera is sitting in a dividend producing stock paying a 9.39% yield as of Friday's close. The stock price is up ~20% from my purchase price. I can wait while they continue their work getting the vehicle ready for production and out the door. BTW and FYI, the stock I have the money in is, HTGC. Your money your decisions.

[@glike2]

With the auto market in a downturn and interest rates hi there is less incentive to rush it and more incentive to get it right when the auto market gets tight they will be able to sell better. Europe will be a very good market with very high fuel prices coming due to electrification incentives resulting in higher taxes on fuels.

[@ematejowsky]

You got 25% thumbs up - might be a record.

[@charangohabsburg1]

Thank you so much, very well ranted!

[@theninjineer]

I agree wholeheartedly! Thank you for making this video!

[@wineberryred]

Getting solar panels on other vehicles as soon as possible is a good thing, that way they can get some real world testing before they start putting them on Aptera's.

[@vic321344]

Solar on vehicles is inefficient and expensive.

[@wineberryred]

@@vic321344 I don't believe it. I placed one of my solar panels on top of my car and it generated the same amount of power as the ones in my solar rack. My panel supplier didn't charge me any extra for the panel I placed on my car.

[@wineberryred]

@@vic321344 I placed a solar panel on my car and it's generated the same power and didn't cost any more.

[@craigarnold1212]

While I see Polydrop as a niche market I find the Airport testing as a potential big deal. One that has a lot of needs that this solar tech can fill with demand from Port authorities to reduce pollution and service costs. I see Aptera Solar as a division right now that could be a spin off down the road. Investing in a one pony show is like betting on roulette. I am sure you saw the live stream today and how they break down the zones within a panel on a tera's body. For better solar efficiency. The 4 patents on the wall and hint of 3 more coming! The solar is what got the $130M valuation that interested US Capitol into representing them. And by representing, pitching the story to bankers and accredited investors using a mix of funding options. I can not help but think that Averest is a customer of Flux for LFP battery packs and a BMS. Does any of this ring a bell? I wouldn't invest in Tesla if it was Just a car company and I bet you would not either. Aptera Motors shot at surviving just got a whole lot better.

[@ryanwright2235]

So it’s okay for Tesla to have a Solar Energy division of their business. But it’s not okay for Aptera to do something similar? So it’s a bad thing to make money from a product that has potential for other uses. And instead they should just hold it close to their chest and not let anyone else use it and not make money from it? 🤦🏽‍♂️ People really need better things to complain about. Because this one is a waste of time. What Aptera is doing is sooooo smart. And it’s their smart decisions that draw people like us to their company. I don’t just believe in their Products. I TURLY believe in the company and their decisions!!!

[@LCCB]

Looking forward to Aptera making the top floor parking spaces in a parking garage popular.

[@vic321344]

If a vehicle that is wider than a Hummer H1 will even fit into the ramp of the garage.

[@barnabasseadog7660]

WOOHOO, I work at the airport twenty-two miles away. I'm getting a quarterly pass for that rock star parking up front, to clock in. Then moving the Aptera to the top level before the sun comes up. Just cannot wait to see how this improves my quality of life in SoCal.

[@vic321344]

@@barnabasseadog7660 especially if you get Stuck on the ramp and need to call the firefighters to cut you out.

[@freespam9236]

Arrival also claim some real cool tech - their panels and assembly method that both could be something they could sell Let's hope they also can make it happen as their way to the local delivery sector seems interesting

[@ItsSeals]

This is great news, I’ll invest more after ipo

[@johnbullers8647]

Can’t wait to get mine!

[@robinpettit7827]

I suspect the anti-Aptera ranters are paid by oil industries. Also, Aptera revealed that the inwhewl motors is fully sourced bit they are finishing up the legalities. It is clearly a negotiation in process.

[@TimThavirat]

They SHOULD be leveraging their completed, proprietary panels ASAP. Would be foolish not to.

[@chucknorri5]

I hope they use dual pane glass to keep the noise down

[@brianrosenlof388]

Why would you not want Aptera to license and start making actual money of their solar!? That just sounds absurd to me.

[@actionteamministry1777]

Totally agree with you on this Drew. Aptera’s unparalleled patience and endurance may be frustrated the immediate gratification crowd now, but may very well be their rivaled superpower in the looooooooooonnnnnnggggggg run-like 1000mile range long run. What they are attempting to do is unprecedented. They are not only bringing a unique, unprecedented product, but they are also attempting to do it in and through a unique and unprecedented process. And if that wasn’t hard enough. They’re doing it (present imperative) AS A STARTUP!!! If and when they pull this off they deserve to be heralded as the next great company model for not only what they’ve achieved, but HOW they did it. Even Apple has never attempted anything close to what Aptera is attempting to do. Keep up the great work Drew.

[@vic321344]

Unparalleled slowness and inefficiency.

[@psikot]

How do you get in the car if the 12 volt battery dies?

[@GullWingInnMoclips]

All EVs have a way to get in if that happens. Aptera will be no different.

[@magamike1800]

Cyber cab needs these solar panels.

[@garywozniak7742]

I agree with you that the Aptera selling panels to other companies is a positive. However, it would be nice to see a fully clad PI build with the full solar package on it. I know that they recently showed the molding tray that they need to laminate the panels for the rear hatch but the have yet to show any rear hatch panels.

[@tims8603]

I'm pretty sure they have shown the PI rear hatch panel. I wish I could remember where I saw it. It looks really good.

[@garywozniak7742]

@tims8603 Possibly in a rendering.

[@tims8603]

@@garywozniak7742 I found a video where you can get a glimpse of it. I still think there's a better view of it somewhere. Aptera Update - March 2024. time - 2:28

[@tims8603]

This is the one I was thinking of - Aptera Answers YOUR Questions!. It's near the start of the video.

[@johnreeves7261]

@@tims8603 Neither of the videos you mention show a glass topped hatch solar panel. What you likely think are solar panels are not. I believe it is a "forged carbon" support structure for the hatch solar panels.

[@NoorElahi1776]

As an investor, I want Aptera to be profitable. I want to see Aptera Solar everywhere.

[@rmm9676]

There are valid concerns worth addressing. 1- Actual Mileage Range with and without use of home charging. Range tests must include results in actual winter conditions // 2- Proper cooling of motors in hilly conditions // 3- Rigorous actual track tests with various maneuvering scenarios // 4- Demo of owner changing the tires // 5- Completion of their planned crash tests. Please post videos as these are covered by the Aptera team. I think #3 is in progress. thanks

[@vic321344]

There is no production ready prototype existent. So how do you manage to perform real world track tests. With a beta, that has nearly nothing to do with the production intent vehicle? Point 1-5 are just wishful thinking.

[@rmm9676]

@@vic321344 Correct, I really wish to see all these addressed in due time. These are necessary milestones.

[@skeptibleiyam1093]

I think that the comments against the solar projects are just a symptom of how much people want this car to succeed and the knowledge of how risky it is to start a new company, let alone a car company. It could all fall apart at any time for a host of reasons.

[@GNiessen]

Well said.

[@andremcamara3120]

Totally agree with you Drew. Thanks for Ranting!

[@jayp.4381]

The Curse of Oak Island of the EV Industry...

[@RajGiandeep]

Agree 100%

[@johnreeves7261]

What does "they're going to be licensing out their solar I.P." mean? All of Aptera's published patent applications for "article of manufacture" - type utility patents for the glass topped solar panels are "final rejected" by the US Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) due, mostly, for non-novelty. Isn't it correct to say Aptera is simply selling solar panels to the likes of Polydrop?

[@rchender]

I dunno john, is it? If they sell it it's a revenue stream isn't it? And in case you haven't noticed or refuse to acknowledge, they DO have protected intellectual property.

[@johnreeves7261]

@@rchender said: "I dunno john, is it? Yes, I believe it is correct to say Aptera is simply selling solar panels to the likes of Polydrop. @rchender said: "And in case you haven't noticed or refuse to acknowledge, they DO have protected intellectual property." I've very much "noticed" and "acknowledge" Aptera has protected intellectual property. It's just not the solar panels as "articles of manufacture". Anyone is free to make solar panels like Aptera.

[@vic321344]

@@rchender Aptera burns 6 Mill $ per month. Without producing anything. A revenue stream of several 100k wont help. And they do not have anything to license to others.

[@rchender]

@@vic321344 Oh wise one, how dost thou get such financial information. Thou ist truly a sage for all sages! Oh great one, thank you for letting us know this unforetold secret information. I thank the gods of finance and spend that thou ist there to warn all of us poor ignorant peons! Just to address your nonsense statement that has ZERO logic and even LESS fact: Space X burns tens and tens of millions per month and hasn't had a single rocket go to Mars let alone land people on it! LMAO!!!

[@ianbladuell2694]

They will NEVER make it into full production and public deliveries

[@johnvoules7447]

Thank you Drew, your thoughts and influence support APTERA’s production as much as anyone any investor or employees at the company.

[@josephgallagher1440]

As usual well done my friend!

[@khalifornication]

More Passion Pls

[@-NGC-6302-]

nice shirt

[@charliebrockway166]

More concerned about Elaphe saying no motors until 2020-2030. Lack of info from Aptera is concerning

[@gmv0553]

The news is coming! The driveline is finalized so no need to worry!

[@rchender]

Charlie, where the heck did you come up with that one? 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 and 2024 are essentially over or do you live in a time warp? Perhaps you should keep your comments based on real statements in real time.

[@GullWingInnMoclips]

This the very definition of "concern-trolling". Thanks for that.

[@charliebrockway166]

@@rchender when Lordstown failed, a top executive for Elaphe was interviewed and clearly said “Elaphe has no plans to produce an in-wheel motor until 2029.”.Thus the question of Aptera motors. Also, Aptera omitted Elaphe from their list of production suppliers in their recent update. The name Elaphe was an often heard word as a main partner until several months ago when the name is no longer mentioned. Today Aptera confined the drivetrain is complete and will be produced with still no mention of Elaphe. An announcement is in the works according to Aptera but absolutely no mention of Elaphe. There are some information holes I would be interested in seeing filled. If the motor deal is in concrete, why not say Elaphe will produce them. And if not Elaphe, why not tell us who is the manufacturer?

[@Lord_Mangoat]

I'm sorry, but some people are just kind of dumb, tbh. They don't understand that selling a developed product for use to other companies = revenue to make the Aptera quicker.

[@johnnyjet3.1412]

That’s sounds all kinds of goood, but I’m getting old here.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

We all get old eventually. I also care about my children and grand children's future.

[@NYCCEJ]

Thank you Drew, great conversation and analysis as always. 🎉Go Aptera🎉 Can't wait to see the PI vehicles on the road!

[@dylanwhite6539]

People am dumb

[@rchender]

Excellent summary video! You have pre-empted what the trolls constantly harp on, but I'm sure they'll be back in droves. They cannot resist the opportunity to throw meaningless barbs, lies, distortions, exaggerations and ridiculous conjecture at something as novel as Aptera. One wonders what makes them so concerned about those of us who've invested and/or placed pre-orders? Well, the obvious answer is, they do not care, nor are they the least bit concerned--they've JEALOUS, petty people who LOVE TO HATE on a great idea that no one else came up with. You cannot reason with them because not only are they NOT logical but in most cases, they refuse to accurately state that which is right in front of their JEALOUS NOSES. I've said my piece, so now let the trolling begin! LMAO--it's now my laughs for the day when i read their nonsense.

[@andromedach]

the copium is strong with this one. if anyone needed a near textbook example of escalation of commitment, well here you are.

[@GoClimbARockEh]

True. You do present a textbook example in your commitment to doubting Aptera.

[@johnjohnson3370]

Bitcoin and aptera there's no substitute

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Drew, I love your passion. That is what it takes to create something new. The neigh sayers are good at burying their heads in the sand and can't see what is plainly happening around them, even though the evidence is now on the news every day, as well as being experienced in person.

[@vic321344]

Aptera is not even able to present a production ready prototype since 2019. And that is the easy part. Production is hard.

[@GoClimbARockEh]

I'm curious to see how far you continue to move the goal posts once Aptera starts production. Will you complain that they haven't produced enough cars yet in a year? Will you belly ache about how they haven't come out with a thousand mile variant yet? And once they reach those goal posts, I imagine you'll next move on to complaining that they are still only selling the two-door, and not the four-door they promised us. I guess trolls gotta troll

[@vic321344]

@@GoClimbARockEh "once they Start production" . Aptera promise since 2019. Until now they were not even able to present a production ready prototype. Just empty promises. "Once upon a time..."

[@GoClimbARockEh]

@@vic321344 yeah that's how time works. Things don't happen, and then they do

[@barnabasseadog7660]

@@vic321344 Hey FUDmonger, I got real money on the table that says you don't know jack. As an Accelerator investor that resides twenty-six miles from Aptera, I can expect delivery sometime next year. Thanks for the continued motivation.

[@eXdXgXe4life]

You work for aptera right?

[@TailosiveEV]

I work for Telo Trucks. Not Aptera

[@artboymoy]

@@TailosiveEV Although you are an Accellarator right? Or investor, I think you said. If not, my bad.

[@pavanbiliyar]

Don't assume only people who have invested time and money are the defenders. It happens, yes, but that doesn't discount points made. Most people who criticize are against change and do not respect that in business, roadmaps are always subject to CHANGE. In their mind, road maps are promises, and if change occurs, promises are broken, and thus, every investment thereafter is a scam. But as mentioned, they don't know how to run a business with products no one has made before. They take the mass produced and optimization of consumerism for such granted, they ate oblivious to how new projects start.

[@gmv0553]

​@@artboymoyhe has only posted that he is a reservation holder.

[@TeslaTimATL]

This is the right order for Aptera and Rivian. 1. Spend millions on developing a vehicle 2. Find out that making a vehicle profitable is hard and redirect resources 3. License you IP to other companies since you can’t figure out the car in order to slow down (not fix) cash burn 4. File bankruptcy and leave shareholders screwed

[@rchender]

That shows the limit of your puny mind.

[@bluetoad2668]

I can't believe that you can watch those two guys at the head of Aptera talk and believe that they will ever deliver that stupid trike. They will file for bankruptcy and that'll be it. Just stop. Enough people have wasted their money. As for the patents, you clearly don't understand how patents and IP work. Aptera will not make significant money from those patents.

[@gmv0553]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@rchender]

Blue toad, tsk, tsk, tsk....you have wasted your brain (what little you have) in trying to ridicule Aptera investors. You CLEARLY don't understand how patents and IP work! There--RIPOSTE, you troll!

[@GullWingInnMoclips]

We had a perfect example of concern-trolling above, and now a perfect example of ankle-biting. Thanks for that, too!

[@bluetoad2668]

@@GullWingInnMoclips you're welcome

[@Derpy1969]

Licensing their tech is a desperation For cash. Nothing new here.

[@GoClimbARockEh]

Oh no! They found another income stream! The horror!

[@fgerv]

Grifter

[@TeslaTimATL]

The way you promote this sham of a company is a huge credibility risk for your channel.

[@n.brucenelson5920]

Someone is clearly not familiar with the industry, and does not know how to research it.

[@GoClimbARockEh]

The way you claim this company is a sham without providing a shred of evidence is a huge credibility risk for you.

[@barnabasseadog7660]

Umm, no. You're not biased TeslaTim.

[@EarthCreature.]

Steve from owners club sensationalized the lack of elaphe listed as a partner recently. There's no end to the unnecessary freak outs

[@Nuker54]

You would also have to price the cars at a much higher price! Right on👍