STOP Buying iPads (New)

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[@-KingOfKhaos]

My 2013 iPad finally decided it no longer plays nice with most apps and websites… so I purchased the most practical replacement for it; a MacBook Pro.

[@chinmaysawant9275]

Me too… 😅.

[@terribletimes902]

What

[@redesignedlife777]

@@terribletimes902older non supported iPads no longer allow you to update the app. Which renders it useless even though the iPad still works fine. I can no longer update my KZbin app so it wont allow me to watch KZbin videos.

[@-KingOfKhaos]

@@redesignedlife777 Yup… that’s basically what happened to me as well… technically it still “works” just fine… but essentially none of the apps I used the ipad for work with it at this point.

[@arblxoffical]

@@redesignedlife777you can still watch KZbin on safari or google chrome

[@CeeJay591]

I’d wait for WWDC to find out what Apple has in mind for the iPad Pro

[@nirabenhamou6829]

Can you please explain why wait? I ordered the new iPad Pro and was wondering what is the difference between waiting for WWDC and not waiting. Thanks!

[@yippiecalle421]

@@nirabenhamou6829I’m waiting for more pro apps that I want like developer tools or make it more desktop-y when docked or connected to mouse and keyboard. If not, then I would be fine with getting a iPad mini or iPad with a MacBook

[@saberknight2474]

@@nirabenhamou6829Potential software compatibility updates. With all that horsepower and so little applications for said horsepower, the significant investment in an iPad Pro may not seem reasonable to the average end user. WWDC is a venue where Apple often showcases software updates including those for the iPad line, so WWDC announcements for iPadOS might give people a reason to buy a new iPad that they do not have right now.

[@Patty100ish]

@@nirabenhamou6829 what he is saying I believe is let’s wait for WWDC before you think the iPad is just a paper weight. Holding out hope that Apple will make the iPad more useful for heavy users not just the KZbin watchers. That’s what he is saying brahhhhh

[@CeeJay591]

@@nirabenhamou6829 In this video Drew was suggesting that the iPad Pro was not worth the extra money - my comment was in reference to that viewpoint

[@Adamoji]

All valid points, Drew. In 2018 I bought the brand new redesigned iPad Pro and to this day it still looks and feels brand new. There is no slowness whatsoever. Even though I paid a lot for it, I've gotten 6 years of use out of it. So yes, there are better deals out there, but buying a refurbished iPad Air is not going to give me the same longevity and usefulness. It's like Rene Ritchie always says. You buy the best product you can afford and then you love the heck out of it for as long as you can.

[@abdullahazeem8644]

Yeah spot on ,can you tell me what about the battery life of your ipad and is it still working fine ??

[@Adamoji]

@@abdullahazeem8644 Which iPad? You mean the 2018? Well, it’s a 6 year old battery so of course it has degraded some and doesn’t last as long as it used to. But I still get 5 or 6 hours out of a charge which is usually more than fine for my needs.

[@abdullahazeem8644]

@@Adamoji yeah that’s pretty much fine backup considering the 6 years old battery in an iPad 2018 ,I have iPad Pro M2 2022 bought it in august 23 so I just wanna know how much this iPad m2 will gonna give me battery backup in next 3,4 years but it depends on everyone’s usability but still I was curious that’s why I asked for it ☺️

[@TheBooban]

Why shouldn’t an iPad last 6 years and a refurbished be just as good? Why should there be slowness? My ipads always break at the connector. Also slowness but don’t do anything except surf so it barely matters.

[@Isaac-ht2jz]

I am using the same iPad to watch this video 😂

[@ethanjrdz]

Devices are getting too good that their predecessors most of the time are the wiser choice

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

I think the big issue here is just that the software is bottlenecked. We don't really know what in m4 chip can do with an iPad because iPad OS doesn't let you do anything. It doesn't even have a proper file manager, you can't download desktop apps or extensions ... I have tried to ask people to name a single thing the new iPad Pro can do that one from 5 years ago can't.... I think the only answer I get is like ray tracing. Anything else is mostly just related to Apple software gatekeeping not actual limitations of the hardware

[@ethanjrdz]

@@michaelcorcoran8768 correct! I use to have an M1 iPad Pro, and it still was a really good tablet. However I wasn’t using it as much as I use to so I sold on March. At least in my use case the iPhone and MacBook are really good now, that for now iPads are just maxed out iPhones and nerfed MacBooks. Only if the iPad gets the software it deserves, I may go back

[@mrflibble1985]

Refurbished all the way

[@tronam]

Something’s not right! My Apple Sheep is becoming corrupted. You were the chosen one!

[@imakethesites3048]

My 2018 11" ipad pro still works fine

[@clarencebrider3058]

The iPad Air 5 with M1 is $399 at Walmart at the moment.

[@nath1606]

Literally the only reason I replaced my iPad Air 2 with the 9th gen is because it only had 16gb of storage. My dad uses the Air 2 for work now, it's a 10 year old device now.

[@The_Official_Sarohan]

My 2015 iPad Pro still runs really smoothly and without any problems. Only slight problems are battery degradation and Apple dropped software updates for this device

[@GabriellaBalagna]

I love my 2015 iPad Pro, it but isn’t cutting it for me anymore. -too slow, crashing -not enough storage, cause iOS and apps use way more these days -battery super worn out -screen not bright enough -pencil charger super easy to crack or fall off and and super annoying charging method -etc.

[@paulstein9258]

Same here. Battery down to 3 hours. Last update was 16.8. I still use it.

[@AnonN-sr6uu]

Interesting how negative he is toward iPads over MacBooks, when iPads generally have been gaining the most features in the past 10 years.

[@navyemt1262]

When many people are shopping based on credit (payments with 0% interest) buying used is a hard sell.

[@flygrrrrl3753]

Hmmm, I don’t know. A used iPad Pro 2TB for $900 cash… or a brand new iPad Pro with 256gb for $1199 paid over 12 months? A used iPad mini 5 256GB for $249… or a brand new iPad mini 6 256gb for $649? And then the next morning the car needs some new tires. 🤔 Oh, and I better not hear anyone complaining about gas prices! 😂

[@obscuracamaria2931]

I'll never understand buying on credit something you don't absolutely need

[@angryjoe98]

@@obscuracamaria2931people do need them

[@Mr.Zen_73]

your intro skits are getting better and better with each video! still rocking my 9th gen ipad 🙂and combined with my M1 Max macbook pro i'm happy for a while longer

[@Commander_CTD]

bro the ipad 9th gen is so slow in most games and it has 60 hz and still has the home button and no face id i have one and never use it... not much ram so i get quick out of some games

[@Mr.Zen_73]

@@Commander_CTD who plays games with ipad OR Mac for that matter?

[@nylotical]

@@Mr.Zen_73 Me and a bunch of the M series buyers. They both make great for the games they do support nowadays. It’s 2024, it’s been 4 years now dude, get with the times. 😂 Also iPads are literally advertised for gaming because that’s what the majority of iPad users use iPads for. I’m appalled by your lack of observational knowledge on such an obvious seeming detail of iPad as a product.

[@Mr.Zen_73]

@@nylotical people who play computer games are losers - i prefer to make art instead 🤣

[@rg975]

829$ for an M1 12.9 256gb from Apple is a great deal. Plus the mini led panel gives you 1600 nits of peak hdr. Seems like a much better buy than an m2 air or m4 pro

[@Rayver09]

Yes I agree, unfortunately I don’t see such deal where I live (France) iPad Air got a lazy update with just a chip upgrade , its screen is still no better than iPad Air 4 from 2020. No reason to buy it

[@colin6711]

Is it worth getting m1 12.9 128gb WiFi+cellular version for $778? It’s brand new by the way

[@xshadowscreamx]

I read that Pencil 2 don’t work on the new iPad Pro?

[@kobopanda2476]

You read right😢

[@MsMRkv]

I'm still using my 2013 nexus 7, it's not an ipad but it does get the job done

[@jimbrimble3131]

Weirdly, in the UK the new iPad Air is actually less expensive than the last model with twice the storage and a newer chip. So that’s the best value iPad for us by far.

[@chrismetcalfe7358]

I’d still buy an M2 iPad Pro over the new M2 air. I’m UK too and I’ve seen them cheaper plus you get Face ID and 120hz.

[@mikem2132]

A new iPad 9 is $249 right now on Amazon. I like mine and probably won’t buy a new one for several years.

[@CtrlOptDel]

Out of the three iPads I’ve ever bought (two for myself, one for my father) I’ve only bought one new (an iPad Air just after the release of the Air 2) & that was heavily subsidised as a bolt-on with a phone contract, the other two were an iPad 9 (for my dad) this year & an Air 4 (for myself) last year, both from CeX (a UK electrical & multimedia reseller).

[@peterparker2068]

Thanks for confirming what i was thinking. Only the Pro had an 12.9inch version until now. Off the Apple site the 2021 iPad Pro makes more sense with better hardware for $830 compare to the Air at $799

[@ItsRianCosta]

oled is the only reason i would switch . watching movies at night in that grey lcd is horrible

[@AnasKhan-ni9xx]

You could honestly wait for prices to drop and get it used. If all you use the tablet for is movies I would just get a cheaper alternative with the oled display.

[@mrdinosaurproductions9507]

Mini led looks great for movies black is very black

[@Anony.Mousse]

Don't buy the iPad if you only want to watch on it. I purchased the tab s9 ultra instead. Also OLED but bigger and also cheaper.

[@nylotical]

I hope you don’t try to buy an oled professional tablet to just watch movies.

[@iceinducer9528]

@@mrdinosaurproductions9507Yes but oled is even blacker than mini led

[@jasonroets660]

Nov 2021 Walmart sold 13” M1 256GB iPad Pro for $699 on their website. It said Refurbished, but mine was factory sealed. Two weeks later the price was raised $250. Hard to believe they sold new from Apple for $1,299

[@TreadTheDonutDuck]

I might pick up the 13 inch ipad pro in a few years when I head off to college because as someone who is going into a music education major I feel like it is genuinely really good for my use case. It's large enough and clear enough to replace paper, it's thin and lightweight, and that flash feature actually looks INSANELY useful for scanning sheet music. Finally, a feature that solves a problem I actually have!

[@stevegonzalez5275]

Im glad I came across your video Drew! I’m currently looking for an iPad. Not a brand spanking new model just something to use here and there at home or airport for Netflix etc. still undecided tho

[@afterglow-podcast]

I'd argue shop around and get what you need, not what you want. Walmart and Best Buy still have the 9th gen brand new for 249. After that got on eBay, got a brand new Otterbox Defender Pro for 30 and an Apple Pencil 1st Gen working condition for 45. I also splurged just a bit and got some cheap USB C female to Lightning male adapters so I can use my USB C cables instead of buying all new ones. So for under 350 I got an iPad with plenty of life left in it and still getting updates, with the fancy pencil and can still use my old charging cables.

[@E-Klasss]

Definitely would not buy a refurb Air 4 when Walmart has brand new M1 Airs for the same price right now.

[@RobStevens64]

I've been looking into replacing my A12Z 12" iPad Pro. After I saw the price increases for the iPad Pros, I'm considering either the iPad Air or a reform M2 iPad Pro instead. Those price increases don't make any damn sense without a massive improvement to iPad OS to match. So right now, I'm waiting until WWDC if those give a reason for the increased price.

[@macrichterj19]

Thank you for video! I like my iPad mini and iPad Pro 2018 generation. I do agree to make sure it fits what you are going to use it for rather than buying on impulse.

[@Terminal_Apotos]

I got the deal of a lifetime last July for an M2 12.9” iPad Pro with 512 gigs, an Apple Pencil 2, and a Knock off Magic Keyboard that works great for only $700. It’s such an amazing device I don’t expect to upgrade for 10 years, especially with the useless changes Apple is making.

[@manart6506]

I want to update to the new M4 iPad Pro and only reason to not to buy is the money. But if I wanted to save money is better to not buy anything that settle with something half way. But I don’t know if it’s good idea to wait as discounts come later but those always have the base specifications and it’s hard to find the 1TB models.

[@thebaldnerd1989]

I bought a 11 inch M1 iPad Pro with 512 GB of storage on Amazon renewed for $700 about a year ago. I have no reason to upgrade.

[@soumenchakraborty2450]

2018 11 inch iPad Pro here, should I change the battery and use it for 2-3 more years?

[@josemanuellastra2488]

The battery replacement is way more expensive than the iPad itself, I wanted to replace the battery to my iPad Pro 11in 2020 because is turning off randomly even still having battery power

[@MelissaAndAlex]

I have a iPad Air from 2021. Was considering upgrading to new one but my Apple Pencil won’t work like wtf why.

[@MrKlawUK]

isn’t this the same for most tech? If you only update when your current one is getting tired or you’re ready to change, get the best you can afford to last as long as possible, and take advantage of offers. For TVs I usually buy a year old just as they’re about to change models is a good time to get a deal

[@abdullazeezkareem5296]

Making iPad very slim so the weight with the magic keyboard will make it very suitable weight to use it as a laptop when adding macOS to it, thing looks like it is heading towards that direction

[@drew99957]

I just went with the 11 inch. I’m not trying to drop 1600 on iPad ridiculous.

[@jordanramsayclements]

Looking to get a new iPad. I’m afraid I’m just one of those video consumer users. I plan to keep the device for 5+years would anyone have any recommendations for new or apple refurbished iPads. Quite like the size of the mini but worried about longevity. I know the pros M chips will last a long time, just they are much larger and more expensive.

[@RawBacon05]

About 2 weeks ago I bought the M1 11 inch iPad with 256gb for 630 euros (that’s about 680 dollars, idk about taxes tho). Couldn’t be happier especially with those ridiculous prices of the new iPads. I have a chunky windows laptop for CAD and Rendering and wanted a lighter companion that I can bring around when I don’t need to do those tasks. And ever since I have it I don’t think my laptop will ever leave the house any time soon

[@Whispicous]

I think there should be only one type of iPad model and that’s the iPad Pro. And it should reduce in price each year a successor model launches by 100 dollars. So, the 2018 11 inch iPad Pro would be like 399 dollars The 2020 11 inch iPad Pro for like 599 dollars The 2021 11 inch iPad Pro could be like 699 dollars IMO, even the 2018 iPad Pro is better than the latest iPad Air in some regards, and it’ll most probably support software for another 2-3 yrs at least

[@alunlloyd9812]

I have the 2020 iPad Pro 11 inch and works great for me as an illustrator and graphic designer. More ram would help with layers but otherwise no complaints. To spend so much to upgrade I’d at the very least expect the desktop versions of the adobe suite to be on the new iPads. No point having an m4 if you can’t make full use of it

[@ryankelley7774]

Bought the 12.9 M1 for $759 refurbished from Apple last week. Very good decision since I basically use it to watch KZbin. Crazy expensive yes but sadly I got the older Air for $399 two weeks ago and wow. Once you have quad speakers you can't go back.

[@jomaix]

I got a brand new M2 iPad Pro for around $120 more than the M2 iPad Air. I'm using it instead of a MacBook since I work from an iMac most of the time, so whenever I don't wanna be at home, I can carry it easily. It wasn't the cheapest in my country, but I think that the 120hz screen refresh, the 2 extra speakers, the extra GPU core, thunderbolt port, and more importantly, the compatibility with the accessories I already have (Magic Keyboard + Apple Pencil 2) make those extra $120 worth it.

[@thomasdaly4597]

Tell me what iPad to buy for media composition aka movies and music only. I want a large screen. 12.9 / 13 inch that’s a must.

[@joseluis8291]

Ipad air 13 inches

[@mgaming7]

the 13" Pro weight reduction and the tandem oled is reason enough. get mine on the 15th. can't wait.

[@edcgadgets-de]

I am a  iSheep and always buy the latest and greatest but with iPads it seems just not worth it. My iPad replaced my MacBook and I use it for hours daily and take it on every travel. I had a 2015 12.9” pro since release and loved the size. In 2020 when the A12Z with lidar got announced, I bought the 2018. It’s nearly identical. Now, 1 year ago, as the M2 iPad pro was announced, I got the M1 on sale. Fabulous display. I keep using it for long, the M1 won’t ever be too slow in the iPad…

[@wifi32]

I’m debating on getting the mini 6, but worried it’s going the way of the iPhone mini.

[@shifter2979]

ye my 2017 ipad pro doesnt have alot of days left in it. the battery is almost entirely worn out and its just having trouble keeping up with all my drawings and 3 second animations. so im pretty convinced to buy the new m4 ipad pro this year. not just for drawing but really trying to make some high quality animations, i know that m4 is powerful as F so i think im good there. i dont think im gonna get the new magic keyboard since i dont use it like a mac, ive never owned a macbook in my life, so that will save me money there :)

[@TheWolfHowling]

Bought the 4th Gen 12.9" in 2020 and its still accomplishing the task of "streaming videos whilst eating" adequately, even with"only" a A12Z. Are those insanely bright, ever so marginally larger, displays tempting? Yes. However, Is it worth spending another NZD$4000 when adding in a storage bump, cellular & a new Magic keyboard? That's a much tougher sell.

[@ssaaffuu]

This is the most sane take I heard this week

[@MasterOfMike88]

I got a brand new 11” 2TB M1 iPad Pro for like $900 a few months back - was definitely clearance where I bought it in fairness (so you probably won’t be able to land a deal like that), but it’s a substantially better value than just about anything else you could get (as somebody who depends on not running out of storage)

[@user-on8fm7ys7l]

2018 iPad pro 12.9 is being retired today as I go get the new 13 pro. Hopefully Apple does something with iPad OS but I'm hoping the new pencil and screen along with hover are enjoyable features for drawing in procreate

[@christianscrogins663]

If you can afford to wait, why not just wait until WWDC in less than a month and then make your decision? Either Apple gets off their ass and does something about iPadOS which makes it actually worthwhile for pro workflows on par with a Mac, or they ignore it again for the umpteenth time. Unless you’re planning on buying a new iPad Pro regardless of what the software features will be in the future.

[@richarddcrossley]

Last black Friday the deals on M1 iPads were ridiculous in UK. I got a 2TB 11 inch for £800. The fact that even my stands won't work with the new iPads (get the case) due to the new magnets make it impossible for me to justify when combined with a new keyboard and pencil.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

Does the The new pencil not even work on the older iPads even if it's charged? The digitizer should still recognize them though. You obviously a brand new Galaxy tab can't charge an S pen from a Note 4 but you can still write with the S pens on either device interchangeably. Same with surface pens. If they are taking the extra step of saying the digitizer will not connect, that seems pretty shady.

[@nylotical]

Not really shady at all, it’d make sense they block that so that Barbara who gets conned into buying a $800 iPad Air by her son Timmy doesn’t get confused when the open box cheaper Apple Pencil 2 she bought him only worked for the first 2 weeks (and thats the refund expiration period for Best Buy… disgustingly short). Obviously that’s really specific but I’m just framing a scenario so what I’m saying can make sense.

[@SweetSweetCandyBoyz]

Don’t buy hardware for what you hope it might do in the future. Other than the rotation feature on the new Apple Pen, there isn’t much this new generation of iPads can do that you can’t do with the M1/M2 versions. In the unlikely event that Apple does ever expand iPad OS to be more useful, It would be a real dick move to leave those versions out. “MacOS coming to M4 iPads only… because… screw you, that’s why.” Sure, even the 2018 iPad Pro’s had more power than a MacBook Air of the Era, but there’s no WAY it could run MacOS, right? “M1 iPad? Nah, that can’t run MacOS” - Tim Apple

[@unkown34x33]

an apple pencil that only works for the pro... not any pros, the new pro.... that sounds soo ridiculous but it's true. respect Drew. Yes! The macos integration needs to happen

[@kingjustice1831]

Superb opening monologue Drew. No one imitates Tim Cook quite like you. Informative and entertaining at the same time. 😂

[@CrisGarcia6]

Since the iPad has Face ID, I don't understand why it does not have an option to set up a personalized spatial audio profile. Even though it says that it is for iPhone X or later, they should have included iPads with Face ID.

[@daegrun]

Very helpful info. The iPads are difficult to navigate which to purchase if desire one.

[@jujus_reviews]

Praying Apple gives us a mini with oled and 2tb!

[@phonepup06]

In 2021 I picked up the 2018 iPad Pro from the Apple refurbished page. It came looking and feeling brand new! And of course, has been serving me pretty well for these last few years

[@Buschaga]

MacOS on M1 iPad Pros or better with 16GB of RAM via a hypervisor app plz.

[@zeekay9941]

I use a base model iPad 9th generation and a keyboard case for a total cost of less than 300 with tax included. Doesn’t have pro motion, no laminate display, no mini LED or OLED, but it can play KZbin and all the modern apps work. More than enough for me and I feel all those features to justify the higher tiers is nice, but unnecessary.

[@user-ql9ru2cv9h]

I totally agree with the marketing thing because I bought a new ipad because of their ads and it turned out that I could have gotten a better deal refubished.

[@sillyrabbit77]

Craigslist has 6th gen 13” iPad Pro with m2 chips for 700-750. Luckily, my 2018 pro is getting the next update and works so well. I’m not upgrading for another year and a half.

[@framedthunder6436]

I really camt believe still not TPO display for the iPad pro

[@mikenyr4life491]

the 10.9" and 11" are identical screen size if you read the Apple fine print.

[@elizbeth8659]

Hey, very logical argument but it is missing one thing, trade-in’s. If I trade in my iPad. The price of a M2 128GB is right between a M1 64Gb and M1 256 GB. Is that a coincidence? It looks like pricing ladder to me.

[@williamheat3]

Just got iPad Pro 2021 11 inch with M1 for $620 from Apple. An amazing machine and I don’t expect to need another iPad for several years

[@matthewhewan5623]

I buy my M1 12.9 back in December 2022 for $730

[@matthewroth1]

I bought a 4th gen iPad Air refurbished instead of anything from the new lineup, aside from a newer more power-hungry chip, they’re basically the same tablet. Saved a few hundred.

[@waynebrowne1063]

I’ve got an iPad Pro 4th gen with the M2 chip and it’s not lacking anything I need. Absolutely no practical reason to upgrade for me. Honestly, it’ll be a while before I want to upgrade.

[@nylotical]

There is no way I would buy a new iPad Air over an m1 or m2 iPad Pro. That 120hz, power, and ram, I use for everything I don’t feel like doing on my M3 Pro MacBook Pro because I can’t get myself close all of my safari tabs 😅. Should’ve went for that 36gb but it is such an expensive jump.

[@KenMrKLC]

I have bought every ipad since beginning, always ends up on the shelf within 5 days to 2 weeks.... Yet I keep buying thinking each will be differnt but isnt. I WONT be getting this one

[@koraegis]

So the keyboard makes it a MacBook now with software to port? Bootcamp.

[@GamerKM.]

The implication of running pc games on a windows is running on boot camp running in a iPad Pro is WILDD.

[@damonasberry288]

These are some fair points, and normally I don’t buy new. I almost exclusively buy Apple refurbished. In this case, I traded in for a new 12.9 Air exclusively for the pencil pro. I do art and design on my iPad and the new features will be very useful. With that being said, I refuse to pay for the new pros. Just too expensive! I’ll wait a couple of years then upgrade to the M4 for cheaper.

[@3vlogs487]

I think the 11” M4 pro is the right one for me. I’ve always wanted an 11” iPad and promotion. I plan on keeping it until they drop software support so why not.. Yes I do have a pencil 2 from my mini 6 but oh well.

[@dr.eckhardschmidt5039]

I just bought a refurbished iPad Pro 12.9 M1 from 2021 256 GB cellular, which looks brand new for 859 € and it is just perfect.

[@Max-xl9qv]

2:22 - hmm, my father learned video editing on iPad Pro (CapCut), with almost no help from me, making home videos shot on iPhone, and his projects grew to the point where the M1 doesn't provide silky smooth workflow experience. iPad Pro proved to be the right tool, while i avoided even considering teaching my father the Premiere on Windows, that would be quite painful. For those creating, the Pro upgrade is very welcome. And it will be a bomb if they make it run MacOS.

[@MetalMike56]

Hi Drew, long time subscriber but it's been a while. You're looking great dude, keep it up!

[@JayaByte]

Sold my m1 for the s8 ultra. Tired of ipod os. If you're in the market for an iPad just wait for the new os to know where Apple cheaps out on software.

[@earnhar768]

I upgraded to Gen 9 iPad this year for $229 and it is perfectly fine. 😆

[@MikesVegas]

I bought an iPad Pro 11 ( 2018 ) refurbished on Amazon for $300 ! And I’m loving it ! I only buy refurbished 😎👍

[@Paradiiiice]

I no longer have an iPad….i sold it a few years ago. But I would buy a mini if they refreshed it

[@ArtelindSSB]

I ended up trading my 2018 iPad Pro to a friend for their Steam Deck because I've barely used it since getting a MacBook. No regrets.

[@CamronC]

Couldn’t agree more. I just got the M2 iPad Pro 11 inch 128GB for 599.00 from the military exchange so no tax either it comes in tomorrow🎉

[@opmacace523]

I’ll stick with my iPad Pro 10.5

[@phillipjames453]

I never buy new products directly from Apple. I get almost all of my Apple products on Amazon, Best Buy and other third party retailers at significant savings.

[@Michael-ur5qb]

I agree face id should be included in the Air but the price difference is notable between the Air and Pro line. So idk if I agree. $400 between a 12.9” Air and Pro is a lot.

[@swblade6190]

Honestly, the only reason to get an M2 Air 13 inch is for those sensitive to PWM and therefore require an LCD Aside from that M1/M2 LED 120Hz would be the way to go

[@andresayala1744]

I want to get a larger iPad to use at home and keep my iPad mini to go out. However, I don’t want to get the iPad because of the A14, my iPad mini has the A15 which will make the iPad feel like a downgrade. The M2 iPad Air doesn’t support my Apple Pencil 2, and I don’t want to get another pencil. I would love to get a M1 iPad Air, since it is more powerful than my iPad mini, but less powerful than my 15” MacBook Air M3.

[@akin242002]

Excellent pragmatic advice. You just earned a subscriber.

[@Nebulous361]

I went with a refurbished M1 Pro. It’s immaculate no marks what so ever, the Face ID is a slight pain in the ass being off to the side when held in landscape but other than that highly recommended 👍🏻

[@RubenO.K.]

I‘m still using my Mom's old iPad gen 1. Ok it’s now just a heavy but functional E-Reader. 😅 Battery life is still great after 14 years though.

[@Micahswf]

Just ordered me a used iPad Air 5th Gen 256 GB today on Amazon for $519 because my 2018 iPad Pro 256GB 12.9 battery is shot now so i hope i made a good move

[@lukethedrifter]

My 2017 iPad 5 does the job

[@phykios]

Totally agree, the new iPad 10th gen price and the iPad Air M2 are terrible buys considering that there's refurbished iPads that give you more for the same amount or just very slightly more money

[@waterboy330]

As an actual professional user for the iPad product. One of the absolute most critical features I need, 5G support, was downgraded on the new pros. I will be keeping my pro M1 chip with mmWave for a long while longer because I need the best cellular support I can get. I just doubled down too and purchased a second M2 iPad AFTER the most recent launch.

[@user-cp4nv1ky1g]

The reason I'm considering getting one of the latest iPads is because I'm a film editor and the M4 might come in handy

[@bedgemanagadgen1028]

NO... it will NOT. Just wait for the previous devices' prices to drop or for silly people to buy the m4 and sell their amazing m2 or m1. Those are already the most overkill of overkill, and m4 doesn't even make it visibly vaster, cause its still the same 120 hz/fps you'll be seeing, and it adds nothing in terms of user experience unless they let you use macos.

[@terribletimes902]

Seriously DO NOT buy the 2024 iPads if you don’t generally get the 1TB or higher 1. Half the storage speed on the base models, a literal downgrade from the M2. This also locks out 4K60 recording 2. Camera hardware is a straight downgrade on every model of M4 3. Breaks compatibility with your existing accessories 4. The chip is binned, so the performance gain will not be as drastic as shown in reviews unless you get that higher tier model 5. For all these compromises you get to pay $200 more if comparing new prices. The difference will get larger now as retailers sell off existing stock and some M2 Pros show up on Apple’s refurb page The iPad Air on the other hand is a solid upgrade. Double the base storage, no price increase. Yeah it still breaks compatibility with accessories but at least there’s no further downgrades. The storage speed on the Air 4 was already half that of the Pros and that hasn’t changed.