TAINTED MAGICK GREYSTONE - SCRIM vs Emrys eSports

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[@Loberless]

Wacco hit the fucking core!

[@chibitaneki]

These Offlane scrims are always helpful to learn the offlane role better , thx you Ace

[@beenwoke2457]

Damn Wacco

[@sebastiannystrom3946]

Ace you're such a good KZbinr, my favorite Paragon KZbinr by far, you put in in so much work the videos you release (some more than other). Don't quit! :D

[@romansequeira4212]

Loving these scrims. Very educational.

[@peacewalker4043]

Even before this, I had a deck with radiant mantle and tainted. So glad that it's receiving recognition.

[@jacobmott3974]

pretty sure I watched bloodmordius stream this earlier. it's still nice to have a closer look at this build.

[@5e4wArr10R]

solid match ace! killer deck for greystone

[@PhoenixIsTrash]

That bloody ringing sound every 20 bloody seconds

[@awfulbill9283]

anyone know if they're gonna patch in all the foliage in lanes/jungle on console? makes the game look much better imo.

[@pratheeklakkireddy1399]

Wacco hit the fuckin' core. This guy man

[@dancherden]

great teamwork

[@viperprecision6001]

I was expecting this vid to be Ace worthy...not disappointed.

[@rajp-eh4eu]

tainted magic..... what is next?

[@notfelix9345]

I love your videos, I always learn something new.. but how can I secure my paragon account? I'm unsure of what my login is..):

[@QzFeeDz1]

Hey Ace, what cards would you recommend for Kwang? I've tried a damage build but haven't had too much success. So what would you suggest for the current meta? Thanks and I appreciate the content :)

[@RGSACE93]

Damage with tank, build some health as well. You want to be the frontline for your team, so cards like Eldermage are good as well. Finding the balance is tough, I like to go early game damage with mask and then late game tanky

[@D-d-dvon]

I have a question, hoping Ace or anyone else can chime in here. What's the goal with this build? Why would I choose this build over Tempered (12), Eldermage Amulet (8), Radiant (14), Ward (6), Thickblood (13), Tainted (7). With that build I get 3k hp and 128 basic armor, still having the tainted and radiant on deck. With hemo and satori I get 2600 hp with NO armor. Can someone explain to me why the trade off is worth it? Thanks.

[@FallenAeon01]

I think it is mostly under preference. Many cards are situational, for instance Hemorrage can be helpful for Grey because of the innate lifesteal or speed it gives, and the active is good for chasing weak heroes for their kill cxp as it gives you more movement speed and attack speed. Kind of like a... "You are not escaping that easily." statement to the matter. Satori Cloak is almost the same story, having an innate attack speed that you can build on. But the passive shines, as Grey is reliant mostly on his basic attack. If you shred 50% of their armor, it helps immensely. Especially against others who build for basic armor, like some Kwang players, many tanks, etc. In a scenario lets say you are against a Sev that has 150 Basic Armor, end game. Under normal circumstance you can hit within a range of around 50-150 damage, depending on whatever you build with. But with Satori that instantly allows you to do 100-300 damage instead, which is far more helpful in taking the tank down than prior when it is more immune to your basic. But like I said, many cards are situational. The ones that arent are the ones most people choose to side with, such as power, power, power.

[@oscarm891]

Click Bait. The thumbnail showed a novaborn greystone, but you use a tiger skin.

[@lemmmingtons]

Lol Who cares what skin he uses.....

[@oscarm891]

It was a joke

[@PortgasDChopper]

oscar martinez HOW COULD HE!

[@Rami-rin]

REPORT HIM PLS.

[@allen57]

oscar martinez Good Job!

[@Ryan-iv3cz]

power ranger greystone with tainted magic...what a world we live in

[@madmax-ht3zh]

can anyone please explain to me what the use of the ward is he places at the start of the game

[@kevinsap1245]

Madmax 9611 well a ward stays for 3 minutes so that way you can place a ward, have vision early gamr but go back and start with your start items while you still have vision early

[@madmax-ht3zh]

Kevin Sap but why on that spot. Why not place it on the river at the edge the jungle so u can immediatly see it when you are getting ganked. The only way he could see if he was getting ganked was when the rampage tried to hit his rock throw. pretty bad spot if you ask me mid would benefit from it though.

[@RGSACE93]

I placed the ward there because I want to provide vision for my midlaner, most teams value the midlaner over their offlaner. Also remember that most offlaners have a form of reliable escape, greystone leap, Feng dash, Sevarog dash whereas a midlaner doesn't always...heroes like Fey, Morigesh, Belica.

[@madmax-ht3zh]

RGSACE thats true. Btw RGSACE im using your kallari build from a video u uploaded 3 months ago and i love it. Im putting pressure everywhere on the map and winning most of my games with often more than 20 kills per match almost a master kallari now so thanks for that 👍

[@alexogilvie9668]

Would be good to see post game and hear you guys talk your strategy post game, team comp objective decisions, etc.

[@raymondjimenez1753]

Alex Ogilvie um don't u mean pre game post is after

[@alexogilvie9668]

Raymond Jimenez no I mean post, stats, builds, KDAs, talking things that worked and didn't. But since you mention it, seeing the draft would be good too.

[@RGSACE93]

We discuss all that on stream but I usually don't record it for KZbin, I'll consider it though :)

[@Drazatis]

Out of curiosity, why Emp Mask? Just for the versatility? Nice build, I like non critstone builds a lot, makes him feel like more of a brawler than a glass canon.

[@mazkiroo1892]

i cant make my fps/ping show up any reason why?

[@RGSACE93]

It's bugged

[@planeteclipse7]

gg ace, vid ended a bit abruptly though.

[@trustmeimdolphin2005]

Coughing guy, we met again.

[@galibkhan4418]

Honestly, this game is all about communication...PS4 NEEDS VOICE CHAT ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@tukituik]

Galib Khan ps4 has voice chat...

[@galibkhan4418]

Soul Harvester yes...if you set up a party chat using the ps4 system. I want paragon to develop a voice chat within the game

[@Rami-rin]

Galib Khan PC doesn't have voice chat as well , why are you being specific in saying PS4 ?

[@falmanna]

waccooooooo

[@Leinsterken]

how do you see what everyone else is building?

[@karalius000]

Lol :D

[@Leinsterken]

WarHatch legit question

[@guiafb99]

kenneth quigley damn... well, in ps4, when you press and hold that big ass rectangular button on the middle of the controller, it opens a screen in which you can see how many minions last hits/kills/deaths/assistances any player had up to that moment, it also lets you see their levels, how many cp they have used, how many they have in total and their build. I don't know how it is on pc though

[@armondmitchell3177]

Wacco hit the f'n core lol

[@D-d-dvon]

I'd also like to know final build/build order

[@RGSACE93]

Hemo (11), Tainted Magick (16), Radiant Mantle (8) , Eldermage (8), Ward (12), Satori (5)

[@D-d-dvon]

Thanks for the reply bud. So I guess the order for early game is dependant on how the game is going?

[@moba4lyfe900]

I watched this before u uploaded it ace I don't know who he was but he was the sev user

[@KARMA9]

Wacco > Every other Carry . Dont @ me 🔥

[@jake3brockman]

One Vision Imsko & suki

[@duartecruz3484]

RGSACE would be good if you do a build for iggy & scorch

[@trolltime4547]

6 wards on prime holy crap a little to protective

[@BopIT-rf8vt]

does SCRIM stand for anything rosace??

[@RGSACE93]

Scrim is just like a practice match between two competitive teams :)

[@nathaniel_1152]

Ace you split push a lot this game, is that how you usually play greystone?

[@nathaniel_1152]

Also I've used this build, really liked it! :D

[@TheMikeyGofficial]

you need to take out there wards as soon as you put yours mate @13:00 is the perfect example

[@guiafb99]

Michael Gacheru lol he would be in such a bad position

[@XonixDerps]

Heyy someone tried it :D

[@PixyStickMe]

hey Ace the link to the build is busted

[@RGSACE93]

Fixed :)

[@ludyrosalesdelossantos5868]

Revenant with stasis gem😂😂😂

[@tinyt4245]

posting game three tomorrow ? so you guys won this game I'm assuming ? Lol

[@bambi8610]

Is 1408 elo good?

[@bambi8610]

Kevin Sap that's not what I asked lol

[@aidanthedestroye7742]

CrImZoN _R3ApEr its its good atually its grea

[@bambi8610]

Ok ok

[@raymondjimenez1753]

it's decent

[@MajorCheese]

I'm 'average/good' solo queue for over a year and think my elo hovers around 1450. Game is actually a lot easier in solo once you go UP in elo. If my elo slips I find it much harder playing with people who don't know what the heck they are doing. At 1400-1500 you are with other 'average/good' players.

[@silentkill__3712]

rampage & rev? well then

[@User-go9om]

Hi

[@hectorwilson663]

Your lazy backs are genuinely killing me inside

[@trolltime4547]

is there a pragon community or something i hate solo q

[@Ruba...]

Your internet is killing your farm ACE. I thought it was the general bullshit that's been happening but it's clearly yours (@12:30 ish your ping AND your discord both lag at the same time).

[@miguelh5509]

first

[@mattwilson2765]

these builds don't seem good on paper.. can someone explain how it's so good? these are pros so they obviously know what they're doing, but when I look at them I'm like "why?"

[@theboykingtutexumte2327]

matt wilson there isn't any type of objectively good decks( at least when two people with the same amount of cards and deck knowledge are involved) really its all about the team comp and the role you WANT to play.( or the one that fits the team/ character)

[@dannypleshek7941]

Pros usually look at what a certain hero/card brings to a match at any given stage. In this particular instance, Tainted Magic is a burn card that benefits from being active over long periods of time. The burn doesn't provide much burst, but if it can be applied multiple times over a long period, the damage stacks up. The reason Greystone can use TM is because he is a super tank that sticks around for a long time in fights. Greystone being able to proc TM with his Make Way and Reforged gives him all the damage he needs in one card, allowing the Greystone to build 5 tank cards, and only one offense card (TM). This is the thought process that pros will use for any card/hero interaction, because sometimes a great synergy isn't the obvious one.

[@mattwilson2765]

Danny Pleshek thanks! I build my greystone with health, damage and basic armor. this is my first moba ever so I'm getting the hang of it slowly

[@user-lm6wf5st4e]

i have seen this already in generation hollow's channel so i guess this isnt new for me DISSAPOINTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@failbook1018]

Hollow takes the game way too seriously, I know it's competitive but wow..

[@opinionatedjam]

I don't think so. Honestly if he hadn't been that serious with his team then they would have kept making bad decisions. Plus I'm pretty sure he's the team lead, so yea I'd be pissed too if someone got called out and didn't bother to pay attention to what was being said over chat.

[@marcuss4697]

Not really. Like Savior said, he's the team caller, he makes the decisions for the plays. If you noticed, Ace is also very quiet, trying to only pass on useful information for the team. If they didn't have these pillars, there'd be more fuck ups and communication errors.

[@failbook1018]

Savior666 But it's just a scrim, and he's gets so worked up, what happened to the fun?

[@opinionatedjam]

lol no fun in losing. Also, you should practice like it was the real thing, which is exactly what they were doing.

[@guiafb99]

Failbook 101 what is taking the game *too* seriously to you?